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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Herbert Anchovy on November 26, 2019, 07:47:15 pm
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Just watched Jeremy Corbyn being interviewed by Andrew Neil. It has to one of the most brutal pieces of TV all year. JC came across as tetchy, evasive and at times exhausted by it all. He’s really not done himself any favours.
I bet Boris watched that and is shitting himself knowing that it’s his turn soon.
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Just waiting for people to now tell us on here that JC handled himself well and that the interviewer was Tory biased.
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Awful television all round. These one on one political interviews are invariably more about the interviewer than the interviewee (for Andrew Neil see Paxman or Morgan). Neil frenetically yelled out one question and then shouted the next one out during the answer, adding in his own unwelcome rhetoric at every opportunity. Corbyn failed in the main to convince in response (on the few occasions that Neil shut up, that is).
No bias on show, just an opportunity for Neil to shout out objectionably. He’ll do the same to all that face him. I don’t rate him, alas it seems many are entertained by that approach.
The outcome - poor viewing, nothing learned, I doubt anyone that watched it will change the opinion they had at the start of it.
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Don't see Boris doing well against neil either! If it's any consolation.
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Bang on Jonathan. Neil is very skilled at this, but the aim is not to educate. It's to trip up. It's the spirit of the age unfortunately. And that doesn't help the political atmosphere from any side. It just encourages this corrosive belief that they are all deceitful and incompetent.
I've seen Neil do this with politicians of all sides. And Humphries who was worse because he didn't have Neil's intellectual heft.
A try skilled interviewer gives an interviewer time and space to let their real personality come out. Like David Frost with Richard Nixon. Skilled interviewing is not about battering interviewees into defensiveness and mistakes.
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Good answers gents,straight out of the leaked Labour activists private whatsap group where even they acknowledged how bad he had been, and what responses to flood social with to negate the damage..
However lets start with Neil.Neil isn't interested in peoples personalities,he leaves that to Marr and Peston.Neil asks the questions that people want answering.Infact he asked the exact same question I asked on here earlier this week in how can Labour remain neutral during a second vote when the majority of his front bench, and over a 100 mp's have said they will campaign remain.Now Politicians when faced with a question they don't want to answer will try and skirt around it and he doesn't let them.He stops them and pushes them back on point and that's something I want,and a lot of the public want to see regardless of which Party it is.Which is why he's so popular..
On the interview itself,it was car crash telly and Corbyn had a very bad night.i thought he did okay in the leaders debate but this was awful.Anti Semitism,Brexit,tax and how he intended funding the black hole for waspi, he stumbled through looking like a rabbit in the headlights and failed to answer any of the direct points put at him and by the end he was toast.However I accept the point that Boris might not fair any better when he eventually commits to his turn in the chair...
If I was a labour supporter the finger pointing I would be doing this morning is not at Corbyn but at the researchers and campaign team who prepare him for these things.After yesterdays bad start to the day it was obvious what was coming especially on anti semitisism and he didn't look prepared for it.That has been a issue for Labour all campaign imo..
As for Jonathans point about nobody changing their opinion after that,yes you are probably right,but that's Labours problem.If they are to have a chance in this election they have to start changing people's minds because if their was a Election today chances are Boris will be PM and probably have a working majority...
However putting all that aside the most important thing that struck me about that whole interview was just how little grasp Corbyn actually has about his own party's fiscal policies,has he read his own manifesto??
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If he has he will probably vote conservative. After all he has over a million pounds savings to lose. Or do you think he will have squirrelled it abroad so the nasty people can't get their hands on it?
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Bang on Jonathan. Neil is very skilled at this, but the aim is not to educate. It's to trip up. It's the spirit of the age unfortunately. And that doesn't help the political atmosphere from any side. It just encourages this corrosive belief that they are all deceitful and incompetent.
I've seen Neil do this with politicians of all sides. And Humphries who was worse because he didn't have Neil's intellectual heft.
A try skilled interviewer gives an interviewer time and space to let their real personality come out. Like David Frost with Richard Nixon. Skilled interviewing is not about battering interviewees into defensiveness and mistakes.
