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Title: £2 million
Post by: Copps is Magic on July 31, 2019, 04:04:04 pm
Lets round it up to £2million for the Marquis transfer. How should we spend it?

Cover the annual shortfall.
Bring in 3/4 decent players, no transfer fee, just wages.
Large (for us) transfer fee for another strike.
Other?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 04:07:02 pm
Given that GB said a week or so ago that funds were available for the manager to bring in players, the assumption is we already have a decent playing budget.

Therefore IMHO some of this money could be used  to sign a decent direct replacement, if that is what is needed to prise a decent player from his current club.?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: ChrisBx on July 31, 2019, 04:13:58 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: silent majority on July 31, 2019, 04:14:37 pm
The money will be going into the playing budget. It's additional to what was already there.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: goalkick on July 31, 2019, 04:14:45 pm
Thought we were already getting new players.has been said many times.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 04:16:06 pm
The money will be going into the playing budget. It's additional to what was already there.


Is this confirmation that the deal is almost done?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 04:16:48 pm
Thought we were already getting new players.has been said many times.

Yes and now we can get even more, assuming this sale happens..
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Nudga on July 31, 2019, 04:21:06 pm
Could get 6 up and coming players in at 250k and still have money to spare for the January transfer window.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Copps is Magic on July 31, 2019, 04:23:45 pm
Could get 6 up and coming players in at 250k and still have money to spare for the January transfer window.

250k a year yeah, but you'd want some longer than that.

Personally I'd go the dingles model. 3/4 young, talented players on longer contracts. They won't all pay off but one might.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on July 31, 2019, 04:24:45 pm
It opens up a whole new set of possibilities. More than we can even get our heads around.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: jamesrover17 on July 31, 2019, 04:26:24 pm
I dont think we are going to get anywhere near a 25+ goal striker this close to the start of the season but 5 players who score 5 goals a season?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Campsall rover on July 31, 2019, 04:27:19 pm
Well I am happy to leave it to DM to bring in who HE thinks is a good fit for DRFC.
He will have several targets on his radar. That there is no doubt.
I just can’t believe all the panic that goes on just because the season starts in 4 days.  :facepalm:
It is a 46 game season and if all the jigsaw is not in place by Saturday then so be it.
It certainly will be by 31st August.  :woohoo:
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 04:28:07 pm
I dont think we are going to get anywhere near a 25+ goal striker this close to the start of the season but 5 players who score 5 goals a season?

Marquis hadn’t scored at that rate before we signed him..
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: no eyed deer on July 31, 2019, 04:28:34 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 04:29:25 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.

Have you been drinking.?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: drfchound on July 31, 2019, 04:29:56 pm
Well I am happy to leave it to DM to bring in who HE thinks is a good fit for DRFC.
He will have several targets on his radar. That there is no doubt.
I just can’t believe all the panic that goes on just because the season starts in 4 days.  :facepalm:
It is a 46 game season and if all the jigsaw is not in place by Saturday then so be it.
It certainly will be by 31st August.  :woohoo:







There are six games to play before the end of August.
My head is out of the sand mate and I don’t want us to be playing catch up.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 04:30:08 pm
I dont think we are going to get anywhere near a 25+ goal striker this close to the start of the season but 5 players who score 5 goals a season?

Marquis hadn’t scored at that rate before we signed him..

Very true and to be honest he should have been a 30+ a season striker given the amount of easy chances he missed and that he can’t take a penalty.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: RedJ on July 31, 2019, 04:30:52 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.

I see words and punctuation but I see no sentences?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: the vicar on July 31, 2019, 04:33:26 pm
They did also sat that if JM went then the money would be spent on players as in a replacement
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: the vicar on July 31, 2019, 04:35:12 pm
I dont think we are going to get anywhere near a 25+ goal striker this close to the start of the season but 5 players who score 5 goals a season?

Marquis hadn’t scored at that rate before we signed him..

Very true and to be honest he should have been a 30+ a season striker given the amount of easy chances he missed and that he can’t take a penalty.
in truth if he got them he missed he would be in the Premier league
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: no eyed deer on July 31, 2019, 04:35:59 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.

Have you been drinking.?

No fishing !!
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: GazLaz on July 31, 2019, 04:36:25 pm
I like John and wish he would stay but this could look the worst £2m ever spent come the end of the season.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Nudga on July 31, 2019, 04:36:42 pm
Could get 6 up and coming players in at 250k and still have money to spare for the January transfer window.

250k a year yeah, but you'd want some longer than that.

Personally I'd go the dingles model. 3/4 young, talented players on longer contracts. They won't all pay off but one might.

I didn't say anything about length of contract. Just a round transfer fee figure
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: jamesrover17 on July 31, 2019, 04:36:59 pm
I dont think we are going to get anywhere near a 25+ goal striker this close to the start of the season but 5 players who score 5 goals a season?

