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Title: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 29, 2019, 10:40:00 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49502232

Excellent news. The would-be Mussolini, Salvini has massively overplayed his hand and been slapped down.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Axholme Lion on August 29, 2019, 03:18:16 pm
Yes, Boris has stopped them from overturning the will of the people by ignoring the referendum result.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: SydneyRover on August 29, 2019, 03:22:56 pm
Have just spent a few hours in the Resistance museum in Amsterdam bst and it's a timely reminder of how it can all go wrong very quickly and how propaganda played a large part in undermining the will of the people.

How much of the UK press is centre right or just plain right?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 29, 2019, 03:56:09 pm
Yes, Boris has stopped them from overturning the will of the people by ignoring the referendum result.

And he's done it by ignoring the will of people when they spoke one year after the referendum.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Axholme Lion on August 29, 2019, 04:00:00 pm
Yes, Boris has stopped them from overturning the will of the people by ignoring the referendum result.

And he's done it by ignoring the will of people when they spoke one year after the referendum.

Was that the election where 80% of those who voted placed there support behind parties who at the time were pro Brexit?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: foxbat on August 29, 2019, 04:57:38 pm
still waiting to hear how I will be better off by leaving the EU !
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Donnywolf on August 29, 2019, 05:38:31 pm
Select a comfy chair

Buy War and Peace and the Complete Works of William Shakespeare both in the Icelandic language

Teach yourself Icelandic

Read all the above and then .....

.... still nobody will be able to tell you anything positive
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: SydneyRover on August 29, 2019, 09:10:30 pm
Funnnnnnnny
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 29, 2019, 09:18:00 pm
Here's one.

We'll have taken back control from the demagogues who run the EU and we'll have given power back to our Parli...

...oh, odd on.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: BigH on September 01, 2019, 05:14:58 pm
Yes, Boris has stopped them from overturning the will of the people by ignoring the referendum result.
You know, at times like this, I find myself going back to the question that was actually asked in the 2016 referendum, namely:

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Note the lack of mention of timing, invocation of Article 50, a General Election, extended prorogation of parliament, taking heed of the ERG, creation of a Brexit Party, prospective recession, Johnson as PM, Cummings as PM lead advisor...I could go on.

All of these things are the result of certain individuals/groups with vested interests hijacking the outcome of the answer to that question for their own ends. And all in the supposed name of 'the will of the people'. Really?

Think about it; who's ****ing whom?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 01, 2019, 06:55:34 pm
Yes, Boris has stopped them from overturning the will of the people by ignoring the referendum result.

And he's done it by ignoring the will of people when they spoke one year after the referendum.

Was that the election where 80% of those who voted placed there support behind parties who at the time were pro Brexit?

No, the election where 0% of those who voted placed their support behind a party who wanted to sideline Parliament.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: hoolahoop on September 01, 2019, 07:10:35 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49502232

Excellent news. The would-be Mussolini, Salvini has massively overplayed his hand and been slapped down.

Indeed it is , it's like a breath of fresh air . This may serve as a reminder to Doris Johnson that if you over-reach you can lose. Salvini was playing poker with a far stronger hand than Johnson ; who has stirred up a hornet's nest that should be his undoing very shortly . He is up againdt the usually benign but increasingly angry  British people -  even amongst the "will  of the people " .
Now Italy have to get there house in order , Brexit should have been an opportunity  for the Italians .
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 01, 2019, 08:10:21 pm
Talking of would-be fascists, I see Cummings has been floating another genius idea today.

If Parliament forces Johnson to go to Brussels to ask for an extension to A50, they'll ask Viktor Orban from Hungary to veto it.


https://mobile.twitter.com/marklowen/status/1168100003769982976

That's right. The UK Govt will ask a foreign quasi-fascist autocrat who has destroyed the freedom of the judiciary and press in his own country, to block the will of the UK Parliament.

This Taking Back Control is REALLY weird isn't it?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: SydneyRover on September 01, 2019, 08:49:27 pm
It's getting very weird all those countries we laughed and made jokes about with their tin-pot governments, will we yet see boris riding a horse shirtless (or shitless even) parading his manliness to swooning crowds.

Cuming's reminds me of

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYmUxY2MyOTQtYjRlMi00ZWEwLTkzODctZDMxNDcyNTFhYjNjXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDk3NzU2MTQ@._V1_UY268_CR3,0,182,268_AL_.jpg

Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Axholme Lion on September 02, 2019, 01:54:59 pm
Talking of would-be fascists, I see Cummings has been floating another genius idea today.

If Parliament forces Johnson to go to Brussels to ask for an extension to A50, they'll ask Viktor Orban from Hungary to veto it.


https://mobile.twitter.com/marklowen/status/1168100003769982976

That's right. The UK Govt will ask a foreign quasi-fascist autocrat who has destroyed the freedom of the judiciary and press in his own country, to block the will of the UK Parliament.

This Taking Back Control is REALLY weird isn't it?

Orban is a top man in my book.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: foxbat on September 02, 2019, 04:52:05 pm
really ?  is he before or after Hitler ?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Sprotyrover on September 02, 2019, 05:34:57 pm
Fascist isn't that somebody with extreme Anti Semitic views?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Ldr on September 02, 2019, 06:00:23 pm
Fascist isn't that somebody with extreme Anti Semitic views?

