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Title: Transfer fee madness
Post by: NickDRFC on July 02, 2019, 05:51:56 pm
Not Rovers related but two big stand out stories for me over the past few days:

- Aston Villa have spent the best part of £20m on Southampton’s reserve left back, who spent last season out on loan. They’re reportedly also lining up a £25m bid for a Bristol City centre back.
- Man Utd have bid £70m for Harry Maguire, a decent centre half but nothing more. SEVENTY MILLION. And Leicester City have turned the offer down.

The game at that level has gone mad. Any transfer involving a) a Premier League club and b) an Englishman and you’re just looking at silly figures. Makes you wonder where the ceiling is going to be and when the bubble’s going to burst.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: dickos1 on July 02, 2019, 05:56:21 pm
I think the worst one is that palace right back going for 50 million
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: mushRTID on July 02, 2019, 06:22:19 pm
Danny Ings for 20m needs a mention.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on July 02, 2019, 07:14:58 pm
Is that what they paid for Targett!! thats crazy makes the 20m for Ings look great. The Palace right back is young and a good player so if he spends his career at Utd been 1st choice it won't look so bad.

The talk of Palace wanting 100m for Zaha has to be a joke as well
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: drfchound on July 02, 2019, 07:47:28 pm
Is that what they paid for Targett!! thats crazy makes the 20m for Ings look great. The Palace right back is young and a good player so if he spends his career at Utd been 1st choice it won't look so bad.

The talk of Palace wanting 100m for Zaha has to be a joke as well






As crazy as that sounds, they will probably get that £100m in today’s market.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 02, 2019, 07:58:26 pm
I think it's an indication of how much he is worth to Palace rather than what he is worth in general.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: drfchound on July 02, 2019, 08:13:38 pm
Agreed but if someone pays it then he will be worth that much to them too.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: RoversAlias on July 02, 2019, 08:24:08 pm
Yes the prices are insane, but the tv deal has made it so smaller clubs can't just be fleeced for their top players anymore. It's right that Leicester and Palace can demand game-changing fees from the big boys as a result.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: idler on July 02, 2019, 08:37:20 pm
I think it's an indication of how much he is worth to Palace rather than what he is worth in general.
It's also to cover the sell on fee to Man U if he goes.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 02, 2019, 08:44:11 pm
I think it's an indication of how much he is worth to Palace rather than what he is worth in general.
It's also to cover the sell on fee to Man U if he goes.

Wasn't there a sell-on fee when Man Utd bought him from Palace in the first place?
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: idler on July 02, 2019, 11:04:23 pm
According to one of the papers Palace wanted Man U to cancel a sell on clause in the deal that took Zaha back to them.
Man U didn't want to know apparently as they can see him leaving to a bigger club.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: RoversAlias on July 02, 2019, 11:34:20 pm
Palace wanted to cancel the Zaha sell-on clause in the recent Wan-Bissaka transfer, but indeed Man Utd refused knowing Palace can rightly demand upwards of £80mil for Zaha.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: Dare to dream! on July 02, 2019, 11:36:08 pm
Didn’t think the 50m for AWB was outrageous in today’s climate. AWB was class last season and still only 21. He will be worth a lot more in 2 years time.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on July 03, 2019, 12:31:11 am
Didn’t think the 50m for AWB was outrageous in today’s climate. AWB was class last season and still only 21. He will be worth a lot more in 2 years time.

Just sit down and clear your head. Then re-read that post and ponder on it.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: rich1471 on July 03, 2019, 08:28:13 am
I think it's an indication of how much he is worth to Palace rather than what he is worth in general.
It's also to cover the sell on fee to Man U if he goes.
palace only paid 6 million for him in 2015 , even a 25% sell on fee is covered easy it's just greed
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: mrfrostsdad on July 03, 2019, 08:30:15 am
Not Rovers related but two big stand out stories for me over the past few days:

- Aston Villa have spent the best part of £20m on Southampton’s reserve left back, who spent last season out on loan. They’re reportedly also lining up a £25m bid for a Bristol City centre back.
- Man Utd have bid £70m for Harry Maguire, a decent centre half but nothing more. SEVENTY MILLION. And Leicester City have turned the offer down.

