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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: SydneyRover on December 15, 2019, 12:30:18 am
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An existential threat to the world, the health of your kids their kids, a threat to your home, flooded out, insurance too expensive. Food and clean water will increase in cost. Australia is in severe drought with wild fires here the US and Europe, peat fires in UK national parks. Erosion of coastline the list couldn't be more dramatic.
http://theconversation.com/what-boris-johnsons-government-needs-to-do-to-show-it-is-serious-on-climate-change-128885
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An existential threat to the world, the health of your kids their kids, a threat to your home, flooded out, insurance too expensive. Food and clean water will increase in cost. Australia is in severe drought with wild fires here the US and Europe, peat fires in UK national parks. Erosion of coastline the list couldn't be more dramatic.
http://theconversation.com/what-boris-johnsons-government-needs-to-do-to-show-it-is-serious-on-climate-change-128885
Never mind what the Government is doing about it Sydney, what are YOU doing about it? I mean, look at me; I no longer smoke, no longer run a car, and no longer use airlines.
You have to admit, my carbon footprint is practically non-existent. Is your's?
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Steve, if his darlings had won on Thursday this thread wouldn’t be on here.
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Is every developed country on board with 2050 date of net zero carbon emissions? We are a very small fish when you consider America and China what they do to the environment.
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I'm not sure why people with such strong and dedicated to the cause views don't put into practise the principles they preach.
https://medium.com/wedonthavetime/guest-blog-post-the-alarming-environmental-impact-of-the-internet-and-how-you-can-help-6ff892b8730d
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Thanks Padge. I was looking for a reason to do nothing and now you have provided it for me.
Unfortunately though your attitude wont stop the ice caps melting. Which wont stop sea levels rising. Which wont stop a greater occurrence of flooding in low-level areas like Doncaster. Nor will it stop the rise in air pollution from noxious gases around our towns and cities - and the associated health problems they bring.
In answer to Sydney's OP I reckon the answer is not very much. Seeing how some of their major donors are connected with the fossil fuel industry (worldwide) and thus responsible for climate change. Perhaps Padge knows them?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-general-election-campaign-fossil-fuel-climate-change-emergency-a9242016.html
https://www.desmog.co.uk/2019/11/25/revealed-super-wealthy-tory-donors-ties-climate-science-denial-and-fossil-fuels
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Thanks Padge. I was looking for a reason to do nothing and now you have provided it for me.
Unfortunately though your attitude wont stop the ice caps melting. Which wont stop sea levels rising. Which wont stop a greater occurrence of flooding in low-level areas like Doncaster. Nor will it stop the rise in air pollution from noxious gases around our towns and cities - and the associated health problems they bring.
In answer to Sydney's OP I reckon the answer is not very much. Seeing how some of their major donors are connected with the fossil fuel industry (worldwide) and thus responsible for climate change. Perhaps Padge knows them?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-general-election-campaign-fossil-fuel-climate-change-emergency-a9242016.html
https://www.desmog.co.uk/2019/11/25/revealed-super-wealthy-tory-donors-ties-climate-science-denial-and-fossil-fuels
I'm all for stopping climate change. It annoys me just at work he now have 2 bins on each floor. 1 for recycling and literally anything is thrown in either lazily.
The attitude of China and America means they are going to ruin the world.
It also sounds like Brazil and India don't give a shit either after today!
Ban on petrol and diesel cars is too late IMO as well.
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I'm not sure why people with such strong and dedicated to the cause views don't put into practise the principles they preach.
https://medium.com/wedonthavetime/guest-blog-post-the-alarming-environmental-impact-of-the-internet-and-how-you-can-help-6ff892b8730d
it’s surprising how come no one answered your post really as we all use the internet so much
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The forum has been a lot quieter than usual tonight though.
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Did you bp?
I do whan I can where I can but responsibility for the direction of the country lies with the 'leader' to bring and implement policy the the country can folow that but bring it to a carbon neutral position. Its policy on renewables, mining, waste, transport etc that will decide the future.
Think of it like the the head/s of the household if the head of the household drinks, smokes and gambles it's more than likely that the kids will too.
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Did you bp?
I do whan I can where I can but responsibility for the direction of the country lies with the 'leader' to bring and implement policy the the country can folow that but bring it to a carbon neutral position. Its policy on renewables, mining, waste, transport etc that will decide the future.
Think of it like the the head/s of the household if the head of the household drinks, smokes and gambles it's more than likely that the kids will too.
Sorry but I cant agree, responsibility is on everyone. If the leader jumped off a bridge you wouldn't follow.
I think we all have a responsibility to think and act. I also think business has a huge responsibility to be sustainable.
