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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Donny Viking on July 05, 2019, 07:51:09 am
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Just gone clear favorite for the job - has something leaked out the camp?
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Ahhh f**k sake. What a nightmare.
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Still doesn’t really tell us anything substantial though.
If they aren’t even interviewing till Monday/Tuesday the best anybody would probably know is that he is shortlisted and is having an interview.
His name has been frequently spoken about on here, so it wouldn’t be a surprise if he has been but that is obviously still along way from being appointed and a lot will depend on how the candidates interview
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Interviews aren't till Monday so maybe it's just been confirmed to someone that he's got an interview and some people have gone in big?
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Just gone clear favorite for the job - has something leaked out the camp?
No, it's because somebody's dumped a load of money on him. That's why bookmaker's change their odds, to mimimise the chance of them losing money and maximise their chance of making money, not by how likely something actually is.
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Just gone clear favorite for the job - has something leaked out the camp?
No, it's because somebody's dumped a load of money on him. That's why bookmaker's change their odds, to mimimise the chance of them losing money and maximise their chance of making money, not by how likely something actually is.
Why’s some lumped money on him? Because they know something.
You're sort of right but not.
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In the head :thumbdown:
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Just gone clear favorite for the job - has something leaked out the camp?
No, it's because somebody's dumped a load of money on him. That's why bookmaker's change their odds, to mimimise the chance of them losing money and maximise their chance of making money, not by how likely something actually is.
Why’s some lumped money on him? Because they know something.
You're sort of right but not.
Really? And what could someone possibly know before any interviews that would make someone dump so much money on Flitcroft to make the odds on him 9/2 ON to get the job??
And if it's not because someone's dumped a load of money on him, what could the bookies possibly know either??
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Could be a reaction to Bolton’s misleading webpage the other day.?
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I would imagine he’s got an interview. The Bolton thing was too long ago to fuel this price change.
Flitcroft would be a bad appointment but he may be the best of a bad bunch. Maybe we’re kidding ourselves thinking Moore/Appleton are interested.
He would be a Dickov like appointment where the majority of fans don’t want him from the get go.
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I would imagine he’s got an interview. The Bolton thing was too long ago to fuel this price change.
Flitcroft would be a bad appointment but he may be the best of a bad bunch. Maybe we’re kidding ourselves thinking Moore/Appleton are interested.
He would be a Dickov like appointment where the majority of fans don’t want him from the get go.
Not if an idiot's read it, believed it...and dumped a load of money on him thinking it's a sure thing. Which would make the bookies change their odds without it making it one iota more likely that Flitcroft will get the job.
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Would make for an interesting poll
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The fact he’s gone odds on shows he’s definitely got an interview more that he’s definitely getting the job.
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Just gone clear favorite for the job - has something leaked out the camp?
No, it's because somebody's dumped a load of money on him. That's why bookmaker's change their odds, to mimimise the chance of them losing money and maximise their chance of making money, not by how likely something actually is.
That isn't the only reason odds change.
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No,
But what else can it be when the interviews haven’t even taken place?
A good bet now would be one of the others
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I would be very surprised if we appointed him, the board described the applicants as high calibre and exciting.
Not words you would use to describe him
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Dickov Part Deux.
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How the f**k is he on the short list? Never mind getting an interview!!
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There's nothing to say he's on the shortlist, or has an interview.
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It could just be the Bookies being clever trying to attract punters who see the odds and think it's a done deal. I would agree he must be on the list but definitely not anything more than that.
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fake news just making abook
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He talks a bit bluntly which doesn't make him sound like a footballing genius, but there's some things on his CV which aren't too shabby (Kept Barnsley up, Promotion with Bury, good finish with Swindon, then nearly got promotion with Mansfield). I'm not sure why people are dismissing him out of hand.
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He had a huge budget with Mansfield and failed to get promoted hence his sacking.
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How someone comes across in interviews doesn’t really bother me - SOD was hardly inspiring and McCann often said stuff that was contradictory or cringeworthy.
I think people are put off by how Flitcroft has just been sacked by a team in the league below but if you look at the bigger picture like Copps is Magic has, his track record isn’t bad. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him join us and wouldn’t be too disappointed either. The name that most people are championing is a guy with about 8 months experience of management who was sacked despite his team being in the playoffs, with few fans of that team being disappointed at his leaving. If the roles were reversed and Darren Moore’s name was David Flitcroft and he’d never played for us I’m sure we would be having an entirely different conversation.
