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Title: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: selby on December 30, 2019, 07:42:50 am
  Games coming thick and fast, with different emotions after the good win at Peterborough and defeat and disappointment against Sunderland, who probably played a game closer to how I expect Oxford to play against us than Peterborough.
  They have been probably the best team to have played against us this season, giving us a good hiding in the away game earlier in the season and looked on the day a very strong unit. they have a goal difference of 20, the biggest in the division,Frugal at the back with a strong defence, and have a number of players capable of scoring goals, and with players like Brannagan in mid field  have clever strong players who can control the tempo of the game.
  So a difficult game in prospect, in which we will have to be at our best to compete. John's injury could have us make an enforced change, probably James coming in, and myself I would  bring Thomas in for Ennis and Sheaf for Gomes,  both players having had two hard physical games Ennis looked tired at the end of both games but struggled against the better defence of Sunderland  and I just think that Sheaf is the better player, although Gomes has impressed me with a rapid improvement and looks as though he can come through to be a good player for us in future.
  Most of our forwards and midfield are young inexperienced players, who are getting better with game time, a few decent additions in the window and closed season is now imperative to push the club on.
   This game will be a severe test of our ability to come back after the disappointment of yesterdays result.
  How would you shape us up?
  Can we expect a reaction?
  Are we capable of competing against the best teams in the division?
   Lots to discuss about this game, please have your say.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 30, 2019, 07:57:25 am
Another defeat looms. Sorry it’s so gloomy, but if Oxford work hard in midfield, then they will beat us. We just don’t impose ourselves on the opposition. We have too many powder puff players in our midfield 5, who are either not willing or not able to force the issue.

Ennis is the best we’ve got up top and even he is struggling against strong, physical sides. We are reaping what we sowed in the summer, and we must correct that, in January, or we risk flirting with relegation.

I sincerely hope I’m wrong, I really do. But, Oxford are a much better side than Sunderland. And yes, so we’re Peterborough, but they are managed by someone who is arrogant enough to think allthey had to do was turn up.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: scunny rover on December 30, 2019, 08:20:26 am
Just feel more confident about this game although oxford  are a good side.
Sheaf and james in, who plays up front undecided I will leave that to mr moore
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on December 30, 2019, 08:31:10 am
Personally i wouldn't play copps from the start after yesterday put Sheaf back in and try to out number them in the midfield. James has to come back in regardless of injury to John. Can't see us winning which is exactly why i wouldn't be surprised if we do
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2019, 09:33:02 am
Another defeat looms. Sorry it’s so gloomy, but if Oxford work hard in midfield, then they will beat us. We just don’t impose ourselves on the opposition. We have too many powder puff players in our midfield 5, who are either not willing or not able to force the issue.

Ennis is the best we’ve got up top and even he is struggling against strong, physical sides. We are reaping what we sowed in the summer, and we must correct that, in January, or we risk flirting with relegation.

I sincerely hope I’m wrong, I really do. But, Oxford are a much better side than Sunderland. And yes, so we’re Peterborough, but they are managed by someone who is arrogant enough to think allthey had to do was turn up.
“Another defeat looms”  Think i heard that before the Peterborough match. Remind me of the score.

Yes Oxford are a good side and unquestionably have a serious chance of automatic promotion.
They are favourites on Wednesday of course.
But if we play to our capabilities and that depends how well Oxford play then we have every chance of winning or at least a draw.

Your comment about Sunderland is questionable Alan. They were very good yesterday.
Physically strong, did the basics very well. Controlled most of the game. They have not played as well as that for a long time. If they have then their results have been bizarre.

As for Peterborough we will see now just how good they are. IMO not as good as they think they are that is for certain.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2019, 09:44:06 am
Brian agree bring back Sheaf for Gomes. We need his ball winning ability.

Gomes is improving but a long way from what we need which is a proper Mr.
Someone who can win the ball, good passer with vision.

Yes just described Wellens and Kane. So it’s someone with that ilk. Don’t know where he will appear from in January.

As for Thomas, Brian i would only play him if Ennis needs a bit of a rest which is probable, as he bust a gut at Posh and seemed to run out of steam 2nd half yesterday which wasn’t surprising due to his long lay off.

James in for John and if John is fit take Joe Wright’s place.
Cameron is much more comfortable at centre back. He didn’t look happy yesterday at left back although he was excellent at Peterborough.
It looked like cramp fortunately due to the leg stretching he did while receiving treatment, and not a hamstring.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: selby on December 30, 2019, 02:34:08 pm
  Paul, I think Ennis is a decent player in the making, but  where his best position is going to be I am unsure about. Reading the Wolves supporters on him when he first came, they tended to regard him as a wide midfield player, or playing off a front man.
  Well I don't see him as a lone striker up front, especially against big strong uncompromising central defenders as Sunderland had yesterday, physically, and ball retention wise he is not up to it in my opinion, and until we sign someone better if we can, Thomas is the better option, and he also gets into the six yard box.
   