Neil is constantly trying to set traps for whoever he is interviewing. It’s not particularly difficult to do when you control the interview, have time and a team of staff to prepare it and you pretty much know what answers the interviewee will give.
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Just got me thinking, that post did Gaz.
How Neil operates is like a prosecution barrister questioning a defence witness. As you say, it's all about setting traps and trying to discredit the interviewee.
If that's how courts operated, every single prosecution would end up with a guilty verdict.
If we were serious about trying to get to the bottom of parties' policies and leaders' beliefs, maybe we should have one interviewer whose job is to trip up and pick apart the interviewee (like Neil) and one whose job is to be on their side and pull out the positives.
Then let us, like a jury, decide.
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Which is kind of what we have isnt it? I've seen bits of the interviews and Neil is very good on some bits, I like the factual evidence he provides and this trips ALL of them up and youd think itll get Boris just as much.
It does show us how switched on some of the guys are, it let's us see what they're like when the pressure is on.
But, does it tell us what the policies are etc in detail? Not really hence whilst they have some use it's more on personality than policy.
Will it make much difference?probably not, I'd say most are set in their ways and those that aren't probably didnt see it.
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Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!
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Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!
Jew hater? Evidence?
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How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..
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Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!
Jew hater? Evidence?
The Daily Mail says so!!!!
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How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..
Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.
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Because, er, er, er, er, er, anyway, the Tories are selling the NHS don't you know.
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Those of you sitting at the edge of your seats to see our PM being grilled by Andrew Neil may be disappointed. It seems he’s still not agreed a date with the BBC. Auntie Beeb kept that quiet! Only a cynic would think that our glorious leader saw Sturgeon and Corbyn go through the mill and he’s shit himself!
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How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..
Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.
Don’t think they’ve said where it’s coming from have they? I’m buggered if I know where the funding will come from.
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How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..
Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.
Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.
Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html
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Well, Andrew Neil wouldn't have grilled Boris as much as the others anyway, would he? So at least it's saved Jezza and his fans from reflecting on the BBC prejudice!
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How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..
Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.
Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.
Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html
But those funds are for unexpected costs. If Corbyn is going to use them for part of his manifesto they become part of the expected cost. What if then he needs unexpected funds for something unexpected?
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BB.
Yep. Fair point. It's clearly an electioneering stunt. I don't question that.
See. You CAN do it, can't you?
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Well, Andrew Neil wouldn't have grilled Boris as much as the others anyway, would he? So at least it's saved Jezza and his fans from reflecting on the BBC prejudice!
Nah BB - Andrew Neil is undoubtably right wing but he’s always even handed in the rigour of his questioning whatever the political persuasion. He’d give Johnson a tough time and when you’re as incompetent & untrustworthy as Boris is it’ll always end in tears. Or put another way, he’s bottled it cos he’s crap!
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How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..
Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.
Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.
Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html
But those funds are for unexpected costs. If Corbyn is going to use them for part of his manifesto they become part of the expected cost. What if then he needs unexpected funds for something unexpected?
You mean like extra money for the DUP or money for that fake shipping company, or the exercise for operation stack?
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Boris has offered the 13th of December, Andrew Neal is thrilled he will have the first TV interview and can cross examine the newly elected prime minister.
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I think this topic will just go around in circles. I agree that Labour need to change minds to win seats and last night’s broadcast is unlikely to have changed any.
Is Jeremy Corbyn the ideal (or maybe I’ll say preferable) leader of the Labour Party? Not in my opinion, a stronger and more engaging leader would wipe the floor with the current government. That said, I really don’t see why Corbyn’s neutrality on Brexit presents such a big issue for some people. He’s explained his reasoning and logic. Whether you like it or have confidence in it or not is another matter, but the question was answered. Similar to the underlying theme here, most have made up their minds on Brexit regardless, so why do you need to know whether he would campaign to leave or remain? It won’t change an individual’s default position will it?
Is he racist or anti-Semitic? Of course he isn’t, but I would bet plenty of the people accusing him of being one or the other are.