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I’d be very disappointed
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If we get then we ultimately get Keith Hill and that’s not worth the risk !!
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How much experience did McCann have?
More I look at the runners and riders, Flitcroft wouldn’t even be on the shortlist!
Darren Moore for me and closely followed by Robinson, that’s if either are shortlisted.
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No idea how good or bad he is - but what is true is that his career as a manager has been going backwards. Started in the Championship with Dingles, then League One with Bury, then last two jobs in League Two.
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You can probably pick faults with every name on the list.
We have to trust the board to make the right selection for the club after they have gone through all the applicants and interviewed however many make the shortlist.
Don't think many were too impressed when McCann was appointed but we had a good season and the fans were behind him soon enough into the season.
Most managers will have been sacked at some point in their career after a bad run of results.
The last two appointments this board have done after John Ryan left haven't done too bad. (Ferguson may have had his critics but he left us a lot stronger than we were before he joined)
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anyone recall sod 1/10 for the Burnley job and Dickov 5/2 for the sheff wednesday give em a ring and ask what price he is NOT to get the job
I can predict his team every week 11 human beings every week :chair:
of course the bookies "crookies" read all these posts.
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Could be a reaction to Bolton’s misleading webpage the other day.?
Or God forbid,they knew something we did'nt! :silly:
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Hope not! That’s all, just hope they’re wrong!! :turd:
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1/3 now, only bet I'd have is the favorite will change between now and tuesday,
FFS they had Steve Evans odds on a week or so ago, I don't think one Rovers
supporter thought that would happen,after last season I trust the board to pick the
best man for the job. :scarf:
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Who’s choosing our next manager.??
Is it speculating bookies, or our board.???
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You can probably pick faults with every name on the list.
We have to trust the board to make the right selection for the club after they have gone through all the applicants and interviewed however many make the shortlist.
Don't think many were too impressed when McCann was appointed but we had a good season and the fans were behind him soon enough into the season.
Most managers will have been sacked at some point in their career after a bad run of results.
The last two appointments this board have done after John Ryan left haven't done too bad. (Ferguson may have had his critics but he left us a lot stronger than we were before he joined)
Spot on. If a player was perfect they would be playing at the top level, why, as a third tier club, do we expect to get a perfect, or near perfect, manager?
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He’s a Lancastrian which never goes down well - but if you disregard that his win ratio figures are fairly impressive - he won half his matches as Swindon manager. The problem is that the club has raised expectations amongst supporters that we’re going to get a manager of serious quality & no disrespect to Flitcroft it would be like putting a pin through our expectancy balloon if he gets the job
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Come on guys me and mates prstting around on social media 1 being his son got Billy Russell down to second favorite at one point
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Come on guys me and mates prstting around on social media 1 being his son got Billy Russell down to second favorite at one point
Surely you pissing about is just you lot wasting money?
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Appleton's climbed into the top 3 aswell now.
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Who’s choosing our next manager.??
Is it speculating bookies, or our board.???
Bump..
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Alan Stubbs appeared at 16/1 as well. Can't remember him being on the list before.
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Alan Stubbs appeared at 16/1 as well. Can't remember him being on the list before.
Nope hes a new name. Can't say i know too much about him.
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Looks like some are going into panic mode based on betting odds! 😂 Without even an interview being held!
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1/6 now
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Hope the odds are wrong, don't think Flitcroft would be the right option. With the budget he had at Mansfield he should have got them up easy.
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1/6 with Moore second favourite at 7/1 is a massive gap in the market. Wasn’t McCann similar when we thought the bookies knew nothing? Possibly something in this even if the interview process apparently isn’t until Monday/Tuesday
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Who’s choosing our next manager.??
Is it speculating bookies, or our board.???
Bump..
Bump again.!!
The only thing that might be known is the candidates selected for interview and not the final decision.!
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Really hope the bookies have got this one wrong.
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Ok folks, seriously, given that the interviews haven’t even taken place yet why on earth would these be the odds other than pure speculation.???
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Someone, or a few people, who know for sure Flitcroft has an interview and fancy him for the job maybe even based on some feedback he has. I can't imagine it's more than playing the odds before they shortened.
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If it does end up being DF it makes a mockery of the recruitment process.
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If it does end up being DF it makes a mockery of the recruitment process.