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Did you bp?
I do whan I can where I can but responsibility for the direction of the country lies with the 'leader' to bring and implement policy the the country can folow that but bring it to a carbon neutral position. Its policy on renewables, mining, waste, transport etc that will decide the future.
Think of it like the the head/s of the household if the head of the household drinks, smokes and gambles it's more than likely that the kids will too.
yes I did and to a point you are right Sydney I personally am trying to do a bit more, but like everyone else need to do more, but whatever boris says or corbyn would have said is not going to change things unless every person takes responsibility not just relying on a leader putting things in place
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Did you bp?
I do whan I can where I can but responsibility for the direction of the country lies with the 'leader' to bring and implement policy the the country can folow that but bring it to a carbon neutral position. Its policy on renewables, mining, waste, transport etc that will decide the future.
Think of it like the the head/s of the household if the head of the household drinks, smokes and gambles it's more than likely that the kids will too.
yes I did and to a point you are right Sydney I personally am trying to do a bit more, but like everyone else need to do more, but whatever boris says or corbyn would have said is not going to change things unless every person takes responsibility not just relying on a leader putting things in place
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Sadly we are a very small fish when it comes to pollution,China,India,Philippines, Brazil, the US all seem to be carrying on regardless.
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Did you bp?
I do whan I can where I can but responsibility for the direction of the country lies with the 'leader' to bring and implement policy the the country can folow that but bring it to a carbon neutral position. Its policy on renewables, mining, waste, transport etc that will decide the future.
Think of it like the the head/s of the household if the head of the household drinks, smokes and gambles it's more than likely that the kids will too.
Sorry but I cant agree, responsibility is on everyone. If the leader jumped off a bridge you wouldn't follow.
I think we all have a responsibility to think and act. I also think business has a huge responsibility to be sustainable.
Where did I say it wasn't bfyp?
So what was all the fuss about Corbyn :)
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Boris has already alleviated the devastating threat of Corbyn Monoxide.
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I'm not sure why people with such strong and dedicated to the cause views don't put into practise the principles they preach.
https://medium.com/wedonthavetime/guest-blog-post-the-alarming-environmental-impact-of-the-internet-and-how-you-can-help-6ff892b8730d
it’s surprising how come no one answered your post really as we all use the internet so much
It's surprising how no one's answered the question that is the title of the thread.
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Its a simple answer - NOWT .
Fracking to start again ASAP to resume lining the public schoolboy's pockets
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I've done my bit and am awaiting delivery of a new 4x4.
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The Capitalists won't change anything. It's plainly obvious we are on the road to hell.
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The gift that keeps giving, here is our contribution to climate change!
My nephew is doing a renewable energy degree at Brighton University he told me that the North Sea is a superb location for wind power production and he stated last month that by 2050 The North Sea would be Providing 40% of Europes Power.
This week the Crown Estate auctioned off licenses to power companies to develop Dogger Bank,that has generated a nice windfall (cough cough) for the treasury. Also this week it was announced that the price of wind power development has fallen by two thirds to £40 per Watt/ hour Hinckley point is costing roughly £80 an hour.this means that future development of the North Sea wind power industry will not cost us the U.K. Taxpayer a single penny what it means in real terms
Is that by 2045 The North Sea wind power hub will be producing enough electrics to supply 126 million homes! There are currently 25 million homes in the U.K.
So as far as I'm concerned roll on Brexit!
If the Jocks want to go let them! Although they would be daft to do so!
Same for the Welsh! . Stay in the Union and help us 'Milk' the EU! The remainder of the Eu can pay through the nose for their electricity!
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
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Axholme Lion, I am the same as you buddy, just bought two add blue diesel top of the range cars, pre registered 70 miles on the clock one month old half price. Well you have to don't you? the poor old car sales men are starving, and the saving 2 for the price of one buys a lot of diesel.
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
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There you go mate:
Seabed ownership and rights
Ownership of the seabed and sovereign rights
The seabed to 12 nautical miles is largely owned by the Crown and managed on its behalf by the Crown Estate Commissioners as is much of the foreshore. The remainder is in a mixture of public and private ownership.
Beyond the 12 nautical mile limit the seabed is ownerless but various government bodies have sovereign rights over marine resources to the edge of the continental shelf and the 200 nautical mile limit (the exclusive economic zone). The Department for Energy and Climate Change have responsibility for oil and gas, and the Crown Estate for offshore wind.
Under s 40 of the Natural Environment and Rural Communities Act 2006 public bodies such as the Crown Estate have a duty to have regard for the conservation of biodiversity in exercising their functions, which would include exercising their ownership function.
