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Title: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Branton Rover on August 26, 2019, 01:33:07 pm
Had JR not got these two gentlemen to come onboard all those years ago, I doubt very much we’d have a club to support now in 2019/20 - JR couldn’t have continued as he didn’t have the resources - TB himself not a football supporter believes that a town like Donny deserves a football team for us all to follow and for that we all should be thankful for their continued investment. I firmly of the belief that we’re on the cusp of something here we’ve got a fantastic manager who is respected throughout all the leagues and with a new number 9 on the verge of arriving - we could be in for a truly memorable season - just look across the Pennines and it makes you think how the hell can the moaners and groaners on here still bleat we’re not going out chucking money around like there’s no tomorrow.
You don’t know how lucky you are!!
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 26, 2019, 01:42:19 pm
Spot on

I was lucky enough to meet Dick Watson and his family a few years ago. Genuine Rovers fans through & through which is why I get pissed off when people question their desire for the Rovers to do well. I also met JR on a couple of occasions and thought he was brilliant. Loved to chat about the old days with Alick but also loved to chat about the future. With these and TB we’ve been very fortunate. Probably more than we realise.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: phil old leake on August 26, 2019, 01:42:52 pm
I absolutely agree 100%

When clubs are going bust through bad management at board level and we are economically sound it gets up my bugle when idiots start bleating about the lack of investment

Be thankful that the owners care enough about the club not to buy and buy and buy

Let’s be honest they can’t be in it for the money

I for one feel thankful that we have proper business men running the club

Long may it last
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Michael Shaw on August 26, 2019, 01:49:58 pm
We were lucky that when Dick passed away, Andy was prepared to pick up the mantle his father had carried for the club. Lose the Watson family and we would rely solely on Terry Bramall, and should Terry walk away I dread to think how we would struggle.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Branton Rover on August 26, 2019, 01:59:35 pm
Indeed we are fortunate to have Mr Bramall plus Andy Watson at the helm of our club - not forgetting Gavin who oversees a steady ship is run for the benefit of us, the fans
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Colin C No.3 on August 26, 2019, 02:02:20 pm
Sack the board! I could swear I'd heard the cry somewhere?!
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Herman Hessian on August 26, 2019, 02:03:45 pm
Had JR not got these two gentlemen to come onboard all those years ago, I doubt very much we’d have a club to support now in 2019/20 - JR couldn’t have continued as he didn’t have the resources - TB himself not a football supporter believes that a town like Donny deserves a football team for us all to follow and for that we all should be thankful for their continued investment. I firmly of the belief that we’re on the cusp of something here we’ve got a fantastic manager who is respected throughout all the leagues and with a new number 9 on the verge of arriving - we could be in for a truly memorable season - just look across the Pennines and it makes you think how the hell can the moaners and groaners on here still bleat we’re not going out chucking money around like there’s no tomorrow.
You don’t know how lucky you are!!

yeah but, but - but - don't forget that DM's not great at interviews, and in some of the wins in the run to the brilliant, climactic play-off denouement last season, the quality of performance wasn't really up to scratch - you'd be a fool, and a damned fool at that, I'd hazard - not to rein in your enthusiasm; bloody rubbish, rovers....
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 26, 2019, 02:05:17 pm
Excuse me but you can't go calling people an idiot just cos they don't see things the way you do, we all have our own view on the club, I think we are lucky to have a club and it was all started by JR but the current board have don't good for us but call people idiots it 3 steps to far
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 26, 2019, 02:08:09 pm
Can we invent an emoticon specifically for sarcasm?
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Michael Shaw on August 26, 2019, 02:11:36 pm
Posters come on here and are often highly critical, if not the norm. A rare positive post and you, Herman, have to jump down Branton's throat. Why can't you just keep your opinions to yourself. Do you not support the club or what would you change? Do you really think we would be better off without this board and if so who would own the club and plug the financial deficit, YOU? Personally I don't give a crap what DM sounds like. He can have an effeminate squeaky voice for all I care as long as we are in the top 6.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Drover on August 26, 2019, 02:14:49 pm
Posters come on here and are often highly critical, if not the norm. A rare positive post and you, Herman, have to jump down Branton's throat. Why can't you just keep your opinions to yourself. Do you not support the club or what would you change? Do you really think we would be better off without this board and if so who would own the club and plug the financial deficit, YOU? Personally I don't give a crap what DM sounds like. He can have an effeminate squeaky voice for all I care as long as we are in the top 6.

WhoooooooOOOOOSSSHHHHH!
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: eastender on August 26, 2019, 02:17:55 pm
Mrs Watson still attends home games and is very enthusiastic , it's great to see her smiling face when we score.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Michael Shaw on August 26, 2019, 02:19:03 pm
JR's smiling face is immortalised in my memory.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Branton Rover on August 26, 2019, 02:33:55 pm
JR’s smile along with the Great Wall of China still the only thing visible from space
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: IDM on August 26, 2019, 02:43:23 pm
Posters come on here and are often highly critical, if not the norm. A rare positive post and you, Herman, have to jump down Branton's throat. Why can't you just keep your opinions to yourself. Do you not support the club or what would you change? Do you really think we would be better off without this board and if so who would own the club and plug the financial deficit, YOU? Personally I don't give a crap what DM sounds like. He can have an effeminate squeaky voice for all I care as long as we are in the top 6.