Why.? If he’s applied and the board are convinced he’s the best candidate.?
Not saying he is, but questioning your “mockery” statement..
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If it does end up being DF it makes a mockery of the recruitment process.
I agree he’s hardly a high calibre candidate is he
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Fatty Evans was odds on a few days back. I wouldn’t read to much into it at this stage
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He’s more than likely just the first name that’s been leaked of someone who has an interview... he has been rumoured to be 1 of the names on the 4 man shortlist for the past few days
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Bugger this, I’m sticking £600 on Flitcroft
;)
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With it being a small inclusive market if someone put £25 on Paul Mayfield being the next manager he would be 33/1 - 50/1 , try it
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If it does end up being DF it makes a mockery of the recruitment process.
I agree he’s hardly a high calibre candidate is he
Was McCann a high quality candidate when he got the job.
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He wasn’t, but the board have said this time we’ve had a number of high calibre and exciting applicants.
You can’t be saying things like that about flitcroft
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McCan was an unproven manger when he was appointed. Flitcroft has managed over 300 games.
Baldwin has started that a number of high quality candidates had applied this time. Idd say a large number of people would argue with good reason that Flitcroft is not in the high quality Category
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McCan was an unproven manger when he was appointed. Flitcroft has managed over 300 games.
Baldwin has started that a number of high quality candidates had applied this time. Idd say a large number of people would argue with good reason that Flitcroft is not in the high quality Category
Well, it might be that the so called high calibre candidates won’t interview well or may not share the same vision as the board.
Flitcroft might just do so.
For the record, I am not a fan of Flitcroft and would be keen on him coming to us either.
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McCan was an unproven manger when he was appointed. Flitcroft has managed over 300 games.
Baldwin has started that a number of high quality candidates had applied this time. Idd say a large number of people would argue with good reason that Flitcroft is not in the high quality Category
Well, it might be that the so called high calibration candidates won’t interview well or may not share the same vision as the board.
Flitcroft might just do so.
For the record, I am not a fan of Flitcroft and would be keen on him coming to us either.
Hopefully and I’m sure it will, that the board don’t solely base their decision on how each candidate interview... not everyone is good at interviews. I’m guessing that’s why Baldwin has been busy doing background checks all week.
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Last time out the betting was suspended with Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink massively odds on. Gary Caldwell moved into a similar position as did Stuart McCall before we appointed McCann.
I think it confirms that Flitcroft is in the running and nothing more yet.
He wouldn’t be my choice but his record really isn’t as bad as some make out. Im still hoping for Darren Moore, I think.
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If you had a chat with my Mansfield supporting friends, Jon, you may want to take a different view on Flitcroft.
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If you had a chat with my Mansfield supporting friends, Jon, you may want to take a different view on Flitcroft.
For better or for worse? Because he wouldn’t be my choice.
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.
"Apparently"
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A poll needed to see who actually wants this guy!!!
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For better or for worse? Because he wouldn’t be my choice.
For worse!
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.
Yes, he was very close.
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.
Yes, he was very close.
Let’s hope the board have learned not to be fooled by someone simply just interviewing well. We would be in league 2 now if caudwell got the job
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The difference is between the board doing the selection of the manager and ourselves, who tend to have preconceived ideas of who we would like, is they have to enter the interview with an open mind, and then decide who they think will be the best candidate for the job.
All the candidate's are football people, may have failed at other clubs, maybe through no fault of their own, but know the game, and are all used to being in the position of being there to be shot at by supporters like us.
To be successful at Doncaster Rovers they are going to have to work within certain parameters financially, but will be given time to put their ideas into practice, and in football will not work for better employers.
Both our last two managers have left themselves, and have not been sacked, Fergie giving the board every reason to do so at one point.
So they are coming to a good club, not the biggest, but well run and building slowly to a better future both on and off the field of play, no mean feet when taken into context with teams like Bolton, Birmingham etc.
My main hope is that the manager buys into what and who we are, does not come in guns blazing, and apart from a No 2 leaves the great back up staff to get on with their jobs, evolution not revolution, and concentrates on the playing side whoever he is.
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.
Yes, he was very close.
Let’s hope the board have learned not to be fooled by someone simply just interviewing well. We would be in league 2 now if caudwell got the job
To suggest that it's all about the interview would be grossly unfair on the board, and certainly on Gavin whose put a lot of effort into making sure the short list has the right candidates on it. The amount of background checks, due diligence and personal recommendation that has gone into the process cannot be underestimated.
