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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Retdon1 on June 07, 2019, 08:31:31 pm
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Says we’re in talks with a winger who played in the europa league last season. Anyone heard who it could be ?
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Someone from Ireland maybe
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Link? Cant see anything on it
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Youngster from rangers or Celtic ?
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Link? Cant see anything on it
I can’t find it online but it’s on the back page of this weeks paper... says he’s a wide player who plays in the Wilkes position, good experience, played some top top football this year including the europa league..... rangers were in the europa league this season I think
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Spent some time researching this and only two players I can think of are Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Callum Hudson-Odoi.
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Read the online thing but could only see an article from 23rd May which said we were far Down the line to sign four players and they just needed rubber stamping by the board.
Slightly concerning that only one of these has been done
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Read the online thing but could only see an article from 23rd May which said we were far Down the line to sign four players and they just needed rubber stamping by the board.
Slightly concerning that only one of these has been done
Dickos have some patience for heaven sake. You are getting very anxious about signings again.
If i remember rightly you were the same last summer.
WE WILL HAVE A STRONG 18 PLAYERS BY THE TIME AUGUST COMES ROUND. :that:
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Slightly concerning isn’t the same as very anxious mate
The article reads like they’re done deals but it was a few weeks ago now, that’s all I’m saying
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Slightly concerning isn’t the same as very anxious mate
The article reads like they’re done deals but it was a few weeks ago now, that’s all I’m saying
Most senior staff have been on their summer holidays in the last few weeks, I wouldn't worry too much, if at all.
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Slightly concerning isn’t the same as very anxious mate
The article reads like they’re done deals but it was a few weeks ago now, that’s all I’m saying
When they are done they will be done and then announced. Really pleased we are not a club that goes shouting the odds about signings certain players ( naming them ) and the not getting them.
Don’t you agree?
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McCann should have plenty of wages to be used up with what’s been trimmed since January
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McCann should have plenty of wages to be used up with what’s been trimmed since January
Exactly, so let’s get the right players in. Not just any signings to appease our demanding fans.
I have every faith in GM to bring the right quality of player in. It’s not just about ability but we need the right characters/mentality. Winners in a word. Remember 2012/13.
Due diligence on the above will be a priority on any prospective signings.
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Spent some time researching this and only two players I can think of are Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Callum Hudson-Odoi.
Yeah, they’d be ok!! :santa:🤪🤪🤪
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Spent some time researching this and only two players I can think of are Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Callum Hudson-Odoi.
Yeah, they’d be ok!! :santa:🤪🤪🤪
No we need better than that surely. :facepalm:
Yes in our dreams i think on those two.
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Bloody crap budget we should be going after Messi
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The thing I can't understand is that the same article also says we're still in for signing Newell. Surely we won't be signing two wide players?
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I'm going for one of these two.
Bukayo Saka
Michael Johnston
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The thing I can't understand is that the same article also says we're still in for signing Newell. Surely we won't be signing two wide players?
Why not sign two wingers we’ve lost Wilks and need more offensive players
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Slightly concerning isn’t the same as very anxious mate
The article reads like they’re done deals but it was a few weeks ago now, that’s all I’m saying
When they are done they will be done and then announced. Really pleased we are not a club that goes shouting the odds about signings certain players ( naming them ) and the not getting them.
Don’t you agree?
Yeah, but don’t think any sides do that do they?
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Don’t Welsh clubs play in Europe
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Slightly concerning isn’t the same as very anxious mate
The article reads like they’re done deals but it was a few weeks ago now, that’s all I’m saying
When they are done they will be done and then announced. Really pleased we are not a club that goes shouting the odds about signings certain players ( naming them ) and the not getting them.
Don’t you agree?
Yeah, but don’t think any sides do that do they?
Yes they do and we were one of them a few years ago.
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The thing I can't understand is that the same article also says we're still in for signing Newell. Surely we won't be signing two wide players?
1 for either side of marquis ( if still here ) with Copps in the 10 role and saddler and Blair in reserve
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I think Sadlier could be a key player for us this season - a good pre-season could see him as a top league 1 striker. If we can keep JM then great, 2 x 20+ strikers could see us in top 2. If JM goes I think Sadlier could be one to build our attack around, I rate him very highly. Looking forward to next season!
