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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: RugbyRover on January 07, 2020, 10:24:08 am
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remain at the club......"and long may it continue" according to DM.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p003wb32/clips
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He had already said they were contracted to the end of the month and that remains the same. Again, I would expect him to be coy about anything beyond that.
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To be fair he's hardly likely to publicly say they're shit and he wants rid when we still might need to call on them before the end of the month...
If they are actually here when the window closes I'll be disappointed, but take this with a grain of salt.
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I just find it frustrating how we’re always working around the clock but then we end up with nothing yet other clubs have already signed some of their targets.
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Yes that is frustrating but what else can be done.?
There are two sides to every transfer deal.
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I would prefer to give some of the youth team players a place on the bench for experience.
Hopefully, sooner rather than later, we’ll get better in.
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Yes that is frustrating but what else can be done.?
There are two sides to every transfer deal.
I don’t know to be honest, but if it keeps happening then we surely need to be looking at why.
Rivals such as fleetwood, Peterborough and Portsmouth did lots of businesss in the summer and they’ve already recruited good players in January, whereas we struggled in the summer so you’d like to think we had deals lined up for January but Moore states there’s nothing at the minute
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Yes that is frustrating but what else can be done.?
There are two sides to every transfer deal.
I don’t know to be honest, but if it keeps happening then we surely need to be looking at why.
Rivals such as fleetwood, Peterborough and Portsmouth did lots of businesss in the summer and they’ve already recruited good players in January, whereas we struggled in the summer so you’d like to think we had deals lined up for January but Moore states there’s nothing at the minute
Agreed Dickos, the fact that other clubs seem to be able to “get deals over the line” whereas we have recently failed is what puts doubt into the minds of supporters.
We have five games to play before the end of January and it is very clear that we need a decent striker as soon as possible as well as a “Wellens” type midfielder.
I dearly hope we don’t let this run too long before we strengthen the team.
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To be fair he's hardly likely to publicly say they're shit and he wants rid when we still might need to call on them before the end of the month...
If they are actually here when the window closes I'll be disappointed, but take this with a grain of salt.
I hear what you saying but in his previous RS interview DM did state that he would be telling Bingham and Thomas their fate after the Oxford game. So if he's publicly saying they are going to be here and "long may it continue" then I fear the worst.
Also when Alfie May was allowed to leave before we had replacements in the building, one reason given was that because we were a nice club we couldn't stand in his way. I'm guessing a nice club like ours wouldn't want to string these two guys along if there was nothing for them here. Surely we would tell them early, so they could get fixed up somewhere else?
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I will be furious if these two are extended.
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To be fair he's hardly likely to publicly say they're shit and he wants rid when we still might need to call on them before the end of the month...
If they are actually here when the window closes I'll be disappointed, but take this with a grain of salt.
I hear what you saying but in his previous RS interview DM did state that he would be telling Bingham and Thomas their fate after the Oxford game. So if he's publicly saying they are going to be here and "long may it continue" then I fear the worst.
Also when Alfie May was allowed to leave before we had replacements in the building, one reason given was that because we were a nice club we couldn't stand in his way. I'm guessing a nice club like ours wouldn't want to string these two guys along if there was nothing for them here. Surely we would tell them early, so they could get fixed up somewhere else?
I think you've misheard.
What DM actually said was the two lads were still here (their contracts run until the end of the month) and that they were talking to their agents, and long may that continue. He was being his normal polite self!
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Talking to their agents? About what?
Surely, we’re not even considering signing these two?
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Talking to their agents? About what?
Surely, we’re not even considering signing these two?
You're speculating Alan.
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To be fair he's hardly likely to publicly say they're shit and he wants rid when we still might need to call on them before the end of the month...
If they are actually here when the window closes I'll be disappointed, but take this with a grain of salt.
I hear what you saying but in his previous RS interview DM did state that he would be telling Bingham and Thomas their fate after the Oxford game. So if he's publicly saying they are going to be here and "long may it continue" then I fear the worst.
Also when Alfie May was allowed to leave before we had replacements in the building, one reason given was that because we were a nice club we couldn't stand in his way. I'm guessing a nice club like ours wouldn't want to string these two guys along if there was nothing for them here. Surely we would tell them early, so they could get fixed up somewhere else?
I think you've misheard.
What DM actually said was the two lads were still here (their contracts run until the end of the month) and that they were talking to their agents, and long may that continue. He was being his normal polite self!