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2019, 02:57:51 pm
  Paul, I think Ennis is a decent player in the making, but  where his best position is going to be I am unsure about. Reading the Wolves supporters on him when he first came, they tended to regard him as a wide midfield player, or playing off a front man.
  Well I don't see him as a lone striker up front, especially against big strong uncompromising central defenders as Sunderland had yesterday, physically, and ball retention wise he is not up to it in my opinion, and until we sign someone better if we can, Thomas is the better option, and he also gets into the six yard box.
 
Sorry Brian, Thomas’s ball retention in the last 3 games he played was almost non existent. Yes i agree Ennis is not a natural target man or lone striker but unless we change systems and play 2 out and out front men he is by far and away the best we have got.
All opinions Brian but Thomas is also far too static, easy to mark and does not create space for others by running the channels and taking defenders out of their comfort zone.

As i said Ennis may only get 25 mins on Wed as he needs to be looked after. He was out for about 7/8 weeks and was blowing out hot air at 4-50 yesterday.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 30, 2019, 03:20:56 pm
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“Another defeat looms”  Think i heard that before the Peterborough match. Remind me of the score.

Not from me you didn’t and that is, so far, proving to be a 1 off. The difference between us and Oxford is, quite simply, players who are game changers - they have a few and we have the odd one, if they’re on song. The other thing is teams have us well and truly sussed, particularly at our place. We have no-one else we can call on to change things round a bit. If just one of our first 11 play, then we struggle.

I long for some positive news on incomings and I don’t mean just another ‘average Joe’, it’s time we showed we mean business.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: NickDRFC on December 30, 2019, 03:23:55 pm
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“Another defeat looms”  Think i heard that before the Peterborough match. Remind me of the score.

Not from me you didn’t and that is, so far, proving to be a 1 off. The difference between us and Oxford is, quite simply, players who are game changers - they have a few and we have the odd one, if they’re on song. The other thing is teams have us well and truly sussed, particularly at our place. We have no-one else we can call on to change things round a bit. If none of our first 11 play, then we struggle.

I long for some positive news on incomings and I don’t mean just another ‘average Joe’, it’s time we showed we mean business.

Ha I think any team would struggle if “none of the first 11” play ;)
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 30, 2019, 03:26:03 pm
Thanks, Nick, corrected.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 30, 2019, 03:27:38 pm
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“Another defeat looms”  Think i heard that before the Peterborough match. Remind me of the score.

Not from me you didn’t and that is, so far, proving to be a 1 off. The difference between us and Oxford is, quite simply, players who are game changers - they have a few and we have the odd one, if they’re on song. The other thing is teams have us well and truly sussed, particularly at our place. We have no-one else we can call on to change things round a bit. If none of our first 11 play, then we struggle.

I long for some positive news on incomings and I don’t mean just another ‘average Joe’, it’s time we showed we mean business.

Ha I think any team would struggle if “none of the first 11” play ;)

Perhaps not yesterday though!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: NewDonny on December 30, 2019, 03:33:41 pm
Ennis has to start, if he doesn't then we are stuffed. He won't score you many goals but his energy and pace up front makes a big difference for our other attacking players. You can knock him all you like for his performance yesterday, as seems the will on this forum after a defeat, but for me he put himself about and made his presence felt.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2019, 03:41:26 pm
Ennis has to start, if he doesn't then we are stuffed. He won't score you many goals but his energy and pace up front makes a big difference for our other attacking players. You can knock him all you like for his performance yesterday, as seems the will on this forum after a defeat, but for me he put himself about and made his presence felt.
Yes but we need to keep him fit. He needs to be managed after this two games and his long lay off.
Use him last 25 mins as an impact player on Wed.
Any way DM is the manager and the coaching staff know the fitness levels. Not us.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2019, 03:45:31 pm
Ennis has to start, if he doesn't then we are stuffed. He won't score you many goals but his energy and pace up front makes a big difference for our other attacking players. You can knock him all you like for his performance yesterday, as seems the will on this forum after a defeat, but for me he put himself about and made his presence felt.

Agreed.
Ennis makes a massive difference, creates space for our other players, holds the ball up better than anyone else.
Without him in the side we struggle to score goals that’s evident from the stats
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: NewDonny on December 30, 2019, 03:49:42 pm
Ennis has to start, if he doesn't then we are stuffed. He won't score you many goals but his energy and pace up front makes a big difference for our other attacking players. You can knock him all you like for his performance yesterday, as seems the will on this forum after a defeat, but for me he put himself about and made his presence felt.

Agreed.
Ennis makes a massive difference, creates space for our other players, holds the ball up better than anyone else.
Without him in the side we struggle to score goals that’s evident from the stats

It also takes the pressure off the back four as well, gives them a breather, although that was not evident yesterday, but then again I think that was more down to our central midfeild who went missing yesterday
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Jonathan on December 30, 2019, 04:57:08 pm
Ennis would have to be dead for me to resort to playing Thomas. And even then I’d look to the youth team first.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Shornton on December 30, 2019, 05:08:51 pm
  Paul, I think Ennis is a decent player in the making, but  where his best position is going to be I am unsure about. Reading the Wolves supporters on him when he first came, they tended to regard him as a wide midfield player, or playing off a front man.
  Well I don't see him as a lone striker up front, especially against big strong uncompromising central defenders as Sunderland had yesterday, physically, and ball retention wise he is not up to it in my opinion, and until we sign someone better if we can, Thomas is the better option, and he also gets into the six yard box.
   