Marquis hadn’t scored at that rate before we signed him..

Exactly that, I am just worried the fanbase will go into meltdown if we don't sign a Kieffer Moore/Lyle Taylor type player that bangs goals in for fun just because we are getting a decent fee
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: no eyed deer on July 31, 2019, 04:37:24 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.

I see words and punctuation but I see no sentences?

And caught two
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Copps is Magic on July 31, 2019, 04:38:45 pm
Could get 6 up and coming players in at 250k and still have money to spare for the January transfer window.

250k a year yeah, but you'd want some longer than that.

Personally I'd go the dingles model. 3/4 young, talented players on longer contracts. They won't all pay off but one might.

I didn't say anything about length of contract. Just a round transfer fee figure

Ok, misunderstood.

I will say though, when you get down to those sort of figures wages are far more important (relatively speaking) than a transfer fee. 250k is neither here or there.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: RedJ on July 31, 2019, 04:40:40 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.

I see words and punctuation but I see no sentences?

And caught two

Ah so typing incoherently is seen as fishing these days?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 04:43:30 pm
Well I am happy to leave it to DM to bring in who HE thinks is a good fit for DRFC.
He will have several targets on his radar. That there is no doubt.
I just can’t believe all the panic that goes on just because the season starts in 4 days.  :facepalm:
It is a 46 game season and if all the jigsaw is not in place by Saturday then so be it.
It certainly will be by 31st August.  :woohoo:







There are six games to play before the end of August.
My head is out of the sand mate and I don’t want us to be playing catch up.


None of us do nor does DM or the rest of the club but it appears it’s easier to believe we had to sell JM to fund any transfers and that the club doesn’t have any budget and nothing is happening behind the scenes and the club should have sold JM to a non existent Championship Club much sooner.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 04:45:53 pm
I like John and wish he would stay but this could look the worst £2m ever spent come the end of the season.
I dont think we are going to get anywhere near a 25+ goal striker this close to the start of the season but 5 players who score 5 goals a season?

Marquis hadn’t scored at that rate before we signed him..

Very true and to be honest he should have been a 30+ a season striker given the amount of easy chances he missed and that he can’t take a penalty.
in truth if he got them he missed he would be in the Premier league
Probably Vicar but the point is the team created those chances more the JM did on his own so there is every chance a new striker could achieve the same amount of goal return.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: no eyed deer on July 31, 2019, 04:46:57 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.

I see words and punctuation but I see no sentences?

And caught two

Ah so typing incoherently is seen as fishing these days?

Not sure what you mean?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: RedJ on July 31, 2019, 04:48:15 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.

I see words and punctuation but I see no sentences?

And caught two

Ah so typing incoherently is seen as fishing these days?

Not sure what you mean?

Aye. neither was I.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Jonathan on July 31, 2019, 04:48:32 pm
I just hope we get some good news on incomings very soon. We really do need it.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Al4475 on July 31, 2019, 04:49:06 pm
Has it been confirmed he's gone yet?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 04:50:08 pm
SM has already confirmed on here that this season's budget is bigger than last year's. Given the net reduction in playing staff, including the sale of Marquis, you would assume that we will have a decent amount to play with before the window closes.

If it SM then, Last year budget. This year BUDGET.

I see words and punctuation but I see no sentences?

And caught two

Ah so typing incoherently is seen as fishing these days?

Not sure what you mean?

He means you’re being a pillock and distracting from the point of the thread..
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: drfchound on July 31, 2019, 04:52:05 pm
Well I am happy to leave it to DM to bring in who HE thinks is a good fit for DRFC.
He will have several targets on his radar. That there is no doubt.
I just can’t believe all the panic that goes on just because the season starts in 4 days.  :facepalm:
It is a 46 game season and if all the jigsaw is not in place by Saturday then so be it.
It certainly will be by 31st August.  :woohoo:







There are six games to play before the end of August.
My head is out of the sand mate and I don’t want us to be playing catch up.


None of us do nor does DM or the rest of the club but it appears it’s easier to believe we had to sell JM to fund any transfers and that the club doesn’t have any budget and nothing is happening behind the scenes and the club should have sold JM to a non existent Championship Club much sooner.





DVR, I am not one of the people who believes the stuff you have listed above.
However it can’t be argued that right now our first team squad is anything but depleted and that supporters have a right to be concerned about that.
There is no need for you to be condescending.
Of course there might be announcements made this week that players have been signed to bolster the squad for Saturday, but then again, there might not be.
Even with the money for JM in the bank and waiting to be spent there are no guarantees that players targeted by DM can be secured.
I will be more comfortable with our situation when I see some decent signings rather than suggestions of what is possibly going to happen.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on July 31, 2019, 04:52:56 pm
Has it been confirmed he's gone yet?

