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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: since-1969 on July 31, 2019, 10:25:36 pm
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Maybe the £2m is a “Loan”
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First time I've ever seen him smile.
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Obviously not had tour round Portsmouth yet!
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Good luck to him , name the last Rovers striker to score that amount of goals in one season in the 3rd tier
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Give over with the marquis love in its sickening. He's f**ked us over. Grant gets dogs abuse and he gets praise.
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Has he explained his decision to any Donny fans yet?
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Give over with the marquis love in its sickening. He's f**ked us over. Grant gets dogs abuse and he gets praise.
For the first time I agree with elf.
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Give over with the marquis love in its sickening. He's f**ked us over. Grant gets dogs abuse and he gets praise.
For the first time I agree with elf.
You agree Marquis has f**ked us over? In what way exactly?
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He hasn’t f**ked us over though has he? Players move on. He’s given his all for the club, we got good money for him, and he’s gone to move closer to his family and further his career.
Grant gets stick (not from me btw) because he moved on at a time when he was giving forth plenty about people jumping at the chance to move for more money etc, and the fact that he ruthlessly disassembled the squad we had last season. I thought he was shaping up as a very good manager and wish he hadnt gone. I also wish pillocks would stop sending him snake emojis on Twitter and move on.
So there’s a bit of difference with the two situations, but at the end of the day they’re both human. It’s nothing personal from either of them, and neither have had a bad word to say about the club since moving on.
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How has he f****d us over , he gone and got a better job in his eyes with more money,closer to his wife/partner’s family. I dare say in the 30-ish years since you left school you are not in the same job, if you are not why did leave that job or any jobs since then . To footballers ,football is a job , when will a certain blinkered few on here realise that
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Totally agree. John in my eyes is a legend and he has moved on. He puts his family first. Fair play and thank you
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What's the point
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And also probably for the first time, I agree with SM. He's gone for more money, nothing else. Fair enough. At least McCann went to a Championship club so was bettering his career. Marquis has gone to another League 1 club (all be it a much bigger one than ours)
Personally, I hope Portsmouth have a shit season and don't get promoted and we do. Then he may wish he'd stayed.
But no he won't, because it's all about the cash
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I think Marquis deserves respect. He’s worked his socks off in his three years here and scored lots of goals. He could’ve run his contract down and left for nothing, he could have kicked up a public fuss to force a move. He hasn’t done either of those things. He leaves with my respect and well wishes.
We need to move on and hopefully we will now strengthen the wider team and squad in the way it desperately needs.
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He did brilliantly considering he scored most of his goals in the first half of the season ..
part timer !
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I don’t begrudge him wanting to leave but I think it is out of order leaving it until this late in the day. If it’s true he’s only announced at this stage that he wanted to go and wouldn't sign a new contract then I think he’s took the piss a little and lead the club down the garden path.
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He hasn’t f**ked us over though has he? Players move on. He’s given his all for the club, we got good money for him, and he’s gone to move closer to his family and further his career.
Grant gets stick (not from me btw) because he moved on at a time when he was giving forth plenty about people jumping at the chance to move for more money etc, and the fact that he ruthlessly disassembled the squad we had last season. I thought he was shaping up as a very good manager and wish he hadnt gone. I also wish pillocks would stop sending him snake emojis on Twitter and move on.
So there’s a bit of difference with the two situations, but at the end of the day they’re both human. It’s nothing personal from either of them, and neither have had a bad word to say about the club since moving on.
Exactly that!
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Presume there was some soft agreement that he could leave for a Championship club to further himself. Nobody came in for him for the fee, so we started planning for him to be here next season. Next thing Portsmouth into mix and he now wants to leave for a League One club and just before season starts, so not great for us.
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John would have been out of work at Rovers in a year's time. Instead he has a 3 year contract near his family, with a club most likely to get promoted. Who wouldn't make the same decision? He didn't do it out of malice for Rovers, nor has he been critical of the club or players. Good luck to him and thanks for the last 3 years here where he was the force that got us back into league one scoring 26 goals.
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I don’t begrudge him wanting to leave but I think it is out of order leaving it until this late in the day. If it’s true he’s only announced at this stage that he wanted to go and wouldn't sign a new contract then I think he’s took the piss a little and lead the club down the garden path.