Thomas is the better option????? can i have some of what you've been on?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2019, 05:25:26 pm
  Paul, I think Ennis is a decent player in the making, but  where his best position is going to be I am unsure about. Reading the Wolves supporters on him when he first came, they tended to regard him as a wide midfield player, or playing off a front man.
  Well I don't see him as a lone striker up front, especially against big strong uncompromising central defenders as Sunderland had yesterday, physically, and ball retention wise he is not up to it in my opinion, and until we sign someone better if we can, Thomas is the better option, and he also gets into the six yard box.
   

Which is why we shouldn’t have started this season without a number 9
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: selby on December 30, 2019, 05:59:37 pm
  I know Dickos, and obviously the manager does also. That is why he has tried to fill the gap with Sadlier, Ennis, Thomas, and Bingham, while he has a chance in the next transfer window to sign his own choice.
  Or do you think he should have jumped in after a fortnight and not known what he had available to him in the short period he had at the start of the season?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2019, 06:59:31 pm
He had 7 or 8 weeks did he not and put bids in for two experienced strikers with records better than marquis.
So he identified the players
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: drfchound on December 30, 2019, 07:36:45 pm
He had 7 or 8 weeks did he not and put bids in for two experienced strikers with records better than marquis.
So he identified the players







Yep, he joined us on 10th July so had 7 weeks before the end of the August window.
If it was true about the two strikers, then yes, he had identified the players.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2019, 08:13:09 pm
He had 7 or 8 weeks did he not and put bids in for two experienced strikers with records better than marquis.
So he identified the players
So if he had two players lined up and they didn’t come to us as planned why has DM got so much flack.
Not his fault is it and if only players like Thomas and Bingham were available after the window shut, then what should he have done?

The posts on here just keep going round and round in circles with the same conclusion.

Give DM 4 transfer windows and let’s then see what our squad looks like. 2 more windows and we will i am sure we will see a much much stronger 18/19 1st team squad players
We have 13 of our own now, and hopefully we can sign Deing on a permanent deal.
4 new players in the next 2 windows on a permanent and maybe 3 loans, possibly we can get John, Sheaf & Ennis next season again? Who knows on that one.

The 13 we have under contact are Lawler, Halliday, James, Amos, Anderson, Wright, Blaney, Whiteman, Gomes, Coppinger, Blair, Taylor & Sadlier.

If we can sign Deing on a permanent deal & tie Anderson & Sadlier to longer deals then add 2 quality centre midfielders and 2 quality strikers.

With Horton, Greaves Watton & Boocock as the younger back up players we will have a very competitive squad.
May and Kiwomya will be offloaded and if Jones is good enough to be 2nd choice keeper maybe Lawlor will be also.

So 4 really good signings and our squad will look very strong. We don’t need major surgery just the right players. In 2/3 positions. 






Yep, he joined us on 10th July so had 7 weeks before the end of the August window.
If it was true about the two strikers, then yes, he had identified the players.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2019, 08:15:00 pm
Put above post in wrong box. Gone in the grey.
Not going to right it all again.  :headbang:

hound you often leave a big gap on your posts and i have often written above yours in the gap.

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Shornton on December 30, 2019, 08:16:01 pm
Put above post in wrong box. Gone in the grey.
 Not going to wright it all again.  :headbang:

Or even write it lol
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2019, 08:20:02 pm
He had 7 or 8 weeks did he not and put bids in for two experienced strikers with records better than marquis.
So he identified the players
So if he had two players lined up and they didn’t come to us as planned why has DM got so much flack.
Not his fault is it and if only players like Thomas and Bingham were available after the window shut, then what should he have done?

The posts on here just keep going round and round in circles with the same conclusion.

Give DM 4 transfer windows and let’s then see what our squad looks like. 2 more windows and we will i am sure we will see a much much stronger 18/19 1st team squad players
We have 13 of our own now, and hopefully we can sign Deing on a permanent deal.
4 new players in the next 2 windows on a permanent and maybe 3 loans, possibly we can get John, Sheaf & Ennis next season again? Who knows on that one.

The 13 we have under contact are Lawler, Halliday, James, Amos, Anderson, Wright, Blaney, Whiteman, Gomes, Coppinger, Blair, Taylor & Sadlier.

If we can sign Deing on a permanent deal & tie Anderson & Sadlier to longer deals then add 2 quality centre midfielders and 2 quality strikers.

With Horton, Greaves Watton & Boocock as the younger back up players we will have a very competitive squad.
May and Kiwomya will be offloaded and if Jones is good enough to be 2nd choice keeper maybe will Lawlor will be also.

So 4 really good signings and our squad will look very strong. We don’t need major surgery just the right players. In 2/3 positions. 






Yep, he joined us on 10th July so had 7 weeks before the end of the August window.
If it was true about the two strikers, then yes, he had identified the players.

I believe it was Moore that changed his mind on those deals
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2019, 08:22:38 pm
Believe or know? 

