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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: CottyRover on June 21, 2019, 09:18:26 am
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Not much good at links but there is an article this morning on the DFP website, GM setting out his plans for squad size etc. Not much new in it,but assuming it is recent would suggest Grant is staying. Is there a fingers crossed emoji?
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All I could find was this one dated last Tuesday
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-stepping-up-recruitment-drive-220357
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This is from Hull Live at 08.17 this morning...
McCann update
It’s only early this Friday morning so there is every chance this story will develop during the day.
As it stands at this stage the news we hear is Grant McCann, on the back of Hull City’s formal approach to Doncaster, met with the Rovers board last night to discuss his future.
Where the manager stands following that meeting nobody knows at this stage, however there appears to be a real confidence within the City camp that they can get this deal done.
When we have more on this, we’ll of course bring you it here.
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But according to one poster on here, apparently in the know, GM was at Hull yesterday..
Slight correction, the poster in question said GM had “been there” yesterday which I assumed he meant at Hull but could have meant meeting our board.
Happy to apologise if I was wrong..
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If you believe most on here then there is no hope
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It won’t change anything knowing if it happened like that but maybe SM can confirm
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Hopefully we offered him a new contract to try and keep him
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All I could find was this one dated last Tuesday
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-stepping-up-recruitment-drive-220357
This one was dated today, I double checked, but as I say, not much new in it so might not be recent.
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Surely we'd offer him a pay rise to try entice him to stay. That meeting was massive for the board, hope they did all they could.
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McCann will be in a very strong position to negotiate a better deal for himself with Terry and the Board and possibly on player budgets. But that runs counter with everything GM's said in the last few weeks since the Play Offs – rigid budgets for playing staff, allegiences to the club, avoiding mercenaries out for the fast buck etc etc....
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McCann will be in a very strong position to negotiate a better deal for himself with Terry and the Board and possibly on player budgets. But that runs counter with everything GM's said in the last few weeks since the Play Offs – rigid budgets for playing staff, allegiences to the club, avoiding mercenaries out for the fast buck etc etc....
nail on head.
Lets just get rid and move on. If he was wanting to run through a brick wall for Doncaster Rovers he could had committed himself days ago. Lets just hope he takes Marquis with him so all the loose ends are tied up at once.
Now.........how about getting Andy Butler back a Player Manager?.............
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He's gone on about only wanting people here who want to be here and IF he doesn't then fair enough, he's a hypocrite and should have left us after the Charlton game so we could have had more time to prepare.
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Why is he a hypocrite.?
If the Hull approach is very recent, and a decision is made quickly then that’s fair enough.. doesn’t mean he was looking for a move away.?
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I really want him to stay but I thought some of the stuff he's said about player salaries and moving people on or not bringing in if they arent 10,000% loyal to DRFC felt a bit naive. You need to make people feel like they're wanted. Hope he stays.
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You expect the manager to say anything different if he had lots of money he would be saying different things. He won’t come out and say I can’t get the players I really want because can’t compete with wages. He’s done what he can with the resources given.
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Why is he a hypocrite.?
If the Hull approach is very recent, and a decision is made quickly then that’s fair enough.. doesn’t mean he was looking for a move away.?
I think it's a bit hypocritical personally, from a man who as recently as last week was saying things along the lines of "we only want players who want to be here, who want to play for Doncaster Rovers". For him to then go as soon as a bigger club come knocking at the door. It makes all that stuff about desire to be here look like meaningless guff, rather than the frank and honest approach we all thought McCann had to his dealings.
If he goes now, he is leaving us high and dry. Pre-season about to begin and no manager, no assistant and missing a huge chunk of a first team squad.
I'm not pouring negativity on, because I do think we'll be fine providing we make an appointment quickly, but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth a bit when it comes to McCann if he is indeed leaving.
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Oh and just to add to the original topic, Liam Hoden confirmed that he had forgot the article in question had been timed to publish on the website this morning. So just unfortunate timing, not an indication of McCann staying.
