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Title: That Ref
Post by: Filo on January 01, 2020, 05:24:26 pm
Must have had Oxford in his bet today, gave us nothing all game, and where did he get 7 minutes from?
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Alan Southstand on January 01, 2020, 05:28:03 pm
Funny that, Filo, if you go on twitter, the Oxford fans are moaning about him, too!
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: dickos1 on January 01, 2020, 05:34:27 pm
I thought it would be around 7 mins
Watters was injured for a long time as was whiteman plus all the subs
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 01, 2020, 05:35:46 pm
7 mins was about right.

6 substitutions is 3 minutes straightaway. Then there were 3-4 players treated for injuries.

His worst decision by a mile was pacing out 7 yards for our wall for that Oxford free kick, 10 mins into the second half.
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: dknward2 on January 01, 2020, 06:00:57 pm
I was thinking 5 then watters got injured so 7 was about right, after they didn't pass the ball back (not a rule i know) I so wanted us to keep the clean sheet so much.

He fell for every foul of oxfords every time we went in for a challenge down they went
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: colincramb on January 01, 2020, 06:02:28 pm
I said 7 minutes. Don’t see how it could have been less to be fair
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 01, 2020, 06:04:36 pm
Funny that, Filo, if you go on twitter, the Oxford fans are moaning about him, too!

They will if they're going on everytime they threw themselves to the floor. Worst diving team we have played i would say
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Reesielad on January 01, 2020, 06:12:05 pm
Things seemed to turn very nasty very quickly in the second half


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Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 01, 2020, 06:23:07 pm
He was far too quick to blow for non fouls when there was minimal contact. Didn't work the other way round. Even when we won the ball cleanly, he awarded them a foul.
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on January 01, 2020, 06:23:13 pm
He's always rubbish I posted this yeasterday


Never mind at least we have a good Ref

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=269938.msg857900#msg857900 (https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=269938.msg857900#msg857900)
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 01, 2020, 06:26:19 pm
I just wish the refs were as consistent as you DW   ;)
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on January 01, 2020, 07:13:22 pm
Aye like a bad penny - turn up with same old same old

Hopefully thats an end to the known bad Refs (4 in a row) so we will no doubt discover some more now
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Bezza on January 01, 2020, 07:31:49 pm
The ref was so bad he was almost funny,
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: BobG on January 01, 2020, 11:33:08 pm
Lol. Bad refs don't make me laugh. Or smile. Or even grin. They make me seeth. With undiluted rage. Step this way Mr effing bloody Singh.

Cheers

BobG
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 03, 2020, 01:21:48 am
https://twitter.com/SpencerOwen/status/1212695188059152384

Over 31,000 likes just now  :woot:
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: RoversAlias on January 03, 2020, 02:11:45 am
I love how, as Stockbridge begins walking towards them, our wall actually backs off further than they already were before gratefully stepping up 5 yards to where he had deemed the line to be. Baffling stuff.
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on January 03, 2020, 07:23:36 am
It is a Thread I started last week - pointing out the vast inconsistency between the Refs ! Before long they will have to whip out a torch / laser beam then mark a spot for the kicker and move the Players back by waving until their Laser reads 10 yards !

Seriously though that Muppet incident the other night reminded me so much of a Barnsley Wolves game and the Free kick was almost in the identical position on the field . I ran a thread on it here (bet BarnsleyTyke remembers this very well) My first two posts

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=260972.msg678439#msg678439
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Jimmydee on January 03, 2020, 09:42:16 am
On watching that video clip, if I was reffing, I wouldn’t bother spraying a line, I would use the penalty area lines as the marker.  It’s more or less every game that you watch where the pre marked lines are easier or convenient to use.
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: donnievic on January 03, 2020, 10:03:35 am
The reason they don’t tend to use the line is if there is a handball appeal there would argue whether it’s in or outside the box,we know the line would class as being inside if when jumping they come forward would it be classed as a penalty or encroachment,that’s why they are usually see them in by a yard or so or outside
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: ian1980 on January 03, 2020, 11:47:19 am
The reason they don’t tend to use the line is if there is a handball appeal there would argue whether it’s in or outside the box,we know the line would class as being inside if when jumping they come forward would it be classed as a penalty or encroachment,that’s why they are usually see them in by a yard or so or outside

Absolutely correct. I recently did the referee course and they advised not to use the penalty area line for the wall to make it clear, either a yard inside or a yard outside.

As said above, if there is then any infringement, it’s clear that it’s either a free kick or a penalty.

There were several scenarios throughout the course in a similar vein to this that they classed as sensible refereeing which is removing as much potential controversy as possible.

Far more potential controversy with any handball on the penalty area line than whether the wall was only 9 yards back rather than 10
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: donnievic on January 03, 2020, 12:50:41 pm
The reason they don’t tend to use the line is if there is a handball appeal there would argue whether it’s in or outside the box,we know the line would class as being inside if when jumping they come forward would it be classed as a penalty or encroachment,that’s why they are usually see them in by a yard or so or outside

Absolutely correct. I recently did the referee course and they advised not to use the penalty area line for the wall to make it clear, either a yard inside or a yard outside.

As said above, if there is then any infringement, it’s clear that it’s either a free kick or a penalty.

There were several scenarios throughout the course in a similar vein to this that they classed as sensible refereeing which is removing as much potential controversy as possible.

Far more potential controversy with any handball on the penalty area line than whether the wall was only 9 yards back rather than 10
likewise just over a year ago and it’s not until you do the course that you get to know the full laws of the game and not just think you know them,my bug bare was defenders shielding the ball out of play thinking their abstructing but infact it is allowed within reason
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: IDM on January 03, 2020, 12:52:47 pm
Yes but also if a player is shielding the ball within playing distance, a fair charge can be made - something fans often think is a push..
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: donnievic on January 03, 2020, 01:00:08 pm
Aslong as it’s shoulder to shoulder it’s fine
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on January 03, 2020, 03:23:36 pm
The reason they don’t tend to use the line is if there is a handball appeal there would argue whether it’s in or outside the box,we know the line would class as being inside if when jumping they come forward would it be classed as a penalty or encroachment,that’s why they are usually see them in by a yard or so or outside

As said above, if there is then any infringement, it’s clear that it’s either a free kick or a penalty.


Easy to decide - if its a potential penalty to us it will be a Free kick

However if its a potential Penalty to opposition you can bet it will be

Signed Paranoid person
Title: Re: That Ref
Post by: drfchound on January 03, 2020, 09:09:08 pm
Yes but also if a player is shielding the ball within playing distance, a fair charge can be made - something fans often think is a push..





To be fair IDM, most refs think it is a push, and award a free kick to the defender.