No. Rumoured to be tomorrow, if it happens.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Campsall rover on July 31, 2019, 04:54:10 pm
Well I am happy to leave it to DM to bring in who HE thinks is a good fit for DRFC.
He will have several targets on his radar. That there is no doubt.
I just can’t believe all the panic that goes on just because the season starts in 4 days.  :facepalm:
It is a 46 game season and if all the jigsaw is not in place by Saturday then so be it.
It certainly will be by 31st August.  :woohoo:






There are six games to play before the end of August.
My head is out of the sand mate and I don’t want us to be playing catch up.
Neither do i hound. But I did say “all the jigsaw”
I would expect a minimum of 50% of the missing parts to be in place by Saturday
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: the vicar on July 31, 2019, 04:54:40 pm
I like John and wish he would stay but this could look the worst £2m ever spent come the end of the season.
I dont think we are going to get anywhere near a 25+ goal striker this close to the start of the season but 5 players who score 5 goals a season?

Marquis hadn’t scored at that rate before we signed him..

Very true and to be honest he should have been a 30+ a season striker given the amount of easy chances he missed and that he can’t take a penalty.
in truth if he got them he missed he would be in the Premier league
Probably Vicar but the point is the team created those chances more the JM did on his own so there is every chance a new striker could achieve the same amount of goal return.
I agree with that in part,  but it's not just the goals but the work rate he put in
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: drfchound on July 31, 2019, 04:55:26 pm
Well I am happy to leave it to DM to bring in who HE thinks is a good fit for DRFC.
He will have several targets on his radar. That there is no doubt.
I just can’t believe all the panic that goes on just because the season starts in 4 days.  :facepalm:
It is a 46 game season and if all the jigsaw is not in place by Saturday then so be it.
It certainly will be by 31st August.  :woohoo:






There are six games to play before the end of August.
My head is out of the sand mate and I don’t want us to be playing catch up.
Neither do i hound. But I did say “all the jigsaw”
I would expect a minimum of 50% of the missing parts to be in place by Saturday






......and I will be more comfortable if that happens.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 05:04:41 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 05:13:16 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Bezza on July 31, 2019, 05:15:00 pm
I like John and wish he would stay but this could look the worst £2m ever spent come the end of the season.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 05:15:48 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

No it doesn’t.. saying something in public whilst knowing things may change isn’t bull shit..
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: mushRTID on July 31, 2019, 05:16:35 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

What did you want him to say?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: pib on July 31, 2019, 05:26:31 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

Why do you always look for conspiracies where there are clearly none.

Circumstances change. Monday was two days ago and it sounds like a firm offer has only come in for JM today.

I’m as concerned as anyone about our current situation but looking to call people out constantly for statements they made in good faith at the time is childish.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 05:28:08 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

Why do you always look for conspiracies where there are clearly none.

Circumstances change. Monday was two days ago and it sounds like a firm offer has only come in for JM today.

I’m as concerned as anyone about our current situation but looking to call people out constantly for statements they made in good faith at the time is childish.

Excuse me, me look for conspiricies? I think you’ve got the wrong person
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: pib on July 31, 2019, 05:34:10 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

Why do you always look for conspiracies where there are clearly none.

Circumstances change. Monday was two days ago and it sounds like a firm offer has only come in for JM today.

I’m as concerned as anyone about our current situation but looking to call people out constantly for statements they made in good faith at the time is childish.

Excuse me, me look for conspiricies? I think you’ve got the wrong person

You did the same with McCann, saying the club were hiding something or covering it up.

Circumstances change quickly in football, and what’s true on Monday might not be true on Wednesday (or even Tuesday). It doesn’t mean anyone is spreading lies or bullshit.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 05:34:17 pm
He’s not even left yet and people are criticising him.
As a side we’ve always created chances but we’ve never had a striker who’s scored the amount of goals he has.

All strikers miss chances it’s ridiculous to suggest they don’t
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 05:39:15 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

Why do you always look for conspiracies where there are clearly none.

Circumstances change. Monday was two days ago and it sounds like a firm offer has only come in for JM today.

I’m as concerned as anyone about our current situation but looking to call people out constantly for statements they made in good faith at the time is childish.

Excuse me, me look for conspiricies? I think you’ve got the wrong person

You did the same with McCann, saying the club were hiding something or covering it up.

Circumstances change quickly in football, and what’s true on Monday might not be true on Wednesday (or even Tuesday). It doesn’t mean anyone is spreading lies or bullshit.

There are similarity’s in both situations though, news from the club went into lockdown, nothing from the club or the Free Press guys until something was imminent, it doesn’t take a genius to work out on both occasions  things were already moving before they became public knowledge
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: pib on July 31, 2019, 05:43:04 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

Why do you always look for conspiracies where there are clearly none.

Circumstances change. Monday was two days ago and it sounds like a firm offer has only come in for JM today.

I’m as concerned as anyone about our current situation but looking to call people out constantly for statements they made in good faith at the time is childish.

