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Title: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: wilts rover on July 04, 2019, 10:01:02 pm
Warning - dangerous lefty rant on how corrupt and incompetent millionaire owners have ruined (some) clubs and the benefits of fan ownership/involvement in financial oversight

https://novaramedia.com/2019/07/04/football-is-a-game-for-the-many-its-time-to-give-it-back-to-them/
Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: SouthStandFan on July 04, 2019, 11:16:41 pm
Lunacy. So he is arguing for supporters clubs, funded by the Treasury to gain a 51 percent stake of their respective clubs.

For man city that is around 1.3 billion, in fact it's almost as high for chelsea, arsenal and spurs. For man Utd it's almost 2 billion.

So that's six major clubs into 51 percent ownership for the bargain price of just over 7 billion.

On South Yorkshire this tax year the govt is spending less than a quarter of a billion on policing.

The UK military budget is around 35 billion. God knows what that money could do for the NHS, education, elderly care, child services, tax cuts for the working class (raise the threshold for higher rate of tax AND the lower rate),

Absolute bonkers policy. I pray Labour never ever govern this country again. The left purport that the right wing doesnt care about the needy in society but would have us spend these vast sums to make ourselves have the supposed moral high ground over other countries' club ownership structure and to remove them from oligarchs and Arab shieks.

Not sure if you posted this in support of it or aghast at it but a simple numbers check shows this is would be absolute madness. 


Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: SouthStandFan on July 04, 2019, 11:20:57 pm
You could have around a six percent increase in the NHS budget using just the money required for those six clubs I listed.

Honestly if Labour ever control the Treasury again we are going to be f*cked for the next hundred years financially.
Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: Chris Black come back on July 04, 2019, 11:54:26 pm
The author of that article is a well-known halfwit. Whatever the content, seeing his name as the byline immediately disqualifies it as a serious contribution. If he had two brain cells he would be dangerous.
Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: idler on July 05, 2019, 07:38:37 am
He does have two brain cells.
They just never communicate.
Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: SydneyRover on July 05, 2019, 10:55:10 am
https://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Aaron_Bastani

Yep if only we had more conservatives to run the country properly, these past 8/9 years have been an economist's wet dream.
Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on July 05, 2019, 10:27:02 pm
I've become convinced that Bastani wakes every morning and thinks "What can I do to undermine Labour as a credible electoral force today?"

He even looks like a 21st century Derek Hatton.
Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: Chris Black come back on July 07, 2019, 12:40:38 pm
A former Lib Dem activist who ‘found’ socialism when Corbyn became the leader and will no doubt go wandering again when he leaves. Political equivalent of that bloke from Rosso who was in Free Press having covered his car in Rovers colours, then got bored and hasn’t been seen at match in years.
Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: The Beast on July 07, 2019, 12:52:53 pm
Mad idea but it makes me laugh when people say what x amount of money could do for the NHS, did anyone actually believe that bus when it said the savings on not paying money into the EU could be spent on the NHS, get a grip! any extra money from anywhere usually goes on funding tax cuts for the rich and multinationals. Anyway don’t want to go ‘off topic’ or talk politics but f##k me, open your eyes!
Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on July 07, 2019, 02:32:41 pm
Reduced by 32%, with free delivery from Amazon:

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Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: SouthStandFan on July 07, 2019, 04:45:37 pm
Mad idea but it makes me laugh when people say what x amount of money could do for the NHS, did anyone actually believe that bus when it said the savings on not paying money into the EU could be spent on the NHS, get a grip! any extra money from anywhere usually goes on funding tax cuts for the rich and multinationals. Anyway don’t want to go ‘off topic’ or talk politics but f##k me, open your eyes!

Two different issues. Money being squirreled away is one thing, blatantly wasting it on socialist mega-projects is another.

Tax cuts for the "rich" narrative is short sighted. According to the current tax rules I am a "high earner", I pay the higher tax rate, recieve zero assistance (including loss of child benefit)... But let me tell you I live a far from rich man's lifestyle.

Title: Re: Football is a Game for the Many - time to give it back
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 07, 2019, 11:56:22 pm
Mad idea but it makes me laugh when people say what x amount of money could do for the NHS, did anyone actually believe that bus when it said the savings on not paying money into the EU could be spent on the NHS, get a grip! any extra money from anywhere usually goes on funding tax cuts for the rich and multinationals. Anyway don’t want to go ‘off topic’ or talk politics but f##k me, open your eyes!

Project Fear!!