"both players are still with us, and long may that continue".............. I heard it loud and clear at 2.03 into the clip. DM goes on to say that we are discussing extensions with their agents.
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Talking to their agents? About what?
Surely, we’re not even considering signing these two?
You're speculating Alan.
Why are we talking to their agents?
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Would hope he gives our youngsters a chance over these two.cannot be any worse and will help them get used to league football.
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To be fair he's hardly likely to publicly say they're shit and he wants rid when we still might need to call on them before the end of the month...
If they are actually here when the window closes I'll be disappointed, but take this with a grain of salt.
I hear what you saying but in his previous RS interview DM did state that he would be telling Bingham and Thomas their fate after the Oxford game. So if he's publicly saying they are going to be here and "long may it continue" then I fear the worst.
Also when Alfie May was allowed to leave before we had replacements in the building, one reason given was that because we were a nice club we couldn't stand in his way. I'm guessing a nice club like ours wouldn't want to string these two guys along if there was nothing for them here. Surely we would tell them early, so they could get fixed up somewhere else?
I think you've misheard.
What DM actually said was the two lads were still here (their contracts run until the end of the month) and that they were talking to their agents, and long may that continue. He was being his normal polite self!
"both players are still with us, and long may that continue".............. I heard it loud and clear at 2.03 into the clip. DM goes on to say that we are discussing extensions with their agents.
Yes but listen to the rest of it, at no point does he say we're looking at extending their contracts.
He says, 'both players are looking to extend their contracts'. He doesn't say we are. He then says his focus has been on the festive period. and concludes by saying 'its a discussion that has to be had with the two players and their advisors', 'and as when we're a bit clearer on that we'll come back to you'.
So, were does he say what DRFC want to do?
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Talking to their agents? About what?
Surely, we’re not even considering signing these two?
You're speculating Alan.
Why are we talking to their agents?
Their agents will be wanting to keep dialogue open in the hope they get the best for their players.
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Extending them would be laughable.
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To be fair he's hardly likely to publicly say they're shit and he wants rid when we still might need to call on them before the end of the month...
If they are actually here when the window closes I'll be disappointed, but take this with a grain of salt.
I hear what you saying but in his previous RS interview DM did state that he would be telling Bingham and Thomas their fate after the Oxford game. So if he's publicly saying they are going to be here and "long may it continue" then I fear the worst.
Also when Alfie May was allowed to leave before we had replacements in the building, one reason given was that because we were a nice club we couldn't stand in his way. I'm guessing a nice club like ours wouldn't want to string these two guys along if there was nothing for them here. Surely we would tell them early, so they could get fixed up somewhere else?
I think you've misheard.
What DM actually said was the two lads were still here (their contracts run until the end of the month) and that they were talking to their agents, and long may that continue. He was being his normal polite self!
"both players are still with us, and long may that continue".............. I heard it loud and clear at 2.03 into the clip. DM goes on to say that we are discussing extensions with their agents.
Yes but listen to the rest of it, at no point does he say we're looking at extending their contracts.
He says, 'both players are looking to extend their contracts'. He doesn't say we are. He then says his focus has been on the festive period. and concludes by saying 'its a discussion that has to be had with the two players and their advisors', 'and as when we're a bit clearer on that we'll come back to you'.
So, were does he say what DRFC want to do?
if DRFC didn't want to extend I would suggest the conversation would have been a pretty short one and would have been concluded by now.
Lets see how things pan out. I hope you are right and DRFC don't want to.
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To be fair he's hardly likely to publicly say they're shit and he wants rid when we still might need to call on them before the end of the month...
If they are actually here when the window closes I'll be disappointed, but take this with a grain of salt.
I hear what you saying but in his previous RS interview DM did state that he would be telling Bingham and Thomas their fate after the Oxford game. So if he's publicly saying they are going to be here and "long may it continue" then I fear the worst.
Also when Alfie May was allowed to leave before we had replacements in the building, one reason given was that because we were a nice club we couldn't stand in his way. I'm guessing a nice club like ours wouldn't want to string these two guys along if there was nothing for them here. Surely we would tell them early, so they could get fixed up somewhere else?
I think you've misheard.
What DM actually said was the two lads were still here (their contracts run until the end of the month) and that they were talking to their agents, and long may that continue. He was being his normal polite self!
"both players are still with us, and long may that continue".............. I heard it loud and clear at 2.03 into the clip. DM goes on to say that we are discussing extensions with their agents.