The game at that level has gone mad. Any transfer involving a) a Premier League club and b) an Englishman and you’re just looking at silly figures. Makes you wonder where the ceiling is going to be and when the bubble’s going to burst.

The bubble will never burst while ever millions of people in the country, like me, are paying £74.50 a month to watch football on Sky, plus however much it is to watch football on BT.
£100 a month in total multiplied by about 10 million equals............ I don't know. I was always crap at maths
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on July 03, 2019, 09:36:48 am
There's only going to be more competition for viewing rights with Amazon, Facebook, Youtube, Netflix etc etc all looking for a slice of the rights. In the past there was only really Sky and recently BT and still the money was crazy
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: wing commander on July 03, 2019, 09:41:23 am
   Maybe but I listened to a discussion on this on the radio with a media expert on these things the other day.He is actually predicting a massive drop in tv rights the next time they are up for renewal..
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: arkseyrover on July 03, 2019, 08:48:49 pm
I'm knocked over by mrfrostsdad donating nearly a grand a year to the Premiership via Sky plus whatever it costs for the other channels! Astounding! What a rip off. And its not even donating to a good cause. Madness!
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: karldew on July 03, 2019, 08:50:01 pm
19 year old João Felix joins Atletico Madrid for €126m! 💰
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: Move DRFC on July 04, 2019, 12:47:19 pm
Didn’t think the 50m for AWB was outrageous in today’s climate. AWB was class last season and still only 21. He will be worth a lot more in 2 years time.

Just sit down and clear your head. Then re-read that post and ponder on it.

He's right though. In todays market £50m is about right for AWB, especially if Targett was £20m - which is insane. AWB was arguably the best RB in the prem last season, only 21 and English.

Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: southwestexile on July 04, 2019, 01:29:46 pm
Thing is that we only see these headline figures and rarely the breakdown relating to instalment - over time, appearances, international caps, sell-ons etc. One thing you could say is that this money has more chance of staying in the games and filtering down, certainly compared to agent fees and wages.

crazy cash for sure, but then you can pay over £4 for a loaf of bread these days
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: colfromdonny on July 04, 2019, 01:40:11 pm
What about Bournemouth, could get £40 million for Ake, I remember them being behind us a few years ago
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: SouthStandFan on July 04, 2019, 01:41:04 pm
   Maybe but I listened to a discussion on this on the radio with a media expert on these things the other day.He is actually predicting a massive drop in tv rights the next time they are up for renewal..

I heard an interesting radio segment a while back where they calculated that if the Premier League retracted all TV rights, and set up an in house Netflix style Premier League streaming service they could charge say a tenner a month and would get more money than they currently do. I know I'd probably pay it

I'd pay 20 if they threw in a DNA card

Joke!
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: nightporter on July 04, 2019, 04:48:21 pm
There's only going to be more competition for viewing rights with Amazon, Facebook, Youtube, Netflix etc etc all looking for a slice of the rights. In the past there was only really Sky and recently BT and still the money was crazy

ALL ten Premier League matches on Boxing Day this year will be screened live by Amazon.
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: adamtherover on July 04, 2019, 05:07:37 pm
Not Rovers related but two big stand out stories for me over the past few days:

- Aston Villa have spent the best part of £20m on Southampton’s reserve left back, who spent last season out on loan. They’re reportedly also lining up a £25m bid for a Bristol City centre back.
- Man Utd have bid £70m for Harry Maguire, a decent centre half but nothing more. SEVENTY MILLION. And Leicester City have turned the offer down.

The game at that level has gone mad. Any transfer involving a) a Premier League club and b) an Englishman and you’re just looking at silly figures. Makes you wonder where the ceiling is going to be and when the bubble’s going to burst.