If you dislike Corbyn and / or the Labour Party by default then I’m sure last nights so called “skewering” made for entertaining viewing. But I felt it added very little. Johnson, if he does accept the offer, will bluster through a similar skewering and nobody will change their mind as a result of it.
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Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!
Jew hater? Evidence?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-munich-olympics-massacre-wreath-laying#img-1
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Jeremy Jew hater shot his self in the foot when he refused to apologise for his parties racist behaviour to the Jewish Community.I will be watching the full interview tonight and will report back to you later! By the way he gave Sturgeon a hard time too! Boris Johnson I anticipate will be like the fat estate girl “yeah but, No but,yeah but!
Jew hater? Evidence?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-munich-olympics-massacre-wreath-laying#img-1
Theres no evidence there that he hates Jews
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There is evidence he lied about being part of it, unless there really boris Johnson’s hands on the wreath and it’s fake
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There is evidence he lied about being part of it, unless there really boris Johnson’s hands on the wreath and it’s fake
You see if you read the story and look beyond the headline, it says he was at a wreath laying ceremony for 190 victims of an Isreali air strike, the fact that the terrists graves were nearby was just slipped into the story
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How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..
Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.
Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.
Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html
I know that governments have to has reserve funds for emergencies BST but the WASPI court case was before Labour drew up their manifesto so they knew about it.
So, they drew up and allegedly costed everything.
The day after they then threw this thing about WASPi into the pot.
Why wasn't it included in their manifesto.
ps. I saw the attempted deflection at the end of your post.
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How can asking were 57 billion pounds is going to come from when it's not costed in the manifesto be called a trap?? Its a legitimate question he couldnt answer..
Wingco, don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response to that question.
I posed the same one a few days ago and conveniently, no one bothered to offer an answer.
Governments have reserve funds for unexpected costs. McDonnell has said that this will be the means of funding this. He said (rightly) that if the Govt had lost the court case on the WASPI funding, it would have had to find that money from reserves. he said (this is a political decision) that Labour would not have opposed the WASPI case, and would act as though the Govt HAD lost the case.
Meantime, I see Dominic Raab's Foreign Office is claiming legal costs against the parents of Harry Dunn.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-dunn-crash-death-parents-of-teenager-livid-at-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-for-pursuing-a4292266.html
But those funds are for unexpected costs. If Corbyn is going to use them for part of his manifesto they become part of the expected cost. What if then he needs unexpected funds for something unexpected?
You mean like extra money for the DUP or money for that fake shipping company, or the exercise for operation stack?
The DUP merger cost them £1 billion out of a pot of about £6 billion. That's a bit different to taking £57 billion out in stages of a £6 billion pot over 10 years. Corbyn will have just paid the WASPI funding off in time to introduce the four day week!
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Ha ha just watched the Full interview,Jezza went down like the Belgrano.
Is he a Toryspy?
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The question is simple.
When it comes down to it, if you believe piffle and vote for him...How will you look your children in the eyes if and when Corbyn is proved right.
Because it seems to me that the extra frenzied attempts to discredit him by wheeling out the head Rabbi and piffle's friend really ramped up after the ITV interview . As soon as he produced the redacted document the smears went into overdrive.
Here's another thought... Is this government the most duplicitous, conniving and morally corrupt group we have seen in our life time....... Or are they the most god awful failures at hiding their nature?
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Corbyn's already proved himself wrong.
https://youtu.be/8EySXP15S8k
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Those of you sitting at the edge of your seats to see our PM being grilled by Andrew Neil may be disappointed. It seems he’s still not agreed a date with the BBC. Auntie Beeb kept that quiet! Only a cynic would think that our glorious leader saw Sturgeon and Corbyn go through the mill and he’s shit himself!
Worse than that. BBC told Corbyn that all Leaders would be on one by one - but Johnson wasnt playing ball and the BBC forgot to tell all the others that he had said he would not be doing it
So they went ahead anyway
I keep seeing Cummings wife is tied up with this somehow. Does she work for Neal
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Ha ha just watched the Full interview,Jezza went down like the Belgrano.
