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Title: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 02:43:47 pm
Now the favourite on Sky Bet for the Hull job.
Title: Re: Mccan
Post by: RobTheRover on June 18, 2019, 02:45:48 pm
Now the favourite on Sky Bet for the Hull job.

not McCann then. Thats good
Title: Re: Mccan
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 18, 2019, 02:47:00 pm
Oh f**k off. Why is the world against us atm?
Title: Re: Mccan
Post by: Retdon1 on June 18, 2019, 02:47:06 pm
After the way he’s talked about commitment this summer Idd be very surprised if he left... never say never I suppose
Title: Re: Mccan
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 02:48:19 pm
His name has come out of nowhere. Wasn;t being mentioned before today.
Title: Re: Mccan
Post by: PDX_Rover on June 18, 2019, 02:49:21 pm
Good job our manager is McCann then. Was worried there for a second...
Title: Re: Mccan
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 02:50:26 pm
Good job our manager is McCann then. Was worried there for a second...

Pedantic Kitson. Would you like me to edit it, just for you?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: graingrover on June 18, 2019, 02:53:22 pm
Go for it Grant the higher in the league hierarchy your values are at play the better for the good of the game .Now welcome Copps !
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Copps is Magic on June 18, 2019, 02:54:26 pm
what a state to leave us in if he did leave... A crime almost.

We know it takes our board at least 5 weeks to find someone new.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: PDX_Rover on June 18, 2019, 02:55:57 pm
Good job our manager is McCann then. Was worried there for a second...

Pedantic Kitson. Would you like me to edit it, just for you?

No but try harder. It’s not that difficult to master is it? You’re just embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Move DRFC on June 18, 2019, 02:57:17 pm
There's been a lot of meltdowns on here over the last few weeks when in reality we're in a perfectly fine position. This however would leave us well and truly screwed - good and proper.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 02:57:25 pm
Good job our manager is McCann then. Was worried there for a second...

Pedantic Kitson. Would you like me to edit it, just for you?

No but try harder. It’s not that difficult to master is it? You’re just embarrassing yourself.

How's that exactly?

By missing one letter from someone's name?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: graingrover on June 18, 2019, 02:58:53 pm
Copps is the only guy who has been truly genuinely Rovers over the last decade and beyond .If Grant goes so be it !would sit comfortably with a five year contract for James Coppinger as  manager at Rovers.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 02:59:27 pm
Copps is the only guy who has been truly genuinely Rovers over the last decade and beyond .If Grant goes so be it !would sit comfortably with a five year contract for James Coppinger as  manager at Rovers.

With zero management experience?
Imagine if he cocked it up.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Copps is Magic on June 18, 2019, 03:01:01 pm
Copps is the only guy who has been truly genuinely Rovers over the last decade and beyond .If Grant goes so be it !would sit comfortably with a five year contract for James Coppinger as  manager at Rovers.

Look at my username... I would love that one day. But has he developed the (any) links to start building a squad THIS preseason. Almost no chance.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: graingrover on June 18, 2019, 03:01:59 pm
Do you honestly think  EXPERIENCE is worth more than all the values and commitment Copps has shown to our club .
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 03:02:57 pm
Do you honestly think  EXPERIENCE is worth more than all the values and commitment Copps has shown to our club .

When it comes to managing a football team with the aim of promotion, yes.

Values and commitment doesn't make you a good manager.

Not saying he'd fail, but IF Mccann were to leave, this close to the start of a season, with no squad, we;d need an experienced manager.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: mrfrostsdad on June 18, 2019, 03:03:12 pm
Depending how ambitious he is you couldn't blame him if he went.
Much bigger club than us, with recent Premiership pedigree.
And he'd probably have money to spend.
First two signings Marquis and Whtehead??
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Copps is Magic on June 18, 2019, 03:03:32 pm
We aint got a squad. Who's going to sign the players?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: graingrover on June 18, 2019, 03:04:47 pm
I think you need Spell check Mr Forest .
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: since-1969 on June 18, 2019, 03:06:07 pm
Now the favourite on Sky Bet for the Hull job.
I knew that was coming .
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: wing commander on June 18, 2019, 03:08:12 pm
If he thinks he's on a tight budget here then he would be in for a big shock there..Adkins left because he didn't think survival was possible on what he was given to work with..Doubt theres a shred of truth in that..but this is football..
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: WSBBA_Ben on June 18, 2019, 03:08:54 pm
Adkins would be a decent straight swap. Hopefully a storm in a tea cup; someone somewhere might have stuck £500 on at 100/1 & brought the odds down.

Tim Ryan was 3rd favourite for a couple of days before Grant got the job. No real panic yet.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: wing commander on June 18, 2019, 03:09:06 pm
Now the favourite on Sky Bet for the Hull job.
I knew that was coming .

Haha Fair play for getting in with that quick before everybody started asking you..lol
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: jamesrover17 on June 18, 2019, 03:10:01 pm
Someone will have just lumped on or a series of bets on GM, very rare for betting odds have any insider knowledge
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 03:10:52 pm
Someone will have just lumped on or a series of bets on GM, very rare for betting odds have any insider knowledge

He wasn't on the list at all yesterday. They've either added him or he's been requested on lumped on. You wouldn't lump on though, unless you had a reason to.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 18, 2019, 03:25:50 pm
Someone will have just lumped on or a series of bets on GM, very rare for betting odds have any insider knowledge

He wasn't on the list at all yesterday. They've either added him or he's been requested on lumped on. You wouldn't lump on though, unless you had a reason to.

It takes a considerable sum to move a betting line, even on manager markets. Not “a fiver” a some may believe.

There is substance to this change in betting odds, whether it will come to fruition is another matter.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bentley Bullet on June 18, 2019, 03:27:07 pm
Maybe they've got their wires crossed. It could be that McCann asked for more spending money and was told to go to HELL?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: ChrisBx on June 18, 2019, 03:27:27 pm
Very confident McCann won't be going anywhere this summer.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: since-1969 on June 18, 2019, 03:29:00 pm
Very confident McCann won't be going anywhere this summer.
He’s been away already so your correct .
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 03:32:56 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 18, 2019, 03:36:21 pm
Someone will have just lumped on or a series of bets on GM, very rare for betting odds have any insider knowledge

He wasn't on the list at all yesterday. They've either added him or he's been requested on lumped on. You wouldn't lump on though, unless you had a reason to.

It takes a considerable sum to move a betting line, even on manager markets. Not “a fiver” a some may believe.

There is substance to this change in betting odds, whether it will come to fruition is another matter.

That all depends what money has been placed on that particular market.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Michael Shaw on June 18, 2019, 03:36:35 pm
After the way GM has slagged off players for not taking a pay cut for the privilege of playing for Doncaster he would would have to be total f*ck*ng tosser himself to leave.  Having said that I don't doubt it would go anywhere at the moment, and until it is ever confirmed I doubt Marquis will leave either. It's more fun to be a big fish in a small pool than a small fish in a big pool.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: graingrover on June 18, 2019, 03:42:35 pm
Let Grant go if he wants the money and stop messing around with interviews ,,Head hunt ,,,go for Copps .
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Retdon1 on June 18, 2019, 03:44:05 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.

Why would we just let him speak to Hull.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: ChrisBx on June 18, 2019, 03:52:05 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.

That doesn't necessarily mean he will join Hull or even be interested in speaking to them. It may be the case that a pre-agreed release clause has been met, therefore meaning he is contractually allowed to discuss the position with Hull.

Given McCann's activity and comments this close-season, I'd be very surprised if he goes.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on June 18, 2019, 03:53:18 pm
We will see.  Would be a big blow for me but all just rumours of course.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 03:53:42 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.

That doesn't necessarily mean he will join Hull or even be interested in speaking to them. It may be the case that a pre-agreed release clause has been met, therefore meaning he is contractually allowed to discuss the position with Hull.

Given McCann's activity and comments this close-season, I'd be very surprised if he goes.

Of course. And as a club, we've never stood in anyone's way.

We will have to see what happens. The rest of this week is going to be very interesting.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: phil old leake on June 18, 2019, 03:53:50 pm
Money that’s why the club would let him speak to Hull. Their wages would be vastly more than Donnys
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: jackthelad on June 18, 2019, 03:54:08 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.

Jeez-this forum could be about to go into meltdown.  :suicide:
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Drover on June 18, 2019, 03:54:18 pm
If he goes,it will be for money,came to Rovers to work hard and now deserves bigger money by progressing higher up his career. :P :whistle: :silly:
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: rtid88 on June 18, 2019, 03:55:27 pm
Judging by the names within the top 10 favourites for the Hull job... Nobody has got a clue who it is going to be at this stage....
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 18, 2019, 04:01:06 pm
If he did leave us after letting all the players leave and without replacing them it would be a disgrace
Especially after how much he’s gone on about loyalty and only wanting people here who want to be

I Also dont think it would look favourably on the board
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Surrey Rover on June 18, 2019, 04:02:07 pm
Money that’s why the club would let him speak to Hull. Their wages would be vastly more than Donnys

That shouldn’t be his no.1 priority given what he has said about players salaries just recently, he should first and foremost want to be the manager of Doncaster Rovers so I’d be very surprised if he’s interested in leaving right now.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: mushRTID on June 18, 2019, 04:04:38 pm
Think this one needs nipping in the bud ASAP by grant himself or the club. I know they don’t normally comment on rumours but after the start to the summer we’ve had  it wouldn’t be a bad idea.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Drover on June 18, 2019, 04:05:19 pm
GM might get Herbie on loan again next season then!
And,have Hull shown any interest in JM?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Drover on June 18, 2019, 04:08:20 pm
Think this one needs nipping in the bud ASAP by grant himself or the club. I know they don’t normally comment on rumours but after the start to the summer we’ve had  it wouldn’t be a bad idea.