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I’ve never known us as a club announcing someone was signing but then they didn’t
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I’ve never known us as a club announcing someone was signing but then they didn’t
And Queue the naming
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I’ve never known us as a club announcing someone was signing but then they didn’t
And Queue the naming
Peter Clarke
James Bailey
Mvoto
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I’ve never known us as a club announcing someone was signing but then they didn’t
And Queue the naming
Peter Clarke
James Bailey
Mvoto
Markus Heikkinen
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Mika Hakkinen
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Mika Hakkinen
Great engine.
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Peter Beardsley
Marco Gabbiadini
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Names mentioned on a forum aren’t the same as the club saying someone is signing but then doesn’t
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Probably from one of these qualifiers:
Glenavon
Cliftonville
Coleraine
Derry city
Shamrock Rovers
Celtic
Rangers
Hibernian
I like the look of (and sound of) Karamoko Dembele, from Celtic. A very young up and coming star at Celtic.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-show-interest-in-player-with-europa-league-experience-1-9811469/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Here’s the link to article
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Probably from one of these qualifiers:
Glenavon
Cliftonville
Coleraine
Derry city
Shamrock Rovers
Celtic
Rangers
Hibernian
I like the look of (and sound of) Karamoko Dembele, from Celtic. A very young up and coming star at Celtic.
Could possibly include Aberdeen in that too. They got to the qualifying round.
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Glen Middleton from Rangers?
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He has to be "......very direct, very aggressive", as that is the stand-out quote from that FP report.
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Glen Middleton from Rangers?
Signed a 5 year contract at Rangers
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Probably from one of these qualifiers:
Glenavon
Cliftonville
Coleraine
Derry city
Shamrock Rovers
Celtic
Rangers
Hibernian
I like the look of (and sound of) Karamoko Dembele, from Celtic. A very young up and coming star at Celtic.
Under contract at Celtic
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Some unattainable ones here, I've taken out the obviously unattainable ones such as Aumbeyang, Hazard, etc but all striker/wingers who have played in Europa League for a Scottish/English club. Harder to find seasonal stuff for Welsh/Irish clubs.
Rangers
Umar Sadiq
Alfredo Morelos
Kyle Lafferty
Jamie Murphy
Glenn Middleton
Ryan Kent - Liverpool
Daniel Candeias
Eros Grezda
Celtic
Lewis Morgan
Mikey Johnston
Oliver Burke - West Brom
Odsonne Édouard
Leigh Griffiths
James Forrest
Jonny Hayes
Scott Sinclair
Hibs
Jamie Gullan
Oli Shaw
Florian Kamberi
Martin Boyle
Aberdeen
Niall McGinn
Gary Mackay-Steven
Sam Cosgrove
Stevie May
Arsenal
Bukayo Saka
Eddie Nketiah
Emile Smith Rowe
Burnley
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson
Matěj Vydra
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Is it definitely permanent signing? Perhaps a loan?
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Some unattainable ones here, I've taken out the obviously unattainable ones such as Aumbeyang, Hazard, etc but all striker/wingers who have played in Europa League for a Scottish/English club. Harder to find seasonal stuff for Welsh/Irish clubs.
Rangers
Umar Sadiq
Alfredo Morelos
Kyle Lafferty
Jamie Murphy
Glenn Middleton
Ryan Kent - Liverpool
Daniel Candeias
Eros Grezda
Celtic
Lewis Morgan
Mikey Johnston
Oliver Burke - West Brom
Odsonne Édouard
Leigh Griffiths
James Forrest
Jonny Hayes
Scott Sinclair
Hibs
Jamie Gullan
Oli Shaw
Florian Kamberi
Martin Boyle
Aberdeen
Niall McGinn
Gary Mackay-Steven
Sam Cosgrove
Stevie May
Arsenal
Bukayo Saka
Eddie Nketiah
Emile Smith Rowe
Burnley
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson
Matěj Vydra
I’m guessing it will be a player out of contract
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Glen Middleton from Rangers?
Signed a 5 year contract at Rangers
Season loan?
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Glen Middleton from Rangers?
Signed a 5 year contract at Rangers
Season loan?