Is he a Toryspy?
You do realise that your darling Boris still hasn’t committed to his interview don’t you? Have you ever thought to wonder why?
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The question is simple.
When it comes down to it, if you believe piffle and vote for him...How will you look your children in the eyes if and when Corbyn is proved right.
Because it seems to me that the extra frenzied attempts to discredit him by wheeling out the head Rabbi and piffle's friend really ramped up after the ITV interview . As soon as he produced the redacted document the smears went into overdrive.
Here's another thought... Is this government the most duplicitous, conniving and morally corrupt group we have seen in our life time....... Or are they the most god awful failures at hiding their nature?
The issue with your post is that Tory voters simply don’t care how morally corrupt their government is. They know they’re being lied to. They know the country is in a terrible state due to the Tory party. They know that Austerity is literally killing people....but because it’s not happening to them, they just don’t care!
It’s the I’m alright jack syndrome. “ A family surviving on food bank handouts? Bah, they probably deserve it.”
Back in the 80’s there was a saying that nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.
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The question is simple.
When it comes down to it, if you believe piffle and vote for him...How will you look your children in the eyes if and when Corbyn is proved right.
Because it seems to me that the extra frenzied attempts to discredit him by wheeling out the head Rabbi and piffle's friend really ramped up after the ITV interview . As soon as he produced the redacted document the smears went into overdrive.
Here's another thought... Is this government the most duplicitous, conniving and morally corrupt group we have seen in our life time....... Or are they the most god awful failures at hiding their nature?
The issue with your post is that Tory voters simply don’t care how morally corrupt their government is. They know they’re being lied to. They know the country is in a terrible state due to the Tory party. They know that Austerity is literally killing people....but because it’s not happening to them, they just don’t care!
It’s the I’m alright jack syndrome. “ A family surviving on food bank handouts? Bah, they probably deserve it.”
Back in the 80’s there was a saying that nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.
Who you quoting Herbert, Ann Scargill perchance?
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'nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.'
Love it Herbert !
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Herbert. If you think you're right with that verdict, there's no scope for discussion with you. You are as wrong now as you were back in the eighties.
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The question is simple.
When it comes down to it, if you believe piffle and vote for him...How will you look your children in the eyes if and when Corbyn is proved right.
Because it seems to me that the extra frenzied attempts to discredit him by wheeling out the head Rabbi and piffle's friend really ramped up after the ITV interview . As soon as he produced the redacted document the smears went into overdrive.
Here's another thought... Is this government the most duplicitous, conniving and morally corrupt group we have seen in our life time....... Or are they the most god awful failures at hiding their nature?
The issue with your post is that Tory voters simply don’t care how morally corrupt their government is. They know they’re being lied to. They know the country is in a terrible state due to the Tory party. They know that Austerity is literally killing people....but because it’s not happening to them, they just don’t care!
It’s the I’m alright jack syndrome. “ A family surviving on food bank handouts? Bah, they probably deserve it.”
Back in the 80’s there was a saying that nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.
Who you quoting Herbert, Ann Scargill perchance?
Not denying any of it though are you Sproty?
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Herbert. If you think you're right with that verdict, there's no scope for discussion with you. You are as wrong now as you were back in the eighties.
Plenty of scope for discussion on my part BB but I base my views on what I see as I travel around the country. The policies of the Tory Government are having a direct, negative impact on the lives of many, many vulnerable people in the UK. If people genuinely did care about the suffering of these people how could they possibly continue to vote for the party that is directly causing this? You only need to look at some of the dismissive comments made on these pages about people who rely on food banks to realise that there’s an element of self satisfaction in play because they’re not in that situation.
I find it baffling that anyone who would claim to have a social conscience would vote for a party that’s created so much misery.
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'nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.'
Come on Herbert who made the famous misquote! Dianne Abbot? King Arfur? Wolfe Smiff? Who perchance?
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At the end of the day, you are baffled by the majority. Have you ever thought of why that is?