None of us know what happened it’s just gossip.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2019, 08:25:50 pm
Well I’ve been told by someone who knows
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2019, 08:30:19 pm
Put above post in wrong box. Gone in the grey.
 Not going to wright it all again.  :headbang:

Or even write it lol
Corrected.  :)
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: drfchound on December 30, 2019, 09:46:31 pm
Well I’ve been told by someone who knows







A friend of mine who regularly speaks with GB also suggested the same to me.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on December 30, 2019, 09:49:51 pm
it's old ground now though i think we'd all agree. I don't get the need to bring it up at every occasion i think everyone knows the summer wasn't great and we didn't get the quality needed in for a top six push. it is what it is now
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 30, 2019, 09:50:22 pm
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I believe it was Moore that changed his mind on those deals

Well, you’d believe wrong. It was reported by Liam Hoden only a few days ago - it had nothing to do with DM.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2019, 09:51:47 pm
I’d believe who told me over Liam Hoden
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 30, 2019, 09:52:51 pm
Please yourself.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Bezza on December 31, 2019, 07:30:42 am
Against Sunderland our defence was way to deep, allowing them to much room to play in, against Oxford we can't do the same or we will be in trouble again, hopefully Moore will put this right,
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Michael Shaw on December 31, 2019, 07:42:09 am
Don't Rovers always play an attacking style rather than a balanced style and other clubs know it? An attacking style makes it a more exciting game to watch but clubs know how to hit us on the break because we commit too many players. I don't think DM has any plan B so clubs know what to expect. He is not astute in using subs at the right time either, but that's only my opinion. The clubs that get promoted often win by scores of just 1-0 rather than going for a goal fest in every game. I think the slide down league one will just continue with the next two games.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 31, 2019, 10:24:32 am
Don't Rovers always play an attacking style rather than a balanced style and other clubs know it? An attacking style makes it a more exciting game to watch but clubs know how to hit us on the break because we commit too many players. I don't think DM has any plan B so clubs know what to expect. He is not astute in using subs at the right time either, but that's only my opinion. The clubs that get promoted often win by scores of just 1-0 rather than going for a goal fest in every game. I think the slide down league one will just continue with the next two games.
Wouldn’t really expect you to say anything else Michael. Some of us have glasses half full and some of us have glasses half empty.
That doesn’t mean i will be right and you wrong of course.
It’s just a mindset and having a positive outlook.
The players will not be thinking they are going to lose when the step on to the Keepmoat turf.
If they do then we ARE doomed.
How many gave us a sniff against Peterborough. Yet we made them look like a league 2 team.

I think in the 2nd half of the season we may pick up as many or even more points away from home.
Teams come to the Moat with a solid game plan which we are finding difficult to overcome.
We will get more space in away games which will suit our formation and counter attacking ability.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: IDM on December 31, 2019, 10:42:23 am
I can’t believe folks are still harping on about the lack of signing a number 9 in summer..

Do we want any player, or the player DM wants.?

And before anyone retorts, yes I would have rather we signed a decent striker and not had to rely on pickings from free agents.  Then again, how different would things have been had Sterling and Ennis not been injured.?

We move on, if we accept what’s been said in the last day or so, we can expect incoming players and soon.

As for tomorrow, as unpopular as it may be with many fans, I can see Thomas starting ahead of Ennis simply because the young lad needs recovery time IMHO.  Sheaf and James in for me also.

This is a game where we need to be strong and battle for every second ball.  A fighting low score draw would be a decent result, even a 0-0, and a win an improbable bonus.

I’m not usually of a defensive mindset but my first aim for tomorrow would be keeping a clean sheet.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 31, 2019, 12:13:59 pm
I can’t believe folks are still harping on about the lack of signing a number 9 in summer..

Do we want any player, or the player DM wants.?

And before anyone retorts, yes I would have rather we signed a decent striker and not had to rely on pickings from free agents.  Then again, how different would things have been had Sterling and Ennis not been injured.?

We move on, if we accept what’s been said in the last day or so, we can expect incoming players and soon.

As for tomorrow, as unpopular as it may be with many fans, I can see Thomas starting ahead of Ennis simply because the young lad needs recovery time IMHO.  Sheaf and James in for me also.

This is a game where we need to be strong and battle for every second ball.  A fighting low score draw would be a decent result, even a 0-0, and a win an improbable bonus.

I’m not usually of a defensive mindset but my first aim for tomorrow would be keeping a clean sheet.
The 1st part of that post i agree totally IDM
Regarding tomorrow i would love a clean sheet of course but think we need to be positive and impose ourselves on the game.
Oxford are a good side in good form but they are no world beaters.
Can also see Thomas starting to give Ennis a rest. We need him fit for our congested schedule in January, February, March & April.
Definitely Sheaf in for Gomes. We need a ball winner. Gomes is not that man.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Donnywolf on December 31, 2019, 01:34:41 pm
Never mind at least we have a good Ref

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=269938.msg857900#msg857900
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Jonathan on December 31, 2019, 01:40:31 pm
If we had another striker then resting Ennis would probably be wise. But we don’t, so Ennis has to start if we are to have a chance of taking something from the game.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 31, 2019, 01:48:45 pm
Well I’ve been told by someone who knows







