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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: wing commander on January 13, 2020, 01:49:02 pm
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Is he injured at Barnsley,noticed he hasn't even made the squad for quite a while???
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Is he injured at Barnsley,noticed he hasn't even made the squad for quite a while???
Out of favour. He's joining McCann and Kane at Hull.
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Barnsley fans hate him, they say he is very lazy and his attitude is all wrong
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Moore would make him a world beater.
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Barnsley fans hate him, they say he is very lazy and his attitude is all wrong
Everyone knows what he’s like. That’s where man management comes in.
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As at yesterday the Hull Daily Mail was indicating the deal had stalled and they were looking at Martin Samuelson from West Ham as an alternative. If I recall correctly Hull owe Barnsley a big chunk from another transfer and that was also muddying the waters.
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Would 100pc take him on loan for rest of season.
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I wish Darren would have him on loan
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Cheeky bid ?
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I'm surprised Barnsley want to loan him at all..He only joined them in the summer on a 4 year contract so if he's out of favour already that's a lot of loans for that period.
Would love him back but I bet he's on a decent wedge now and Barnsley will want to recuperate a lot of that..
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He would need to get himself fit first!
I’d sooner have the lad from Norwich.
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When is his court case due.
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To be fair it was Stendel who signed him. It could well be he just doesn't gel with the new manager. As we know he can potentially be a difficult character, luckily we had a manager last season who knew how to get him to channel that on the pitch.
No chance of getting him permanently you'd have thought, they spent over a million on him and you'd think they'd want at least half of that back even if they were desperate to cut their losses.
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As at yesterday the Hull Daily Mail was indicating the deal had stalled and they were looking at Martin Samuelson from West Ham as an alternative. If I recall correctly Hull owe Barnsley a big chunk from another transfer and that was also muddying the waters.
Angus MacDonald.
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To be fair it was Stendel who signed him. It could well be he just doesn't gel with the new manager. As we know he can potentially be a difficult character, luckily we had a manager last season who knew how to get him to channel that on the pitch.
No chance of getting him permanently you'd have thought, they spent over a million on him and you'd think they'd want at least half of that back even if they were desperate to cut their losses.
he dint do anything worth Stendel ether
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I thought he was overrated with us. He was good against crap full-backs but hardly got a look in against better ones. The fact that he'd be up against better full-backs in the Championship made it obvious (to me anyway) that he'd struggle there.
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I thought he was overrated with us. He was good against crap full-backs but hardly got a look in against better ones. The fact that he'd be up against better full-backs in the Championship made it obvious (to me anyway) that he'd struggle there.
I must say I liked him. I’ve watched Barnsley play 3 times this season (live but on tv) and I think I’m right in saying they played him in a different position to where we played him. As someone has eluded to - maybe out of position and not getting the best out of him.
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I thought he was overrated with us. He was good against crap full-backs but hardly got a look in against better ones. The fact that he'd be up against better full-backs in the Championship made it obvious (to me anyway) that he'd struggle there.
I must say I liked him. I’ve watched Barnsley play 3 times this season (live but on tv) and I think I’m right in saying they played him in a different position to where we played him. As someone has eluded to - maybe out of position and not getting the best out of him.
We played him out of position the whole time he was here. He saw himself as a striker before he come to us didn’t he?
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We're in a bit of a dilemma with Malik , Struber's wanting to strengthen the defensive positions but most of the budget was spent last summer .
Several players who are available seem to be attracting loan only arrangements , McGeehan's gone to Pompey on loan and Cavare looks likely to follow him to Fratton Park .
Jordan Green and Dani Pinillos aren't likely to attract bids of decent money so someone looks like being the sacrificial lamb .
Malik's out of favour at the moment and behind Jacob Brown , Luke Thomas and Simoes in the wide areas .
May have to cut our losses here and use the money effectively in the back four .
In an ideal world I'd keep the lad because I think he's got talent but needs must with this one .
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Have you heard anything about his possible destination, Tyke? If he is to leave in this window that is.
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I thought he was overrated with us. He was good against crap full-backs but hardly got a look in against better ones. The fact that he'd be up against better full-backs in the Championship made it obvious (to me anyway) that he'd struggle there.
I must say I liked him. I’ve watched Barnsley play 3 times this season (live but on tv) and I think I’m right in saying they played him in a different position to where we played him. As someone has eluded to - maybe out of position and not getting the best out of him.
We played him out of position the whole time he was here. He saw himself as a striker before he come to us didn’t he?