I've mentioned this process before on other posts, it's very detailed and thorough.
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.
Yes, he was very close.
Let’s hope the board have learned not to be fooled by someone simply just interviewing well. We would be in league 2 now if caudwell got the job
To suggest that it's all about the interview would be grossly unfair on the board, and certainly on Gavin whose put a lot of effort into making sure the short list has the right candidates on it. The amount of background checks, due diligence and personal recommendation that has gone into the process cannot be underestimated.
I've mentioned this process before on other posts, it's very detailed and thorough.
If that’s the case, how on earth did Caudwell make the short list last time
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Because he met the required criteria set out, then at the interview stage the board of directors and others making the decision thought there was a better candidate.
Much to your relief no doubt.
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.
Yes, he was very close.
Let’s hope the board have learned not to be fooled by someone simply just interviewing well. We would be in league 2 now if caudwell got the job
To suggest that it's all about the interview would be grossly unfair on the board, and certainly on Gavin whose put a lot of effort into making sure the short list has the right candidates on it. The amount of background checks, due diligence and personal recommendation that has gone into the process cannot be underestimated.
I've mentioned this process before on other posts, it's very detailed and thorough.
If that’s the case, how on earth did Caudwell make the short list last time
Who is Caudwell?
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Minie?
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Appleton odds dropping nicely.
My guess the shortlist is:
Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane
Pretty solid.
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John Eustace popped up out of nowhere.
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Appleton odds dropping nicely.
My guess the shortlist is:
Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane
Pretty solid.
I’d be surprised if Keane is in for our job. But otherwise I agree it’s a pretty solid shortlist. Flitcroft is clearly the least favoured, but even then it’s not like his record is hopeless. It doesn’t look good that he was sacked by Mansfield, obviously, but essentially it was for delivering the equivalent of what McCann achieved here.
I’d much rather have Moore though. Or Appleton.
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John Eustace popped up out of nowhere.
Well respected coach I think.
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QPR assistant Manager. Former Manager Kiddie Harriers.
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Appleton odds dropping nicely.
My guess the shortlist is:
Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane
Pretty solid.
I’d be surprised if Keane is in for our job. But otherwise I agree it’s a pretty solid shortlist. Flitcroft is clearly the least favoured, but even then it’s not like his record is hopeless. It doesn’t look good that he was sacked by Mansfield, obviously, but essentially it was for delivering the equivalent of what McCann achieved here.
I’d much rather have Moore though. Or Appleton.
I said on another thread it’s a testament to the club.
I included Keane because someone told me he had applied a while ago through after getting suggested from Mcsheffrey. I dismissed it at first but then he has been in la manga with the squad this week which adds weight to that story.
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Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
:thumbdown: If it’s a red herring why call it a Caldwell and why throw it out was it off ?
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Appleton odds dropping nicely.
My guess the shortlist is:
Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane
Pretty solid.
I’d be surprised if Keane is in for our job. But otherwise I agree it’s a pretty solid shortlist. Flitcroft is clearly the least favoured, but even then it’s not like his record is hopeless. It doesn’t look good that he was sacked by Mansfield, obviously, but essentially it was for delivering the equivalent of what McCann achieved here.
I’d much rather have Moore though. Or Appleton.
I said on another thread it’s a testament to the club.
I included Keane because someone told me he had applied a while ago through after getting suggested from Mcsheffrey. I dismissed it at first but then he has been in la manga with the squad this week which adds weight to that story.
McSheffrey's a youth coach for the club. That'll explain why he's on La Manga.
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Appleton odds dropping nicely.
My guess the shortlist is:
Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane
Pretty solid.
I’d be surprised if Keane is in for our job. But otherwise I agree it’s a pretty solid shortlist. Flitcroft is clearly the least favoured, but even then it’s not like his record is hopeless. It doesn’t look good that he was sacked by Mansfield, obviously, but essentially it was for delivering the equivalent of what McCann achieved here.
I’d much rather have Moore though. Or Appleton.
I said on another thread it’s a testament to the club.
I included Keane because someone told me he had applied a while ago through after getting suggested from Mcsheffrey. I dismissed it at first but then he has been in la manga with the squad this week which adds weight to that story.
