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Title: Herbie Kane
Post by: dickos1 on January 03, 2020, 11:19:29 am
Gone to hull

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.liverpoolfc.com/amp/news/academy/381056-herbie-kane-joins-hull-city-on-loan
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: IDM on January 03, 2020, 11:21:54 am
No surprise there.  The lad needs to play at that level..
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Canadian Rover on January 03, 2020, 11:24:15 am
Maybe ends the Whiteman to Hull speculation?
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 03, 2020, 11:26:32 am
Common sense all round really as much as we don't like it. I wish him well and hope he shines. Great lad!
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: IDM on January 03, 2020, 11:38:20 am
Although if I am being honest I would have preferred him to go elsewhere, even Leeds.!
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Donnybax on January 03, 2020, 12:01:49 pm
Good luck to him
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Cramby10 on January 03, 2020, 12:11:59 pm
I wish Herbie nothing but the best but it’s heartbreaking to see him join up with that c**t of a manager.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Alan Southstand on January 03, 2020, 12:17:46 pm
That’s one New Year’s wish dashed.
 :crying:

All the best, Herbie - you have been sorely missed this season.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: phil old leake on January 03, 2020, 12:45:52 pm
I’m torn with this one.  I want him to do really well and become a good player but if it helps Hull and McCann especially I’m not sure
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: andyst79 on January 03, 2020, 12:57:28 pm
The snakes doing a good job at Hull as well
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: IDM on January 03, 2020, 12:59:48 pm
He didn’t do a bad job here.. the only problem was him leaving the way he did and when he did..
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: dickos1 on January 03, 2020, 01:03:56 pm
He did a great job here
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: andyst79 on January 03, 2020, 01:05:51 pm
He didn’t do a bad job here.. the only problem was him leaving the way he did and when he did..
If he manages to make the playoffs on Hulls budget he could be off again
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 03, 2020, 01:09:07 pm
I posted this on another thread yesterday. Malik going to Hull is also on the cards. A bid for Whiteman is also a consideration.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: roversdude on January 03, 2020, 01:44:15 pm
He may as well just change their home kit to red and white hoops
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Campsall rover on January 03, 2020, 01:56:28 pm
Good luck to Herbie. Hope he does well. I too would have preferred he had gone to Leeds United or Sheffield Wednesday.

We must though remember that McCann took us to the play offs last season.
We played some cracking football, scored lots of goals and i don’t remember too many criticising him during the later part of the season when the play offs were beckoning.

He was a very good manager for us and we should not lose sight of that fact.
Also proving himself to be a very good Championship manager as Hull City are doing much better than i thought they would this season.

Yes he completely contradicted his loyalty mantra in the summer when he jumped ship and consequently made himself a villain to all Rovers fans.

But very little loyalty in football i am afraid. Money talks. Moving up a Division is too irresistible for many managers and players.
We have to accept it, move on and look forward to putting one over him in the next season or two.

Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 03, 2020, 02:03:47 pm
It’s the level he needs to playing especially on loan. If Hull sell Bowen they may come calling again I hope not
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: graingrover on January 03, 2020, 02:11:10 pm
It shows that personal relationships still count in the world of football ...Fergie and Cantona is the most outstanding example and in general many managers choose players they know already and over whom they have influence .
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Donnywolf on January 03, 2020, 03:56:32 pm
Maybe ends the Whiteman to Hull speculation?

.... but not the Hu.. . speculation ?  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: arkseyrover on January 03, 2020, 07:02:57 pm
Thank God for that! At least we can move on now and free up some forum time now all the Herbivores understand that he aint coming back. Oh wait a minute - its only a loan so they may still be living in hopes that it may happen in the summer. Groan. Groan. Groan.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: since-1969 on January 03, 2020, 07:36:23 pm
It’s hard to ignore that we are tripping over solutions to our progress  like Kane or  Wilks etc and we are unable to pursue them . Until we  get into the Championship we have no powers of influence with players or clubs . All the club can do is tough it out year on year until we have a squad capable of promotion .
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Donnywolf on January 03, 2020, 08:18:19 pm
Classic one there arkseyrover Herbivores ! Made me chuckle anyway