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Why is he a hypocrite.?
If the Hull approach is very recent, and a decision is made quickly then that’s fair enough.. doesn’t mean he was looking for a move away.?
I think it's a bit hypocritical personally, from a man who as recently as last week was saying things along the lines of "we only want players who want to be here, who want to play for Doncaster Rovers". For him to then go as soon as a bigger club come knocking at the door. It makes all that stuff about desire to be here look like meaningless guff, rather than the frank and honest approach we all thought McCann had to his dealings.
If he goes now, he is leaving us high and dry. Pre-season about to begin and no manager, no assistant and missing a huge chunk of a first team squad.
I'm not pouring negativity on, because I do think we'll be fine providing we make an appointment quickly, but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth a bit when it comes to McCann if he is indeed leaving.
I hear what you are saying, I guess we will never know if he has been actively looking to move away.?
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Why is he a hypocrite.?
If the Hull approach is very recent, and a decision is made quickly then that’s fair enough.. doesn’t mean he was looking for a move away.?
I think it's a bit hypocritical personally, from a man who as recently as last week was saying things along the lines of "we only want players who want to be here, who want to play for Doncaster Rovers". For him to then go as soon as a bigger club come knocking at the door. It makes all that stuff about desire to be here look like meaningless guff, rather than the frank and honest approach we all thought McCann had to his dealings.
If he goes now, he is leaving us high and dry. Pre-season about to begin and no manager, no assistant and missing a huge chunk of a first team squad.
I'm not pouring negativity on, because I do think we'll be fine providing we make an appointment quickly, but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth a bit when it comes to McCann if he is indeed leaving.
Completely agree with this.
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Why is he a hypocrite.?
If the Hull approach is very recent, and a decision is made quickly then that’s fair enough.. doesn’t mean he was looking for a move away.?
I think it's a bit hypocritical personally, from a man who as recently as last week was saying things along the lines of "we only want players who want to be here, who want to play for Doncaster Rovers". For him to then go as soon as a bigger club come knocking at the door. It makes all that stuff about desire to be here look like meaningless guff, rather than the frank and honest approach we all thought McCann had to his dealings.
If he goes now, he is leaving us high and dry. Pre-season about to begin and no manager, no assistant and missing a huge chunk of a first team squad.
I'm not pouring negativity on, because I do think we'll be fine providing we make an appointment quickly, but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth a bit when it comes to McCann if he is indeed leaving.
I hear what you are saying, I guess we will never know if he has been actively looking to move away.?
I doubt he was actively looking, I doubt he was thinking about it all, he seemed focused on building our squad, but as soon as that phone call comes on Tuesday (or whichever day it was now) it seems he's thought "yeah, I'll go for that" which is a bit of a kicker as far as DRFC is concerned.
I know all players and managers eventually move on, even the owners, it is us fans that stay through it all and we will have dozens more managers in my lifetime if I'm lucky enough to live to a grand old age, but the manner of all of this disappoints me greatly.
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Agree alias. He wont have seen it coming. He's said a few things about loyalty in the last few weeks and they now look a bit hypocrytical. But he's a young chap and lets face it whilst it's a tricky decision that he wont want to get wrong but he'll be right enjoying the fact that a relatively big club have come in for him after only a a couple of years in management. Cmon, anybody would be enjoying that attention.
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Why is he a hypocrite.?
If the Hull approach is very recent, and a decision is made quickly then that’s fair enough.. doesn’t mean he was looking for a move away.?
I think it's a bit hypocritical personally, from a man who as recently as last week was saying things along the lines of "we only want players who want to be here, who want to play for Doncaster Rovers". For him to then go as soon as a bigger club come knocking at the door. It makes all that stuff about desire to be here look like meaningless guff, rather than the frank and honest approach we all thought McCann had to his dealings.
If he goes now, he is leaving us high and dry. Pre-season about to begin and no manager, no assistant and missing a huge chunk of a first team squad.