McSheffrey's a youth coach for the club. That'll explain why he's on La Manga.
He’s the under 18s coach but has stepped in to help John Schofield while we have no manger
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Appleton now 2nd fav ahead of Moore
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Appleton now 2nd fav ahead of Moore
I think all three will be interviewed Monday. Hard to read too much into the betting until after then.
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If you had a chat with my Mansfield supporting friends, Jon, you may want to take a different view on Flitcroft.
I have already stated that to them
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Flitcroft 5/6
Appleton 2/1
Moore 3/1
It’s Looking like 1 of those 3 will be the new gaffer
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Appleton now 2nd fav ahead of Moore
I think all three will be interviewed Monday. Hard to read too much into the betting until after then.
Agreed.
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Appleton odds dropping nicely.
My guess the shortlist is:
Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane
Pretty solid.
Can there even be a shortlist yet.
Interviews commence on Monday.
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Who says that’s the list .
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I'm praying for Appleton.
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Sounds like those three; moore, Flitcroft, Appleton and maybe one other will be getting an interview. Personally the attraction to hire Moore will be obvious given most of us fans seem to want him but imo Appleton may be the smarter choice. Did ok as a young manager and has gone away to coach at a good level for a while so will be fresh. He'll have decent contacts too from time managing at our level and coaching in the prem.
Flitcroft seems unpopular but he's used to managing at this level and at managing at the right end of the table. His time at mansfield and bury will go against him but people have bad spells.
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I'm praying for Appleton.
He would be a very good appointment.
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I'm praying for Appleton.
He would be a very good appointment.
Idd rather have Appelton too. Done a decent job at Oxford, been an assistant at a good level in the prem and his sides always played good football.
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I'm praying for Appleton.
He would be a very good appointment.
Idd rather have Appelton too. Done a decent job at Oxford, been an assistant at a good level in the prem and his sides always played good football.
Decent record with young players too, which Moore has yet no experience of.
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We've had Flitcroft as manager and he did a remarkable job keeping us in the championship when we were absolutely dead and buried at xmas 2012 .
A very impressive motivater who rinsed above their level performances out of a very poor group of players for 22 games .
That is where Flitcroft's skill lies , unfortunately for him as a good as a bloke he is it tends to have a smallish shelf life .
He couldn't get the players up the next season and we were awful , absolutely terrible and he had no answers tactically , we were eventually relegated .
Very limited guy , however if you are staring relegation in the face with 10 games to go you'd do alot worse than hire David .
A poor man's Sam Allardyce and most defiantly not someone you'd hire with a longish term vision .
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Seems three candidates are well clear in the betting now, and Flitcroft has drifted to Evens but is still favourite.
Flitcroft, Moore and Appleton all seem safe bets to be getting interviews. Perhaps the fourth candidate isn't even on the betting odds, and the only person I can find who has had even a tenuous link is Emma Hayes. Although I see she is now one of the many, many outsiders at 40/1 looking at it again.
Appleton's propensity for leaving for greener pastures worries me a bit, but he has a good record as a manager. Flitcroft doesn't appeal to me, and Moore does as I feel worries over his playing style can be worked on, plus he'd be a feel-good appointment at a time where there is a lot of apprehension in the fanbase.
Unless a surprise fourth candidate springs up in the next 3 days, I'd be backing Moore for the job personally.
Interestingly also, and I'm not sure anyone has mentioned this yet, Appleton and Moore appear to be friends. They were team mates at West Brom for two years and Appleton actually brought Moore in to his coaching staff when in charge of Blackburn. Be interesting if they are going against each other for this job!
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Just met a chap on the tube after a Wembley concert, a mate of Flitcroft, and he told me nothing of relevance. Either doesn’t know or is a good mate.
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I need it to be Appleton had 10 on him at 14/1
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Who is choosing our new manager, the bookies or our board.??
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Are these names bookies’ favourites as a result of reaction to social media etc rather than any real knowledge.?
The only one with an indication of being shortlisted is Moore, and even that isn’t much more than speculation in the DFP.
The bookies had Evans quite high up but he hasn’t applied, so that makes me doubt their sources.
Of course, due to the background of those men and their availability, they may by default be contenders but unless there have been leaks, surely this is all mostly conjecture.?
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I'm praying for Appleton.
He would be a very good appointment.
Idd rather have Appelton too. Done a decent job at Oxford, been an assistant at a good level in the prem and his sides always played good football.