Excuse me, me look for conspiricies? I think you’ve got the wrong person

You did the same with McCann, saying the club were hiding something or covering it up.

Circumstances change quickly in football, and what’s true on Monday might not be true on Wednesday (or even Tuesday). It doesn’t mean anyone is spreading lies or bullshit.

There are similarity’s in both situations though, news from the club went into lockdown, nothing from the club or the Free Press guys until something was imminent, it doesn’t take a genius to work out on both occasions  things were already moving before they became public knowledge

As I asked when we were discussing the GM situation - Why would the club comment on speculation?

There was loads from the Free Press guys on the McCann thing and the JM situation is being reported and updated as things progress.

I just don’t believe that indicates in any way that representatives of our club are lying or “bullshitting” in public statements they make. If you want to believe otherwise then that’s your choice and I’ll leave you to it.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 05:46:17 pm
Well I am happy to leave it to DM to bring in who HE thinks is a good fit for DRFC.
He will have several targets on his radar. That there is no doubt.
I just can’t believe all the panic that goes on just because the season starts in 4 days.  :facepalm:
It is a 46 game season and if all the jigsaw is not in place by Saturday then so be it.
It certainly will be by 31st August.  :woohoo:

I wasn’t being condescending





There are six games to play before the end of August.
My head is out of the sand mate and I don’t want us to be playing catch up.


None of us do nor does DM or the rest of the club but it appears it’s easier to believe we had to sell JM to fund any transfers and that the club doesn’t have any budget and nothing is happening behind the scenes and the club should have sold JM to a non existent Championship Club much sooner.





DVR, I am not one of the people who believes the stuff you have listed above.
However it can’t be argued that right now our first team squad is anything but depleted and that supporters have a right to be concerned about that.
There is no need for you to be condescending.
Of course there might be announcements made this week that players have been signed to bolster the squad for Saturday, but then again, there might not be.
Even with the money for JM in the bank and waiting to be spent there are no guarantees that players targeted by DM can be secured.
I will be more comfortable with our situation when I see some decent signings rather than suggestions of what is possibly going to happen.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 05:47:45 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

On Monday he was in DM’s plans so it wasn’t bullshit
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: i_ateallthepies on July 31, 2019, 05:49:13 pm
Filo, you know that sometimes it is just too soon to be open with the facts when to do so would just complicate matters needlessly.  To call that lying is a bit juvenile.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Michael Shaw on July 31, 2019, 05:57:39 pm
You'd think we won the lottery, but I see it as we have lost our star striker 3 days before our opening game. So far Darren has signed very little for such a big budget. When do to the wow-factor players start flooding in or do we have to continue being patient throughout the season?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Jonathan on July 31, 2019, 05:58:40 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

Why do you always look for conspiracies where there are clearly none.

Circumstances change. Monday was two days ago and it sounds like a firm offer has only come in for JM today.

I’m as concerned as anyone about our current situation but looking to call people out constantly for statements they made in good faith at the time is childish.

Excuse me, me look for conspiricies? I think you’ve got the wrong person

You did the same with McCann, saying the club were hiding something or covering it up.

Circumstances change quickly in football, and what’s true on Monday might not be true on Wednesday (or even Tuesday). It doesn’t mean anyone is spreading lies or bullshit.

There are similarity’s in both situations though, news from the club went into lockdown, nothing from the club or the Free Press guys until something was imminent, it doesn’t take a genius to work out on both occasions  things were already moving before they became public knowledge

Does this suggest you were talking bullshit when you accused people of getting the wrong person when implying you were looking for conspiracies?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 06:03:22 pm
The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

Why do you always look for conspiracies where there are clearly none.

Circumstances change. Monday was two days ago and it sounds like a firm offer has only come in for JM today.

I’m as concerned as anyone about our current situation but looking to call people out constantly for statements they made in good faith at the time is childish.

Excuse me, me look for conspiricies? I think you’ve got the wrong person

You did the same with McCann, saying the club were hiding something or covering it up.

Circumstances change quickly in football, and what’s true on Monday might not be true on Wednesday (or even Tuesday). It doesn’t mean anyone is spreading lies or bullshit.

There are similarity’s in both situations though, news from the club went into lockdown, nothing from the club or the Free Press guys until something was imminent, it doesn’t take a genius to work out on both occasions  things were already moving before they became public knowledge

Does this suggest you were talking bullshit when you accused people of getting the wrong person when implying you were looking for conspiracies?



The latest on the DFP site says marquis told the club last week he wouldn’t sign an extended contract and wants to move down south..  it also said the club’s search for a replacement intensified after that point.  That implies they were already looking before.

Which also points to DM talking bullshit on Monday whenhe said JM was very much in his plans

Why do you always look for conspiracies where there are clearly none.

Circumstances change. Monday was two days ago and it sounds like a firm offer has only come in for JM today.