You are right though he has gone - out of our grasp - and I for one will watch him as long as I can and see if he eclipses Tony Woodcock regarded as probably our best loanee ever by those of a certain age

There is a good parallel with the Herbivores because like him lots and I mean LOTS of Rovers fans thought a cheeky bid and TW would be "ours" but I couldnt see it happening as he was massively too good for us - and proved it with 42 (?) England Caps
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Jonathan on January 03, 2020, 08:22:50 pm
Hull tend to sign their loan players with a view to a permanent deal being agreed. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with this one in the summer. I think Kane needs to leave Liverpool to progress his career.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: PDX_Rover on January 03, 2020, 10:00:28 pm
As IDM said, McCann did an excellent job for us. It's the manner of his departure and Hull's underhand approach that leaves the bad taste. Kitsons.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Colin C No.3 on January 03, 2020, 11:01:26 pm
Herbie & Malik are deservedly playing in the Championship which, at this stage of their careers, is the ‘right level’ for them to be playing at.

We are not a Championship club.

We cannot afford to pay players Championship wages.

Not yet....
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: jackthelad on January 03, 2020, 11:38:31 pm
No real surprise here and I don’t think we ever really stood a chance of getting him back... sentiment aside, who would Herbie even entertain the thought of playing again at this level after such a successful season last year?

I hope he does well, even if it for McCann and Hull. Really hope he kicks on with his career as the next couple of seasons could be massive fro his future.

At least it’s done and dusted now aswell and we can move on throughout January without everybody saying we are signing him etc.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: roversdude on January 04, 2020, 12:30:57 pm
Can’t argue with last season in both how we played and where we ended up. It was after the season ended and GM dismantling the team quoting loyalty and then doing one that irks. I can’t honestly blame him for moving on, if only he hadn’t preached first. Absolutely no respect for Hull in how they handled things. Can’t wait for a prem club to approach GM underhandedly
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: IDM on January 04, 2020, 02:06:21 pm
Playing for Hull today..
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 04, 2020, 02:15:18 pm
Just been watching Rotherham Vs Hull.

Christ, Hull are dreadful. Our team from last season would have played them off the park.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on January 04, 2020, 02:38:44 pm
Just been watching Rotherham Vs Hull.

Christ, Hull are dreadful. Our team from last season would have played them off the park.

but it was the "eaves of destruction for Rotherham"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZVu0alU0I
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 04, 2020, 02:41:59 pm
Very good assist from Kane for Hull's 2nd.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: dickos1 on January 04, 2020, 03:08:08 pm
Hull are having a great season under mccann
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 04, 2020, 03:15:06 pm
Hull are having a great season under mccann

That's as mebbe. They were f**king dreadful today. Couldn't string two passes together against ten men. They ground out the result.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on January 04, 2020, 03:23:12 pm
Stelling must be having an "orgasm" at the minute   Oxford 0 Hartlepool 1  after 17 minutes
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 04, 2020, 03:40:40 pm
Hull City are 3 points better off than they were at the same point last season. They got exactly as far in the League Cup this season, as last season.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: dickos1 on January 04, 2020, 03:46:17 pm
They had a disastrous second half of the season last year having been around the top 6 until the turn of the year
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 04, 2020, 03:59:47 pm
In the first half of last season in the Championship, Hull City obtained 27 points from 23 games.

In the second half of last season in the Championship, Hull City obtained 35 points from 23 games.

The performance of Hull City in the second half of last season was around 25pc better than in the first half of last season.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: dickos1 on January 04, 2020, 04:12:16 pm
Aye
It may have been the season before, I can recall a season when they were one of favourites to go down but they started off really well but then dropped like a stone and only just stayed up
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 04, 2020, 04:14:23 pm
Hull are having a better season than I thought to be honest. I’ve seen them twice this season and wasn’t very impressed, but they do know how to grind out a result. They’re very reliant on Bowen who may be going to Villa this month. We all know GM is a good manager though, even if he is an unscrupulous tosser.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 04, 2020, 04:23:55 pm
It will be interesting if Bowen and Grosiki leave this window also. See Eaves (one from the list) got  hatrick against league one club. Could be here had GM stayed
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: drfchound on January 04, 2020, 08:40:03 pm
Hull are having a great season under mccann

That's as mebbe. They were f**king dreadful today. Couldn't string two passes together against ten men. They ground out the result.