I'm not pouring negativity on, because I do think we'll be fine providing we make an appointment quickly, but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth a bit when it comes to McCann if he is indeed leaving.
I agree, but we fall for it everytime, it seems almost everyone in football is a lying bas**rd
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I really want him to stay but I thought some of the stuff he's said about player salaries and moving people on or not bringing in if they arent 10,000% loyal to DRFC felt a bit naive. You need to make people feel like they're wanted. Hope he stays.
Thank f**k I'm not the only one!
The bloke can't keep his mouth shut, airing the clubs dirty laundry in public, embarrassing himself by talking to the press about 100% done deals which aren't signed and then players chooses to go somewhere else instead, bad mouthing departing players like a dumped bitter ex trying to persuade anyone that'll listen how he's better off without them, how he can and will do better etc. Never been a good look for attracting new players has it?
I for one will be glad to see the back of him as judging by the amount of players that have left the club since last season ended it looks like he'd lost the dressing room, which if you read any of the incredible amount of interviews with the local media he does isn't surprising.
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Lost the dressing room.????
That performance at Charlton leads me to think otherwise..
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I really want him to stay but I thought some of the stuff he's said about player salaries and moving people on or not bringing in if they arent 10,000% loyal to DRFC felt a bit naive. You need to make people feel like they're wanted. Hope he stays.
Thank f**k I'm not the only one!
The bloke can't keep his mouth shut, airing the clubs dirty laundry in public, embarrassing himself by talking to the press about 100% done deals which aren't signed and then players chooses to go somewhere else instead, bad mouthing departing players like a dumped bitter ex trying to persuade anyone that'll listen how he's better off without them, how he can and will do better etc. Never been a good look for attracting new players has it?
I for one will be glad to see the back of him as judging by the amount of players that have left the club since last season ended it looks like he'd lost the dressing room, which if you read any of the incredible amount of interviews with the local media he does isn't surprising.
Wow....... you're going to look silly if he stays
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Lost the dressing room.????
How else do you explain why players are leaving en masse? Andy Butler is a Donny lad who lives local and even he couldn't be persuaded to stay! Despite what I said elsewhere it couldn't be entirely down to money or a longer contract as non of that can buy you the valuable time at home with your family that living really close to work can. Scunny is still an extra hour on his daily commute and there's a cost associated with that too which I'm not convinced would be covered by the extra amount Scunny woul've been able to afford to offer him over us. Makes you wonder or it does me anyway.
Did you read what Mandeville had to say about how GM treated him? The way he singled out Marquis and Whiteman without a thought for the impact his words would have on the rest of the squad and any any potential incoming players? In this weeks DFP there's blinder where GM is basically claiming to of turned Danny Andrew into the League 1 player he is today! That despite after just 4 games last season GM sitting down with Gavin Baldwin and telling him DA and Niall Mason needed replacing as they couldn't play the McCann way. FFS the bloke thinks he's the next coming, The Belfast Bielsa, the deluded crackpot!
I really want him to stay but I thought some of the stuff he's said about player salaries and moving people on or not bringing in if they arent 10,000% loyal to DRFC felt a bit naive. You need to make people feel like they're wanted. Hope he stays.
Thank f**k I'm not the only one!
The bloke can't keep his mouth shut, airing the clubs dirty laundry in public, embarrassing himself by talking to the press about 100% done deals which aren't signed and then players chooses to go somewhere else instead, bad mouthing departing players like a dumped bitter ex trying to persuade anyone that'll listen how he's better off without them, how he can and will do better etc. Never been a good look for attracting new players has it?
I for one will be glad to see the back of him as judging by the amount of players that have left the club since last season ended it looks like he'd lost the dressing room, which if you read any of the incredible amount of interviews with the local media he does isn't surprising.