Strange that he never put in a transfer request and only made his feelings known when the club wanted to offer him a new contract. Would that be connected to some loyalty bonus perhaps?
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
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I think Portsmouth’s interest has been there all summer but he’s been edging his bets all summer and now nothing has materialised he’s decided he would in fact like to go to Portsmouth after saying all summer he didn’t
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He was waiting for a championship club but no one took a gamble on him so as soon as Pompey made an offer he took it end of story I would say.
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I think Portsmouth’s interest has been there all summer but he’s been edging his bets all summer and now nothing has materialised he’s decided he would in fact like to go to Portsmouth after saying all summer he didn’t
With talk of interest from Charlton and Luton you can understand why. More money, a move down south AND Championship football would’ve been his preference I’m sure.
The trouble with all this is that we view things with a totally different lens to players and managers. They make their decisions based on what is best for them and their families. Some players conduct themselves better than others in the process, but by and large that is what their decision making process is based on. Very occasionally loyalty comes into it but for the most part it’s playing at a higher level, earning more money, having more security, or doing what suits them and their family/lifestyle.
Now this is no slight on Copps because we all revere him and are grateful for his loyalty to the club, but if, for example, Middlesbrough had come in for him in his prime, do we think he’d have stayed? I don’t think so. And he wouldn’t have been a lesser person for it.
The fact is, we as supporters have loyalty only to our club and that’s it, so we view these things mainly with emotion rather than people making career decisions. That’s why it’s different to any other industry.. So yes it’s frustrating and it pisses us off when people move on, but for footballers and managers, they in most cases don’t want to annoy people with their career moves, but sadly they have to accept it as part of the territory because of the way fans are emotionally invested in them.
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
The board would sooner pretend they have a five year plan and hope we didn’t hear them say it 10years ago .
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Did you offer a deal he couldn't refuse?
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He'll get a good round of applause from me next time he rocks up at the KM for all his goals and commitment to the cause.
Once the game kicks off, he should get dogs abuse and I personally hope he barely gets a kick.
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Did you offer a deal he couldn't refuse?
Yep, that's the way to go, for sure.
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Did you offer a deal he couldn't refuse?
Yep, that's the way to go, for sure.
Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Did you offer a deal he couldn't refuse?
Yep, that's the way to go, for sure.
What is the issue then ?
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Did you offer a deal he couldn't refuse?
Yep, that's the way to go, for sure.
Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Did you offer a deal he couldn't refuse?
Yep, that's the way to go, for sure.
What is the issue then ?
If it's not us, who do you think it is?
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Don't know ?
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He'll get a good round of applause from me next time he rocks up at the KM for all his goals and commitment to the cause.
Once the game kicks off, he should get dogs abuse and I personally hope he barely gets a kick.
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Joe Wright takes him out in his first tackle when he plays against us and out for rest of the season or maybe whoever’s Pompeys first game
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Is there an issue at all? Our most highly sought-after player has left to play for a bigger team. Most of us expected him to go after the end of last season, it's just taken most of the summer to materialise as Rovers stuck to their guns and demanded a good fee.
Still time for us to use the money to bolster our squad and give it another go. 46 games still to play, meaning it quite literally is all to play for.
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Good luck to Marquis, top player for Rovers, good business for Rovers! if the fee is anything near that rumoured.
We’d have had to have invested a lot more money to keep John in wages and incentives and at his age, there’s less chance of getting any money back resale on him. Invest in 2/3 hot prospects and maybe we might hit the jackpot, onwards and upwards.
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Good luck to John he worked his socks while he was here, where is the proof yet that we were bringing in better players to make our attempt on promotion again. What ever was said will be said the money obtained must be used to bring in several players of better quality if we are to be near a promotion spot. So we’ve lost Grant because he was ambitious we’ve lost John because he wanted be closer to his family and he must believe Portsmouth can give him Championship football.
So it’s up to the club to use this money to show ours aims of promotion are not just words but actions the next few days and weeks we will see what players we bring in and we’ve needed them all summer.