Good point,he was'nt impressed with DA delays in talks,do as I do,or will it be,do as I say?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Metalmicky on June 18, 2019, 04:12:10 pm
Very confident McCann won't be going anywhere this summer.
He’s been away already so your correct .

you're
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: graingrover on June 18, 2019, 04:19:22 pm
In the end you look in  the mirror and read read your own recent value statements .Then you reveal who you are .
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Retdon1 on June 18, 2019, 04:20:39 pm
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-linked-with-hull-city-vacancy-177766?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: ChrisBx on June 18, 2019, 04:35:31 pm
Probably worth pointing out that the link seems to have originated from Sky. I remember them talking a load of b*llocks when SO'D was linked with Burnley.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Retdon1 on June 18, 2019, 04:41:26 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.

From radio Sheffield
Re #drfc boss Grant McCann to #HCAFC rumours. Told 'there's been no contact', club source added: 'nor would it be welcomed'.

I guess your sources are different to there’s then ??
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: elmsallrover on June 18, 2019, 04:43:27 pm
Do you honestly think  EXPERIENCE is worth more than all the values and commitment Copps has shown to our club .
what like the time he got off the team bus to go to forest
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 04:44:32 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.

From radio Sheffield
Re #drfc boss Grant McCann to #HCAFC rumours. Told 'there's been no contact', club source added: 'nor would it be welcomed'.

I guess your sources are different to there’s then ??

Only posted what I was told, and they've been on the money previously, as my previous posts will testify.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: ChrisBx on June 18, 2019, 04:48:28 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.

From radio Sheffield
Re #drfc boss Grant McCann to #HCAFC rumours. Told 'there's been no contact', club source added: 'nor would it be welcomed'.

I guess your sources are different to there’s then ??

Only posted what I was told, and they've been on the money previously, as my previous posts will testify.

Let's hope your sources are wrong on this one. Partly because I'd like McCann to stay and partly because it puts an end to your "check my previous posts" catchphrase!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 04:50:14 pm
Made some calls.
Have been told Mccann has been given permission to speak to Hull.

For those who doubt me, check my past predictions.

From radio Sheffield
Re #drfc boss Grant McCann to #HCAFC rumours. Told 'there's been no contact', club source added: 'nor would it be welcomed'.

I guess your sources are different to there’s then ??

Only posted what I was told, and they've been on the money previously, as my previous posts will testify.

Let's hope your sources are wrong on this one. Partly because I'd like McCann to stay and partly because it puts an end to your "check my previous posts" catchphrase!

I hope so too.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Rovers Return on June 18, 2019, 04:50:38 pm
Just checked a few odds! Not even on the list from what I can see.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 18, 2019, 04:53:24 pm
Just checked a few odds! Not even on the list from what I can see.

He's only showing on the Sky one.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: idler on June 18, 2019, 04:56:02 pm
GM must know that DF kept his job despite that awful 17 match winless run.
The owners at Hull have nowhere near that much patience. Were he to take it he could be looking for another job by Christmas.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 18, 2019, 05:27:13 pm
It would be incredibly hypocritical of him to even speak with HCFC after all his talk of only wanting players "who want to be here".
The FP article does say though that any approach from another club would be rejected out of hand.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Filo on June 18, 2019, 05:40:05 pm
It’s easily nipped in the bud, all he has to do is come out and say he’s going nowhere
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Colin C No.3 on June 18, 2019, 05:44:35 pm
Think it’s time this thread was fenced off. Read my earlier posts.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 18, 2019, 05:49:59 pm
Adkins would be a decent straight swap. Hopefully a storm in a tea cup; someone somewhere might have stuck £500 on at 100/1 & brought the odds down.

Tim Ryan was 3rd favourite for a couple of days before Grant got the job. No real panic yet.







Mmmm.
We’ve got Adkins,
Super Mark Adkins.
Just don’t think you understand.
The board got their man,
Swapped him for McCann..............nah, that doesn’t fit right somehow.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Donnybax on June 18, 2019, 05:54:34 pm
Adkins would be a decent straight swap. Hopefully a storm in a tea cup; someone somewhere might have stuck £500 on at 100/1 & brought the odds down.

Tim Ryan was 3rd favourite for a couple of days before Grant got the job. No real panic yet.







Mmmm.
We’ve got Adkins,
Super Mark Adkins.
Just don’t think you understand.
The board got their man,
Swapped him for McCann..............nah, that doesn’t fit right somehow.
might not fit because he’s called Nigel
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 18, 2019, 05:57:16 pm
Adkins would be a decent straight swap. Hopefully a storm in a tea cup; someone somewhere might have stuck £500 on at 100/1 & brought the odds down.

Tim Ryan was 3rd favourite for a couple of days before Grant got the job. No real panic yet.







Mmmm.
We’ve got Adkins,
Super Mark Adkins.
Just don’t think you understand.
The board got their man,
Swapped him for McCann..............nah, that doesn’t fit right somehow.
might not fit because he’s called Nigel






Ha, so he is.
Glad you spotted that deliberate mistake.
 :chair:
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 18, 2019, 06:07:48 pm
Why any Manager would want to go to Hull City is beyond me. They’re a club on a downward spiral. Very questionable owners, best players leaving, a dwindling fan base. Can’t really see the attraction.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: WheatleyRover on June 18, 2019, 06:26:04 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-link-with-hull-city-wide-of-the-mark-177766%3famp
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Metalmicky on June 18, 2019, 06:46:25 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 18, 2019, 07:05:59 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...





Go play with yourself MM.
Where have I panicked.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 18, 2019, 07:15:45 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...

That’s a bit harsh!!!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: since-1969 on June 18, 2019, 07:36:18 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...
If you agreed that everything is hunky dory that fine , so seeing players leave particularly after supposedly turning good deals down is also fine , then it’s only natural to seek answers if I do not .Yes things get said out of frustration on here but as none of us have crystal ball but can only respond to what is happening currently. Players contracts were known about by everyone since last season , so the apparent fallout is remarkable as the club achieved its targets and went down fighting all the way . However that ugly word ‘ Budget’ rears it’s head annually and if it wasn’t debated then we would assume that possibly selling our best players was also natural and a good thing. Imo the board who do fantastic job and have taken DRFC into the 21st century are to be commended. Yet only if we don’t examine the whys and wherefores can we ever get closer to excepting that it’s going to be another season of unknowns and missed opportunities. Agree or disagree I don’t care I’m saying it’s my view of what i see and  that is the club will not push the boat out but pressure McCann to achieve what they won’t pay for . 
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Metalmicky on June 18, 2019, 07:44:42 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...

That’s a bit harsh!!!

True, but at least he stopped worrying for 10 mins while he did his essay on "why there are no answers..!!!"
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Retdon1 on June 18, 2019, 07:46:33 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...
If you agreed that everything is hunky dory that fine , so seeing players leave particularly after supposedly turning good deals down is also fine , then it’s only natural to seek answers if I do not .Yes things get said out of frustration on here but as none of us have crystal ball but can only respond to what is happening currently. Players contracts were known about by everyone since last season , so the apparent fallout is remarkable as the club achieved its targets and went down fighting all the way . However that ugly word ‘ Budget’ rears it’s head annually and if it wasn’t debated then we would assume that possibly selling our best players was also natural and a good thing. Imo the board who do fantastic job and have taken DRFC into the 21st century are to be commended. Yet only if we don’t examine the whys and wherefores can we ever get closer to excepting that it’s going to be another season of unknowns and missed opportunities. Agree or disagree I don’t care I’m saying it’s my view of what i see and  that is the club will not push the boat out but pressure McCann to achieve what they won’t pay for . 

But the word “Budget” only gets spoke about by fans like your self. If by the first game of the season our team is looking weaker than last season then I’ll be in total agreement, but to start panicking about the Budget before we’ve even started signing players is crazy
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 18, 2019, 07:49:21 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...

That’s a bit harsh!!!

True, but at least he stopped worrying for 10 mins while he did his essay on "why there are no answers..!!!"

 :lol:
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 18, 2019, 07:50:24 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...

That’s a bit harsh!!!

True, but at least he stopped worrying for 10 mins while he did his essay on "why there are no answers..!!!"






MM, why include me as one of those that are panicking?
If you got your head out of your jacksie for a minute and read my posts you would find that I am totally the opposite.
Of course I expect you to copy in the post where I said something about us not having a team for the first friendly but that was a tongue in cheek (where is that emoji by the way) comment aimed at those that are panicking.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 18, 2019, 08:06:56 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...

That’s a bit harsh!!!

True, but at least he stopped worrying for 10 mins while he did his essay on "why there are no answers..!!!"






MM, why include me as one of those that are panicking?
If you got your head out of your jacksie for a minute and read my posts you would find that I am totally the opposite.
Of course I expect you to copy in the post where I said something about us not having a team for the first friendly but that was a tongue in cheek (where is that emoji by the way) comment aimed at those that are panicking.