Did Hull play an under usual strength team today.
If so, perhaps that is why they weren’t too clever.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: donnievic on January 04, 2020, 09:05:55 pm
Hull are having a great season under mccann

That's as mebbe. They were f**king dreadful today. Couldn't string two passes together against ten men. They ground out the result.






Did Hull play an under usual strength team today.
If so, perhaps that is why they weren’t too clever.
micture but did leave there 2 best players on the bench for 1st hour or so
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Retdon1 on January 04, 2020, 10:14:34 pm
Grosiki Is out of contract this summer. Idd be very surprised if a lower Prem side of team from abroad don’t go for him
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: eastender on February 11, 2020, 11:20:39 pm
Looks like he's played his last game for Hull , out for 3 months with Ankle ligament injury.


Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 11, 2020, 11:42:24 pm
That's sad to hear. Football can be a very harsh game!
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Colin C No.3 on February 12, 2020, 10:03:47 am
As Reece James may well be reflecting on this morning.

We’ve had our share over the years.

Alick, Alan Brown, Ray Deans, Kevin McKintyre (right spelling?), Sean McDaid, Jermaine McSporran......
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on February 12, 2020, 10:08:00 am
As Reece James may well be reflecting on this morning.

We’ve had our share over the years.

Alick, Alan Brown, Ray Deans....anymore?

Good call - Stuart Beattie was another
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: IDM on February 12, 2020, 10:13:40 am
Alan Warboys finished with an injury didn’t he.?

Willie Boyd.. Sean McDaid..
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 12, 2020, 10:40:08 am
Alan Little was never the same player after he did his cruciate ligament.

I still wince thinking about the one. Near the touchline on the Main Stand side, just outside the Cowsheds End box. He turned and his lower leg didn't because his studs caught in the turf. I swear I heard a crack as his knee ligaments went but that might be an embellishment on a 40 year old horror story.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Colin C No.3 on February 12, 2020, 10:54:56 am
Alan Warboys finished with an injury didn’t he.?

Willie Boyd.. Sean McDaid..
Went to modify the post IDM as I could picture McSporran going down the night he dislocated his knee but couldn’t bring his name to mind ( I remember it being an ‘unusual’ one!) so you beat me to the punch with McDaid.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: DearneValleyRover on February 12, 2020, 10:55:50 am
Alan Little was never the same player after he did his cruciate ligament.

I still wince thinking about the one. Near the touchline on the Main Stand side, just outside the Cowsheds End box. He turned and his lower leg didn't because his studs caught in the turf. I swear I heard a crack as his knee ligaments went but that might be an embellishment on a 40 year old horror story.

It isn’t Billy as I did mine in exactly the same way although I was playing rugby, it was a sevens tournament and 4 games were being played, they all stopped when it happened as they thought someone had just fired a shotgun. If anything you are probably playing down what you heard.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 12, 2020, 11:20:36 am
Thanks for that DVR! I won't sleep tonight.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Prez on February 12, 2020, 11:36:49 am
Mike Jeffrey another player who was never the same after a bad injury.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: bigbadjack on February 12, 2020, 11:45:51 am
Did Ian Measham break his neck?
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 12, 2020, 11:58:49 am
Broke A BONE in his neck.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: RobTheRover on February 12, 2020, 12:19:53 pm
Alan Little was never the same player after he did his cruciate ligament.

I still wince thinking about the one. Near the touchline on the Main Stand side, just outside the Cowsheds End box. He turned and his lower leg didn't because his studs caught in the turf. I swear I heard a crack as his knee ligaments went but that might be an embellishment on a 40 year old horror story.

It isn’t Billy as I did mine in exactly the same way although I was playing rugby, it was a sevens tournament and 4 games were being played, they all stopped when it happened as they thought someone had just fired a shotgun. If anything you are probably playing down what you heard.