I’m as concerned as anyone about our current situation but looking to call people out constantly for statements they made in good faith at the time is childish.

Excuse me, me look for conspiricies? I think you’ve got the wrong person

You did the same with McCann, saying the club were hiding something or covering it up.

Circumstances change quickly in football, and what’s true on Monday might not be true on Wednesday (or even Tuesday). It doesn’t mean anyone is spreading lies or bullshit.

There are similarity’s in both situations though, news from the club went into lockdown, nothing from the club or the Free Press guys until something was imminent, it doesn’t take a genius to work out on both occasions  things were already moving before they became public knowledge

Does this suggest you were talking bullshit when you accused people of getting the wrong person when implying you were looking for conspiracies?

Not at all, it was suggested I always looked for conspircies, he quoted one other instance, not exactly always is it?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: mjg on July 31, 2019, 06:11:44 pm
I have never seen a striker miss so many chances as John marquis, shhhh don’t tell portsmouth
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 06:12:35 pm
I have never seen a striker miss so many chances as John marquis, shhhh don’t tell portsmouth

Andy Williams?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 06:14:49 pm
Lots of his goals he’s made himself

As paul warne said the other day if donny sell marquis it’s almoat impossible to fond a striker to score 25 goals in league one
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Jonathan on July 31, 2019, 06:15:36 pm
I have never seen a striker miss so many chances as John marquis, shhhh don’t tell portsmouth

Unfortunately I’ve never seen a striker score as many as John Marquis has in his three seasons here.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 31, 2019, 06:16:31 pm
And you can add another 15 to that, as havn’t replaced Wilks yet, either.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: keith79 on July 31, 2019, 06:22:36 pm
Its ok having a big budget. But of your not going to spend what's the point. 3 days till kick off.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: redarmi66 on July 31, 2019, 06:23:17 pm
Happy with £2M. When you consider what we let Sharp go for.  No comparison for me. Great league 1 striker... no better than that. Invest the money in some young hungry talent!
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 06:27:05 pm
I’m doing my best not to be negative but it’s the same people who were saying back at the end of May early June that we would get the signings that we need to push for top 6 that are saying we will get them over the next 4 weeks.

The season starts on Saturday and our squad is as lightweight as I’ve seen it for many a year
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: GazLaz on July 31, 2019, 06:28:23 pm
Johns Mrs is from Brighton, Pompey is a lot closer than Donny. The woman gets her way again.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 06:29:21 pm
I’m doing my best not to be negative but it’s the same people who were saying back at the end of May early June that we would get the signings that we need to push for top 6 that are saying we will get them over the next 4 weeks.

The season starts on Saturday and our squad is as lightweight as I’ve seen it for many a year

Agreed, I’m not expecting much from the first few games with the squad asit is at the moment, we only need a couple of injuries and we have a full blown crisis
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: sha66y on July 31, 2019, 06:30:18 pm
I’m doing my best not to be negative but it’s the same people who were saying back at the end of May early June that we would get the signings that we need to push for top 6 that are saying we will get them over the next 4 weeks.

The season starts on Saturday and our squad is as lightweight as I’ve seen it for many a year

It may be lightweight in your opinion, but not mine....

Let’s get the first game out the way before you do that thing you do....
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Rovers91 on July 31, 2019, 06:31:22 pm
Hes got the goals for us but I don't feel too disappointed that he is leaving compared to when Sharp went. He will get goals for Pompey this season and I think they will win the league but I think he will struggle to make the step up to the championship.
With the money we get we should be able to strengthen the squad well but we will need a good 6/7 players in my opinion.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 06:31:51 pm
I’m doing my best not to be negative but it’s the same people who were saying back at the end of May early June that we would get the signings that we need to push for top 6 that are saying we will get them over the next 4 weeks.

The season starts on Saturday and our squad is as lightweight as I’ve seen it for many a year

It may be lightweight in your opinion, but not mine....

Let’s get the first game out the way before you do that thing you do....

Give over,
Even Darren Moore said he’s got a skeleton squad, and that’s before this marquis news.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 06:32:32 pm
Johns Mrs is from Brighton, Pompey is a lot closer than Donny. The woman gets her way again.

So what.??

Family comes first in my home, why not in Marquis’ ?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: IDM on July 31, 2019, 06:37:25 pm
I’m doing my best not to be negative but it’s the same people who were saying back at the end of May early June that we would get the signings that we need to push for top 6 that are saying we will get them over the next 4 weeks.

The season starts on Saturday and our squad is as lightweight as I’ve seen it for many a year

It may be lightweight in your opinion, but not mine....

Let’s get the first game out the way before you do that thing you do....

Give over,
Even Darren Moore said he’s got a skeleton squad, and that’s before this marquis news.

I would be surprised if Ward and Baptiste don’t sign his week..

I expect more to follow soon, maybe not in time for the first fixture but let’s have some faith shall we.?