Wow....... you're going to look silly if he stays
Why? The reality is he took a squad I and a lot of others felt were good enough to be up near the top of League One to up near to the top of League One, so when you look at it like that he did an alright job but when you read the endless interviews he gives to local media or to the club's website it's obvious at least to me that he has no idea how to deal with, talk to or about, treat and motivate people and that will catch up with him so if he stays we are heading for League Two with a disharmony within the squad that's not been seen since the McKay experiment.
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McCann would only be a hypocrite if he wanted away but stayed.
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McCann would only be a hypocrite if he wanted away but stayed.
Nah, he's a hypocrite for stating that he wants players who want to run through brick walls for him and this football club and then upping and leaving us three days later at the first chance he gets, leaving us with half a squad because of his own hard-line stance on having committed players.
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McCann would only be a hypocrite if he wanted away but stayed.
true
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Butler, Rowe didn’t want to leave but he questioned the amount of money they wanted.
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McCann would only be a hypocrite if he wanted away but stayed.
Nah, he's a hypocrite for stating that he wants players who want to run through brick walls for him and this football club and then upping and leaving us three days later at the first chance he gets, leaving us with half a squad because of his own hard-line stance on having committed players.
He wants people who want away to go. If he wants away and goes he'd be doing exactly what he wants others to, so not a hypocrite. He could be called lots of other things, but not that.
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Lost the dressing room.????
How else do you explain why players are leaving en masse? Andy Butler is a Donny lad who lives local and even he couldn't be persuaded to stay! Despite what I said elsewhere it couldn't be entirely down to money or a longer contract as non of that can buy you the valuable time at home with your family that living really close to work can. Scunny is still an extra hour on his daily commute and there's a cost associated with that too which I'm not convinced would be covered by the extra amount Scunny woul've been able to afford to offer him over us. Makes you wonder or it does me anyway.
Did you read what Mandeville had to say about how GM treated him? The way he singled out Marquis and Whiteman without a thought for the impact his words would have on the rest of the squad and any any potential incoming players? In this weeks DFP there's blinder where GM is basically claiming to of turned Danny Andrew into the League 1 player he is today! That despite after just 4 games last season GM sitting down with Gavin Baldwin and telling him DA and Niall Mason needed replacing as they couldn't play the McCann way. FFS the bloke thinks he's the next coming, The Belfast Bielsa, the deluded crackpot!
I really want him to stay but I thought some of the stuff he's said about player salaries and moving people on or not bringing in if they arent 10,000% loyal to DRFC felt a bit naive. You need to make people feel like they're wanted. Hope he stays.
Thank f**k I'm not the only one!
The bloke can't keep his mouth shut, airing the clubs dirty laundry in public, embarrassing himself by talking to the press about 100% done deals which aren't signed and then players chooses to go somewhere else instead, bad mouthing departing players like a dumped bitter ex trying to persuade anyone that'll listen how he's better off without them, how he can and will do better etc. Never been a good look for attracting new players has it?
I for one will be glad to see the back of him as judging by the amount of players that have left the club since last season ended it looks like he'd lost the dressing room, which if you read any of the incredible amount of interviews with the local media he does isn't surprising.
Wow....... you're going to look silly if he stays
Why? The reality is he took a squad I and a lot of others felt were good enough to be up near the top of League One to up near to the top of League One, so when you look at it like that he did an alright job but when you read the endless interviews he gives to local media or to the club's website it's obvious at least to me that he has no idea how to deal with, talk to or about, treat and motivate people and that will catch up with him so if he stays we are heading for League Two with a disharmony within the squad that's not been seen since the McKay experiment.
What a load of tosh.
If he couldn’t motivate we wouldnt have finished 6th
Get real please.
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But butler and Rowe didn’t want away, neither did Andrew if you listen to his side of the story
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Hypocrite or not, he has behaved without integrity.
This week he has supposedly been “working hard behind the scenes” to commit funds and bring players to the club. He has committed the club to signing two new players this week but he has very clearly been in talks with Hull prior to the announcement (as soon as the odds tumbled) negotiating what he sees as a more favourable deal with his agent. Swotting up for his interview at Hull. While we have been paying his wages and trusting him to act and behave in the best interests of our club. Actually I do think he has shown himself to be hypocritical, lacking commitment and most certainly lacking integrity.