To be fair, Hound isn’t one for complaining or panicking
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: since-1969 on June 18, 2019, 08:15:39 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...
If you agreed that everything is hunky dory that fine , so seeing players leave particularly after supposedly turning good deals down is also fine , then it’s only natural to seek answers if I do not .Yes things get said out of frustration on here but as none of us have crystal ball but can only respond to what is happening currently. Players contracts were known about by everyone since last season , so the apparent fallout is remarkable as the club achieved its targets and went down fighting all the way . However that ugly word ‘ Budget’ rears it’s head annually and if it wasn’t debated then we would assume that possibly selling our best players was also natural and a good thing. Imo the board who do fantastic job and have taken DRFC into the 21st century are to be commended. Yet only if we don’t examine the whys and wherefores can we ever get closer to excepting that it’s going to be another season of unknowns and missed opportunities. Agree or disagree I don’t care I’m saying it’s my view of what i see and  that is the club will not push the boat out but pressure McCann to achieve what they won’t pay for . 

But the word “Budget” only gets spoke about by fans like your self. If by the first game of the season our team is looking weaker than last season then I’ll be in total agreement, but to start panicking about the Budget before we’ve even started signing players is crazy
We are selling because we’ve put a lid on the amount that against others that we will not go above. That’s fair but so is the fallout . A player leaves to a club tha has half the crowds we have , Why ? it can only be that they valued him more than we did . 
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Metalmicky on June 18, 2019, 08:15:47 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...

That’s a bit harsh!!!

True, but at least he stopped worrying for 10 mins while he did his essay on "why there are no answers..!!!"






MM, why include me as one of those that are panicking?
If you got your head out of your jacksie for a minute and read my posts you would find that I am totally the opposite.
Of course I expect you to copy in the post where I said something about us not having a team for the first friendly but that was a tongue in cheek (where is that emoji by the way) comment aimed at those that are panicking.



OK, you're off the list.............. for now  :lol:
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 18, 2019, 08:17:31 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...

That’s a bit harsh!!!

True, but at least he stopped worrying for 10 mins while he did his essay on "why there are no answers..!!!"






MM, why include me as one of those that are panicking?
If you got your head out of your jacksie for a minute and read my posts you would find that I am totally the opposite.
Of course I expect you to copy in the post where I said something about us not having a team for the first friendly but that was a tongue in cheek (where is that emoji by the way) comment aimed at those that are panicking.



OK, you're off the list.............. for now  :lol:






Good job mate.  :boxing:
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: PDX_Rover on June 18, 2019, 08:18:00 pm
Good job our manager is McCann then. Was worried there for a second...

Pedantic Kitson. Would you like me to edit it, just for you?

No but try harder. It’s not that difficult to master is it? You’re just embarrassing yourself.

How's that exactly?

By missing one letter from someone's name?


I thought you'd get involved in sticking up on behalf of the negative bell ends society. Like flies round a turd.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: PDX_Rover on June 18, 2019, 08:20:31 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...
If you agreed that everything is hunky dory that fine , so seeing players leave particularly after supposedly turning good deals down is also fine , then it’s only natural to seek answers if I do not .Yes things get said out of frustration on here but as none of us have crystal ball but can only respond to what is happening currently. Players contracts were known about by everyone since last season , so the apparent fallout is remarkable as the club achieved its targets and went down fighting all the way . However that ugly word ‘ Budget’ rears it’s head annually and if it wasn’t debated then we would assume that possibly selling our best players was also natural and a good thing. Imo the board who do fantastic job and have taken DRFC into the 21st century are to be commended. Yet only if we don’t examine the whys and wherefores can we ever get closer to excepting that it’s going to be another season of unknowns and missed opportunities. Agree or disagree I don’t care I’m saying it’s my view of what i see and  that is the club will not push the boat out but pressure McCann to achieve what they won’t pay for . 

Here's the thing though... It's NEVER hunky dory for you. All you do is constantly, and I mean constantly, live in a state of panic and negativity. It matters not a jot what the club does. You're Private Fraser. It's tiresome.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: since-1969 on June 18, 2019, 08:40:52 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...
If you agreed that everything is hunky dory that fine , so seeing players leave particularly after supposedly turning good deals down is also fine , then it’s only natural to seek answers if I do not .Yes things get said out of frustration on here but as none of us have crystal ball but can only respond to what is happening currently. Players contracts were known about by everyone since last season , so the apparent fallout is remarkable as the club achieved its targets and went down fighting all the way . However that ugly word ‘ Budget’ rears it’s head annually and if it wasn’t debated then we would assume that possibly selling our best players was also natural and a good thing. Imo the board who do fantastic job and have taken DRFC into the 21st century are to be commended. Yet only if we don’t examine the whys and wherefores can we ever get closer to excepting that it’s going to be another season of unknowns and missed opportunities. Agree or disagree I don’t care I’m saying it’s my view of what i see and  that is the club will not push the boat out but pressure McCann to achieve what they won’t pay for . 

Here's the thing though... It's NEVER hunky dory for you. All you do is constantly, and I mean constantly, live in a state of panic and negativity. It matters not a jot what the club does. You're Private Fraser. It's tiresome.
tough !!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bessie Red on June 18, 2019, 09:05:08 pm
Can someone do a poll for people to vote and decide who is the biggest panic merchant on the VSC...... since-1969 and drfchound have got to be front runners surely...
If you agreed that everything is hunky dory that fine , so seeing players leave particularly after supposedly turning good deals down is also fine , then it’s only natural to seek answers if I do not .Yes things get said out of frustration on here but as none of us have crystal ball but can only respond to what is happening currently. Players contracts were known about by everyone since last season , so the apparent fallout is remarkable as the club achieved its targets and went down fighting all the way . However that ugly word ‘ Budget’ rears it’s head annually and if it wasn’t debated then we would assume that possibly selling our best players was also natural and a good thing. Imo the board who do fantastic job and have taken DRFC into the 21st century are to be commended. Yet only if we don’t examine the whys and wherefores can we ever get closer to excepting that it’s going to be another season of unknowns and missed opportunities. Agree or disagree I don’t care I’m saying it’s my view of what i see and  that is the club will not push the boat out but pressure McCann to achieve what they won’t pay for . 

But the word “Budget” only gets spoke about by fans like your self. If by the first game of the season our team is looking weaker than last season then I’ll be in total agreement, but to start panicking about the Budget before we’ve even started signing players is crazy
We are selling because we’ve put a lid on the amount that against others that we will not go above. That’s fair but so is the fallout . A player leaves to a club tha has half the crowds we have , Why ? it can only be that they valued him more than we did . 

And that's their perogative. I'm sure we  valued Halliday more than Cambridge and were prepared to pay him more to get him, it's what happens in football. Why so much drama!!!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on June 18, 2019, 09:53:18 pm
McCann is wise to let this be till tomorrow. No comment by then and it risks throwing current player negotiations to the wall.

The bottom line will be how much money they'd be offering, it could be irrestistable. I wouldn't blame him if he left. I'd hope the club would get substantial compensation, and then we move on.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 18, 2019, 09:58:24 pm
He’s just been talking all over the media about how money shouldn’t be the first thing players think about.
Would make himself look a little silly if he left us because of the money on offer
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on June 18, 2019, 10:04:08 pm
He would go up a division though so is also a career move (albeit they are a mess). He would look a bit bad though.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 18, 2019, 11:20:56 pm
McCanns odds have dropped from 1.73 to 1.53.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Drover on June 18, 2019, 11:32:02 pm
McCanns odds have dropped from 1.73 to 1.53.

And thats after radio Sheff claim Rovers say,there has been no contact and it will be unwelcome if there is and the free press say rumours are wide of the mark,yet odds shorten a little,bit strange.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 18, 2019, 11:42:18 pm
McCanns odds have dropped from 1.73 to 1.53.

And thats after radio Sheff claim Rovers say,there has been no contact and it will be unwelcome if there is and the free press say rumours are wide of the mark,yet odds shorten a little,bit strange.

Yep, not looking great at this point is it? As you say things arent stacking up.

That being said, even now i would still be suprised if he went to Hull.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: karldew on June 19, 2019, 06:30:10 am
I personally think Hull will end up with Gary Monk after his sacking yesterday.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Alickismyhero on June 19, 2019, 07:22:26 am
Why is there no official statement on the Donny website?????

We only have a few lines in the local paper, which can't be considered reliable!!!!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Nudga on June 19, 2019, 07:30:08 am
Dude, it's 7.30,the news only broke late afternoon yesterday.

I would expect an official statement sometime after nine o'clock.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 19, 2019, 07:36:54 am
He’s not going to Hull City. It’s unsubstantiated guess work by a bookie. Rovers have said there’s been absolutely no approach.  There’s nothing at all to back this up. Hull are being connected with loads of Managers, from the guy at Hibs to Sol Campbell to Gary Monk.

Stop panicking

Besides, Hull City won’t recruit any manager where they’d be required to pay compensation.

Christ, it’s nice to see the English mantra of ‘Keep Calm & Carry On’ has bypassed Donny.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: VivaRovers on June 19, 2019, 07:58:15 am
Do you honestly think  EXPERIENCE is worth more than all the values and commitment Copps has shown to our club .