The ownership of the UK’s marine fishing rights has not been confirmed by statute but under the common law is regarded as owned by the Crown on behalf of the public.
Legislation
United Nations Convention on the Laws of the Sea II
The Crown Estate Act 1961
The Continental Shelf Act 1964
The Territorial Sea Act 1987
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
I think you will find it isn't - according to the company developing the wind farms
https://doggerbank.com/
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There you go mate:
Seabed ownership and rights
Ownership of the seabed and sovereign rights
The seabed to 12 nautical miles is largely owned by the Crown and managed on its behalf by the Crown Estate Commissioners as is much of the foreshore. The remainder is in a mixture of public and private ownership.
Beyond the 12 nautical mile limit the seabed is ownerless but various government bodies have sovereign rights over marine resources to the edge of the continental shelf and the 200 nautical mile limit (the exclusive economic zone). The Department for Energy and Climate Change have responsibility for oil and gas, and the Crown Estate for offshore wind.
Under s 40 of the Natural Environment and Rural Communities Act 2006 public bodies such as the Crown Estate have a duty to have regard for the conservation of biodiversity in exercising their functions, which would include exercising their ownership function.
The ownership of the UK’s marine fishing rights has not been confirmed by statute but under the common law is regarded as owned by the Crown on behalf of the public.
Legislation
United Nations Convention on the Laws of the Sea II
The Crown Estate Act 1961
The Continental Shelf Act 1964
The Territorial Sea Act 1987
If we had a decent sized Navy we could take as much of the sea as we wanted to. Who's going to do anything about it?
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
Was my post too long for your limited attention span, Sproty? If so, I'll take the trouble to help you out, I said THE NORTH SEA. Or does the north sea only extend to twelve miles from our coast?
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I'm not sure why people with such strong and dedicated to the cause views don't put into practise the principles they preach.
https://medium.com/wedonthavetime/guest-blog-post-the-alarming-environmental-impact-of-the-internet-and-how-you-can-help-6ff892b8730d
it’s surprising how come no one answered your post really as we all use the internet so much
It's surprising how no one's answered the question that is the title of the thread.
You need to ask that question to some one inGovernment!
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
Was my post too long for your limited attention span, Sproty? If so, I'll take the trouble to help you out, I said THE NORTH SEA. Or does the north sea only extend to twelve miles from our coast?
Dont' like the tone of your post mate!
Here is a map of what we own.
https://www.bgs.ac.uk/mineralsuk/images/planning/offshore.gif
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
I think you will find it isn't - according to the company developing the wind farms
https://doggerbank.com/
The Goverment has sold development licences as per this
Dogger Bank Wind Farm is a proposed group of offshore wind farms to be located between 125 to 290 kilometres (78 to 180 mi) off the east coast of Yorkshire, in the North Sea, England.[1] It is being developed by the Forewind consortium. It is expected that the Dogger Bank development will consist of four offshore wind farms, each with a capacity of up to 1.2 GW, creating a combined capacity of 4.8 GW. Planning consent for the first phase of the project (Creyke Beck A and Creyke Beck B) was granted by the UK government in February 2015, and consent for the second phase (Teesside A and Teesside B) was granted in August 2015.
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
I think you will find it isn't - according to the company developing the wind farms
https://doggerbank.com/
The Goverment has sold development licences as per this
Dogger Bank Wind Farm is a proposed group of offshore wind farms to be located between 125 to 290 kilometres (78 to 180 mi) off the east coast of Yorkshire, in the North Sea, England.[1] It is being developed by the Forewind consortium. It is expected that the Dogger Bank development will consist of four offshore wind farms, each with a capacity of up to 1.2 GW, creating a combined capacity of 4.8 GW. Planning consent for the first phase of the project (Creyke Beck A and Creyke Beck B) was granted by the UK government in February 2015, and consent for the second phase (Teesside A and Teesside B) was granted in August 2015.
Project Location
Dogger Bank sits as an isolated topographic high within the central to southern North Sea spanning UK, German, Danish and Dutch waters.
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I thought Dogger Bank was where the swingers met up down the straight mile at the racecourse.
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I'm not sure why people with such strong and dedicated to the cause views don't put into practise the principles they preach.
https://medium.com/wedonthavetime/guest-blog-post-the-alarming-environmental-impact-of-the-internet-and-how-you-can-help-6ff892b8730d
it’s surprising how come no one answered your post really as we all use the internet so much
It's surprising how no one's answered the question that is the title of the thread.
You need to ask that question to some one inGovernment!
So in 2019 people weren't voting based at all on climate change? Awesome. We're f*cked.