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Maybe the £2m is a “Loan”
his previous loan spell at Portsmouth seems to have airbrushed out of history
Sometimes women rule the world - his wife is pregnant by the way - fee just under £ 2 million
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Is there an issue at all? Our most highly sought-after player has left to play for a bigger team. Most of us expected him to go after the end of last season, it's just taken most of the summer to materialise as Rovers stuck to their guns and demanded a good fee.
Still time for us to use the money to bolster our squad and give it another go. 46 games still to play, meaning it quite literally is all to play for.
I think this is why we get all the conspiracy theorists. I think most assume there isn't an issue, but then we get those in the know saying that there was some kind of issue, but not saying what it is. So naturally people will speculate.
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Conspiracy or not it was said we had a list of exciting players to chose from. Experienced players were allowed to leave because we didn’t want to match their demands. No bids had come in for John Marquis. Brought in two fullbacks and before Grant left an unknown in Gomes that Grant never talked about. We still had a list of exciting players that we wouldn’t miss Herbie Kane. Appointed a fans favourite in DM he was given time to look at players. Still John Marquis was here and no bids therefore apart from two loans we couldn’t bring any exciting players in off the list or by now had they gone with the previous manager. Having had a straw pole on where the team would finish 4th was one reply still no exciting players. We bring in experienced trialists but even into the week were decisions were going to be made still no exciting players. John Marquis leaves to a promotion rival we receive a transfer fee of some amount. He left but there appears to be an issue, still no exciting players. So after all that we are sat here with two days before the kick off having got the money we’ve been waiting for all summer to try and fulfill the ambition of promotion. So will we sign any exciting players no conspiracy only the people who think they know something are putting down the people who know nothing.
Now it’s down to DM and GB to get players so we can try for promotion if we don’t the blame will be pointed elsewhere like all ways.
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Pompey offered him a 3 year contract and they could be in the Championship next season. Surely Rovers could have offered a similar deal a month ago if they had equal confidence in him, but chose not to.
It's not us. We're not the issue here.
Is there an issue at all? Our most highly sought-after player has left to play for a bigger team. Most of us expected him to go after the end of last season, it's just taken most of the summer to materialise as Rovers stuck to their guns and demanded a good fee.
Still time for us to use the money to bolster our squad and give it another go. 46 games still to play, meaning it quite literally is all to play for.
I think this is why we get all the conspiracy theorists. I think most assume there isn't an issue, but then we get those in the know saying that there was some kind of issue, but not saying what it is. So naturally people will speculate.
Trust you to misread a post Steve. If anybody can you can.
I was responding to somebody who said that 'we', as a club should have matched the contract that Pompey offered JM. In other words a 3 year contract and a much higher salary if we had the same confidence in him and yet chose not to.
I just stated that it wasn't us that stopped that from happening, we weren't the issue. It was John's decision to leave, we had no choice in the matter.
So, no conspiracy, nobody 'in the know' making out there was one, just somebody saying the blame for not offering a 3 year contract didn't lie with the club. It is that simple.
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If anyone at the club & I mean anyone, didn’t think Marquis would be leaving for pastures new before the start of the season (& yes I know it’s only two days away), then they’ve had their heads in the sand.
If DM does not have a plan already in place to sign or loan a target man before we play Rochdale away then I’ll be very, very disappointed given all that Gavin Baldwin has said about DM’s contacts in the game & that infamous little black book he showed up with at his interview which GB almost salivated over.
And SM with his privileged ‘inside knowledge’ assuring us “we won’t be needing Herbie Kane”, well that comment led me to believe DM had quality players queuing up to wear a Rovers shirt.
I haven’t a clue who will lead the line on Saturday, I sincerely hope DM does.
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I think Marquis deserves respect. He’s worked his socks off in his three years here and scored lots of goals. He could’ve run his contract down and left for nothing, he could have kicked up a public fuss to force a move. He hasn’t done either of those things. He leaves with my respect and well wishes.
We need to move on and hopefully we will now strengthen the wider team and squad in the way it desperately needs.
I seem to always be saying the same thing after a Jonathon post
Good common sense point of view - you are wasted on here lol :scarf:
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Players come and players go , that’s football, deal with it !!!! Hi