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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: glosterred on December 19, 2019, 02:33:30 pm
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Seems cheery this morning
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/1207611036498616320
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Seems cheery this morning
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/1207611036498616320
Face like a smacked arse this morning. Reality's kicking in now.
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Anybody would think he'd run away and hidden like a coward instead of being interviewed by Andrew Neil.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/1207725550426558465
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Whatever happens I put my country above any party and just hope that some of those that are crowing now are as happy in five years time.
I will be very happy too if you are.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/1207725550426558465
Brilliant.
Nearly as funny as that video they faked of EU Brexit negotiators. Or that poster of Merkel looking like Hitler with the words "We didn't win two world wars to be pushed around by a Kraut".
Bunch of lying, nasty bas**rds. City spivs, barrow boys and neo-fascist gentry. And you lot think they're on your side...
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Whatever happens I put my country above any party and just hope that some of those that are crowing now are as happy in five years time.
I will be very happy too if you are.
Come on Idler mate, aren't we entitled to a bit of a crow when we've been called from a pig to a dog for 3 and a half years?
The best line of that video was "Did you think we could call them all racists and stupid and they'd still vote for us?" That summed up the exact reason for that trouncing last Thursday, and unless Labour changes it's attitude to it's hardcore Northern voters, they'll get the same again in 4 years time.
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Another exact reason Steve?
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Another exact reason Steve?
Another? I've always maintained their attitude towards Brexit would be their downfall.
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But according to the polls, it was not the primary reason that ex-Labour voters didn't vote Labour this time.
https://mobile.twitter.com/opiniumresearch/status/1205510937995812864
And even among those who DID desert Labour over Brexit, more defected to the SNP, LDs and Greens than went to the Tories or Brexit Party.
For what it's worth (and it's not worth much) when I was out canvassing, among folk who were definitely not going to vote Labour, 2-3 said Corbyn was the reason for every 1 who said it was Brexit. That ties in with that Ooinium data, and with the other pre-Election polls that consistently had him as the most unpopular Leader of the Opposition since records began.
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Whatever happens I put my country above any party and just hope that some of those that are crowing now are as happy in five years time.
I will be very happy too if you are.
Come on Idler mate, aren't we entitled to a bit of a crow when we've been called from a pig to a dog for 3 and a half years?
The best line of that video was "Did you think we could call them all racists and stupid and they'd still vote for us?" That summed up the exact reason for that trouncing last Thursday, and unless Labour changes it's attitude to it's hardcore Northern voters, they'll get the same again in 4 years time.
Your football date is pretty good at handing out personal abuse along with a few others and his last post I read he wanted to escalate it to the physical so your side are not exacty clean skins aye?
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lol
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Sydney our of all the people I have ever spoke to about politics you are the most obsessed, you demand answers you post link after link to try support your way of thinking, you are clearly a clever man but your obsession turns people away from your way of thinking this is all my opinion of course
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As I've said before bp I'm just holding up the mirror, I can't help it if you don't like what you see.
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Sydney our of all the people I have ever spoke to about politics you are the most obsessed, you demand answers you post link after link to try support your way of thinking, you are clearly a clever man but your obsession turns people away from your way of thinking this is all my opinion of course
That sounds like you think people are more likely to take heed of someone who says f**k all. No wonder Boris won.
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But according to the polls, it was not the primary reason that ex-Labour voters didn't vote Labour this time.
https://mobile.twitter.com/opiniumresearch/status/1205510937995812864
And even among those who DID desert Labour over Brexit, more defected to the SNP, LDs and Greens than went to the Tories or Brexit Party.
For what it's worth (and it's not worth much) when I was out canvassing, among folk who were definitely not going to vote Labour, 2-3 said Corbyn was the reason for every 1 who said it was Brexit. That ties in with that Ooinium data, and with the other pre-Election polls that consistently had him as the most unpopular Leader of the Opposition since records began.
The signs for that were there a long, long time ago. Everyone conveniently got even his own MPs wanted rid of him but the members did not. Again, I still don't see any signs that members want to think about how to change and thus ultimately how to win....