A friend of mine who regularly speaks with GB also suggested the same to me.
But surely GB would not criticise the manager how we sign players to a member of the public.
You also have to question other insiders who let it be known that not signing players was the managers fault
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on December 31, 2019, 02:01:09 pm
just an observation
Oxford walloped Rovers 3-0 and have kept on upward
Gillingham also walloped Rovers 3-0 and have been in good form for a long while now
so with hindsight those results look "slightly" less bad.

if Rovers had drawn both Christmas matches there would be an air of confidence about the club. Even if they drew all 3 matches "there would still be an air of confidence" . So wednesday can be thought as a "freebie" with 3 points in the bag ? ???

with the wall of signings coming  :scarf:

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 31, 2019, 02:11:22 pm
just an observation
Oxford walloped Rovers 3-0 and have kept on upward
Gillingham also walloped Rovers 3-0 and have been in good form for a long while now
so with hindsight those results look "slightly" less bad.

if Rovers had drawn both Christmas matches there would be an air of confidence about the club. Even if they drew all 3 matches "there would still be an air of confidence" . So wednesday can be thought as a "freebie" with 3 points in the bag ? ???

with the wall of signings coming  :scarf:
You would have thought with that defeat to Sunderland the world had caved in reading some of the posts.

How many people would have taken 4 points from the 3 holiday games?
A draw tomorrow and that’s 4  A win, yes it’s possible, it really is, would give us 6
I always knew my maths wasn’t that bad.  :clapping:
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Filo on December 31, 2019, 02:14:12 pm
just an observation
Oxford walloped Rovers 3-0 and have kept on upward
Gillingham also walloped Rovers 3-0 and have been in good form for a long while now
so with hindsight those results look "slightly" less bad.

if Rovers had drawn both Christmas matches there would be an air of confidence about the club. Even if they drew all 3 matches "there would still be an air of confidence" . So wednesday can be thought as a "freebie" with 3 points in the bag ? ???

with the wall of signings coming  :scarf:
You would have thought with that defeat to Sunderland the world had caved in reading some of the posts.

How many people would have taken 4 points from the 3 holiday games.
A draw tomorrow and that’s 4  A win yes it’s possible it really is would give us 6
I always knew my maths wasn’t that bad.  :clapping:

I’m not sure the defeat bothers most people, it is the manner of the defeat that does, where was the endeavour and desire that DM talks about in every interview, it was missing big time despite DM saying it was there
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 31, 2019, 02:36:15 pm
Their recent away record in League One is unfortunately very good - last 8 away games has seen 4 wins, 3 draws and only one defeat.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: RoversAlias on December 31, 2019, 02:43:56 pm
just an observation
Oxford walloped Rovers 3-0 and have kept on upward
Gillingham also walloped Rovers 3-0 and have been in good form for a long while now
so with hindsight those results look "slightly" less bad.

if Rovers had drawn both Christmas matches there would be an air of confidence about the club. Even if they drew all 3 matches "there would still be an air of confidence" . So wednesday can be thought as a "freebie" with 3 points in the bag ? ???

with the wall of signings coming  :scarf:
You would have thought with that defeat to Sunderland the world had caved in reading some of the posts.

How many people would have taken 4 points from the 3 holiday games?
A draw tomorrow and that’s 4  A win, yes it’s possible, it really is, would give us 6
I always knew my maths wasn’t that bad.  :clapping:

Considering three of the four games have been at home, presuming you mean the holiday games are Accrington, Peterborough, Sunderland and Oxford, then I'm not sure how we can say we'd be happy with four points? Seven minimum when you've got three home games in four.

We should have beaten Accrington. We should have played better against Sunderland. Tomorrow remains to be seen. The Posh result and performance were obviously terrific. I do agree that our world is not caving in, far from it. But we should have done better in our recent home games.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 31, 2019, 02:48:20 pm
Accrington was not included Alias.
I did say the 3 holiday games.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: drfchound on December 31, 2019, 03:24:03 pm
Well I’ve been told by someone who knows







A friend of mine who regularly speaks with GB also suggested the same to me.
But surely GB would not criticise the manager how we sign players to a member of the public.
You also have to question other insiders who let it be known that not signing players was the managers fault







Steve, the person that told me does some work for the club.
Obviously I don’t know why GB would tell him what he did but my friend has no reason to to fib about it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: selby on December 31, 2019, 04:00:43 pm
  Surely if Darren Moore is unsure any deal lined up is right for the club, he is entitled to refuse to sanction it going through as he ultimately would carry the can for mistakes.
  Whatever the time line of his chances of signing players before the season started,which  by any notion was short. I defend his right to look at what was available in the squad he inherited, and to try and get in the players he himself wants at the club.
   My own take is that I will judge him as a first team manager playing wise after the first couple of months of next season, as right from the start of this season I only had hopes of a rebuilding season first team wise, but was hoping for a cup run of sorts, and at most flirting with a playoff place, which is still not completely out of reach, but would require us to have a good run of results from here on in.
   The underbelly of the playing staff at youth, reserve level, and coaching staff, now has a progressive structure and is much improved both in quality  and numbers who may have a future in professional football hopefully at this club and we become less reliable on cast offs from other clubs.
  Darren has now the chance in this transfer window, and at the end of this season to put his own stamp on our first team future, and I have every confidence in his ability and ambition to do so. I find the questioning of him being given time to do so on other threads on this forum, at least uninformed, and to my mind idiotic.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 31, 2019, 04:09:28 pm
Well I’ve been told by someone who knows