Didn’t DM say in the DFP a few days ago that offers have been made and it takes time to get a deal over the line.!
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on July 31, 2019, 06:37:35 pm
My hope is we've deals lined up that are of a quality where we need the Marquis money to afford them, so rather than sign what our budget would allow we waited till we had this extra money to get some real quality. obviously the manager been fairly new in didn't help.

We must have some surplus in our wage bill to sign player now though looking at whose left and what's come in plus Marquis looks 99% done. Just wonder if all the best free agents will be gone now
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: sha66y on July 31, 2019, 06:38:50 pm
Its ok having a big budget. But of your not going to spend what's the point. 3 days till kick off.

Are you positive that we aren’t already lining up a striker plus others?
I’ve not heard anything from the club regarding this, just reading a lot of opinions that are pretty flimsy at best....

Are none of you’s actually taking into consideration that DM might actually think this team is strong enough?
I don’t really care that you don’t!.....I actually trust Darren’s judgement and ability to make this team great...


Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: sha66y on July 31, 2019, 06:47:06 pm
I’m doing my best not to be negative but it’s the same people who were saying back at the end of May early June that we would get the signings that we need to push for top 6 that are saying we will get them over the next 4 weeks.

The season starts on Saturday and our squad is as lightweight as I’ve seen it for many a year

It may be lightweight in your opinion, but not mine....

Let’s get the first game out the way before you do that thing you do....

Give over,
Even Darren Moore said he’s got a skeleton squad, and that’s before this marquis news.

I’m sure we just played Hull with a decent squad?
and no Marquis !
Your problem is that you don’t step back and enjoy the pre season turmoil,
What can you actually do about any of the current events surrounding DRFC? ..........absolutely nothing!, Nadda,zilch.....so in effect you are seeking like-minded moaners, to moan with ....
And at the end of the day...the season will start, we will have a team, and results will be what they will be.....

and you and ya fellow moaners might be pleasantly surprised....or totally vindicated.....
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: since-1969 on July 31, 2019, 06:52:41 pm
So he’s realised no one wants him in the Championship! But a % of the fee £50k?  double is wages . Not bad for a player who no one wanted until we got him . Good luck JM !
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 06:59:39 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 07:00:01 pm
I’m doing my best not to be negative but it’s the same people who were saying back at the end of May early June that we would get the signings that we need to push for top 6 that are saying we will get them over the next 4 weeks.

The season starts on Saturday and our squad is as lightweight as I’ve seen it for many a year

It may be lightweight in your opinion, but not mine....

Let’s get the first game out the way before you do that thing you do....

Give over,
Even Darren Moore said he’s got a skeleton squad, and that’s before this marquis news.

I’m sure we just played Hull with a decent squad?
and no Marquis !
Your problem is that you don’t step back and enjoy the pre season turmoil,
What can you actually do about any of the current events surrounding DRFC? ..........absolutely nothing!, Nadda,zilch.....so in effect you are seeking like-minded moaners, to moan with ....
And at the end of the day...the season will start, we will have a team, and results will be what they will be.....

and you and ya fellow moaners might be pleasantly surprised....or totally vindicated.....

No actually cause we had 3 or 4 trialists in that squad.

Answer me this, if May and wright got injured on sat who would replace them?
I don’t think you’ll be able to answer as I’ve come to the conclusion you aren’t a supporter and know very little if anything about the squad
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 07:02:19 pm
Describing me as a moaner emphasises this point even more so.
I’ve spent most of the last 5 years being described as a happy clapper
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: sha66y on July 31, 2019, 07:15:02 pm
Describing me as a moaner emphasises this point even more so.
I’ve spent most of the last 5 years being described as a happy clapper

Maybe ya should reinvent yourself.....because you do moan constantly...

oh to answer your other comment about May and Wright being unable to play....

Why would I want to know who should replace them?
I’m sure the professionals have that covered...

And I’ve had a season ticket since 96 when I left the service, but did a few years 3 1/2 ) in the Middle East recently so wasn’t able to get one

I’d say that qualifies me as a fan....but I seldom moan about the team , the manager or the board!

I’m just grateful to be a supporter
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: roversdude on July 31, 2019, 07:21:49 pm
When DM stated that John was in his plans maybe he meant the sale and reinvestment simples
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: besty on July 31, 2019, 07:27:28 pm
FFS

Reason I dont post on here anymore,start reading a thread then it turns into a a fecking boring you said this you said that I give up  :facepalm:
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 07:35:14 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Metalmicky on July 31, 2019, 07:36:33 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 07:41:27 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?

Would you ask SM? Just asking
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Metalmicky on July 31, 2019, 07:42:49 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?