Mine was the same.  Went with a right crack.  Scared the crap out off me.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 12, 2020, 12:52:17 pm
Yer gret bunch of jessies. I never had any football injury like that. I put it down to being built from granite. Our kid would claim it's because I was the neshest left back in the Dearne Sunday League.

I did once score two goals in a match after breaking my arm. I'd fallen heavily on a frozen pitch and thought I'd sprained my wrist. Hurt like buggery. We'd used all our subs so I got stuck out on the wing just holding my arm close to my chest and booting the ball away whenever it came near me. The defence realised I was no use (in fairness, they ought to have spotted that at kick-off) and left me alone. Then twice in 5 mins, we launched the ball out of defence and I was left unmarked to run through and score from the edge of the box. Went to A&E after the match and found I'd cracked my radius, just up from the wrist. So clearly not THAT nesh.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Colin C No.3 on February 12, 2020, 01:14:43 pm
Yer gret bunch of jessies. I never had any football injury like that. I put it down to being built from granite. Our kid would claim it's because I was the neshest left back in the Dearne Sunday League.

I did once score two goals in a match after breaking my arm. I'd fallen heavily on a frozen pitch and thought I'd sprained my wrist. Hurt like buggery. We'd used all our subs so I got stuck out on the wing just holding my arm close to my chest and booting the ball away whenever it came near me. The defence realised I was no use (in fairness, they ought to have spotted that at kick-off) and left me alone. Then twice in 5 mins, we launched the ball out of defence and I was left unmarked to run through and score from the edge of the box. Went to A&E after the match and found I'd cracked my radius, just up from the wrist. So clearly not THAT nesh.

Yer went to A&E?!

Me dad would ‘ave rubbed some iodine on it & ‘ad me cutting is grass wi’ ‘is push mower...that’s PUSH not PLUSH!
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 12, 2020, 01:51:36 pm
Broke A BONE in his neck.

Away at Torquay if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Filo on February 12, 2020, 02:02:43 pm
Yer gret bunch of jessies. I never had any football injury like that. I put it down to being built from granite. Our kid would claim it's because I was the neshest left back in the Dearne Sunday League.

I did once score two goals in a match after breaking my arm. I'd fallen heavily on a frozen pitch and thought I'd sprained my wrist. Hurt like buggery. We'd used all our subs so I got stuck out on the wing just holding my arm close to my chest and booting the ball away whenever it came near me. The defence realised I was no use (in fairness, they ought to have spotted that at kick-off) and left me alone. Then twice in 5 mins, we launched the ball out of defence and I was left unmarked to run through and score from the edge of the box. Went to A&E after the match and found I'd cracked my radius, just up from the wrist. So clearly not THAT nesh.

Yer went to A&E?!

Me dad would ‘ave rubbed some iodine on it & ‘ad me cutting is grass wi’ ‘is push mower...that’s PUSH not PLUSH!

Iodine???

f**king luxury!

Wehad to make do with cold water from the tap 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Drover on February 12, 2020, 02:09:33 pm
Was'nt it a broken bone in the neck that ended Bruno Jones career? Steve Brooker,Kevin Horlock although I think they was like McSporran,somewhat injury prone before joining us.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: tommy toes on February 12, 2020, 02:12:45 pm
Iodine?
Water?
When I broke me leg ont pitch our dad amputated it wi an atchet,  screwed in a barley twist leg off grandma's parlour table an pushed me straight back on. I got an at trick despite woodworm an all
 
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on February 12, 2020, 04:07:11 pm
Iodine?
Water?
When I broke me leg ont pitch our dad amputated it wi an atchet,  screwed in a barley twist leg off grandma's parlour table an pushed me straight back on. I got an at trick despite woodworm an all
 
Sorry, tommy, but I don’t believe a word of what you say!   :lol:
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Colin C No.3 on February 12, 2020, 04:22:33 pm
Iodine?
Water?
When I broke me leg ont pitch our dad amputated it wi an atchet,  screwed in a barley twist leg off grandma's parlour table an pushed me straight back on. I got an at trick despite woodworm an all
 

Well I'd tek me 'at off t' thee tommy lad 'cept I can't on account o' me dad nailin' it t' me 'ed to stop it comin' off wen I were up a cleanin' them there Victorian chimneys wi nowt more un a sprig o' lucky heather me dad bought from a gypsy who called at us'door on race week an sed it ud bring family good luck 'n all.