Yes. I've been committed to Rovers longer than Copps and I'd be an awful manager.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Campsall rover on June 19, 2019, 11:43:53 am
He’s not going to Hull City. It’s unsubstantiated guess work by a bookie. Rovers have said there’s been absolutely no approach.  There’s nothing at all to back this up. Hull are being connected with loads of Managers, from the guy at Hibs to Sol Campbell to Gary Monk.

Stop panicking

Besides, Hull City won’t recruit any manager where they’d be required to pay compensation.

Christ, it’s nice to see the English mantra of ‘Keep Calm & Carry On’ has bypassed Donny.
To be honest HH even i panicked a bit when i saw the ‘odds on’ being quoted on McCann.
Question is bookies don’t drop too many clangers do they. Where are these odds coming from?
Either someone has put a huge amount on him or they are being passed false info.
What could another reason be other than he has actually gone for an interview.
Please tell me i have got it wrong on that last sentence.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 19, 2019, 11:44:00 am
He’s not going to Hull City. It’s unsubstantiated guess work by a bookie. Rovers have said there’s been absolutely no approach.  There’s nothing at all to back this up. Hull are being connected with loads of Managers, from the guy at Hibs to Sol Campbell to Gary Monk.

Stop panicking

Besides, Hull City won’t recruit any manager where they’d be required to pay compensation.

Christ, it’s nice to see the English mantra of ‘Keep Calm & Carry On’ has bypassed Donny.

McCann was ‘unavailable’ for his usual press conference with the DFP yesterday and the Hulls owners have said they are willing to pay comp.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 11:49:20 am
He’s not going to Hull City. It’s unsubstantiated guess work by a bookie. Rovers have said there’s been absolutely no approach.  There’s nothing at all to back this up. Hull are being connected with loads of Managers, from the guy at Hibs to Sol Campbell to Gary Monk.

Stop panicking

Besides, Hull City won’t recruit any manager where they’d be required to pay compensation.

Christ, it’s nice to see the English mantra of ‘Keep Calm & Carry On’ has bypassed Donny.

McCann was ‘unavailable’ for his usual press conference with the DFP yesterday and the Hulls owners have said they are willing to pay comp.

McCann's normal press conference is held on a Thursday.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Campsall rover on June 19, 2019, 12:04:34 pm
I would be flabbergasted if he was even remotely interested in the Hull job to be honest.
Club in decline under current owners. Attendances in free fall. Etc etc.
I think he is on a work in progress at DRFC and can’t see him going anywhere at all unless a “Good Club” ( well run club) like Rovers come in for him and make an offer he simply can’t turn down.
I don’t usually panic but those odds i saw this morning did make me sit up a bit.
I do think the bookies may have got some poor info on this one.
Hopefully we get a statement from GM refuting the speculation today.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 19, 2019, 12:15:41 pm
I would be flabbergasted if he was even remotely interested in the Hull job to be honest.
Club in decline under current owners. Attendances in free fall. Etc etc.
I think he is on a work in progress at DRFC and can’t see him going anywhere at all unless a “Good Club” ( well run club) like Rovers come in for him and make an offer he simply can’t turn down.
I don’t usually panic but those odds i saw this morning did make me sit up a bit.
I do think the bookies may have got some poor info on this one.
Hopefully we get a statement from GM refuting the speculation today.

Same here. I had a worry at first when I saw the odds. Then after looking into it a bit I realised there’s nothing substantial in it except somebody, somewhere has had a big wager!

The facts are:
Rovers have had no contact
We’ve warned Hull off
Plenty of other Managers are also being linked
It even caught out the press in Hull that his name was put forward
As you rightly say, Hull are a club with big problems. The fact Nigel Adkins left after he’d been touting himself for the Hull job for years tells you the club is terribly run
There’s plenty of reasons to stay at the Rovers

So, based purely on the facts there’s no reason to think he’s going so let’s not worry until we know more. (If there is more to know)
Stranger things have happened though
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 19, 2019, 12:27:27 pm
He’s not going to Hull City. It’s unsubstantiated guess work by a bookie. Rovers have said there’s been absolutely no approach.  There’s nothing at all to back this up. Hull are being connected with loads of Managers, from the guy at Hibs to Sol Campbell to Gary Monk.

Stop panicking

Besides, Hull City won’t recruit any manager where they’d be required to pay compensation.

Christ, it’s nice to see the English mantra of ‘Keep Calm & Carry On’ has bypassed Donny.

McCann was ‘unavailable’ for his usual press conference with the DFP yesterday and the Hulls owners have said they are willing to pay comp.

McCann's normal press conference is held on a Thursday.

FYI - https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-link-with-hull-city-wide-of-the-mark-177766

DFP confirming he was unavailable for their usual press conference on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Ldr on June 19, 2019, 12:35:23 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 19, 2019, 12:37:10 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

Could be anything. It seems weird that he was unavailable (which I would imagine would be in the day) and then it comes out in the evening that he is a strong favourite for the Hull job.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 12:40:22 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Move DRFC on June 19, 2019, 12:40:44 pm
Just me who doesn't see the point in discussing stuff like this, where he might have been yesterday instead of press conference, why he might be fav etc etc. What will be will be! Let's just see what happens. I think he'll stay, but what can we do.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: RobTheRover on June 19, 2019, 12:55:48 pm
Agreed, Move

One day, he wont be here.

That is certain.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Lifelong supporter on June 19, 2019, 01:17:39 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 19, 2019, 01:21:20 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?

Bit harsh there Lifelong
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 01:56:41 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?

You're a clown. Did I say I'd rung them?

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: RoversAlias on June 19, 2019, 02:27:39 pm
Luke Thornhill, Media manager for the club, responded to me on Twitter with this regarding McCann being unavailable today:

"Grant didn’t do his chat on Tues so we could avoid news stories other than our signings this week. Should have the first confirmed today after concluding paperwork. No conspiracy."
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 02:29:05 pm
He’s not going to Hull City. It’s unsubstantiated guess work by a bookie. Rovers have said there’s been absolutely no approach.  There’s nothing at all to back this up. Hull are being connected with loads of Managers, from the guy at Hibs to Sol Campbell to Gary Monk.

Stop panicking

Besides, Hull City won’t recruit any manager where they’d be required to pay compensation.

Christ, it’s nice to see the English mantra of ‘Keep Calm & Carry On’ has bypassed Donny.

McCann was ‘unavailable’ for his usual press conference with the DFP yesterday and the Hulls owners have said they are willing to pay comp.

McCann's normal press conference is held on a Thursday.

FYI - https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-link-with-hull-city-wide-of-the-mark-177766

DFP confirming he was unavailable for their usual press conference on Tuesday.


Try this explanation from the clubs media team;

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 19, 2019, 02:31:42 pm
Note the plural - “signingS”.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on June 19, 2019, 02:38:02 pm
Surely not one out and two in!!???
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: RugbyRover on June 19, 2019, 02:46:45 pm
Luke Thornhill, Media manager for the club, responded to me on Twitter with this regarding McCann being unavailable today:

"Grant didn’t do his chat on Tues so we could avoid news stories other than our signings this week. Should have the first confirmed today after concluding paperwork. No conspiracy."

all it says is that they didn't want the story of McCann leaving to get in the way of the story of the new signings.....................
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Lifelong supporter on June 19, 2019, 02:48:39 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?

You're a clown. Did I say I'd rung them?

Not sure I said you had rung them either.
So who's the Coco?
It was intended as a light-hearted remark, but you've instantly bitten as usual.
Don't worry I do realise they are constantly in touch with you, which is only right as you are very important. 
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bessie Red on June 19, 2019, 03:09:49 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?

You're a clown. Did I say I'd rung them?

Not sure I said you had rung them either.
So who's the Coco?
It was intended as a light-hearted remark, but you've instantly bitten as usual.
Don't worry I do realise they are constantly in touch with you, which is only right as you are very important. 
Well he's more important to us fans than you.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 03:11:37 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?

You're a clown. Did I say I'd rung them?

Not sure I said you had rung them either.
So who's the Coco?
It was intended as a light-hearted remark, but you've instantly bitten as usual.
Don't worry I do realise they are constantly in touch with you, which is only right as you are very important. 
Well he's more important to us fans than you.

Which fans?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bessie Red on June 19, 2019, 03:15:09 pm
Most sensible grounded Rovers fans
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: scawsby steve on June 19, 2019, 03:17:50 pm
All the work Martin does for DRFC and the FSF is completely voluntary. I think that is admirable.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 03:20:32 pm
Most sensible grounded Rovers fans

And the rest don't matter?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: glosterred on June 19, 2019, 03:21:05 pm
Note the plural - “signingS”.

I like plural when it comes to signings, just hope the ink doesn’t run out to soon!

COYR
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on June 19, 2019, 03:28:41 pm
Middleton next maybe?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 03:59:04 pm
Most sensible grounded Rovers fans

And the rest don't matter?

Of course the rest matter. I've headed up an organisation for near on 20 years that has a membership in excess of 500,000 and had to defend a lot of them on numerous occasions, including umpteen DRFC fans. I've more than done my bit.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 04:00:42 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?

You're a clown. Did I say I'd rung them?