Very very poor on his part, especially given the way in which he’s spoken about others. He has deceived the club that backed him, paid him, trusted him and gave him the chance to get his career going again.
He’s let us down, and leaves us in a poorer position than he found us, albeit after delivering a good season.
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Hypocrite or not, he has behaved without integrity.
This week he has supposedly been “working hard behind the scenes” to commit funds and bring players to the club. He has committed the club to signing two new players this week but he has very clearly been in talks with Hull prior to the announcement (as soon as the odds tumbled) negotiating what he sees as a more favourable deal with his agent. Swotting up for his interview at Hull. While we have been paying his wages and trusting him to act and behave in the best interests of our club. Actually I do think he has shown himself to be hypocritical, lacking commitment and most certainly lacking integrity.
Very very poor on his part, especially given the way in which he’s spoken about others. He has deceived the club that backed him, paid him, trusted him and gave him the chance to get his career going again.
He’s let us down, and leaves us in a poorer position than he found us, albeit after delivering a good season.
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Lost the dressing room.????
How else do you explain why players are leaving en masse? Andy Butler is a Donny lad who lives local and even he couldn't be persuaded to stay! Despite what I said elsewhere it couldn't be entirely down to money or a longer contract as non of that can buy you the valuable time at home with your family that living really close to work can. Scunny is still an extra hour on his daily commute and there's a cost associated with that too which I'm not convinced would be covered by the extra amount Scunny woul've been able to afford to offer him over us. Makes you wonder or it does me anyway.
Did you read what Mandeville had to say about how GM treated him? The way he singled out Marquis and Whiteman without a thought for the impact his words would have on the rest of the squad and any any potential incoming players? In this weeks DFP there's blinder where GM is basically claiming to of turned Danny Andrew into the League 1 player he is today! That despite after just 4 games last season GM sitting down with Gavin Baldwin and telling him DA and Niall Mason needed replacing as they couldn't play the McCann way. FFS the bloke thinks he's the next coming, The Belfast Bielsa, the deluded crackpot!
I really want him to stay but I thought some of the stuff he's said about player salaries and moving people on or not bringing in if they arent 10,000% loyal to DRFC felt a bit naive. You need to make people feel like they're wanted. Hope he stays.
Thank f**k I'm not the only one!
The bloke can't keep his mouth shut, airing the clubs dirty laundry in public, embarrassing himself by talking to the press about 100% done deals which aren't signed and then players chooses to go somewhere else instead, bad mouthing departing players like a dumped bitter ex trying to persuade anyone that'll listen how he's better off without them, how he can and will do better etc. Never been a good look for attracting new players has it?
I for one will be glad to see the back of him as judging by the amount of players that have left the club since last season ended it looks like he'd lost the dressing room, which if you read any of the incredible amount of interviews with the local media he does isn't surprising.
Wow....... you're going to look silly if he stays
Why? The reality is he took a squad I and a lot of others felt were good enough to be up near the top of League One to up near to the top of League One, so when you look at it like that he did an alright job but when you read the endless interviews he gives to local media or to the club's website it's obvious at least to me that he has no idea how to deal with, talk to or about, treat and motivate people and that will catch up with him so if he stays we are heading for League Two with a disharmony within the squad that's not been seen since the McKay experiment.
What a load of tosh.
If he couldn’t motivate we wouldnt have finished 6th
Get real please.
And you probably think Liverpool's turnaround in Istanbul was because of something Rafa Benitez said at half time then? Or that Ranieri who couldn't win anything, anywhere else in his lengthy career was the master motivator behind Leicester City's Premier League win then? Nigel Pearson had more to do with that LCFC title than Claudio! Why do you think the players were behind his sacking which they clearly were by the way. Because they disliked the amount credit and adulation he was getting and felt it was undeserved.