A friend of mine who regularly speaks with GB also suggested the same to me.
But surely GB would not criticise the manager how we sign players to a member of the public.
You also have to question other insiders who let it be known that not signing players was the managers fault







Steve, the person that told me does some work for the club.
Obviously I don’t know why GB would tell him what he did but my friend has no reason to to fib about it.
Fair enough as you say don’t why GB would say anything.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: wabtec on January 01, 2020, 12:27:42 pm
At the risk of being asked what planet i,m on,and upsetting Roversdude I,ll have my say.we went to Oxford and they are the best team i have seen in league one they were all over us for the whole of the match,don,t think we had any good spells in the match,they have got good players all over the pitch,they haven,t got a Thomas or Bingham.If we get anything today it will be a good result.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 01, 2020, 12:55:33 pm
Even without Thomas and Bingham we haven’t got the front players to score enough goals especially against teams who work hard and press. It’s easy to  blame Thomas and Bingham but we were no good against Sunderland apart from one move when our supposedly best front four where playing. This transfer window may change that and give us better options.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 01, 2020, 01:04:51 pm
Come on the lads today. Let’s show Oxford the real DRFC the one we turned out on Boxing Day.
If we get beaten giving 100% and are 2nd best then fair play to Oxford.

But I think we might just spring a surprise today. Believe Believe. That’s what DM I hope will be saying in the pre match talk.

 :scarf: :scarf: :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 01, 2020, 01:11:51 pm
The team we  played on Boxing Day conceded 7 goals in two games and didn’t score. Oxford area different team altogether.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: IDM on January 01, 2020, 02:39:02 pm
The team we  played on Boxing Day conceded 7 goals in two games and didn’t score. Oxford area different team altogether.

Peterborough also score plenty of goals, yet bagged none against us in two games..

Our win on Boxing Day shouldn’t be played down because posh lost badly in the next game too..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on January 01, 2020, 04:00:10 pm
The team we  played on Boxing Day conceded 7 goals in two games and didn’t score. Oxford area different team altogether.

Peterborough also score plenty of goals, yet bagged none against us in two games..

Our win on Boxing Day shouldn’t be played down because posh lost badly in the next game too..

watch these goals then try to keep a straight face and let's have your response   own goal to make it 2-0 : own goal for 3-0: out of this world goal for 4-0:
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11897810/rotherham-4-0-peterborough

football results lie sometimes
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: PDX_Rover on January 01, 2020, 04:57:57 pm
Get in there... excellent win against a very, very good Oxford side. Brilliant defending.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Rovers91 on January 01, 2020, 04:58:56 pm
Cracking result that and cracking effort to stop them from scoring.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 01, 2020, 04:59:47 pm
6 points from those 9 and to lose only by one goal against Sunderland is not a bad return for Christmas.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: RedRover on January 01, 2020, 05:13:17 pm
Get in there... excellent win against a very, very good Oxford side. Brilliant defending.

And the award for most archetypal Doncaster Rovers supporter of the day goes to PDX Rover. When is scraping a win, at home by being thoroughly outplayed all along while having to watch our defence largely and hopefully lump it up to a big man an "excellent win"? Assuming you actually went, are you pleased you paid money to see that performance?

When we lose the next game it'll no doubt be the refs fault too eh PDX Rover?

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: swintonrover on January 01, 2020, 05:18:02 pm
I'd term an excellent win as winning a game you weren't expecting to, regardless of performance. That was an excellent win.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dickos1 on January 01, 2020, 05:19:02 pm
Of course it was a very good win.
I enjoyed today, winning games isn’t all about playing nice attractive football
I thought we were great today against a very good side
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Canadian Rover on January 01, 2020, 05:19:39 pm
We also had several good break always. Max was taken down on the edge of the box, Taylor broke well from an Ennis turn. Copps put a peach of ball into the back post too.

I thought the defending was superb and all good teams have to do that to win games. Leicester did it to win the league!!! As did the Rovers under Saunders/Flynn.

Honestly...I'm amazed by how fans just sometimes can't be happy.

If people get no pleasure from our club winning and keeping a clean sheet against an excellent side then why bother watching...go to the cinema and write a blog about how the director and plots in films let you down and that the lighting wasn't good. For me a win is a win and should be celebrated!!!

Well done Darren and the players! Happy New Year!!!!! Be happy!!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: 5 on Tour on January 01, 2020, 05:19:43 pm
Red Rover why on earth are you looking for the negative in a win? Yes we had lots of defending to do but haven’t plenty of successful teams worked from the philosophy of conceding 0 goals. Italy for example won a couple of world cups by doing it. Is it going to work for us every week? No. Did it work today? Yes. So let’s enjoy it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: jackthelad on January 01, 2020, 05:22:48 pm
That is a brilliant win.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on January 01, 2020, 05:24:44 pm
Get in there... excellent win against a very, very good Oxford side. Brilliant defending.

And the award for most archetypal Doncaster Rovers supporter of the day goes to PDX Rover. When is scraping a win, at home by being thoroughly outplayed all along while having to watch our defence largely and hopefully lump it up to a big man an "excellent win"? Assuming you actually went, are you pleased you paid money to see that performance?