Not sure I said you had rung them either.
So who's the Coco?
It was intended as a light-hearted remark, but you've instantly bitten as usual.
Don't worry I do realise they are constantly in touch with you, which is only right as you are very important. 

Yep, I am. The work we do carries on throughout the summer, no rest for the wicked and all that.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 04:04:25 pm
All the work Martin does for DRFC and the FSF is completely voluntary. I think that is admirable.

Cheers Steve. I give up all of my spare time and a bit more than that as well. And it is mine to give up, my choice. I spent last night chairing a meeting with reps from all SY clubs, and Monday I spent a few hours chatting to senior officers from SY Police, which will benefit all football fans in SY in the near future. Watch this space.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bessie Red on June 19, 2019, 04:26:23 pm
Most sensible grounded Rovers fans

And the rest don't matter?
Where have I said the rest don't matter?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 19, 2019, 05:01:41 pm
Odds dropped further to 1.44. f**k.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Filo on June 19, 2019, 05:03:32 pm
Most sensible grounded Rovers fans

And the rest don't matter?

Is someones mask slipping 😜
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: RobTheRover on June 19, 2019, 05:46:27 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?

You're a clown. Did I say I'd rung them?

Not sure I said you had rung them either.
So who's the Coco?
It was intended as a light-hearted remark, but you've instantly bitten as usual.
Don't worry I do realise they are constantly in touch with you, which is only right as you are very important. 

Yep, I am. The work we do carries on throughout the summer, no rest for the wicked and all that.



You must have been a very naughty boy in a previous life, Martin ;)
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 19, 2019, 05:55:01 pm
Hull Daily Mail confirmed that Hull City have approached Rovers about McCann today.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: RoversAlias on June 19, 2019, 05:58:30 pm
Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post says that there have been informal discussions between the two clubs but no formal approach yet.

Maybe I'm being naive but I honestly don't think he'd go, unless Adkins told McCann it would be a brilliant move for him. Something I'd be confused by considering the fact Adkins has just walked out of the place.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Filo on June 19, 2019, 06:03:25 pm
Two recent comments from McCann, stand out for me, both contradict each other

1) We don’t want people that don’t want to be here

2) Come here do well and earn your big money move


Which one is it Grant?

The lack of comment from him s only fueling more speculation
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: PDX_Rover on June 19, 2019, 06:06:27 pm
Two recent comments from McCann, stand out for me, both contradict each other

1) We don’t want people that don’t want to be here

2) Come here do well and earn your big money move


Which one is it Grant?

The lack of comment from him s only fueling more speculation

Presumably you’d want to come and do well and want to play to put yourself in the run unit for a big move?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 06:17:45 pm
There’s obviously more to it than the comments that have come from the club.
It would’ve been nipped in the bud today with a statement if there was nothing in it
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Filo on June 19, 2019, 06:24:41 pm
Two recent comments from McCann, stand out for me, both contradict each other

1) We don’t want people that don’t want to be here

2) Come here do well and earn your big money move


Which one is it Grant?

The lack of comment from him s only fueling more speculation

Presumably you’d want to come and do well and want to play to put yourself in the run unit for a big move?

Yes, so does that apply to his situation
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: pib on June 19, 2019, 06:26:34 pm
Why on earth would the club or Grant McCann make a statement/comment if there has been no formal approach?

Quite feasibly the club could accept an approach for him, he could go there and meet with Hull City and then decide it's not for him based on who he'd be working for, budgets, salary, prospects for the future, or any number of things. Nobody can rule anything out either way at the moment as no approach has been made, so why would there be a statement from any party?

Why fans think that they are entitled to know every conversation or movement regarding their football club is a source of bafflement to me.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Boomstick on June 19, 2019, 06:38:09 pm
Are we allowed to panic yet?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 06:38:58 pm
Are we allowed to panic yet?

Not yet, no.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: pib on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 pm
I think Grant McCann is doing a great job here and would be gutted to see him leave, but the most annoying thing about this would be the timing if it was to happen.

I hope the board have a few ideas up their sleeve as to who they'd like to go for if this does happen. Not saying it will, but it never hurts to have a contingency plan.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: keith79 on June 19, 2019, 06:42:14 pm
If anything is to happen it need to be sorted soon.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Filo on June 19, 2019, 06:44:13 pm
Are we allowed to panic yet?

Not yet, no.


I’d sooner you say no not at all
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 06:45:20 pm
Looks like what I was told yesterday was correct after all
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 06:48:33 pm
Looks like what I was told yesterday was correct after all

Go on, I'll bite. What was you told yesterday?

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Alan Southstand on June 19, 2019, 06:48:44 pm
Going on our previous history of how long it takes us to appoint someone, I would say the time has already passed.

All GM had to do is confirm his position.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 06:50:12 pm
Looks like what I was told yesterday was correct after all

Go on, I'll bite. What was you told yesterday?

Earlier in this thread. That'll he will be talking to Hull
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 06:50:33 pm
Are we allowed to panic yet?

Not yet, no.


I’d sooner you say no not at all

You can't say that, this is football, things can and do change very quickly.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Copps is Magic on June 19, 2019, 06:51:58 pm
Am I getting lost in a sea of internet turds or something here but didn't we hear from someone, somewhere yesterday that an approach would be ''rejected straight away" and today we learn they are having discussions.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 06:52:59 pm
Looks like what I was told yesterday was correct after all

Go on, I'll bite. What was you told yesterday?

Earlier in this thread. That'll he will be talking to Hull

We'll see. Hull are casting their net very wide, my understanding is there's a good half a dozen names in the frame. That doesn't mean they'll all be interviewed, or that the half a dozen will even want to be interviewed. So currently it's speculation by certain individuals.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 06:54:32 pm
Am I getting lost in a sea of internet turds or something here but didn't we hear from someone, somewhere yesterday that an approach would be ''rejected straight away" and today we learn they are having discussions.


Nobody's confirmed discussions are taking place. Again, it's speculation at this point.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 19, 2019, 06:54:46 pm
If he did leave I would be absolutely gobsmacked! I can’t understand why any Manager would want to go to Hull City at the moment.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 06:56:39 pm
Am I getting lost in a sea of internet turds or something here but didn't we hear from someone, somewhere yesterday that an approach would be ''rejected straight away" and today we learn they are having discussions.


Nobody's confirmed discussions are taking place. Again, it's speculation at this point.

Hoping it's all resolved quickly either way. It would be a disaster
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 19, 2019, 07:06:08 pm
Two recent comments from McCann, stand out for me, both contradict each other

1) We don’t want people that don’t want to be here

2) Come here do well and earn your big money move


Which one is it Grant?

The lack of comment from him s only fueling more speculation





Fully agree with that last sentence.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Alan Southstand on June 19, 2019, 07:14:38 pm
It will smack a bit of double standards after all he's said in the media, this last few days.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Alickismyhero on June 19, 2019, 07:17:55 pm
What is good for the goose is good for the gander!!!

If GM is going for an interview for the job at Hull can we not invite good canditates for the managers job at Donny at the same time?

After all "I only want Rovers players/manager who want to be here".

Its all a game.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 19, 2019, 07:20:10 pm
What is good for the goose is good for the gander!!!

If GM is going for an interview for the job at Hull can we not invite good canditates for the managers job at Donny at the same time?

After all "I only want Rovers players/manager who want to be here".

Its all a game.






Well, yes why not.
We have to look after ourselves don’t we.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 07:33:55 pm
Why on earth would the club or Grant McCann make a statement/comment if there has been no formal approach?

Quite feasibly the club could accept an approach for him, he could go there and meet with Hull City and then decide it's not for him based on who he'd be working for, budgets, salary, prospects for the future, or any number of things. Nobody can rule anything out either way at the moment as no approach has been made, so why would there be a statement from any party?

Why fans think that they are entitled to know every conversation or movement regarding their football club is a source of bafflement to me.

To end all this speculation
Nothing to do with fans wanting to know the ins and outs,
Wouldn’t take much for McCann to come out and say he’s not interested in going there as he’s got a job to do here.

It’s not an unusual thing to happen.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Filo on June 19, 2019, 07:37:53 pm
Why on earth would the club or Grant McCann make a statement/comment if there has been no formal approach?

Quite feasibly the club could accept an approach for him, he could go there and meet with Hull City and then decide it's not for him based on who he'd be working for, budgets, salary, prospects for the future, or any number of things. Nobody can rule anything out either way at the moment as no approach has been made, so why would there be a statement from any party?

Why fans think that they are entitled to know every conversation or movement regarding their football club is a source of bafflement to me.

To end all this speculation
Nothing to do with fans wanting to know the ins and outs,
Wouldn’t take much for McCann to come out and say he’s not interested in going there as he’s got a job to do here.

It’s not an unusual thing to happen.

I agree, and the timing is awful, he’s just dismantled half of our play off team
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 19, 2019, 07:40:12 pm
Odds have now dropped even further to 1.29. Looking forward to the Hull at home pre season friendly.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 19, 2019, 07:42:35 pm
Odds have now dropped even further to 1.29. Looking forward to the Hull at home pre season friendly.