McCan has said the 2 big Scottish clubs had been in touch about sending us their better younger players on loan
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Glenn Middleton seems to fit the bill
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Some unattainable ones here, I've taken out the obviously unattainable ones such as Aumbeyang, Hazard, etc but all striker/wingers who have played in Europa League for a Scottish/English club. Harder to find seasonal stuff for Welsh/Irish clubs.
Rangers
Umar Sadiq
Alfredo Morelos
Kyle Lafferty
Jamie Murphy
Glenn Middleton
Ryan Kent - Liverpool
Daniel Candeias
Eros Grezda
Celtic
Lewis Morgan
Mikey Johnston
Oliver Burke - West Brom
Odsonne Édouard
Leigh Griffiths
James Forrest
Jonny Hayes
Scott Sinclair
Hibs
Jamie Gullan
Oli Shaw
Florian Kamberi
Martin Boyle
Aberdeen
Niall McGinn
Gary Mackay-Steven
Sam Cosgrove
Stevie May
Arsenal
Bukayo Saka
Eddie Nketiah
Emile Smith Rowe
Burnley
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson
Matěj Vydra
There's still loads on here that are unattainable tbf. Morelos will go for 7 maybe 8 figures. Forrest linked to the PL. Edouard is a key figure too and Kent is far too good for this level.
The less said about Sadiq, the better. Think a very rich man's Emile Sinclair.
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Were we not rumoured to be looking at Kent last season or perhaps season before?
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Were we not rumoured to be looking at Kent last season or perhaps season before?
We may well have but he's gonna go top end championship, the premier league or back to Rangers, he was superb up there. Middleton is a good player who's probably at about league 1 level\bottom end championship, his end product is not there yet and probably would fit the bill.
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From the game v charlton we’ve lost 7 of the starting 11.
One might be re-signing.
But it’s not ridiculous to be slightly concerned, we’ve got to find 7 players of a quality that will improve on those that have left.
McCann has proven he can make these type of signings but this summer must be the most depleted squad we’ve had in a long time
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From the game v charlton we’ve lost 7 of the starting 11.
One might be re-signing.
But it’s not ridiculous to be slightly concerned, we’ve got to find 7 players of a quality that will improve on those that have left.
McCann has proven he can make these type of signings but this summer must be the most depleted squad we’ve had in a long time
Two years ago you were telling all the doom and gloom merchants to stop moaning.
Now you are all doom and gloom. Do you want DF back? Then we really would have something to be concerned about.
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We signed a dozen players in the summer of 2016 after relegation, Ferguson built almost an entirely new squad and it paid off with promotion.
It's a challenge for sure but I have faith in the manager and his team of staff to assemble the right kind of squad for us to push on.
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We signed a dozen players in the summer of 2016 after relegation, Ferguson built almost an entirely new squad and it paid off with promotion.
It's a challenge for sure but I have faith in the manager and his team of staff to assemble the right kind of squad for us to push on.
Rebuilding a squad after relegation is different - and frequently a necessity - to rebuilding after making the play-offs. I can understand Dickos’ fears but it’s so, so early that it’s not really worth thinking about now. If we’ve only signed a couple of players by August then I’m sure the mood will be very different but until then let’s put our faith in the board and management to build on last season and give us a squad capable of competing at the very top end of the table.
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Fergie had to achieve promotion after capitulating the previous one and going on loosing streak . McCann inherited a promotion side in good form that just needed tweaking and it wasn’t a bad attempt after all . The down side has now kicked in with so many players out of contract and all your successful loans returning taking their goal potential with them . The clubs attitude to promotion I wouldn’t have though hasn't changed and achieving this has to be done within financial constraints. These constraints worked last season because the players were in a good place and the new manager wasn’t going to rip things up to build straight away . John Marquis lead the way and the team followed and for many games were scoring freely . We have now lost our loans , an aged centre half and a midfielder who missed most of the season through injury and a goal keeper who makes mistakes often crucial times added to this players loaned out who haven’t reached the mark of a first team place or hold on to it . So over really all of the first team squad is is in-tacked and with the odd replacements and a loan or two it will be business as usual and with hard work and consistency will see us back fighting in the top half .
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From the game v charlton we’ve lost 7 of the starting 11.
One might be re-signing.
But it’s not ridiculous to be slightly concerned, we’ve got to find 7 players of a quality that will improve on those that have left.