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Corbyn might appear understandably irritable in the circumstances. Dominic Raab, on the other hand, is clearly loving talk of famine and destitution...
https://twitter.com/rachael_swindon/status/1207702784021291008?s=21
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Sydney our of all the people I have ever spoke to about politics you are the most obsessed, you demand answers you post link after link to try support your way of thinking, you are clearly a clever man but your obsession turns people away from your way of thinking this is all my opinion of course
So, you prefer lies, sound-bites and buzz words to facts then BP?
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I told you months ago, his future is down at the allotment planting out and talking to the onions.
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Sydney our of all the people I have ever spoke to about politics you are the most obsessed, you demand answers you post link after link to try support your way of thinking, you are clearly a clever man but your obsession turns people away from your way of thinking this is all my opinion of course
So, you prefer lies, sound-bites and buzz words to facts then BB?
The majority do.
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You obviously don't like Corbyn selby but most of his policies would make the UK a better place to live than those of Cumming's and I would have trusted a Corbyn government more than johnson to actually implement them, most of the complaints about him appear to be because he and his advisors lost the election which is undeniable.
Johnson will have to turn the tory policy machine around 180 degrees to achieve anything and he hasn't even started yet, he will have to spend more money than he and his party have lost to the country because of the dumb Austerity/brexit uncertainty and due to brexit he will have less to play with in the future. So wait for a massive blow-out of the deficit something the tories were so precious about and wait for all the excuses. The NHS, johnson has said he'll pump money back into it which he'll need to to make up for the lack of funding over the last 9+years but he didn't say once that he'll bring the NHS back into public ownership.
Stick to selling used cars selby
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Corbyn might appear understandably irritable in the circumstances. Dominic Raab, on the other hand, is clearly loving talk of famine and destitution...
https://twitter.com/rachael_swindon/status/1207702784021291008?s=21
And it looks like Abbott has nodded off!
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Seems cheery this morning
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/1207611036498616320
Face like a smacked arse this morning. Reality's kicking in now.
This gloating is not a good look steve.
What goes around comes around.
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Seems cheery this morning
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/1207611036498616320
Face like a smacked arse this morning. Reality's kicking in now.
This gloating is not a good look steve.
What goes around comes around.
Who's gloating Pancho? Go back and look at my posts on the night of the Election result.
Also, what's coming around? We're leaving the EU.
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You can be the first to tell us why leaving the EU is a good Steve, you'll be a star no one else has.
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Corbyn might appear understandably irritable in the circumstances. Dominic Raab, on the other hand, is clearly loving talk of famine and destitution...
https://twitter.com/rachael_swindon/status/1207702784021291008?s=21
And it looks like Abbott has nodded off!
A bit like Rees Mogg then
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I didn't mean to imply that you're not a star already Steve but it has to be good, leaving the EU that is, it's already split the country down the middle, cost 120bn as far with much more to come, it must be huge, the benefits must be too big to calculate not sure why it's been kept under wraps this long, the anticipation is palpable, street parties, marching bands, can't wait for the off :)
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I didn't mean to imply that you're not a star already Steve but it has to be good, leaving the EU that is, it's already split the country down the middle, cost 120bn as far with much more to come, it must be huge, the benefits must be too big to calculate not sure why it's been kept under wraps this long, the anticipation is palpable, street parties, marching bands, can't wait for the off :)
I'm glad you recognise that I'm a star Sydney.x
As I've said many times, there's only one person to blame for the country being split down the middle, and that's David Cameron.
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Can't disagree with that Steve, can you imagine what it will be like on the day, the editorials are probably ready to go, you know like the obituary files.
''The UK dumps the hugest richest trading bloc the world has ever seen to strike out alone and unleash it's potential, the financial world trembles in fear because brexit means ............ brexit''
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He’s not listened to the people has he
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-corbyn-proposes-two-year-delay-to-prevent-no-deal-11900001
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He’s not listened to the people has he
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-corbyn-proposes-two-year-delay-to-prevent-no-deal-11900001
And they wonder why the vast majority of the country wouldn't trust them to run a bath.
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errr. Yes he has. The majority of the British public do not support a no deal brexit.