The bubble will never burst while ever millions of people in the country, like me, are paying £74.50 a month to watch football on Sky, plus however much it is to watch football on BT.
£100 a month in total multiplied by about 10 million equals............ I don't know. I was always crap at maths
paying to watch sports on TV?  That's hilarious!!!  Have you not heard of a modern new fangled thing called the internet!!!!   
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: SouthStandFan on July 04, 2019, 06:06:42 pm
There's only going to be more competition for viewing rights with Amazon, Facebook, Youtube, Netflix etc etc all looking for a slice of the rights. In the past there was only really Sky and recently BT and still the money was crazy

ALL ten Premier League matches on Boxing Day this year will be screened live by Amazon.

And it's exactly this division of platforms that will lead more and more people to just stream them for nowt
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: Spud on July 04, 2019, 06:18:05 pm
Not Rovers related but two big stand out stories for me over the past few days:

- Aston Villa have spent the best part of £20m on Southampton’s reserve left back, who spent last season out on loan. They’re reportedly also lining up a £25m bid for a Bristol City centre back.
- Man Utd have bid £70m for Harry Maguire, a decent centre half but nothing more. SEVENTY MILLION. And Leicester City have turned the offer down.

The game at that level has gone mad. Any transfer involving a) a Premier League club and b) an Englishman and you’re just looking at silly figures. Makes you wonder where the ceiling is going to be and when the bubble’s going to burst.

The bubble will never burst while ever millions of people in the country, like me, are paying £74.50 a month to watch football on Sky, plus however much it is to watch football on BT.
£100 a month in total multiplied by about 10 million equals............ I don't know. I was always crap at maths

f**k that, you must be bonkers
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: Spud on July 04, 2019, 06:19:27 pm
Thing is that we only see these headline figures and rarely the breakdown relating to instalment - over time, appearances, international caps, sell-ons etc. One thing you could say is that this money has more chance of staying in the games and filtering down, certainly compared to agent fees and wages.

crazy cash for sure, but then you can pay over £4 for a loaf of bread these days

Remind me never to go shopping with you, I've got expensive taste but £4 for a loaf of bread?????
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: adamtherover on July 04, 2019, 08:32:15 pm
Not Rovers related but two big stand out stories for me over the past few days:

- Aston Villa have spent the best part of £20m on Southampton’s reserve left back, who spent last season out on loan. They’re reportedly also lining up a £25m bid for a Bristol City centre back.
- Man Utd have bid £70m for Harry Maguire, a decent centre half but nothing more. SEVENTY MILLION. And Leicester City have turned the offer down.

The game at that level has gone mad. Any transfer involving a) a Premier League club and b) an Englishman and you’re just looking at silly figures. Makes you wonder where the ceiling is going to be and when the bubble’s going to burst.

The bubble will never burst while ever millions of people in the country, like me, are paying £74.50 a month to watch football on Sky, plus however much it is to watch football on BT.
£100 a month in total multiplied by about 10 million equals............ I don't know. I was always crap at maths

f**k that, you must be bonkers
let's be fair, its. Not 75 quid to watch sports,  theres maybe a sky q box, multi room, 4k, hd, 3d. Every entertainment pack, probs sky broadband thrown in as well..     how can I throw an educated guess at this, ive just left sky after 20 years, got offered sod all.  Went back after 2 months, 8 quid for sky q for 18 months, they offered every sports package for 15 quid a month on top.!!     No one is actually paying mega sums just for sport!! Etc... they realise that with apps such as navixsport,  that offer seamless quality sports viewing for free. They have to be more competitive than they used to be..
Title: Re: Transfer fee madness
Post by: mrfrostsdad on July 05, 2019, 08:04:29 am
Sorry, I should have made myself a bit clearer. £74.50 a month for Sky tv is the full package. Sports, movies, arts, history and whatever the **** else you get with it. It's harder to break down BT Sports because that comes with super fast broadband, line rental etc etc.
The Sky package at that price sure doesn't include broadband (because it's crap) multi room, Sky Q or anything like that - they all cost extra.

Had Sky since it first came out (1990 I think when it was B Sky B) otherwise I'd spend even more money in the pub.
The point I was trying to make was, millions of households in the country pay for it, hence the crazy transfer fees, but it's a vicious circle