Yes but listen to the rest of it, at no point does he say we're looking at extending their contracts.
He says, 'both players are looking to extend their contracts'. He doesn't say we are. He then says his focus has been on the festive period. and concludes by saying 'its a discussion that has to be had with the two players and their advisors', 'and as when we're a bit clearer on that we'll come back to you'.
So, were does he say what DRFC want to do?
if DRFC didn't want to extend I would suggest the conversation would have been a pretty short one and would have been concluded by now.
Lets see how things pan out. I hope you are right and DRFC don't want to.
This is 2 young lads who are on short term contracts, currently we don't have to do anything.
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Although as you relayed to us yesterday we should help them in their career as we did with May?
Keeping them here all month when we don’t want them wouldn't be paramount to doing our best for them
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Talking to their agents could imply helping them to move on, couldn’t it.?
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Although as you relayed to us yesterday we should help them in their career as we did with May?
Keeping them here all month when we don’t want them wouldn't be paramount to doing our best for them
Completely different scenario.
And do you not think we are helping them with their career by keeping them around? Now, if they had an offer from Cheltenham for example, I'm sure we'd release them from their contracts.
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Although as you relayed to us yesterday we should help them in their career as we did with May?
Keeping them here all month when we don’t want them wouldn't be paramount to doing our best for them
Nothing stopping them or their agents speaking to other clubs, which I would guess they are doing already.
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Surely they would rather be earning a wage here whilst looking for another club than just walking away?
Their next club will probably mean a pay cut as well.
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Although as you relayed to us yesterday we should help them in their career as we did with May?
Keeping them here all month when we don’t want them wouldn't be paramount to doing our best for them
Completely different scenario.
And do you not think we are helping them with their career by keeping them around? Now, if they had an offer from Cheltenham for example, I'm sure we'd release them from their contracts.
I’m not sure we would.
Just hope these aren’t the only two striker we have at the club in a months time
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We can all agree on that.
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Maybe the discussion are on the back burner just incase we can’t get players in. Leaving options open. I wouldn’t but I’m not the DM who is working hard to get players in and CEO who will trying hard to “get signings done”
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It will be interesting on here if one of them scores a couple tonight
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I think there’s more chance of dieng getting a couple
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Thomas has already got a couple in a game for us.
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At the moment, if they have to play, it would be great if they score especially if we win the game..
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It will be interesting on here if one of them scores a couple tonight
I’m pretty sure everyone would want them to score 5 in the game if they played! It’s just obvious they aren’t good enough unfortunately
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Selby, are you suggesting they are good enough? If so, then you need to book an appointment at Specsavers!
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Would say absolutely everything I need to know about the clubs ambition if these two were extended and that's that.
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Thomas’s strike rate is superior to May’s, Thomas isn’t a cultured player but he gives you a physical presence, what really did May give us. Fleetwood spend money like nobody, is that what we want? Unsustainable
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Would say absolutely everything I need to know about the clubs ambition if these two were extended and that's that.
I'm struggling to understand that these two would be a sign of the clubs ambition, but Whiteman, Anderson, Dieng etc are aren't?
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None of those 3 are strikers and 1 of them is a loan?
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SM, look at the dross what’s been brought in compared with what’s left, is that a sign of ambition???
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What you want to achieve, what you try to achieve, and what you actually achieve are different things..
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What you want to achieve, what you try to achieve, and what you actually achieve are different things..
Or what you want, what you try your best to get, and what you can actually compete for are different things.
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It’s worrying if we don’t get players in through the door we are in a perfect position to kick on and get in the playoffs with the games in hand and the gap shortening .
You have to see the lack of strength in depth is blatant How is a big turnover of players probably in the summer going to be beneficial
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Thomas has already got a couple in a game for us.
does he not have 3 whoopydoo 3 on half a season that will sort it automatic premonition then 😁
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Thomas’s strike rate is superior to May’s, Thomas isn’t a cultured player but he gives you a physical presence, what really did May give us. Fleetwood spend money like nobody, is that what we want? Unsustainable
that does not matter may has gone now
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Would say absolutely everything I need to know about the clubs ambition if these two were extended and that's that.
I'm struggling to understand that these two would be a sign of the clubs ambition, but Whiteman, Anderson, Dieng etc are aren't?