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Everyone’s entitled to their opinion like, but the bloke scored 16 goals from wide. I can’t think of many Rovers players who have achieved that over the years. There must have been a lot of crap full backs in L1 last season. :silly:
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Have you heard anything about his possible destination, Tyke? If he is to leave in this window that is.
Rumoured to be Hull but there's issues there because they still owe us money for Angus Macdonald two years on .
If they want him we are likely to tell them we want the full payment straight away .
Can't see any other championship clubs wanting him because he's done nowt here yet of note and obviously Hull may want him because of McCann .
I'd be wanting at least a million quid which rules out the majority of league one clubs .
I can't see anyone else leaving unless we are offered stupid money for Woodrow , Chaplin or Mowatt .
The ideal scenario is we keep Wilks and get two loans in to the defence but we don't like going down that route these days .
It's a funny one is this .
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The lads just 6 months in to a four year deal , the four years are to give him sufficient time to develop here so it's a bit disappointing for me if he leaves .
He's struggled because the whole team struggled for the first three months of the season .
Stendel then left the club and Struber's come in with a new formation that makes it difficult for Wilks to get on the pitch .
It's not really worked out for him as yet but as I say it's early days for me and he isn't the first young player to arrive at Oakwell and struggle initially before finding his feet .
Mowatt was loaned out to Oxford the last time we were in the championship but he's captain and a key player today .
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I thought he was overrated with us. He was good against crap full-backs but hardly got a look in against better ones. The fact that he'd be up against better full-backs in the Championship made it obvious (to me anyway) that he'd struggle there.
I must say I liked him. I’ve watched Barnsley play 3 times this season (live but on tv) and I think I’m right in saying they played him in a different position to where we played him. As someone has eluded to - maybe out of position and not getting the best out of him.
We played him out of position the whole time he was here. He saw himself as a striker before he come to us didn’t he?
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Everyone’s entitled to their opinion like, but the bloke scored 16 goals from wide. I can’t think of many Rovers players who have achieved that over the years. There must have been a lot of crap full backs in L1 last season. :silly:
Indeed there were a lot of crap full-backs in league one last year. The better ones that were good enough for the Championship were in a small minority.
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I enjoyed watching him more than any player over the last five years.
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I enjoyed watching him too especially when he ripped teams like Rochdale a new one..
But we have a player still on our books who can provide as much pleasure to watch in one game than most can do over a whole season..
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I enjoyed watching him too especially when he ripped teams like Rochdale a new one..
But we have a player still on our books who can provide as much pleasure to watch in one game than most can do over a whole season..
Oh no, not another one gushing over Rakish Bingham! :ohmy:
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Haha BB, it’s a good guess, but it’s not right.!
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The lads just 6 months in to a four year deal , the four years are to give him sufficient time to develop here so it's a bit disappointing for me if he leaves .
He's struggled because the whole team struggled for the first three months of the season .
Stendel then left the club and Struber's come in with a new formation that makes it difficult for Wilks to get on the pitch .
It's not really worked out for him as yet but as I say it's early days for me and he isn't the first young player to arrive at Oakwell and struggle initially before finding his feet .
Mowatt was loaned out to Oxford the last time we were in the championship but he's captain and a key player today .
I can't see you getting anywhere near 1 Mill fot a lad that is number 4 or 3 in the pecking order
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As a new manager, I think I would want to give a player who cost £1m ish, a bit more of a chance to prove himself.
Being cast aside at this stage of his career is not what he needs. However, if Barnsley's needs must as Tyke says, then it would make sense to regroup with McCann at Hull who knows him.
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I agree with you Bentley Bullet. At times he looked absolute quality. Other games not overly impressed
Maybe he’s been found out in the championship and his level is top end of league 1
I’d have him back because he was always a concern for defences because of his strength and aggression
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I've seen Barnsley on the telly 2 or 3 times this season and he's looked way out of his depth, so not surprising he can't get a game. There's a huge difference between League 1 and the Championship.
I think if Wilks has an issue or two they are that 1) he's a one trick pony: play on the right wing and cut in onto his left foot - a good Championship full back will soon suss that out, and 2) very lazy at tracking back and defending
I remember JET playing for us who had a similar game plan: cutting in from the right wing onto his left foot, but he was a far batter player
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To be fair it was Stendel who signed him. It could well be he just doesn't gel with the new manager. As we know he can potentially be a difficult character, luckily we had a manager last season who knew how to get him to channel that on the pitch.
No chance of getting him permanently you'd have thought, they spent over a million on him and you'd think they'd want at least half of that back even if they were desperate to cut their losses.