I think he was being sarcastic..
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 26, 2019, 02:45:43 pm
JR was and is a great man.

Can we not all agree on that?
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Northants Nomad on August 26, 2019, 02:47:16 pm
Posters come on here and are often highly critical, if not the norm. A rare positive post and you, Herman, have to jump down Branton's throat. Why can't you just keep your opinions to yourself. Do you not support the club or what would you change? Do you really think we would be better off without this board and if so who would own the club and plug the financial deficit, YOU? Personally I don't give a crap what DM sounds like. He can have an effeminate squeaky voice for all I care as long as we are in the top 6.

Was Herman’s tongue-in-cheek post too subtle for you, Michael?  I think you’ll find he was joking and having a little pop at the doom-mongers.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 26, 2019, 02:52:30 pm
Can we invent an emoticon specifically for sarcasm?
can we have one for "porkie pies" as well perhaps a melton mowbray one
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: scawsby steve on August 26, 2019, 02:53:34 pm
Posters come on here and are often highly critical, if not the norm. A rare positive post and you, Herman, have to jump down Branton's throat. Why can't you just keep your opinions to yourself. Do you not support the club or what would you change? Do you really think we would be better off without this board and if so who would own the club and plug the financial deficit, YOU? Personally I don't give a crap what DM sounds like. He can have an effeminate squeaky voice for all I care as long as we are in the top 6.

Satire alert.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 26, 2019, 02:57:07 pm
Can we invent an emoticon specifically for sarcasm?
can we have one for "porkie pies" as well perhaps a melton mowbray one

A picture of Boris in front of a map of Thailand or Iceland?
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: elmsallrover on August 26, 2019, 03:34:56 pm
Why can't the board spend spend spend they can afford it
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Paul Simpson on August 26, 2019, 03:35:25 pm
Far too much optimism on this thread !!! Lol 😂
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: graingrover on August 26, 2019, 03:39:54 pm
Terry Bramall admits to being a late convert to football and I believe that what persuades him to continue to subsidise us is the Club Doncaster ethic and their work in the local community which had provided him with the perfect vehicle to ‘ put something back ‘ as he describes it.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: RedJ on August 26, 2019, 03:40:42 pm
Why can't the board spend spend spend they can afford it

Aye let's spunk money for the sake of it just cos the owners have money.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: silent majority on August 26, 2019, 03:44:48 pm
He's not the novice that people make him out to be. I once heard him talking about his early working days with Dick when they were fresh out of university and attending Wolves games together. He's more of a fan than we would realise.

But more to the point, he puts his hand in his pocket, and then drives the club forward with his desire for this club to be as successful as possible, on and off the pitch.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 26, 2019, 03:48:28 pm
And he stays out of the limelight - which should show it's not all about him and it is in fact the club/club doncaster/giving something back to the town that is what keeps him going.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Bollinger on August 26, 2019, 03:58:17 pm
Why can't the board spend spend spend they can afford it

Spend their own hard earned cash to fund your own entertainment? I can see why they might but I can't see why they should.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 26, 2019, 04:08:38 pm
Can we invent an emoticon specifically for sarcasm?

I already have, in the form of using Purple type!
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 26, 2019, 05:05:49 pm
Why can't the board spend spend spend they can afford it

Spend their own hard earned cash to fund your own entertainment? I can see why they might but I can't see why they should.
we all do 🤔
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 26, 2019, 05:06:18 pm
But I'm not saying that they should
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Michael Shaw on August 26, 2019, 05:19:22 pm
Posters come on here and are often highly critical, if not the norm. A rare positive post and you, Herman, have to jump down Branton's throat. Why can't you just keep your opinions to yourself. Do you not support the club or what would you change? Do you really think we would be better off without this board and if so who would own the club and plug the financial deficit, YOU? Personally I don't give a crap what DM sounds like. He can have an effeminate squeaky voice for all I care as long as we are in the top 6.

I think he was being sarcastic..


I don't do sarcasm or irony, I'm afraid. I just say what I mean and leave the sarcasm to others.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Campsall rover on August 26, 2019, 05:50:43 pm
Why can't the board spend spend spend they can afford it

Aye let's spunk money for the sake of it just cos the owners have money.
Just ignore him RedJ. Not worth a reply. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Herman Hessian on August 26, 2019, 07:48:26 pm
I don't do sarcasm or irony, I'm afraid. I just say what I mean and leave the sarcasm to others - but, to my detriment, very often then fail to spot it when they choose to employ such rapier wit...

FTFY

 ;)

Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 26, 2019, 09:28:30 pm
Vicar

"we all do 🤔"

No we don't - we spend OUR hard earned money on OUR entertainment.

Slightly different situation.
 
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 26, 2019, 09:47:31 pm
Please don't give me that as on comparison to Wealth we as fans invest as much as the directors do with season tickets merchandise and food and drink
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 26, 2019, 10:03:40 pm
Yes, quite possibly more - but again we choose to spend our hard earned money on our entertainment. They choose to spend (or not in the eyes of some) their earned money on  our entertainment.