Those three show good ambition that I expect to continue. Signing on these two would take it back to square one. There's no way you can justify signing on two Conference players (I actually think Bingham is Sunday League quality) during a transfer window and claim to have enough ambition to take us to the next level, just no way.
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None of those 3 are strikers and 1 of them is a loan?
That wasn't the point being made. Where did the poster refer to strikers and the clubs ambition?
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Would say absolutely everything I need to know about the clubs ambition if these two were extended and that's that.
I'm struggling to understand that these two would be a sign of the clubs ambition, but Whiteman, Anderson, Dieng etc are aren't?
Those three show good ambition that I expect to continue. Signing on these two would take it back to square one. There's no way you can justify signing on two Conference players (I actually think Bingham is Sunday League quality) during a transfer window and claim to have enough ambition to take us to the next level, just no way.
Well at least you appreciate that. But the point still is that we haven't signed these beyond their short contracts and yet some posters are apoplectic.
I'm so glad I'm not an owner of this club.
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If I was an owner of this club I think I would pack it in, and not put up with all the crap that's written on here.
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They’ll expect some criticism I’m sure, gavin isn’t daft he’ll know the quality of the squad compared to recent seasons isn’t the same.
And I’m sure he’ll be hoping Darren gets the signings in this window
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I think they would take a pragmatic view..
Out of the several thousand regular attendees and those who don’t go to matches, how many of their are there on here, Twitter and Facebook who regularly criticise the club.? Dozens, maybe a hundred or so, but there will be a “silent majority” who may read such media but don’t post negativity.
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Alan, I went to spec savers in November, and am quite happy with their product thank you.
As for Thomas I would be extending his contract.
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I would keep Thomas and let Bingham go
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I would keep Thomas and let Bingham go
What has Thomas done to suggest to you he’s good enough for league one?
I would keep him if we don’t sign a striker this January but I’m sure the club wouldn’t be so stupid... would they?
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If I was an owner of this club I think I would pack it in, and not put up with all the crap that's written on here.
What do you mean ‘pack it in?’
You would leave the club you support in ruins because of a few posts on a forum?
I’m now reminded why I don’t look at this site anymore, just constant criticism to anyone who even questions the clubs transfer policy. It’s just exhausting.
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That wasn't the point being made. Where did the poster refer to strikers and the clubs ambition?
The poster of the original comment has re-enforced what he meant. Where I was coming from was that the 2 players being referred to, are both ‘strikers’ and the players to which you refer are not. That’s all. I tend to agree with him - it sets us back.
Why are any new signings taking so long, when we’ve known what our main problem has been since the start of the season?
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Talking to their agents could imply helping them to move on, couldn’t it.?
Oh my god I hope so.
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They're awful. They should be paying us to play that's what Sunday league standard players have to do.
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Thomas not in matchday squad, bingham on the bench...
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Would say absolutely everything I need to know about the clubs ambition if these two were extended and that's that.
I'm struggling to understand that these two would be a sign of the clubs ambition, but Whiteman, Anderson, Dieng etc are aren't?
Those three show good ambition that I expect to continue. Signing on these two would take it back to square one. There's no way you can justify signing on two Conference players (I actually think Bingham is Sunday League quality) during a transfer window and claim to have enough ambition to take us to the next level, just no way.
Well at least you appreciate that. But the point still is that we haven't signed these beyond their short contracts and yet some posters are apoplectic.
I'm so glad I'm not an owner of this club.
I totally get that, which is why I’m preserving judgement and not going wild over anything to do with it like others are. Like you said they’re our players till the end of Jan. Let’s hope we can find better.
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Thomas contact ended and has left the club good luck should get a national league club no problem
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So, this thread has been a complete and utter waste of time!
Oh ye of little faith!
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Thanks to Thomas for his efforts. Obviously he hasn’t been good enough in terms of quality, but he always looked to me like he was trying, and did manage to chip in with 3 goals. Good luck to him getting fixed up with a longer-term deal somewhere else.
I suspect that may be the last we see of Bingham tonight as well. It was only a brief cameo but when he was played through on goal he didn’t even look like scoring.
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1 down, 1 to go?
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Out of the two DM brought in, (clearly he felt he needed something rather than nothing) he was the better and I thought he'd have been a decent sub option. Which gives great optimism that he has a replacement lined up.
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Out of the two DM brought in, (clearly he felt he needed something rather than nothing) he was the better and I thought he'd have been a decent sub option. Which gives great optimism that he has a replacement lined up.
Getting them over the line is the hard part 😜