Would you ask SM? Just asking

SM didn't say it - you did.  So just asking a question as you said it with such authority...
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Filo on July 31, 2019, 07:45:47 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

Are you in on the negotiations like
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: selby on July 31, 2019, 07:47:53 pm
 MJG, you have seen one miss more if you go on the average of games played.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 07:56:34 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?

Would you ask SM? Just asking

SM didn't say it - you did.  So just asking a question as you said it with such authority...

Basically no different as if SM had said it
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Metalmicky on July 31, 2019, 07:58:05 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?

Would you ask SM? Just asking

SM didn't say it - you did.  So just asking a question as you said it with such authority...

Basically no different as if SM had said it

Christ all mysterious aren't you?...............so I'm guessing you know nowt then
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Jonathan on July 31, 2019, 07:59:33 pm
Well can one of the in the know posters tell us if and when we can expect some good news on incomings? And I don’t mean someone past their best like Ward with his one goal in 9 appearances last season.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: since-1969 on July 31, 2019, 08:02:35 pm
I have never seen a striker miss so many chances as John marquis, shhhh don’t tell portsmouth
I bet they didn’t know he scores most of his goals early on and takes the last month of the season off .
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: builder jon on July 31, 2019, 08:04:45 pm
lets go and get billy back he will just be a bench seat warmer next season. :huh:
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: drfchound on July 31, 2019, 08:07:13 pm
I have never seen a striker miss so many chances as John marquis, shhhh don’t tell portsmouth







Raheem Sterling?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 08:09:34 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?

Would you ask SM? Just asking

SM didn't say it - you did.  So just asking a question as you said it with such authority...

Basically no different as if SM had said it

Christ all mysterious aren't you?...............so I'm guessing you know nowt then
If that makes you happy to think that I really don’t care
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 08:11:32 pm
Describing me as a moaner emphasises this point even more so.
I’ve spent most of the last 5 years being described as a happy clapper

Maybe ya should reinvent yourself.....because you do moan constantly...

oh to answer your other comment about May and Wright being unable to play....

Why would I want to know who should replace them?
I’m sure the professionals have that covered...

And I’ve had a season ticket since 96 when I left the service, but did a few years 3 1/2 ) in the Middle East recently so wasn’t able to get one

I’d say that qualifies me as a fan....but I seldom moan about the team , the manager or the board!

I’m just grateful to be a supporter

You must be new to the forum then.
I’m certainly not a moaner nor is Jonathan nor is drfchound, nor is roversalias, nor is filo.
But we’re all voicing concerns about the state of the squad with only 2 days to go now.
Even SM has previously stated in his opinion we need new players to strengthen the squad.

To sit there waffling on that the squad isn’t lightweight just because you think you’re amazing because you don’t moan is ridiculous
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 31, 2019, 08:11:58 pm
Once the Jamal Lowe (didn't train Tuesday) Portsmouth deal goes thru for £2.6 million to Wigan it's John to "Port"  :( :( :(  (not "Vale") then a striker comes here but it's a vale of secrecy who the Rovers striker will be
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 08:12:38 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?

Would you ask SM? Just asking

SM didn't say it - you did.  So just asking a question as you said it with such authority...

Basically no different as if SM had said it

Christ all mysterious aren't you?...............so I'm guessing you know nowt then
If that makes you happy to think that I really don’t care

Is there any chance you could reply to Jonathon then?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Metalmicky on July 31, 2019, 08:15:42 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?

Would you ask SM? Just asking

SM didn't say it - you did.  So just asking a question as you said it with such authority...

Basically no different as if SM had said it

Christ all mysterious aren't you?...............so I'm guessing you know nowt then
If that makes you happy to think that I really don’t care

Remember - you said it........... you're obviously very important in the club hierarchy. 
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: The Mighty Brian Rowe on July 31, 2019, 08:17:59 pm
Once the Jamal Lowe (didn't train Tuesday) Portsmouth deal goes thru for £2.6 million to Wigan it's John to "Port"  :( :( :(  (not "Vale") then a striker comes here but it's a vale of secrecy who the Rovers striker will be
Sincerely hope not...

Sent from my SM-A705FN using Tapatalk

Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 08:40:17 pm
I would hope there is a sell on and/or promotion clause in the deal
There is

You know this how - just asking?

Would you ask SM? Just asking

SM didn't say it - you did.  So just asking a question as you said it with such authority...

Basically no different as if SM had said it

Christ all mysterious aren't you?...............so I'm guessing you know nowt then
If that makes you happy to think that I really don’t care

Is there any chance you could reply to Jonathon then?

About? I don’t read every post
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: dickos1 on July 31, 2019, 08:41:36 pm
Well can one of the in the know posters tell us if and when we can expect some good news on incomings? And I don’t mean someone past their best like Ward with his one goal in 9 appearances last season.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: DearneValleyRover on July 31, 2019, 08:55:50 pm
Well can one of the in the know posters tell us if and when we can expect some good news on incomings? And I don’t mean someone past their best like Ward with his one goal in 9 appearances last season.