Decent record with young players too, which Moore has yet no experience of.
Darren Moore actually started out as youth coach at West Brom and then worked with the Under 21s before taking on a role to improve young players technically and tactically.
So I think he does have some experience with young players.
The trouble with Appleton, as someone else said, he doesn't stick around long if he gets the chance to move higher up.
He was only at Blackpool for 12 games - of which he only won two - before he resigned to move to Blackburn.
Then he got the sack there for poor results.
Okay, he did do well at Oxford and got them promoted but as soon as he got chance to be an assistant at Leicester he was off again.
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Are these names bookies’ favourites as a result of reaction to social media etc rather than any real knowledge.?
The only one with an indication of being shortlisted is Moore, and even that isn’t much more than speculation in the DFP.
The bookies had Evans quite high up but he hasn’t applied, so that makes me doubt their sources.
Of course, due to the background of those men and their availability, they may by default be contenders but unless there have been leaks, surely this is all mostly conjecture.?
It’s not a coincidence that the deadline for formulating the shortlist passes and three names get well bet with the bookies. To many people know the names on the interview list for there not to be gambles.
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It shows how volatile the market is that Flitcroft was as short as 1/6 in the last day or so, and he’s back to odds against again now. I think after close of business hours tomorrow the big shifts in the odds will start to feel more meaningful.
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[quote author totally agreeIDMor=IDM link=topic=272976.msg877962#msg877962 date=1562489071]
Who is choosing our new manager, the bookies or our board.??
[/quote]I totally agree IDM let the board do there jobs
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Dave Flitcroft shortening again is really worrying.
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Why.?
The interviews haven’t taken place yet.??
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Why.?
The interviews haven’t taken place yet.??
99.99% of donny fans don’t want him so who is betting on him? Someone who knows something. Interviews could just be a formality.
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Why.?
The interviews haven’t taken place yet.??
99.99% of donny fans don’t want him so who is betting on him? Someone who knows something. Interviews could just be a formality.
Flitcroft gone from 6/5 to 4/7. Appleton drifted from 2/1 to 5/1...
Slightly worrying
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Why.?
The interviews haven’t taken place yet.??
99.99% of donny fans don’t want him so who is betting on him? Someone who knows something. Interviews could just be a formality.
Someone who thinks they know something more like. Bookies work on the basis of expecting 18-22% of the total money bet on something to be winning bets. That means they expect 78-82% of the total money bet to be losing bets. That's the basis on which they alter their odds when new money is bet with them. Shouldn't that tell you something?
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Think if it's all down to the interviews then flitcroft will walk it he seams more up beat when been interviewed on tv although he talks b*llocks
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We know through previous reports that the interviewees need to be well prepared. Just turning up for a chat is not good enough. As S_M and Gavin alluded to, each candidates track records/achievements will be scrutinised and challenged where necessary. I'm sure they will need a clear plan of how they intend to move the club forward which again will be subject to scrutiny.
This is why the bookies odds are a nonsense as nobody can forsee what the outcome of the interviews will be.
I can't see anything getting out into the public arena until after a formal offer is made.
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Flitcroft 5/6
Appleton 2/1
Moore 3/1
It’s Looking like 1 of those 3 will be the new gaffer
There are five so who and where are they in the betting .
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Flitcroft 5/6
Appleton 2/1
Moore 3/1
It’s Looking like 1 of those 3 will be the new gaffer
There are five so who and where are they in the betting .
Who are the other two then?
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Flitcroft 5/6
Appleton 2/1
Moore 3/1
It’s Looking like 1 of those 3 will be the new gaffer
There are five so who and where are they in the betting .
Who are the other two then?
According to sky sports, one is Antony Hudson
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ok let's see if we can move the odds
Mr Flitcroft
Q.1 can you explain how your team lost the last 3 matches of the season and didn't even win any of the last 5 including the play offs
Q2 how with a mega budget you finished below Bury who are buried in debt.
Q3 Can you handle local Derbies losing 1-0 at notts County away
Q4 You had the best defence in the league conceeding 41 goal in 46 games (Lincoln conceeded 43) would you please comment on your style of play
Q.5 Pre-season I must admit you beat more than one team from divisions above and things looked extremely promising what went wrong?