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'nobody who votes Tory could possibly have any kind of social conscience. That’s quite apt for today too.'
Come on Herbert who made the famous misquote! Dianne Abbot? King Arfur? Wolfe Smiff? Who perchance?
And STILL not denying any of it Sproty!! Don’t tell me... someone was referring to you when the comment was made weren’t they! Where were you in ‘84 Sproty? Waving wads of cash at striking miners from the window of your Ford Sierra??
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God, there's so much to say about the 84 miners strike that hasn't come out. Well, I'm not ready to say owt now, I've got too long to live (hopefully), but one day....
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”Those who are panicking at the thought of Labour’s proposals may wish to ask themselves a question: why exactly does it seem obscene to take a little from those with so much, but natural to take so much from those with barely anything? In the end, what feels like class war to some is just equality to everyone else.“
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God, there's so much to say about the 84 miners strike that hasn't come out. Well, I'm not ready to say owt now, I've got too long to live (hopefully), but one day....
Maybe a royal commission would shine a light on it?
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”Those who are panicking at the thought of Labour’s proposals may wish to ask themselves a question: why exactly does it seem obscene to take a little from those with so much, but natural to take so much from those with barely anything? In the end, what feels like class war to some is just equality to everyone else.“
Careful Jonathan that could well be construed as treason in these parts. :)
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”Those who are panicking at the thought of Labour’s proposals may wish to ask themselves a question: why exactly does it seem obscene to take a little from those with so much, but natural to take so much from those with barely anything? In the end, what feels like class war to some is just equality to everyone else.“
Careful Jonathan that could well be construed as treason in these parts. :)
Why would it matter to people in Australia.
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God, there's so much to say about the 84 miners strike that hasn't come out. Well, I'm not ready to say owt now, I've got too long to live (hopefully), but one day....
Maybe a royal commission would shine a light on it?
You'll just have to read my autobiography, owd lad.
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”Those who are panicking at the thought of Labour’s proposals may wish to ask themselves a question: why exactly does it seem obscene to take a little from those with so much, but natural to take so much from those with barely anything? In the end, what feels like class war to some is just equality to everyone else.“
Careful Jonathan that could well be construed as treason in these parts. :)
Why would it matter to people in Australia.
I wondered when this card would be played from the bottom of the pack and who would play it?
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Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?
Apart from the lefties among you, like!
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Anyway, forget my autobiography, have you seen this yet?
https://youtu.be/8EySXP15S8k
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Sorry, BB, etc... What's your thoughts on food banks? What's your thoughts on the homeless numbers spiraling over the last 9 years?
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Donny what have labour said in there manifesto that will help get rid of food banks?they have said they will be rid of them in 5 years or be rid of poverty 1 of the 2, but have not said how or how they will pay for it, instead of offering free broadband and free dentist checks and free university they should have said how they will tackle the problem instead of free giveaways which no one believes. Homeless is very hard to judge I live in a relatively small area and there are 9 homeless people all very nice but none want to be helped they have all been offered help and everyone has turned it down, speaking to friends who work for a charity that’s the same in a lot of places, unfortunately many are drug dependent and unless agree to get help they can’t be re housed, anyone that has not been offered help or is homelessness not through drugs of course should be helped as no one should be homeless
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Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?
Apart from the lefties among you, like!
ok to play the man in your eyes? bb
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Sydney. I put up with a lot when it comes to understanding what the f**k you're on about, but in this case, I really don't understand. Go on then, enlighten me!
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Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?
Apart from the lefties among you, like!
Directly when you've explained what this is all about?
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Are you suggesting you've been racially abused?
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Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?
Apart from the lefties among you, like!
Directly when you've explained what this is all about?
I'm asking you (surprisingly) to answer the question bb?
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Ha ha just watched the Full interview,Jezza went down like the Belgrano.
Is he a Toryspy?
I suppose that you would be just as happy to hear a German use the same analogy about HMS Hood or an Argentinian gloating about our ships lost at the Falklands?
I suppose thatnas the majority will have been working class men it doesn't matter?