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Glos
There has never, ever, on any vote or opinion poll, been a majority for No Deal. Johnson is once again playing with fire in saying we will leave, deal or not, in December. If he DOES plan to take us out with No Deal in December, that would be a democratic outrage, and should be resisted by everyone who respects democracy.
So I don't really get your point.
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The point is people want out, that’s what they voted for, probably 3 times now. They are sick of delays, they want out and they don’t want anymore enforced delays. That’s my point.
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Correct. it's just another anti democratic ploy to stop the will of the people.
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It's the last token gesture of a fanatic trying to stay relevant. Wont be anywhere near getting the numbers to pass
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The point is people want out, that’s what they voted for, probably 3 times now. They are sick of delays, they want out and they don’t want anymore enforced delays. That’s my point.
And you are going to get that before the end of next month. We will have left the EU before 31 Jan.
The deal with the EU is a separate thing altogether.
The lack of understanding on the topic is terrifying.
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It's the last token gesture of a fanatic trying to stay relevant. Wont be anywhere near getting the numbers to pass
It's political, there's no doubt about that. It's about keeping the issue of No Deal in the spotlight, and holding the Govt to account if they try to take us into No Deal territory which would be seriously damaging to the country, and for which there is no democratic mandate.
It's what Oppositions do in a functioning democracy. Unfortunately, our democracy has been so badly weakened by this whole process that all people see is bad faith in every action.
I thought you were smarter than that Ldr. I expect this sort of ignorant b*llocks from AL, but I thought you were better.
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The point is people want out, that’s what they voted for, probably 3 times now. They are sick of delays, they want out and they don’t want anymore enforced delays. That’s my point.
And you are going to get that before the end of next month. We will have left the EU before 31 Jan.
The deal with the EU is a separate thing altogether.
The lack of understanding on the topic is terrifying.
h
What I find terrifying is your willingness to not understand what the people want. They want out they don’t want to be locked in for 2 more years. What happens in 2 years if there is no deal do we have another 2 year delay? Taking no deal off the table was the biggest mistake of all! Taking it off the table meant that the EU didn’t have to do anything as they knew we’d would not leave, that is what they wanted.
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It's the last token gesture of a fanatic trying to stay relevant. Wont be anywhere near getting the numbers to pass
It's political, there's no doubt about that. It's about keeping the issue of No Deal in the spotlight, and holding the Govt to account if they try to take us into No Deal territory which would be seriously damaging to the country, and for which there is no democratic mandate.
It's what Oppositions do in a functioning democracy. Unfortunately, our democracy has been so badly weakened by this whole process that all people see is bad faith in every action.
I thought you were smarter than that Ldr. I expect this sort of ignorant b*llocks from AL, but I thought you were better.
That's uncalled for BST. He knows it has no chance of passing. He may as well have called an amendment to claim ownership of the moon. It's pure fantasy from someone trying to stay in the spotlight despite leading his party to a train wreck. He should have gone immediately and let the rebuilding commence
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Glosterred and Ldr will now be able to tell us the virtues of having no trade agreement in place by June 2020. Seems they support it so passionately.
Over to you lads.
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Where have I said that?
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Some people clearly don't understand what No Deal means for the country, to be that indifferent to it.
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The point is people want out, that’s what they voted for, probably 3 times now. They are sick of delays, they want out and they don’t want anymore enforced delays. That’s my point.
To be fair the majority of the people voted for Soft/No Brexit parties at the GE and also in the EU election.
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It's the last token gesture of a fanatic trying to stay relevant. Wont be anywhere near getting the numbers to pass
It's political, there's no doubt about that. It's about keeping the issue of No Deal in the spotlight, and holding the Govt to account if they try to take us into No Deal territory which would be seriously damaging to the country, and for which there is no democratic mandate.
It's what Oppositions do in a functioning democracy. Unfortunately, our democracy has been so badly weakened by this whole process that all people see is bad faith in every action.
I thought you were smarter than that Ldr. I expect this sort of ignorant b*llocks from AL, but I thought you were better.