<<<<<<<< :coat:
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6/4 flitcroft due to the pole
5/2 moore
11/4 apple
8/1 hudson now
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7/4 Flitcroft - Skybet
3/1 Moore - Paddypower
9/2 Appleton - Paddypower
10/1 Hudson - Betvictor
Of others I’ve seen rumoured to be the 5th candidate;
N/A Mick Harford
16/1 Stephen Robinson - Betvictor
40/1 Keith Hill - Paddypower
50/1 Michael Flynn - Paddypower
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7/4 Flitcroft - Skybet
3/1 Moore - Paddypower
9/2 Appleton - Paddypower
10/1 Hudson - Betvictor
Of others I’ve seen rumoured to be the 5th candidate;
N/A Mick Harford
16/1 Stephen Robinson - Betvictor
40/1 Keith Hill - Paddypower
50/1 Michael Flynn - Paddypower
Yorkshire Post stating Robinson is the 5th
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sky odds
2/1 flit
9/4 moore
3/1 apple
6/1 hudson
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According to @VikingWay:
Darren Moore is the new favourite for the Rovers job. 7/4 with Sky Bet, Flitcroft 9/4 2nd fav, Appleton 3/1, Hudson 6/1. Not much in the odds. #drfc
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Darren Moore's odds keep shortening. He's now 11/8. Flitcroft is almost out to 3's.
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More money on Moore than on Flitcroft
COYR
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I am starting to get hopeful that it’s Moore. This is the most telling time for a favourite to emerge and the price to be shortening.
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Surely the odds are changing now due to the bets being made, rather than any leaks from the interviews.?
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I'll be keeping an eye on the odds this evening. People around the club will be starting to find out who has the job and messages will get around at tonight's game.
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If it is known that the club has made an appointment but without going public, will betting be stopped.?
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It's going mad on twitter for Darren Moore.
Expectation is building.
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7/4 Flitcroft - Skybet
3/1 Moore - Paddypower
9/2 Appleton - Paddypower
10/1 Hudson - Betvictor
Of others I’ve seen rumoured to be the 5th candidate;
N/A Mick Harford
16/1 Stephen Robinson - Betvictor
40/1 Keith Hill - Paddypower
50/1 Michael Flynn - Paddypower
Yorkshire Post stating Robinson is the 5th
Interesting that, Free Press said Robinson wasn't.
Just want this speculation to be done with now so we can get on with sorting the squad out.
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This is like McCall getting close before the announcement.
Twitter is looking very cringe worthy at the moment, especially if it isn't Moore.
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Surely the odds are changing now due to the bets being made, rather than any leaks from the interviews.?
Absolutely. But if there was ever to be a point that the betting patterns could start to become significant then surely it’s now, when we expect a decision to have been made.
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Looking like Moore then.
Think we’re missing a trick not going for a manager of Appleton’s quality.
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Looking like Moore then.
Think we’re missing a trick not going for a manager of Appleton’s quality.
I'd be disappointed with Moore. Hope he proves me wrong though.
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Latest skybet odds, who have it as a three horse race:
Darren Moore 11/8
David Flitcroft 11/4
Michael Appleton 10/3
Anthony Hudson 6/1
Billy Russell 11/1
Stephen Robinson 14/1
Roy Keane 18/1
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
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EVENS NOW
7/2 FLIT
9/2 APPLE
6/I HUDDIE
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
Don’t think we've had any former premier league mangers either
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
Don’t think we've had any former premier league mangers either
No but we’ve had a World Cup finalist
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
He wasn't the manager at Hull though IDM; he was a player-coach.
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
Don’t think we've had any former premier league managers either
NAH one DRFC manager had managed a team in a World Cup Final against Brazil in 1958 when most of you weren't thought of though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Raynor
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
Don’t think we've had any former premier league mangers either
No but we’ve had a World Cup finalist
Genuine question Filo; who was that?
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Scrap my last post Filo; Coleman's answered it. I don't know how I forgot Raynor.
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
He wasn't the manager at Hull though IDM; he was a player-coach.
Second time around..
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
Don’t think we've had any former premier league mangers either
No but we’ve had a World Cup finalist
Genuine question Filo; who was that?
George Raynor managed Sweden
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sorry filo you beat me to it !! :crying: :crying: :crying:
lasted 7 months
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Sub evens for Moore now
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8/11
7/2 apple
8/1 hudd
8/1 flit (it's all gone pear shaped for him - i did copyright my earlier questions to him on here by the way)
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Cannot remember last time we got a manager immediately after being at a materially larger club. Moore would be a coup in that respect.