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Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?
Apart from the lefties among you, like!
Directly when you've explained what this is all about?
I'm asking you (surprisingly) to answer the question bb?
Knowing BB, methinks you'll be waiting a long time....
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At the end of the day, you are baffled by the majority. Have you ever thought of why that is?
It's not a majority. 42% of the vote will quite possibly get Johnson 55% of the seats.
There's not been a majority supporting the Tories in a General Election since 1931 which was a very particular election.
From a quick skim, the last time there was an opinion poll showing the Tories having a majority of voters supporting them was in 1982, immediately after the Falklands War.
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I was referring to the winning margin.
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Sydney, haven't you noticed, we're all racist here?
Apart from the lefties among you, like!
Directly when you've explained what this is all about?
I'm asking you (surprisingly) to answer the question bb?
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I was referring to the winning margin.
I'm sure that made sense to you when you said "you're baffled by the majority".
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Those of you sitting at the edge of your seats to see our PM being grilled by Andrew Neil may be disappointed. It seems he’s still not agreed a date with the BBC. Auntie Beeb kept that quiet! Only a cynic would think that our glorious leader saw Sturgeon and Corbyn go through the mill and he’s shit himself!
Yeah but, no but, yeah but! There done it for him!
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Ha ha just watched the Full interview,Jezza went down like the Belgrano.
Is he a Toryspy?
I suppose that you would be just as happy to hear a German use the same analogy about HMS Hood or an Argentinian gloating about our ships lost at the Falklands?
I suppose thatnas the majority will have been working class men it doesn't matter?
I doubt any German with a nounce of history would use the expression went down like the Hood,the Hood exploded!
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Spaffman to be empty chaired by Ch4 tonight (7pm) if he will not turn up for the climate debate.
The plan appears to be keep him off the air unless to do scripted interviews with Laura, or photo ops with resentful NHS staff.
The media landscape has moved firmly into the world of lobbying.
Journalist James O’Brien nailed everything that’s wrong with the establishment media:
If the chairman of the Spectator (@afneil) really can’t get an interview with the ex-editor of the Spectator (@BorisJohnson), he could always ask the current deputy editor to have a word with her husband (Dominic Cummings). Barclay brothers permitting, of course. #bbcimpartiality
— James O'Brien (@mrjamesob) November 27, 2019
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Donny what have labour said in there manifesto that will help get rid of food banks?they have said they will be rid of them in 5 years or be rid of poverty 1 of the 2, but have not said how or how they will pay for it, instead of offering free broadband and free dentist checks and free university they should have said how they will tackle the problem instead of free giveaways which no one believes. Homeless is very hard to judge I live in a relatively small area and there are 9 homeless people all very nice but none want to be helped they have all been offered help and everyone has turned it down, speaking to friends who work for a charity that’s the same in a lot of places, unfortunately many are drug dependent and unless agree to get help they can’t be re housed, anyone that has not been offered help or is homelessness not through drugs of course should be helped as no one should be homeless
bpool - what the Tories said in their manifesto to alleviate poverty and remove foodbanks?
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Ha ha just watched the Full interview,Jezza went down like the Belgrano.
Is he a Toryspy?
I suppose that you would be just as happy to hear a German use the same analogy about HMS Hood or an Argentinian gloating about our ships lost at the Falklands?
I suppose thatnas the majority will have been working class men it doesn't matter?
I doubt any German with a nounce of history would use the expression went down like the Hood,the Hood exploded!
Ok. I know that the Hood sank when the magazine exploded I should maybe have used one of the other ships as an example.
My wife has two cousins that were in the SAS in the Falklands. One was the only SAS member to get out of that helicopter that sank with all of his mates in. I'm sure that he would enjoy your comment.
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Jo Swinson’s turn on Andrew Neil tonight. He tore her apart on her Brexit stance and her voting record while in the coalition. She played it with a fairly straight bat though and even though she cane out of it badly, she probably did better than Corbyn, simply by apologising (unsure if it was genuine).
Meanwhile, still no sign of Boris!!