I wonder which dugout McCann will be in.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 19, 2019, 07:45:12 pm
If he goes, he goes, no one is bigger than the club. I don’t want him to go, especially to a team like Hull with all their problems. We will have to wait and see then move on, whichever way it pans out
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: drfchound on June 19, 2019, 07:48:29 pm
If he goes, he goes, no one is bigger than the club. I don’t want him to go, especially to a team like Hull with all their problems. We will have to wait and see then move on, whichever way it pans out





I would like him to stay, especially after what he achieved with the team.
However, as others have said, the timing is crap for us, especially as he has dismantled a good team, telling us that he only wants players who want to play for DRFC.
If he was to leave now after saying all that it would be very poor from him, double standards.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Boomstick on June 19, 2019, 07:49:37 pm
Are we allowed to panic yet?

Not yet, no.

Well nothing at all from the club or mcann is aleiviating any concerns.
I'm not surprised though
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on June 19, 2019, 07:51:18 pm
Last night I wasn't worried. Now I am. Statement from McCann saying he isn't interested would go a long way.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: pib on June 19, 2019, 07:51:42 pm
Why on earth would the club or Grant McCann make a statement/comment if there has been no formal approach?

Quite feasibly the club could accept an approach for him, he could go there and meet with Hull City and then decide it's not for him based on who he'd be working for, budgets, salary, prospects for the future, or any number of things. Nobody can rule anything out either way at the moment as no approach has been made, so why would there be a statement from any party?

Why fans think that they are entitled to know every conversation or movement regarding their football club is a source of bafflement to me.

To end all this speculation
Nothing to do with fans wanting to know the ins and outs,
Wouldn’t take much for McCann to come out and say he’s not interested in going there as he’s got a job to do here.

It’s not an unusual thing to happen.

Why would he do that? He might be interested?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 08:06:37 pm
Exactly

So by not saying anything he’s telling us he is interested
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: pib on June 19, 2019, 08:08:10 pm
He might be interested. Doesn’t mean he’d end up going or that Hull City would pick him vs other candidates.

As it stands there is no real news. I wouldn’t expect any official word from the club or the manager until there is actually something to report.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 08:09:23 pm
Exactly

So by not saying anything he’s telling us he is interested

No, by not saying anything, he’s not saying anything..
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 08:13:38 pm
Exactly

So by not saying anything he’s telling us he is interested

No, by not saying anything, he’s not saying anything..

Not really no,
Often when managers are linked with other jobs they come out and say they aren’t interested as they have a big job on here etc etc.
The point is if he wanted to nip the speculation in the bud he could do so very quickly.

Can’t be good for players about to sign either all this
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: pib on June 19, 2019, 08:15:48 pm
“All this”?

It’s only just been confirmed in the press that Hull are interested within the past couple of hours. Before that it was pure unfounded speculation.

How f**king quick do you want a statement to be issued? Christ.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 08:18:10 pm
Speculation has been going on since yesterday lunchtime cocker
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Campsall rover on June 19, 2019, 08:18:41 pm
Why on earth would the club or Grant McCann make a statement/comment if there has been no formal approach?

Quite feasibly the club could accept an approach for him, he could go there and meet with Hull City and then decide it's not for him based on who he'd be working for, budgets, salary, prospects for the future, or any number of things. Nobody can rule anything out either way at the moment as no approach has been made, so why would there be a statement from any party?

Why fans think that they are entitled to know every conversation or movement regarding their football club is a source of bafflement to me.

To end all this speculation
Nothing to do with fans wanting to know the ins and outs,
Wouldn’t take much for McCann to come out and say he’s not interested in going there as he’s got a job to do here.

It’s not an unusual thing to happen.

I agree, and the timing is awful, he’s just dismantled half of our play off team
Filo, GM hasn’t dismantled half our team. 3 were on loan, 3 were wanting more money than either he thought they were worth or more than the club were prepared to pay ( not in the wage structure ) or both those.
I am pretty sure he won’t be going anywhere anyway.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Metalmicky on June 19, 2019, 08:18:51 pm
Exactly

So by not saying anything he’s telling us he is interested

No, by not saying anything, he’s not saying anything..

Not really no,
Often when managers are linked with other jobs they come out and say they aren’t interested as they have a big job on here etc etc.
The point is if he wanted to nip the speculation in the bud he could do so very quickly.

Can’t be good for players about to sign either all this

I hope he does go just to shut you up......
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: pib on June 19, 2019, 08:19:10 pm
Speculation has been going on since yesterday lunchtime cocker

Exactly, speculation.

How many clubs/managers make official statements based on speculation? Not very often. More to the point, how can they comment on speculation until something actually happens, i.e. Hull telling McCann what their plans are so he can decide if it’s for him or not? “Cocker”
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 08:22:10 pm
Exactly

So by not saying anything he’s telling us he is interested

No, by not saying anything, he’s not saying anything..

Not really no,
Often when managers are linked with other jobs they come out and say they aren’t interested as they have a big job on here etc etc.
The point is if he wanted to nip the speculation in the bud he could do so very quickly.

Can’t be good for players about to sign either all this

Still speculation.  No comment means no comment..
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on June 19, 2019, 08:23:15 pm
Tend to agree, the silence fuels it and it's a huge blow to lose him at this very moment in the window too.

I really hope he stays, really do.  I guess we cant complain if he is ambitious and wants to move up a level but it would be disappointing.  Equally it wouldn't in my opinion be his best move. A good season here and his stock gets higher. So far he has achieved not a huge amount so is still a risk.

Would I take a punt on him if I was Hull though? Probably yes.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 08:23:47 pm
Never said anything about official statements. Although People were saying yesterday they expected a statement this morning, denyng an approach had been made. Unofficially on Twitter the media team have said there’s nothing in it but then media in Hull say he has been approached. Therefore if our club is saying one thing and Hull are saying another it needs clearing up 
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 08:26:28 pm
Media in Hull, or their club.?

We have speculation and b*llocks every close season.  I don’t get this obsession these days that some fans want information and statements yesterday.!

What will be will be..
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Campsall rover on June 19, 2019, 08:26:56 pm
The way many of you are turning against GM any one would have thought he had already gone.
A bit of perspective needed i think.
This is all speculation with no substance whatsoever as usual.

I am sure some statement nipping this in the bud will be made tomorrow.
It needs to be thats for sure even if only to close this thread down.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 19, 2019, 08:28:28 pm
After a great season it’s one step forward and two back for us IF McCann goes.

There’s no one really to blame. Clubs our size are always vulnerable to these situations and we have to deal with the challenge. 

Either way I agree that this speculation will have done us some harm. Behind the scenes the players will know what has happened and it may take away McCanns authority over the players.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 19, 2019, 08:29:18 pm
Agree with last post. GM is our manager and has proved a good one. Looking at making signings for the club, our club, not Hull’s
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Campsall rover on June 19, 2019, 08:29:39 pm
Oh isn’t the close season fun.
Much better than the real football season.  :crying: :facepalm: :headbang: :crying: :facepalm: :headbang:
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 08:29:56 pm
Aren’t the players on holidays.?

How would they know what’s going on with the manager, unless he tells them.??
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Metalmicky on June 19, 2019, 08:31:30 pm
Aren’t the players on holidays.?

How would they know what’s going on with the manager, unless he tells them.??

This internet thing works everywhere I believe....
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 19, 2019, 08:33:27 pm
The way many of you are turning against GM any one would have thought he had already gone.
A bit of perspective needed i think.
This is all speculation with no substance whatsoever as usual.

I am sure some statement nipping this in the bud will be made tomorrow.
It needs to be thats for sure even if only to close this thread down.

“All speculation and no substance”

It’s not though is it? The two clubs have been in discussions.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 08:36:18 pm
Media in Hull, or their club.?

We have speculation and b*llocks every close season.  I don’t get this obsession these days that some fans want information and statements yesterday.!

What will be will be..

Who’s wanting information?
Just stating if McCann wanted to end the speculation he could do.
He’s on twitter all the time.

And if we’ve two or theee players lined up then it’s obviously going to be unnerving for them
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 08:38:56 pm
The way many of you are turning against GM any one would have thought he had already gone.
A bit of perspective needed i think.
This is all speculation with no substance whatsoever as usual.

I am sure some statement nipping this in the bud will be made tomorrow.
It needs to be thats for sure even if only to close this thread down.

“All speculation and no substance”

It’s not though is it? The two clubs have been in discussions.

No they haven't.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: eastender on June 19, 2019, 08:43:10 pm
Media in Hull, or their club.?

We have speculation and b*llocks every close season.  I don’t get this obsession these days that some fans want information and statements yesterday.!

What will be will be..

Who’s wanting information?
Just stating if McCann wanted to end the speculation he could do.
He’s on twitter all the time.

And if we’ve two or three players lined up then it’s obviously going to be unnerving for them

It didn't seem to make Reece James nervy , surely GM would have been honest with him.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 08:45:08 pm
Yes but that may have been sorted a couple of days ago
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Campsall rover on June 19, 2019, 08:49:52 pm
The way many of you are turning against GM any one would have thought he had already gone.
A bit of perspective needed i think.
This is all speculation with no substance whatsoever as usual.

I am sure some statement nipping this in the bud will be made tomorrow.
It needs to be thats for sure even if only to close this thread down.