No that's an anti semite mate
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: glosterred on September 02, 2019, 06:22:46 pm
I thought, watching the news, a fascist is anyone who doesn’t agree with they’re view, especially on BREXIT. As it seems the remoaners scream it at anyone who wants to leave!





Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Ldr on September 02, 2019, 06:24:16 pm
It's become fashionable
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Ldr on September 02, 2019, 06:24:52 pm
Momentum have made mob mentality the norm
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 02, 2019, 07:19:45 pm
No Glos. It's someone with a far right stance who unpicks democracy and plays to nationalistic prejudice. Orban fits the bill perfectly.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Bentley Bullet on September 02, 2019, 09:57:09 pm
What about left-wing fascists?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Bentley Bullet on September 02, 2019, 10:27:06 pm
Those unanswered questions are building up, Billy lad!
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Axholme Lion on September 03, 2019, 02:04:38 pm
What about left-wing fascists?

Didn't you know the left are all Angels?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Axholme Lion on September 03, 2019, 03:43:02 pm
really ?  is he before or after Hitler ?

Not quite up with Enver Hoxha.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: bobjimwilly on September 03, 2019, 11:37:11 pm
show me 1 incident of left wing f
What about left-wing fascists?

there's no such thing. buy a dictionary, read a book or something.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Tarkovsky_Mikluzhkin on September 04, 2019, 08:23:13 am
If the Nazis are socialists does that mean North Korea (The Democratic People's Republic of Korea) are a Democracy.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Sprotyrover on September 04, 2019, 05:24:31 pm
So I looked it up Fascists are believers in a well run Authoritarian State. Communists believe in the state being run by Collectives not dissimilar from momentum!
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Sprotyrover on September 04, 2019, 05:25:19 pm
Racists are just Racist.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Sprotyrover on September 04, 2019, 05:26:28 pm
So we have Momentum Racist Left wingers and the EDL Racist Right wingers! Simps!
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 04, 2019, 05:29:58 pm
Sproty.

That's about as comprehensive a description as saying that cars are defined by usually having 4 wheels.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: RedJ on September 04, 2019, 06:00:21 pm
show me 1 incident of left wing f
What about left-wing fascists?

there's no such thing. buy a dictionary, read a book or something.

Nazis? It does afterall stand for National Socialists, the latter being a left wing policy.

I see you've fallen for the logic rabid Americans use to decry anything remotely left wing.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Tarkovsky_Mikluzhkin on September 04, 2019, 06:17:24 pm
Come on Redj stop scaremongering!! Jesus.
The Nazis are just cuddly little socialists trying to help out the common man but oh no you resort straight to project fear just because you disagree with their "it's all the foreigners fault" rhetoric.
They are 100% Socialist it says so in their name and they definitely wouldn't lie and so what if they have all parties use propaganda that's why no one should vote and let those "Lefty" Nazis seize power with 30% of the vote.   
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: SydneyRover on September 04, 2019, 08:04:08 pm
These are text book iterations and hardly relate to the real world Sproty
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: MachoMadness on September 04, 2019, 08:26:33 pm
This "both sides are bad" meme needs to stop. It's a tactic the Right uses to excuse the most horrific things. You point out the inflammatory racist statements or Trump and Johnson, or the rise is racist attacks and far right terrorism across the globe and instead of looking at the root cause of that people point fingers and go "yeah but Momentum are bad too!"

No. Momentum are not the same as Nazis or fascists or the EDL or UKIP. Behave yourself. If you want to lie in bed with the Right wingers in this country, at least have the balls to admit it instead of trying to justify it with this both sides nonsense.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: Sprotyrover on September 04, 2019, 10:23:03 pm
Sorry Macho the only group currently at the fore with silly racist views is firmly embedded in the left wing of Politics!
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 04, 2019, 11:00:54 pm
Sorry Macho the only group currently at the fore with silly racist views is firmly embedded in the left wing of Politics!

Well there's plenty of competition,but that might be the single most stupid comment in here on this topic.

The PM himself has a string of blatantly racist comments trailing behind him.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: bobjimwilly on September 09, 2019, 10:44:11 am
Sorry Macho the only group currently at the fore with silly racist views is firmly embedded in the left wing of Politics!

Can you share these racists views held by the left if they are so firmly embedded? I see myself as left leaning, but up to now I didn't know I was a racist?
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on September 09, 2019, 10:55:13 am
Sorry Macho the only group currently at the fore with silly racist views is firmly embedded in the left wing of Politics!

Can you share these racists views held by the left if they are so firmly embedded? I see myself as left leaning, but up to now I didn't know I was a racist?

You aren't as much as somebody to the right of centre isn't a racist either.  A racist is a racist no matter where they are on the political spectrum.
Title: Re: At least the fascists are being stopped somewhere
Post by: bobjimwilly on September 09, 2019, 05:47:39 pm
Sorry Macho the only group currently at the fore with silly racist views is firmly embedded in the left wing of Politics!

Can you share these racists views held by the left if they are so firmly embedded? I see myself as left leaning, but up to now I didn't know I was a racist?

You aren't as much as somebody to the right of centre isn't a racist either.  A racist is a racist no matter where they are on the political spectrum.

ok, a racist quote by a prominent politician or group on the left "at the fore" will do