When we lose the next game it'll know doubt be the refs fault too eh PDX Rover?


Like many Rovers’ fans, including PDX_Rover, I expect, I really do not care what the overall performance on the pitch is. The important thing is the result. If we play crap and win, then so what? You win naff all for the performance, only the result...just to state the bleedin’ obvious!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: PDX_Rover on January 01, 2020, 05:25:27 pm
Get in there... excellent win against a very, very good Oxford side. Brilliant defending.

And the award for most archetypal Doncaster Rovers supporter of the day goes to PDX Rover. When is scraping a win, at home by being thoroughly outplayed all along while having to watch our defence largely and hopefully lump it up to a big man an "excellent win"? Assuming you actually went, are you pleased you paid money to see that performance?

When we lose the next game it'll know doubt be the refs fault too eh PDX Rover?



What are you taking about you prat?

We were outplayed. I say Oxford are a very, very good team. So it’s an excellent three points in my view.

But hey, let’s be negative about it eh?

Plonker.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dknward2 on January 01, 2020, 05:54:40 pm
Did very well and was a hard battle to win we stopped them in the final 3rd and limited them to wasteful shots. With a bit of luck we could have had at least another 2 goals.

Wright and Anderson were both fantastic.

Watters looks a good future talent.

Some times you need that ground out win to get the belief going and know you are doing the right things.

Was disappointed to hear people moaning about Gomes coming on he did ok too
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: scunny rover on January 01, 2020, 06:13:37 pm
Enjoyed that ,back 4 or was 5,6,7,or 8 were great ,passing was better still not great ,playing out from the back better still not great,commitment  100% throughout the team, good win against a very good side
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: selby on January 01, 2020, 06:24:04 pm
  A result against the form shown by both sides lately, built on a back four and goalkeeping display to match anything we have produced over the last few years.
  Oxford are a very good side, have the largest goal difference in the division, and have players up front and in midfield who can give teams trouble when they attack.   Today for large parts of that game our defence dealt with them well, Dieng and the back four coping well, and the rest of the team working very hard, getting bodies goal side, and putting pressure on the man with the ball. The main problem we had today was our ball retention when playing the ball forward but our work rate made up for most of our shortcomings.
  Sheaf, apart from one or two wayward passes was immense especially in the first half, and with Anderson and Wright were the bedrock our game was based on, and Coppinger found the key to unlock their defence with once again a superb defence splitting pass.
  Two clean sheets in three games is a big improvement, and it only takes a moment to win a game by scoring a goal,and organisation and effort can go a long way to achieving the goal of a win. Today we showed  character , a willingness to work hard, and not to give in, we are a young side learning very quickly, and could be the start of better things to come  in the future.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: roversontheup on January 01, 2020, 06:26:39 pm
Well I may well be easily pleased but I enjoyed today. Thought it was a really good match. 3 pts against Oxford is a very good win.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 01, 2020, 06:41:21 pm
The team we  played on Boxing Day conceded 7 goals in two games and didn’t score. Oxford area different team altogether.
You were saying.

Why oh why can’t you think positively Steve.
No game is lost before you kick off unless one team goes out thinking they will lose.

Have a bit of faith. IF we win on Tues we will be 2 points off the play off places with 1 or 2 games in hand on all those above us.
YES ITS AN IF we win of course.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 01, 2020, 06:42:59 pm
Doom merchants where are you this evening.
The hush is deafening.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 01, 2020, 06:46:34 pm
Glad the players have got a rest coming up.

It was made harder today as Ennis was way off the pace. Their centre half (no 4} had a relatively easy game and was able to bring the ball out into midfield making an extra man.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Jonathan on January 01, 2020, 06:58:29 pm
Glad the players have got a rest coming up.

It was made harder today as Ennis was way off the pace. Their centre half (no 4} had a relatively easy game and was able to bring the ball out into midfield making an extra man.

It got easier for their defence when Kwame came on.

Ennis is a young lad in his first season in senior football. He struggled a bit at times and the lack of experience and composure can show, but you can’t fault his effort. He’s done a great job leading our line in the circumstances. Now is the time to fetch in some help.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Rovers91 on January 01, 2020, 07:09:43 pm
I hope we bring a good striker in with a bit of a presence because I would like to see Ennis in that role just behind the striker, think he would be dangerous there. But hes done a cracking job leading the line for us because when hes not played christ we've missed him.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on January 01, 2020, 07:20:49 pm
  ................................
  Oxford are a very good side, have the largest goal difference in the division, and have players up front and in midfield who can give teams trouble when they attack.   

I hope the Championship scouts have their eyes on a few of their team. There might be a lot of brains in Oxford but maybe not a lot of money at the club
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 01, 2020, 07:29:24 pm
Always good to beat Karl Robinson, given his six year stint as chief apologist for morally bankrupt and ethically repugnant Franchise FC.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: NewDonny on January 01, 2020, 07:54:18 pm
Get in there... excellent win against a very, very good Oxford side. Brilliant defending.