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
I think you will find it isn't - according to the company developing the wind farms
https://doggerbank.com/
The Goverment has sold development licences as per this
Dogger Bank Wind Farm is a proposed group of offshore wind farms to be located between 125 to 290 kilometres (78 to 180 mi) off the east coast of Yorkshire, in the North Sea, England.[1] It is being developed by the Forewind consortium. It is expected that the Dogger Bank development will consist of four offshore wind farms, each with a capacity of up to 1.2 GW, creating a combined capacity of 4.8 GW. Planning consent for the first phase of the project (Creyke Beck A and Creyke Beck B) was granted by the UK government in February 2015, and consent for the second phase (Teesside A and Teesside B) was granted in August 2015.
Project Location
Dogger Bank sits as an isolated topographic high within the central to southern North Sea spanning UK, German, Danish and Dutch waters.
And two thirds of it are in UK waters what is the issue?
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
I think you will find it isn't - according to the company developing the wind farms
https://doggerbank.com/
The Goverment has sold development licences as per this
Dogger Bank Wind Farm is a proposed group of offshore wind farms to be located between 125 to 290 kilometres (78 to 180 mi) off the east coast of Yorkshire, in the North Sea, England.[1] It is being developed by the Forewind consortium. It is expected that the Dogger Bank development will consist of four offshore wind farms, each with a capacity of up to 1.2 GW, creating a combined capacity of 4.8 GW. Planning consent for the first phase of the project (Creyke Beck A and Creyke Beck B) was granted by the UK government in February 2015, and consent for the second phase (Teesside A and Teesside B) was granted in August 2015.
Project Location
Dogger Bank sits as an isolated topographic high within the central to southern North Sea spanning UK, German, Danish and Dutch waters.
And two thirds of it are in UK waters what is the issue?
Some bloke seemed to infer it was all in UK waters and being built on crown estate territory - I will just go and check who it was...
See it is important to be accurate about things things. It is not a UK project - it is a pan-European one. The electricity generated is not soley for UK homes - it will be connected to the Dutch, Danish and German grids.
So when people say stuff like:
Is that by 2045 The North Sea wind power hub will be producing enough electrics to supply 126 million homes! There are currently 25 million homes in the U.K.
So as far as I'm concerned roll on Brexit!
If the Jocks want to go let them! Although they would be daft to do so!
Same for the Welsh! . Stay in the Union and help us 'Milk' the EU! The remainder of the Eu can pay through the nose for their electricity!
you are misleading people. The remainder of the EU wont be paying through the nose for their electricity - they are partners in this project to generate it
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The north sea doesn't belong to us Sporty.
I think you will find that Dogger Bank is owned by the Crown estate.
I think you will find it isn't - according to the company developing the wind farms
https://doggerbank.com/
The Goverment has sold development licences as per this
Dogger Bank Wind Farm is a proposed group of offshore wind farms to be located between 125 to 290 kilometres (78 to 180 mi) off the east coast of Yorkshire, in the North Sea, England.[1] It is being developed by the Forewind consortium. It is expected that the Dogger Bank development will consist of four offshore wind farms, each with a capacity of up to 1.2 GW, creating a combined capacity of 4.8 GW. Planning consent for the first phase of the project (Creyke Beck A and Creyke Beck B) was granted by the UK government in February 2015, and consent for the second phase (Teesside A and Teesside B) was granted in August 2015.
Project Location
Dogger Bank sits as an isolated topographic high within the central to southern North Sea spanning UK, German, Danish and Dutch waters.
And two thirds of it are in UK waters what is the issue?
Some bloke seemed to infer it was all in UK waters and being built on crown estate territory - I will just go and check who it was...
See it is important to be accurate about things things. It is not a UK project - it is a pan-European one. The electricity generated is not soley for UK homes - it will be connected to the Dutch, Danish and German grids.
So when people say stuff like:
Is that by 2045 The North Sea wind power hub will be producing enough electrics to supply 126 million homes! There are currently 25 million homes in the U.K.
So as far as I'm concerned roll on Brexit!
If the Jocks want to go let them! Although they would be daft to do so!
Same for the Welsh! . Stay in the Union and help us 'Milk' the EU! The remainder of the Eu can pay through the nose for their electricity!
you are misleading people. The remainder of the EU wont be paying through the nose for their electricity - they are partners in this project to generate it
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2 thirds of it is uk territoy, do the math,does the UK govt make anything out of the Norwegian oil fields..no!
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Of all the things you could have gotten nationalistic about in this day and age (Terrorism, immigration,Brexit) you choose renewable energy? Quite a choice that.
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To be fair CiM, it has made a change not to read about Brexit and immigration on here.