McCann has proven he can make these type of signings but this summer must be the most depleted squad we’ve had in a long time
Two years ago you were telling all the doom and gloom merchants to stop moaning.
Now you are all doom and gloom. Do you want DF back? Then we really would have something to be concerned about.
Get a grip mate.
I’m not moaning, it’s an obvious concern that we’ve lost 7 of our best players
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We signed a dozen players in the summer of 2016 after relegation, Ferguson built almost an entirely new squad and it paid off with promotion.
It's a challenge for sure but I have faith in the manager and his team of staff to assemble the right kind of squad for us to push on.
The massive difference being we were replacing players that weren’t good enough and didn’t want.
If money wasn’t an issue I’d imagine McCann would have chosen to keep all 7 of these
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In an ideal world, sure. But we were never going to be getting Wilks and Kane for the long term, players like Marosi and Rowe are replaceable - they were hardly ever-presents in our team this season - and the issue with Butler is his age, he could easily drop off a cliff performance-wise in another 6 months or a year.
The other two of your 7 may well still be here next season, but even they are not irreplaceable. Until a few weeks before the end of the season a lot of fans were saying we needed better than Andrew.
It's not really about money being "an issue" in my opinion, it's about the need to spend the money we do have wisely. I believe McCann is aware of this and will do everything he can to maximise the playing budget.
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I know they’re replaceable I never suggested otherwise. All I said is it’s a slight concern that we’ve lost 7 of our best players,
I don’t see how that can be argued with
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I'm not arguing with you, I said in my initial response to you that I agree it's a challenge, but that I have faith in McCann and co to meet that challenge. I certainly don't think it is time to be worrying at this stage, in early June, about it and that's why I felt the need to post on the subject.
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I know they’re replaceable I never suggested otherwise. All I said is it’s a slight concern that we’ve lost 7 of our best players,
I don’t see how that can be argued with
Why are we concerned about replacing replaceable players isn't that the point of them? and 7 is hardly a unprecedented number of players to leave even for a playoff team. I know you'll argue i'm wrong, it's what you do, but we are so far away from the season's start that it's actually a good thing. We've cleared out some high earners and have time to replace them early on in preseason.
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That’s an odd outlook
Everyone is replaceable getting someone to replace Kane, wilks, downing, etc of the same quality is the concern. Not just replacing them
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Due to the last guy (who was not a success - indeed you called for him to be sacked) resigning in early June, McCann was not appointed until the last days of June last season. Despite this, he managed to recruit well in this very narrow window available and put together a team playing good and effective football right from the off.
Arguably he is in a stronger position now both knowing his players better and with more time to recruit than he was afforded last year.
Certainly no time to be fretting and panicking.
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From the game v charlton we’ve lost 7 of the starting 11.
One might be re-signing.
But it’s not ridiculous to be slightly concerned, we’ve got to find 7 players of a quality that will improve on those that have left.
McCann has proven he can make these type of signings but this summer must be the most depleted squad we’ve had in a long time
Two years ago you were telling all the doom and gloom merchants to stop moaning.
Now you are all doom and gloom. Do you want DF back? Then we really would have something to be concerned about.
Get a grip mate.
I’m not moaning, it’s an obvious concern that we’ve lost 7 of our best players
Wow steady on MATE ( i have never met you so appreciate it if you stop calling me mate, thank you. )
it’s you who need to get a grip. You are the one getting angry not me.
I am not posting to have another spat with you Dickos ok. All I have said is you seem ( maybe I am wrong ) that you are not happy with all at DRFC and you have been for quite some time now.
I don’t want a slanging match with you again. Life is too short for that. ;)
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That’s an odd outlook
Everyone is replaceable getting someone to replace Kane, wilks, downing, etc of the same quality is the concern. Not just replacing them
Yeah we need to do it i'm not disagreeing there however we built that team last season with a significant time delay due to your mate (was GM even in charge this time last year?) so i'm not sure what the concern is really. We are in no way in a situation that is outside the norm, so you must be concerned every preseason.
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From the game v charlton we’ve lost 7 of the starting 11.
One might be re-signing.
But it’s not ridiculous to be slightly concerned, we’ve got to find 7 players of a quality that will improve on those that have left.