And the award for most archetypal Doncaster Rovers supporter of the day goes to PDX Rover. When is scraping a win, at home by being thoroughly outplayed all along while having to watch our defence largely and hopefully lump it up to a big man an "excellent win"? Assuming you actually went, are you pleased you paid money to see that performance?

When we lose the next game it'll know doubt be the refs fault too eh PDX Rover?

You are the archetypal supporter here RR not PDX, we won, so what's not to be happy about.
Like the majority of us at todays game RR saw the result for what it was, a ground out gritty performance against probably the best side in the league at the moment. Not a spectacle by any stretch of the imagination but 3 points. The lads all worked hard to a man and ran their socks something I suspect was hard for all of them come around the 70th minute with most of them near to having played 4 games in 12 days were really having to dig in and fight to keep their bodies going.

Well done PDX for saying it as it should be!





Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: NewDonny on January 01, 2020, 07:59:47 pm
Glad the players have got a rest coming up.

It was made harder today as Ennis was way off the pace. Their centre half (no 4} had a relatively easy game and was able to bring the ball out into midfield making an extra man.

It got easier for their defence when Kwame came on.

Ennis is a young lad in his first season in senior football. He struggled a bit at times and the lack of experience and composure can show, but you can’t fault his effort. He’s done a great job leading our line in the circumstances. Now is the time to fetch in some help.

With the squad we have, I would have a half fit, slightly off the pace Ennis up top at CF all day long.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 01, 2020, 08:12:23 pm
Doom merchants where are you this evening.
The hush is deafening.

There’s a few usual suspects missing tonight.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 01, 2020, 08:19:12 pm
Glad the players have got a rest coming up.

It was made harder today as Ennis was way off the pace. Their centre half (no 4} had a relatively easy game and was able to bring the ball out into midfield making an extra man.

It got easier for their defence when Kwame came on.

Ennis is a young lad in his first season in senior football. He struggled a bit at times and the lack of experience and composure can show, but you can’t fault his effort. He’s done a great job leading our line in the circumstances. Now is the time to fetch in some help.

With the squad we have, I would have a half fit, slightly off the pace Ennis up top at CF all day long.

I agree with that ND but as Jonathan says let’s fetch him some help, better quality than we have now.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on January 02, 2020, 07:25:01 pm
  ................................
  Oxford are a very good side, have the largest goal difference in the division, and have players up front and in midfield who can give teams trouble when they attack.   

I hope the Championship scouts have their eyes on a few of their team. There might be a lot of brains in Oxford but maybe not a lot of money at the club

well a good start has already been made on dismantling this team !!! like the next day !!!   :byebye:

Oxford United can confirm that defender Chris Cadden has left the club after Columbus Crew sent the paperwork through this morning to recall him from his loan.

Chris had an outstanding first half of the season and Head Coach Karl Robinson made no secret that he would have liked the Scottish international to stay for longer.

The sky ticker said Cardiff had offered one million for him to "Colombus Crew" who loaned him to Oxford   

https://www.oufc.co.uk/news/2020/january/chris-cadden-departs/
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2020, 07:36:16 pm
Yes, he looked a very good player coming out from the back and winning most headed clearances.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Reesielad on January 02, 2020, 07:39:19 pm
On the oxford forum they say he was the worst performer on the pitch and was at fault for our goal


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Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 02, 2020, 08:34:54 pm
Get in there... excellent win against a very, very good Oxford side. Brilliant defending.

And the award for most archetypal Doncaster Rovers supporter of the day goes to PDX Rover. When is scraping a win, at home by being thoroughly outplayed all along while having to watch our defence largely and hopefully lump it up to a big man an "excellent win"? Assuming you actually went, are you pleased you paid money to see that performance?

When we lose the next game it'll know doubt be the refs fault too eh PDX Rover?
Oh dear RedRover you really are very sad. What would make you happy with ref to DRFC ?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: dickos1 on January 03, 2020, 12:13:19 am
Yes, he looked a very good player coming out from the back and winning most headed clearances.

Don’t think that’s the same player

Number 4 who kept bringing the ball out and won everything In the air was rob dickie.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Oxford united game
Post by: PDX_Rover on January 03, 2020, 10:05:42 pm
Don't Rovers always play an attacking style rather than a balanced style and other clubs know it? An attacking style makes it a more exciting game to watch but clubs know how to hit us on the break because we commit too many players. I don't think DM has any plan B so clubs know what to expect. He is not astute in using subs at the right time either, but that's only my opinion. The clubs that get promoted often win by scores of just 1-0 rather than going for a goal fest in every game. I think the slide down league one will just continue with the next two games.
Wouldn’t really expect you to say anything else Michael. Some of us have glasses half full and some of us have glasses half empty.
That doesn’t mean i will be right and you wrong of course.
It’s just a mindset and having a positive outlook.
The players will not be thinking they are going to lose when the step on to the Keepmoat turf.
If they do then we ARE doomed.
How many gave us a sniff against Peterborough. Yet we made them look like a league 2 team.

I think in the 2nd half of the season we may pick up as many or even more points away from home.
Teams come to the Moat with a solid game plan which we are finding difficult to overcome.
We will get more space in away games which will suit our formation and counter attacking ability.


And Michael has smashed his glass and sat on the shards. The mourngy tw@t.