All I know is that DM has targeted two players other than Ward and Baptiste before today happened and the two mentioned are seen as cover only.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: RugbyRover on July 31, 2019, 08:57:53 pm
Lets round it up to £2million for the Marquis transfer. How should we spend it?

Cover the annual shortfall.
Bring in 3/4 decent players, no transfer fee, just wages.
Large (for us) transfer fee for another strike.
Other?

The million plus quoted might be the headline figure. This will be the grand total with any add-ons.
It will be paid over two or three years.
The figure we get in the next month won't be anywhere near that.
I guess we might get a 500k deposit....

Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: redarmy82 on July 31, 2019, 09:00:01 pm
Let's be straight. We won't be going out and paying a million plus on a replacement. Never going to happen.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: RugbyRover on July 31, 2019, 09:03:50 pm
I'd also be straight on the phone to Alfie Beestin's agent and give him a year's contract. Certainly a better player that Jamie Ward.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: RugbyRover on July 31, 2019, 09:10:18 pm
I'd also be straight on the phone to Alfie Beestin's agent and give him a year's contract. Certainly a better player that Jamie Ward.

Give a contract to Alfie I mean, not his agent.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: redarmy82 on July 31, 2019, 09:14:13 pm
Liam Hoden says "some" of the money will be given to DM.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Copps is Magic on July 31, 2019, 09:14:23 pm
Lets round it up to £2million for the Marquis transfer. How should we spend it?

Cover the annual shortfall.
Bring in 3/4 decent players, no transfer fee, just wages.
Large (for us) transfer fee for another strike.
Other?

The million plus quoted might be the headline figure. This will be the grand total with any add-ons.
It will be paid over two or three years.
The figure we get in the next month won't be anywhere near that.
I guess we might get a 500k deposit....

Reporter in Portsmouth reporting the initial fee is over 1 million, rising to 2 million with add ons.

So you're a bit off with your figures.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: drfchound on July 31, 2019, 09:19:40 pm
Lets round it up to £2million for the Marquis transfer. How should we spend it?

Cover the annual shortfall.
Bring in 3/4 decent players, no transfer fee, just wages.
Large (for us) transfer fee for another strike.
Other?

The million plus quoted might be the headline figure. This will be the grand total with any add-ons.
It will be paid over two or three years.
The figure we get in the next month won't be anywhere near that.
I guess we might get a 500k deposit....

Reporter in Portsmouth reporting the initial fee is over 1 million, rising to 2 million with add ons.

So you're a bit off with your figures.






Well he could be right about the deposit.
Just because the initial fee is £1m, doesn’t mean we will get it all upfront.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Copps is Magic on July 31, 2019, 09:24:12 pm
What are we trying to prove here by putting a negative slant on how we receive the money? I'm fairly sure the club has some degree of financial competency, they deal with cash in the bank and projected revenues. They can budget accordingly.

Do you lot think its a tenner in tenner out kind of job or just looking for the negative angle always?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: drfchound on July 31, 2019, 09:26:52 pm
What are we trying to prove here by putting a negative slant on how we receive the money? I'm fairly sure the club has some degree of financial competency, they deal with cash in the bank and projected revenues. They can budget accordingly.

Do you lot think its a tenner in tenner out kind of job or just looking for the negative angle always?





Not at all, for my part anyway.
I was simply making a point that Rugbyrover could be correct.
A million initial fee, rising to £2m is good business however you wrap it up.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: RugbyRover on July 31, 2019, 10:27:03 pm
What are we trying to prove here by putting a negative slant on how we receive the money? I'm fairly sure the club has some degree of financial competency, they deal with cash in the bank and projected revenues. They can budget accordingly.

Do you lot think its a tenner in tenner out kind of job or just looking for the negative angle always?

Hey Mr Angry, wind yer neck in. No negative slant in anything I posted mate. If you're reading it that way then you have a problem.

All I said was that we won't be receiving all the cash in one lump sum. I said this based on the deal Arsenal made to pay for their new £75 million striker.

I thought it might help people realise our options in the transfer market don't alter significantly overnight.
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 31, 2019, 11:06:21 pm
Quote
I thought it might help people realise our options in the transfer market don't alter significantly overnight.

Of course it does. Any money we bid for other players can be paid, if the bid is accepted, as and when the Marquis money becomes available.

Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: Chris Black come back on July 31, 2019, 11:08:23 pm
Interesting we all take for granted the money should be reinvested. Each season we are spending beyond our means by £2m and presume this is all absolutely fine. What about just one year the owners break even?
Title: Re: £2 million
Post by: redarmy82 on July 31, 2019, 11:10:02 pm
Interesting we all take for granted the money should be reinvested. Each season we are spending beyond our means by £2m and presume this is all absolutely fine. What about just one year the owners break even?

It should be reinvested. You don't run a football club to break even.