“All speculation and no substance”

It’s not though is it? The two clubs have been in discussions.
Has that been made official by the club? Genuine question. If it has then ok.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 19, 2019, 08:51:07 pm
If the signing of James was done yesterday or today then why would he say that he had signed because of GM and CB ambition for the club they sold it to him.

https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2019/june/james-impressed-by-mccanns-ambition/

McCann also said https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2019/june/mccann-pleased-to-secure-james-signing/

So if McCann goes then all the signings we were going to make will be having second thoughts at best.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: ExileRover on June 19, 2019, 09:02:36 pm
2/7 now on skybet.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-hull-city-want-to-speak-to-grant-mccann-about-managers-job-but-no-approach-made-so-far-199591
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 09:06:20 pm
So even the bookies are saying there is no approach yet,.??
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 09:11:19 pm
So even the bookies are saying there is no approach yet,.??

Free press isn’t a bookie
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: jackthelad on June 19, 2019, 09:13:14 pm
Worryingly this does seem to be gathering pace.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 09:13:38 pm
Sorry I misread the previous post, the poster quoted odds then the link.

Either way, that still says no approach..
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 09:19:01 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Padge_DRFC on June 19, 2019, 09:20:22 pm
Remember when odriscoll was odds on for Burnley. Then he turned up to their interview and interviewed them 😂
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 09:20:42 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Pancho Regan on June 19, 2019, 09:22:08 pm
Aren’t the players on holidays.?

How would they know what’s going on with the manager, unless he tells them.??

They could be on holiday in Bridlington and that’s not far from Hull.

Just saying....
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 09:25:44 pm
He would be rather daft to go and work for the allams
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 09:27:08 pm
Aren’t the players on holidays.?

How would they know what’s going on with the manager, unless he tells them.??

This internet thing works everywhere I believe....

So where on the internet at the moment does it say what’s going on at the club on private.?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 09:27:43 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Boomstick on June 19, 2019, 09:31:46 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.


How or why would you be privvy to that information?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 09:44:43 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 09:50:44 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 19, 2019, 09:55:58 pm
Enlighten me?

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bessie Red on June 19, 2019, 10:03:15 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 19, 2019, 10:04:05 pm
There are some proper fairies on here tonight. If he leaves, he leaves! If we get someone in quick sharp then we are not so much worse off in terms of time than last close season when the last bloke left.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Spilsby Red on June 19, 2019, 10:08:36 pm
Exactly if he leaves so be it. If he doesn’t so be it
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 19, 2019, 10:11:08 pm
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/grant-mccann-hull-city-manager-2996167
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 10:15:12 pm
There are some proper fairies on here tonight. If he leaves, he leaves! If we get someone in quick sharp then we are not so much worse off in terms of time than last close season when the last bloke left.

Other than we’ve probably got half as many players
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 19, 2019, 10:16:57 pm
“not so much worse off in terms of TIME”

Read the words on the page, not those in your head.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 10:17:45 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 10:18:14 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.


How or why would you be privvy to that information?

As a Supporters Board member I'm entitled to ask questions of this nature.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 19, 2019, 10:19:29 pm
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/grant-mccann-hull-city-manager-2996167

Interesting that they reckon we have a low budget. Wonder what's made them think that?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 10:21:57 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

It's still speculation though.

I'm not saying that Hull are not interested in GM, as they are in a number of other people,  but I do know that discussions have not taken place between the clubs.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 10:23:39 pm
“not so much worse off in terms of TIME”

Read the words on the page, not those in your head.

😂 what relevance does that have.
We could have one player but at least it’s no later than last year.

Odd
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 19, 2019, 10:25:31 pm
You continue to need help. Specialist, professional help. Good luck in getting what you need.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Alan Southstand on June 19, 2019, 10:27:23 pm
Just adding to the speculation, though, SM, is this bookies odds thing, where they just seem to be getting shorter. They are usually on the ball with these sorts of things (excuse the turn of phrase,).

I realise it doesn't mean anything, but it's being fuelled by something? Please don't tell me it's GM's agent ( :facepalm:). Joking, of course.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 10:28:48 pm
You continue to need help. Specialist, professional help. Good luck in getting what you need.

You continue to post the most absurd drivel on here.
You never ever fail
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 19, 2019, 10:32:14 pm
You continue to need help. Specialist, professional help. Good luck in getting what you need.

You continue to post the most absurd drivel on here.
You never ever fail

There are people who can help you. Reach out to them.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 10:33:36 pm
The fact you feel I need help is a massive compliment
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 10:49:48 pm
Just adding to the speculation, though, SM, is this bookies odds thing, where they just seem to be getting shorter. They are usually on the ball with these sorts of things (excuse the turn of phrase,).

I realise it doesn't mean anything, but it's being fuelled by something? Please don't tell me it's GM's agent ( :facepalm:). Joking, of course.

It could be, but if it is then it's completely unprofessional and won't sit well with the club.

I've seen all the posts about the clubs discussing this, I've seen posts about GM being in Hull today, none of that is true. GB has been elsewhere all day and GM has been working his socks off on finalising a few deals.


Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 19, 2019, 10:58:42 pm
If GM leaves then we are worse off then last year.

Grant brought in three loanees,  2 very good 1 useless and 1 signing useless plus agreed to continue with Crawford signing.

We have 12 first team squad members at the moment and one or two of them could go if the money is right. So although GM did well last season and in some peoples eyes can walk on water. If he goes then we are in worst position than last year. With still at least 6 positions still to fill.

But if he goes and I hope he does not then what he said about players are come here work hard improve yourself and money will come when you move on. So he came here he worked hard on a budget that was not one of the best in the league, put a side together that was very competitive and if goes he get his reward in an higher league.
So it appears we may be a club we’re players and managers can grow but we stay still while they move on.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DRNaith on June 19, 2019, 11:00:36 pm
Right then, I don't want to say too much, as it's not for me to say, and I'm not prepared to reveal my source, although my neighbour's dog has just had his car washed. McCann isn't going to Hull.

There, you can sleep easy now.

If you don't believe me, just think back to that time I told you all that we were going to have daylight on Wednesday, right wasn't I???
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bessie Red on June 19, 2019, 11:33:23 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
I don't need to tell myself anything to make me sleep better at night. However it seems to me that you need to feel as though you know everything that's happening at the club and need to let people think you do to make you sleep better at night!! You're a classic bullsh!££er.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: The Beast on June 20, 2019, 06:47:15 am
If Hull City want McCann, with the extra revenue you get in the Championship, they could quite easily offer to treble his wages, nobody would turn that down, especially in such a volatile profession.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: andyst79 on June 20, 2019, 07:00:49 am
Don't think he will go , not the right time or club. Saunders got his fingers burnt when he went to Wolves. What's he doing now?!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: mushRTID on June 20, 2019, 07:04:14 am
Got a feeling today will be a big day in all this.

Come on Grant, finish what you’ve started here!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 20, 2019, 08:10:14 am
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
I don't need to tell myself anything to make me sleep better at night. However it seems to me that you need to feel as though you know everything that's happening at the club and need to let people think you do to make you sleep better at night!! You're a classic bullsh!££er.

What have I said that is bullshit?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: RedRover45 on June 20, 2019, 09:28:18 am
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
I don't need to tell myself anything to make me sleep better at night. However it seems to me that you need to feel as though you know everything that's happening at the club and need to let people think you do to make you sleep better at night!! You're a classic bullsh!££er.

What have I said that is bullshit?

Pretty much everything
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 20, 2019, 09:40:33 am
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
I don't need to tell myself anything to make me sleep better at night. However it seems to me that you need to feel as though you know everything that's happening at the club and need to let people think you do to make you sleep better at night!! You're a classic bullsh!££er.

What have I said that is bullshit?

Pretty much everything

So saying Rowe and Andrew were leaving before it happened? I guess that was bullshit.
Saying Andrew had a different version of events. That was bullshit?

Dry your eyes, muppet.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 20, 2019, 09:51:45 am
Go on then... Give us some good ITK stuff. Not some depressive shit.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on June 20, 2019, 09:53:45 am
Was it you saying Rowe was leaving in January? Out of contract at the end of the season, hardly rocket science.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 20, 2019, 09:56:47 am
Andrew leaving was the worst kept secret, discussions with him and agent were cut off a long time ago. It was odds on that T. Rowe was leaving because he told people at the Sponsors lunch, which was all of 2 months ago. Alfie Beestin said pretty much the same thing on the same day.



Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 20, 2019, 10:06:50 am
Andrew leaving was the worst kept secret, discussions with him and agent were cut off a long time ago. It was odds on that T. Rowe was leaving because he told people at the Sponsors lunch, which was all of 2 months ago. Alfie Beestin said pretty much the same thing on the same day.

If it was such common knowledge, why did no one else post it on here?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 20, 2019, 10:40:38 am
And if you are in the know with the other side of the Andrew story, you don’t feel the need to elaborate properly..

That’s why folks get pissed off - not because there will be two sides to a story..
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 20, 2019, 10:46:20 am
And if you are in the know with the other side of the Andrew story, you don’t feel the need to elaborate properly..

That’s why folks get pissed off - not because there will be two sides to a story..

It isn't my place to say. He said he had a different version, then the day after he also posted this on Twitter. It's family related, i'm guessing he doesn't want it plastered all over the internet.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 20, 2019, 11:14:31 am
Why does everyone get so annoyed when people have inside information?
I was told in December by someone who’s close to tommy Rowe that he wouldn’t be renewing his contract and posted it in the rumour mill as it was a rumour but also just got people kicking up a fuss.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: RedRover45 on June 20, 2019, 11:20:19 am
Andrew leaving was the worst kept secret, discussions with him and agent were cut off a long time ago. It was odds on that T. Rowe was leaving because he told people at the Sponsors lunch, which was all of 2 months ago. Alfie Beestin said pretty much the same thing on the same day.