I reckon it dunt work mesen.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: DRNaith on February 12, 2020, 05:20:26 pm
Iodine?
Water?
When I broke me leg ont pitch our dad amputated it wi an atchet,  screwed in a barley twist leg off grandma's parlour table an pushed me straight back on. I got an at trick despite woodworm an all
 

You are Nick Fenton, I claim my five pounds!!
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Draytonian III on February 12, 2020, 05:25:39 pm
I was at Torquay that day Ian Measham got injured, it wasn’t the worst of fouls he just seem to land funny
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on February 12, 2020, 06:47:26 pm
Was'nt it a broken bone in the neck that ended Bruno Jones career? Steve Brooker,Kevin Horlock although I think they was like McSporran,somewhat injury prone before joining us.
Yes it was. He was injured around the same time as Johnny Muir and our front line disappeard in the blink of an eye. I don’t think either of them played much afterwards. For a few years later I used to see Bruno occasionally in Bawtry. Even with a bad neck I wouldn’t have messed with him.,
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: idler on February 12, 2020, 07:05:52 pm
Yer gret bunch of jessies. I never had any football injury like that. I put it down to being built from granite. Our kid would claim it's because I was the neshest left back in the Dearne Sunday League.

I did once score two goals in a match after breaking my arm. I'd fallen heavily on a frozen pitch and thought I'd sprained my wrist. Hurt like buggery. We'd used all our subs so I got stuck out on the wing just holding my arm close to my chest and booting the ball away whenever it came near me. The defence realised I was no use (in fairness, they ought to have spotted that at kick-off) and left me alone. Then twice in 5 mins, we launched the ball out of defence and I was left unmarked to run through and score from the edge of the box. Went to A&E after the match and found I'd cracked my radius, just up from the wrist. So clearly not THAT nesh.

Yer went to A&E?!

Me dad would ‘ave rubbed some iodine on it & ‘ad me cutting is grass wi’ ‘is push mower...that’s PUSH not PLUSH!

Iodine???

f**king luxury!

Wehad to make do with cold water from the tap 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: PDX_Rover on February 13, 2020, 03:37:54 pm
Was'nt it a broken bone in the neck that ended Bruno Jones career? Steve Brooker,Kevin Horlock although I think they was like McSporran,somewhat injury prone before joining us.
Yes it was. He was injured around the same time as Johnny Muir and our front line disappeard in the blink of an eye. I don’t think either of them played much afterwards. For a few years later I used to see Bruno occasionally in Bawtry. Even with a bad neck I wouldn’t have messed with him.,

Apparently did his neck in getting into an altercation in Park Lane.
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: Donnywolf on February 13, 2020, 03:47:04 pm
Iodine?
Water?
When I broke me leg ont pitch our dad amputated it wi an atchet,  screwed in a barley twist leg off grandma's parlour table an pushed me straight back on. I got an at trick despite woodworm an all
 
Sorry, tommy, but I don’t believe a word of what you say!   :lol:

Whoa Whoa - I happen to know him well and ....

.... you are absolutely right
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: sha66y on February 13, 2020, 06:58:26 pm
He should’ve made it clear he wanted to join us, .....fate has a way of kicking back....he would look great in our current set up
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: DearneValleyRover on February 14, 2020, 06:48:17 pm
Not even on the bench tonight
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: dickos1 on February 14, 2020, 06:55:10 pm
Not even on the bench tonight

Eh?
He’s out for around 3 months
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: DearneValleyRover on February 14, 2020, 07:02:46 pm
Not even on the bench tonight

Eh?
He’s out for around 3 months

I didn’t know but thanks for telling me
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: dickos1 on February 14, 2020, 07:42:48 pm
It’s in this very thread
Title: Re: Herbie Kane
Post by: DearneValleyRover on February 14, 2020, 07:53:30 pm
It’s in this very thread

I haven’t read it I do apologise