McCann has proven he can make these type of signings but this summer must be the most depleted squad we’ve had in a long time
Two years ago you were telling all the doom and gloom merchants to stop moaning.
Now you are all doom and gloom. Do you want DF back? Then we really would have something to be concerned about.
Get a grip mate.
I’m not moaning, it’s an obvious concern that we’ve lost 7 of our best players
Marosi gone - Lawlor straight replacement
Butler gone - likely 3rd or 4th choice next season anyway
Downing gone - wasn't our player
Andrew - likely to 're sign
Kane - not our player
Wilkes - not our player
Rowe - may be missed but is replaceable
So only really need to replace the loaned with other loanees we're nearly back to where we were.
Don't think we need to worry just yet.
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We still have to sign players to replace wilks and Kane regardless of whether they’re loan players or not especially if we’re wanting to improve the squad on last year.
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That’s an odd outlook
Everyone is replaceable getting someone to replace Kane, wilks, downing, etc of the same quality is the concern. Not just replacing them
Yeah we need to do it i'm not disagreeing there however we built that team last season with a significant time delay due to your mate (was GM even in charge this time last year?) so i'm not sure what the concern is really. We are in no way in a situation that is outside the norm, so you must be concerned every preseason.
I’m not sure every pre season we lose 7 of our starting line up, both captains, our first choice goalie (arguable)
Look I think McCann will replace them with players just as good app I’m saying it’s a massive summer for us having to find players at least as good that’s all.
And that at the moment is a slight concern
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We still have to sign players to replace wilks and Kane regardless of whether they’re loan players or not especially if we’re wanting to improve the squad on last year.
It’s 9th June. Everyone is on holiday. Don’t you think GM is aware of that and as he has stated Premier league clubs are queuing up to loan us their young starlets.
Reasons to be cheerful i would think. No?
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Of course he’s aware,
He also said we won’t be as reliant on loans this year
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Of course he’s aware,
He also said we won’t be as reliant on loans this year
Which should tell you that he's got plenty of irons in the fire.
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We signed a dozen players in the summer of 2016 after relegation, Ferguson built almost an entirely new squad and it paid off with promotion.
It's a challenge for sure but I have faith in the manager and his team of staff to assemble the right kind of squad for us to push on.
The massive difference being we were replacing players that weren’t good enough and didn’t want.
If money wasn’t an issue I’d imagine McCann would have chosen to keep all 7 of these
Why is money an issue?
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We signed a dozen players in the summer of 2016 after relegation, Ferguson built almost an entirely new squad and it paid off with promotion.
It's a challenge for sure but I have faith in the manager and his team of staff to assemble the right kind of squad for us to push on.
The massive difference being we were replacing players that weren’t good enough and didn’t want.
If money wasn’t an issue I’d imagine McCann would have chosen to keep all 7 of these
Why is money an issue?
To be fair money is always an issue. We have a budget.
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We signed a dozen players in the summer of 2016 after relegation, Ferguson built almost an entirely new squad and it paid off with promotion.
It's a challenge for sure but I have faith in the manager and his team of staff to assemble the right kind of squad for us to push on.
The massive difference being we were replacing players that weren’t good enough and didn’t want.
If money wasn’t an issue I’d imagine McCann would have chosen to keep all 7 of these
Why is money an issue?
To be fair money is always an issue. We have a budget.
The expression that 'money is an issue' is a negative. Money is a consideration should be the correct phrase.
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We signed a dozen players in the summer of 2016 after relegation, Ferguson built almost an entirely new squad and it paid off with promotion.
It's a challenge for sure but I have faith in the manager and his team of staff to assemble the right kind of squad for us to push on.
The massive difference being we were replacing players that weren’t good enough and didn’t want.
If money wasn’t an issue I’d imagine McCann would have chosen to keep all 7 of these
Why is money an issue?
To be fair money is always an issue. We have a budget.
The expression that 'money is an issue' is a negative. Money is a consideration should be the correct phrase.
Ok I buy that. No pun intended.
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I think you’re misunderstanding
“If money wasn’t an issue”
All this means if we could spend any amount then I’m sure McCann would be trying to sign Kane, wilks, downing.
Just like if money wasn’t an issue, I’d be living in Barbados and driving around in a Ferrari.
It’s nothing negative at all