If it was such common knowledge, why did no one else post it on here?

Because other people on here aren't so attention seeking as you ?
Question for you as you 'seem' to know so much. Do you work at the club or know someone that does because I don't think that would go down very well. Hardly professional if you do.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on June 20, 2019, 11:32:36 am
The problem with 'inside information' is

1. Why have you been told something is there an agenda? Could be a disgruntled person an agent etc etc.  Particularly in football!
2. Is it true, has it changed?
3. Are you causing problems passing that on?
4. If it's just timing, why does it always have to be me first, me first?

The news will all come out in time, but the modern world  and modern news has created a thirst for fast news and rumours, particularly in football.

Back to the topic of Mccann, all quiet this morning, that has to be a good thing.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: bpoolrover on June 20, 2019, 11:35:52 am
the bookies are more often wrong on the new manager of teams in fact I can’t remember last time they actually got 1 right
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 20, 2019, 11:36:08 am
Why does everyone get so annoyed when people have inside information?
I was told in December by someone who’s close to tommy Rowe that he wouldn’t be renewing his contract and posted it in the rumour mill as it was a rumour but also just got people kicking up a fuss.

I'd say the "there's another side to the story I know all about but won't tell anybody" is very annoying. Being ITK is fine in itself. It's just the boasting.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 20, 2019, 11:39:20 am
I agree
But purely passing on information you know to be true such as a player not renewing isn’t boasting it’s just sharing information
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 20, 2019, 11:40:12 am
Often the most visible candidate is a smokescreen so the discussions with the real candidate can take place with less visibility. Remember Keegan ‘definitely’ coming to Rovers, when all along SOD was first choice for JR and it was just convincing him to give up on two decades at Bournemouth that was the delay?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 20, 2019, 11:40:52 am
I agree
But purely passing on information you know to be true such as a player not renewing isn’t boasting it’s just sharing information

That sides fine. Just the boasting they know something but not alluding to what isn't.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 20, 2019, 11:55:55 am
And if you are in the know with the other side of the Andrew story, you don’t feel the need to elaborate properly..

That’s why folks get pissed off - not because there will be two sides to a story..

It isn't my place to say. He said he had a different version, then the day after he also posted this on Twitter. It's family related, i'm guessing he doesn't want it plastered all over the internet.

Exactly.!!

If you can’t tell the whole story, then say nowt in the first place.  Posting part stories is frustrating for everyone else.

That’s why I said put up or shut up..

And even if your insider knowledge on matters DRFC does prove to be subsequently correct, does that give you some feeling of superiority.?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 20, 2019, 12:00:14 pm
Andrew leaving was the worst kept secret, discussions with him and agent were cut off a long time ago. It was odds on that T. Rowe was leaving because he told people at the Sponsors lunch, which was all of 2 months ago. Alfie Beestin said pretty much the same thing on the same day.






The information given by the manager didn’t say it was cut off along time ago. The timeline given was around his stag and wedding and even just after that. It doesn’t matter really they all gone.

Going back to McCann he is quick to have his say via the media yet he’s not come out and said that he’s going nowhere yet. The club have made a statement to gain more compensation if required but GM has said nothing. We all hope he stays and comits to the club as he has asked his players to.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: idler on June 20, 2019, 12:08:33 pm
Thursday is his usual interview day. I'm sure that he will be asked about the Hull City situation unless he has said before it begins no questions about it are allowed.
Should Cliff Byrne do it then speculation would only increase.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on June 20, 2019, 12:10:38 pm
Speculation from DFP hinted at another signing today too.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Bessie Red on June 20, 2019, 12:17:04 pm
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
Yorkshire Post have said informal discussions have taken place.

But they haven't, so the YP is speculating.

That isn't speculating, it's making stuff up.

Going from what I've been told, there's truth in this, and I'm sure he will be allowed to speak with Hull.

From what you’ve been told.?

Put up or shut up..

Look back in the thread, it isn't difficult.
Red army you know nothing you just like winding people up.

Really? Tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.
I don't need to tell myself anything to make me sleep better at night. However it seems to me that you need to feel as though you know everything that's happening at the club and need to let people think you do to make you sleep better at night!! You're a classic bullsh!££er.

What have I said that is bullshit?

Pretty much everything

So saying Rowe and Andrew were leaving before it happened? I guess that was bullshit.
Saying Andrew had a different version of events. That was bullshit?

Dry your eyes, muppet.
I knew Butts & Rowe and possibly Andrew were leaving before the season end. Some people just don't wish to shout it out on here!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 20, 2019, 12:27:27 pm
Andrew leaving was the worst kept secret, discussions with him and agent were cut off a long time ago. It was odds on that T. Rowe was leaving because he told people at the Sponsors lunch, which was all of 2 months ago. Alfie Beestin said pretty much the same thing on the same day.

If it was such common knowledge, why did no one else post it on here?

Maybe because it achieves nothing of any use.

If I was to raise all the issues about players on here then the club wouldn't trust me, so all future discussions and agreements on other supporter issues would be futile. That's one of the reasons why people are angry with your posts suggesting you know something, wink, wink, but refuse to say what it is. It doesn't have any value.

Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on June 20, 2019, 12:44:09 pm
Very true. No one likes or trusts a blabber mouth.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Barmby Rover on June 20, 2019, 02:04:55 pm
The activity being reported in the press of Donny being linked to various players seems a bit odd if the manager is leaving, if he were to leave then surely getting another manager would stop all transfer activity so the new manager would be able to bring in who they wanted. It happened last year when Ferguson left.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 20, 2019, 02:20:16 pm
Odds now down to 1.17 (!). I think we’re in trouble.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 20, 2019, 02:22:08 pm
Why would the bookies be in the know?  The odds only change if people make bets, which they could be doing as a result of rumours and nothing more.?
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 20, 2019, 02:22:24 pm
Odds now down to 1.17 (!). I think we’re in trouble.

Market was suspended earlier, which either means they've had a load of money come in, or they are close to announcing.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 20, 2019, 02:23:07 pm
Why would the bookies be in the know?  The odds only change if people make bets, which they could be doing as a result of rumours and nothing more.?

That simply isn't correct. Bookies will have their contacts and use these to formulate their odds
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: roversdude on June 20, 2019, 02:27:00 pm
Sounds like insider trading
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: IDM on June 20, 2019, 02:31:36 pm
Why would the bookies be in the know?  The odds only change if people make bets, which they could be doing as a result of rumours and nothing more.?

That simply isn't correct. Bookies will have their contacts and use these to formulate their odds

So are you a bookie or one of their insider contacts.?

I’m no expert on betting but I was fairly sure odds change as a result of betting patterns..
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: redarmy82 on June 20, 2019, 02:34:47 pm
Why would the bookies be in the know?  The odds only change if people make bets, which they could be doing as a result of rumours and nothing more.?

That simply isn't correct. Bookies will have their contacts and use these to formulate their odds

So are you a bookie or one of their insider contacts.?

I’m no expert on betting but I was fairly sure odds change as a result of betting patterns..

Of course it has an effect on the price, but it isn't purely based on that.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Filo on June 20, 2019, 03:25:14 pm
It says call not conference, that suggests phone call to me, maybe he was busy with an incoming player?

As I say, Thursday is normal press conference day.

Having spoken to the club several times this week it's obvious that everybody is extremely busy and beavering away. Let them get on with it.

Not too busy to talk to you 'several times' though SM.
When they are 'beavering away' as you put it why don't you let them get on with it as well?

You're a clown. Did I say I'd rung them?



According to Liam Holden Thursday is only presser day during the season
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: sheffield exile1 on June 20, 2019, 03:46:54 pm
Do you honestly think  EXPERIENCE is worth more than all the values and commitment Copps has shown to our club .

It was an awful day when we had to get rid of Snod...
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: dickos1 on June 20, 2019, 03:55:07 pm
Bookies can also be tipped off by people, he wouldn’t have been 2/7 just because of a bet.
Nobody will be signing for us now with this hanging over us as I said yesterday
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Move DRFC on June 20, 2019, 04:01:36 pm
Well things could be about to go quite pear shaped hey lads!

Makes the meltdown about Andrew leaving seem laughable now. This would leave us in a world of trouble. Let's see how the next few days pan out!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 20, 2019, 05:12:57 pm
We're doing a Shrewsbury.
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: silent majority on June 20, 2019, 05:24:48 pm
We're doing a Shrewsbury.

You need to keep the faith. :-)
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on June 20, 2019, 05:27:11 pm
Well things could be about to go quite pear shaped hey lads!

Makes the meltdown about Andrew leaving seem laughable now. This would leave us in a world of trouble. Let's see how the next few days pan out!

And look how that meltdown ended up! We buy a player generally considered to be better than Andrew!
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: roversdude on June 20, 2019, 05:29:03 pm
I hope that was an informed keep the faith
Bizarrely as I write keep the faith by Bon Joni is being played on classic rock
Title: Re: Mccann
Post by: idler on June 20, 2019, 05:59:41 pm
We're doing a Shrewsbury.
There's one or two on here doing their biscuit.😉