Billy Bremner.?
He wasn't the manager at Hull though IDM; he was a player-coach.
Second time around..
You got me there IDM. That might catch a few out in a pub quiz.
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Massive drift for Flitcroft, maybe a sign hes out I would say, if you doubt that lump on.
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Happy days, looking solid that Moore is to be announced. Just glad that it’s not going to be flitcroft with him drifting out
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And if you think its moore, still a few quid to make on him with some bookies.
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Here’s hoping it’s Moore, got 9-2 ! But more importantly I think he’ll do a great job !
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8/13
10/1 flitgrove flitcroft
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Moore 5/2 @Bet Victor
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They’re still guessing I feel. I wish I had more confidence in them as I’m a big Moore advocate but after winning big in backing brexit and trump I know they sometimes get it massively wrong! :evil:
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They’re still guessing I feel. I wish I had more confidence in them as I’m a big Moore advocate but after winning big in backing brexit and trump I know they sometimes get it massively wrong! :evil:
I would be very alarmed if Russia was trying to influence the choice of our next manager ;) :lol:
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They’re still guessing I feel. I wish I had more confidence in them as I’m a big Moore advocate but after winning big in backing brexit and trump I know they sometimes get it massively wrong! :evil:
I would be very alarmed if Russia was trying to influence the choice of our next manager ;) :lol:
You reds.
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Moore 5/2 @Bet Victor
Odds on now
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Moore 4/9 now with Appleton next at 4/1 on sky bet
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The fact it looks like it’s between Moore and Appleton is very good news.
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This is all good fun but probably no more than that. No basis in fact whatsoever.
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This is all good fun but probably no more than that. No basis in fact whatsoever.
Hard to tell. All along I’ve felt that movements in the betting tonight could be more significant, as it’s at a stage when decisions are being made and people get wind of that.
Moore gone out again ever so slightly to 1/2 though.
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Unless there had been a specific leak, how will people get wind of anything.?
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Could the announcement be delayed because the manager is currently at another club? (Robinson)
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Could the announcement be delayed because the manager is currently at another club? (Robinson)
Highly doubt it’s Robinson
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They’re still guessing I feel. I wish I had more confidence in them as I’m a big Moore advocate but after winning big in backing brexit and trump I know they sometimes get it massively wrong! :evil:
I would be very alarmed if Russia was trying to influence the choice of our next manager ;) :lol:
Yes but how much would you put in Dutch?😉
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Unless there had been a specific leak, how will people get wind of anything.?
Acquaintances of manager / agent etc. following talks. Easily done I’d expect. I could be wrong obviously. We’ll see.
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hudson has just gone 5/1 on sky which is worrying
apple 6/1
flit 12/1
moore 1/2
had a false alarm they want to call stephen robinson karl robinson on the betting websites just to confuse us
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hudson has just gone 5/1 on sky which is worrying
apple 6/1
flit 12/1
moore 1/2
I’m sure I saw SM on a different thread indirectly rule Hudson out.
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Job offered. Potential announcement tomorrow. Press conference Friday. Hoden.
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Sounds like John Eustace was the final candidate.
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We all know it's going to be Flitcroft
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Do we.?
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Sounds like John Eustace was the final candidate.
sky were the only ones to quote him 22/1 today and now -- if eustace was one --- then sky are the ones most in the know
moore is 1/2 there are 4/6 elsewhere (allegedly)
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They’re still guessing I feel. I wish I had more confidence in them as I’m a big Moore advocate but after winning big in backing brexit and trump I know they sometimes get it massively wrong! :evil:
I would be very alarmed if Russia was trying to influence the choice of our next manager ;) :lol:
Yes but how much would you put in Dutch?😉
I didn’t McCall the last one right, so to prevent getting the Monk on I won’t Flit down the bookies and bet any Moore :blush:
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I didn’t McCall the last one right, so to prevent getting the Monk on I won’t Flit down the bookies and bet any Moore :blush:
Though if you change your mind, tis a bit chilly tonight so you'd be best taking the coat with the Hudson.
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Actually just before posting I deleted the last bit ...... ‘but I won’t be Baying for Hudson’ :)
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Flitcroft and Hudson shortened
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Flitcroft and Hudson shortened
To what, Flit and Huds.?