I know it's not quite the same but I bet if I asked you to pay for my family a trip to the pictures or vice versa - neither family would get to the pictures!

Lol
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 26, 2019, 10:18:24 pm
In fact I thought we all did it for the cause and the boys on the pitch and that is all of us
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 26, 2019, 10:31:45 pm
Dunno matey to be fair - I would say that imo Rovers fans pay their money to watch their club.
I have never felt that any money I have ever spent on anything to do with Rovers is for the boys on the pitch per se - it's for the good of the club which is a different entity.

Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 26, 2019, 10:39:16 pm
There again we are all the club as you call it weather you are a fan player director or tea lady.  The club belongs to the fans the directors are custodians of the club, as we will be here long after the directors have gone
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 26, 2019, 10:48:32 pm
Yep the fans will indeed and I think that's probably what I mean by any money I spend being for the club as opposed to whoever happens to be in the 'team' - the club/fans will be there long after the current team too.

The fans will choose to continue (or not) to spend their own money on their own entertainment - they won't do it for anyone else's (family aside probably)
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 26, 2019, 11:35:52 pm
Rovers are entertainment to you, It's not just entertainment for me  doncaster rovers are a way of life as it is with most of us
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 27, 2019, 08:50:41 am
I fully appreciate and understand that vicar, but our little discussion started when you replied to elmsall's and bollinger's chat which about why TB/Watsons didn't have to spend all their money on our/your entertainment.

Call it what you like - hobbie/entertainment/way of life and the question still stands why should they put their money on our/your way of life?
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 27, 2019, 09:01:43 am
It is a known fact people know when they go in to take over a club that they will be spending there money.  When JR braught them in it was as in esters not bystanders and they accepted that
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 27, 2019, 09:34:27 am
Yep and they've funded the club ever since including letting JR spend oodles of their money too but at some point their patience with him and that approach was bound to be a step or two too far.

They are great - Rovers are lucky to have them and if they don't see the need to spend even more of their money in going boom or bust for the long term good of the club then for me that's completely their prerogative.

The club is in exceptional hands. In this day and age that's a big big thing.

I believe they will get DRFC back into the championship and the club will last longer up there eventually than even the SO'D days.

In my opinion, the club is being run (almost) to the best of it's capabilities and DRFC will prosper for many more years further up the pyramid than they are currently - I have no problem with the measured approach of getting there sensibly, prudently and with long term foundations in place to keep them there.

The plight of bolton, bury, Coventry, Portsmouth etc etc won't be repeated at DRFC under their watch.

They don't need to chuck any more money at it in one go unless they want to in my opinion.

Cracking discussion vicar!
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 27, 2019, 10:39:02 am
And JR spent oodles of his own money to but that's the way it is I actually agree to making the club sustainable but till it is they have to fund it with the money they have coming in till it is sustainable sorry to disagree with you but I have enjoyed out chat about it a anyway 😊😄
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 27, 2019, 10:40:31 am
JR also surrendered his shareholding and I believe also a seven figure debt obligation owed to him when he severed his links with the club.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 27, 2019, 11:05:31 am
I don’t pretend to know anything about the ‘business’ side of the club, and if I’m honest, I don’t really care as long as it’s in as healthy position as it possibly can be. At the same time, I won’t have a bad word about JR, DW, AW or TB. They’re all absolute God sends in my view.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 27, 2019, 04:02:55 pm
CBCB - yep that's the official line as it stands - no doubting that.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 27, 2019, 04:31:32 pm
I don’t pretend to know anything about the ‘business’ side of the club, and if I’m honest, I don’t really care as long as it’s in as healthy position as it possibly can be. At the same time, I won’t have a bad word about JR, DW, AW or TB. They’re all absolute God sends in my view.
I agree with you and I never said a bad word
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 27, 2019, 04:50:01 pm
I don't believe either vicar or I said a bad word either!
Lol

Hey Vicar - is your walking footy team still using those kits I gave to you?

If not I hope they did the job for you all (despite being scunny-esque) before you swapped em.
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 27, 2019, 07:39:33 pm
Quote from: Al4475 link=topic=273826.msg898037we have #msg898037 date=1566921001
I don't believe either vicar or I said a bad word either!
Lol

Hey Vicar - is your walking footy team still using those kits I gave to you?

If not I hope they did the job for you all (despite being scunny-esque) before you swapped em.
we have mate yes a couple or 3 times thank mate
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Al4475 on August 27, 2019, 07:40:39 pm
Good good - am glad they've been of is to you!
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: the vicar on August 27, 2019, 07:57:39 pm
Thanks very much mate maybe have a drink together and a football chat sometime
Title: Re: Bramall & Watson families
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 27, 2019, 09:52:28 pm
I don't believe either vicar or I said a bad word either!
Lol

Hey Vicar - is your walking footy team still using those kits I gave to you?

If not I hope they did the job for you all (despite being scunny-esque) before you swapped em.

For the record your honour I didn’t intend to accuse, assume, presume, believe or suggest that anyone has said a bad word about them...it was just a general statement really  :P