That's uncalled for BST. He knows it has no chance of passing. He may as well have called an amendment to claim ownership of the moon. It's pure fantasy from someone trying to stay in the spotlight despite leading his party to a train wreck. He should have gone immediately and let the rebuilding commence
Ldr.
He is the Leader of the Opposition. Opposition parties have a right and in fact a DUTY, to highlight Government actions that may cause problems for the country.
What you are saying is that he should a fixate that role before an alternative LotO has been elected, and therefore leave the Govt unopposed.
That is absolutely NOT how our Parliamentary system is supposed to work. And I'm surprised that you don't get that.
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I told you months ago BST, his next big decision will be where his onions should be planted in his allotment.
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No Deal Brexit is going to be bad for the UK. Worse for us than the EU. Anyone who denies this either doesn’t know what it means, or doesn’t care. Corbyn is right to keep it on the agenda. Why should he make it an easy push through for Johnson?
Of course people are sick of Brexit but I really don’t think people truly understand how catastrophic a No Deal could be.
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I thought the useless t**t had called it a day ready for some other leftie lightweight to take the helm!
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I thought the useless t**t had called it a day ready for some other leftie lightweight to take the helm!
Putting your nonsense to one side a moment, Do you not think he’s right to take a stand against a No Deal Brexit?
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Of course he doesn't HA.
Sproty wants us to be able to buy New Zealand lamb and Australian beef at 1974 prices.
To think. It's folk like this with a vote that gave us Brexit and Johnson.
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The point is people want out, that’s what they voted for, probably 3 times now. They are sick of delays, they want out and they don’t want anymore enforced delays. That’s my point.
And you are going to get that before the end of next month. We will have left the EU before 31 Jan.
The deal with the EU is a separate thing altogether.
The lack of understanding on the topic is terrifying.
h
What I find terrifying is your willingness to not understand what the people want. They want out they don’t want to be locked in for 2 more years. What happens in 2 years if there is no deal do we have another 2 year delay? Taking no deal off the table was the biggest mistake of all! Taking it off the table meant that the EU didn’t have to do anything as they knew we’d would not leave, that is what they wanted.
Once again Glos, you've entirely missed the point. Totally and utterly.
We ARE leaving by the end of the month. Full stop. You've got what you wanted there. No one is blocking that. No one CAN block that.
The issue here is nothing to do with anyone blocking us leaving. Nothing at all. It's about our future trade relationship with the EU.
If you're going to get really, really angry about something, it usually helps if you know what it is you're getting angry about. What you're doing here is looking very silly, complaining vociferously about something that isn't happening.
And, see, when stuff like this is pointed out to Leave supporters there's usually a complaint that people are being patronising, or calling them thick, or talking down to them.
But what are folk supposed to do? I explained this last night and you just doubled down on your previous (totally wrong) argument.
It kind of supports what I've been saying for these past three years. There's a big group of people in this country who are very passionate about Brexit, but when you cut to the chase, they don't actually seem to know what they are passionate about. It's like they just want something to argue AGAINST. Even, like now, when that thing doesn't exist.
In closing, I'll repeat. Brexit is happening. You won that. We are leaving the EU this month. No one is able or even wanting to stop that. Not me, not Jeremy Corbyn, not Gina Miller, not George Soros.
Do you get it?
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we all get it , just like the UK is going to ' get it ' , apart from the tax dodging millionaires. Can't wait for my cheap beef and lamb.
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Do you hope for, Or know we are going to get it Foxbat, or are you guessing?
One thing is for sure we will not get it any worse than if the Labour lot had won the last election. More money and jobs would have left these shores in the first week of them in government than Brexit will bring .
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The panama and paradise papers show that shed loads of money is 'offshored' already, you'd have to tell how many more would do that and how it would affect the economy, it sounds like Mail and Sun b*llocks mostly Selby.
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A lot of non fact based nonsense posts appearing on here again
Do you hope for, Or know we will not get it any worse than if the Labour lot had won the last election ?
I'm not an off shore tax dodger , so I do know I am going to get it worse.
Only foreign money laundering would have left these shores
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I told you months ago BST, his next big decision will be where his onions should be planted in his allotment.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.......
Such a wit.