I think a bigger stumbling block to a permanent transfer would be the fact,Malik has 3 1/2 years left on his contract,why would he want to transfer?Be daft to transfer to another club on say a 2 year deal?
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Joined Hull City on loan for the rest of the season .
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Joined Hull City on loan for the rest of the season .
Makes sense. Good move for him.
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One that got away!
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One that got away!
Explains his visit the other week.
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One that got away!
Least we tried. Hope he does well.
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Did he “get away” because he wanted to play in the Championship Martin or was it something else?
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Maybe wanted to work with a manager he's played for in the past? (which isn't meant as criticism of DM incidentally)
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Possibly.
I was hoping that SM might be in a position to let us know.
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I really don’t like Hull City
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I'm not sure about Maliks approach to this. Did he have a preference? I'm not sure on that one.
Essentially it would be what's best for Barnsley.
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I would have loved him back here, but we can't compete with Championship sides.
On a personal note for Mallik, I think this will be a good move for him. McCann clearly found the knack for keeping his mind right and getting the best out of him, something that just didn't happen at Barnsley for whatever reason.
Be interesting to see if Wilks is tasked with filling the void left by Bowen, if Bowen is to leave in this window.
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I’d be very surprised if we even had a remote chance of getting him, the option to come to league 1, or play for championship must have been a no brainier, on top of that going back to play for a manager he knows.
Regardless of money if I were a pro I’d know where I’d have gone, and afraid to say I’d be going hull all day long
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Can’t blame him. Playing championship football for a manager that got the best out of him. Taking our DRFC bias off it’s a no brainier on paper
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I'm not sure about Maliks approach to this. Did he have a preference? I'm not sure on that one.
Essentially it would be what's best for Barnsley.
Always think it’s an interesting one when you loan a player to a club in the same division. Presumably when you say it’s best for Barnsley it’s because he can do some damage to other Championship clubs, but if they think he’s capable of doing that for a club pushing for the play offs then why wouldn’t he be capable of doing it for a club fighting relegation?
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Wouldn't it more likely to be that Hull can afford more of his wages than we can?
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Still having Grosiki and Bowen it will be interesting what playing time he will get unless one of them go. .
Another loan though, I feel with us already having four loans then any more coming in will wonder will I sat in the stand.
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I'm not sure about Maliks approach to this. Did he have a preference? I'm not sure on that one.
Essentially it would be what's best for Barnsley.
Always think it’s an interesting one when you loan a player to a club in the same division. Presumably when you say it’s best for Barnsley it’s because he can do some damage to other Championship clubs, but if they think he’s capable of doing that for a club pushing for the play offs then why wouldn’t he be capable of doing it for a club fighting relegation?
He just doesn't fit the system Struber plays Nick it's as simple as that really .
The lads occupying the roles you could possibly shoehorn Wilks in are way ahead of him in work rate and product .
Luke Thomas and Jacob Brown have massive energy , commitment and a final product and young Simoes comes off the bench to replace one of those two late in games and carrys on running the legs off defenders .
I think you'd agree that's not Wilks's game , I don't think Struber trusts him to carry out what he demands out on the pitch .
Stendel had him down to play wide left in his stock 4-4-2 system and we play a diamond formation under Struber .
I'd personally like to keep him at Oakwell for at least another full season but to be fair Struber's not got much wrong since his arrival .
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I see that Hull have an option to buy at the end of this seasons loan perhaps that’s one reason he went there.
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I'm not sure about Maliks approach to this. Did he have a preference? I'm not sure on that one.
Essentially it would be what's best for Barnsley.
Always think it’s an interesting one when you loan a player to a club in the same division. Presumably when you say it’s best for Barnsley it’s because he can do some damage to other Championship clubs, but if they think he’s capable of doing that for a club pushing for the play offs then why wouldn’t he be capable of doing it for a club fighting relegation?
He just doesn't fit the system Struber plays Nick it's as simple as that really .
The lads occupying the roles you could possibly shoehorn Wilks in are way ahead of him in work rate and product .
Luke Thomas and Jacob Brown have massive energy , commitment and a final product and young Simoes comes off the bench to replace one of those two late in games and carrys on running the legs off defenders .
I think you'd agree that's not Wilks's game , I don't think Struber trusts him to carry out what he demands out on the pitch .
Stendel had him down to play wide left in his stock 4-4-2 system and we play a diamond formation under Struber .
I'd personally like to keep him at Oakwell for at least another full season but to be fair Struber's not got much wrong since his arrival .
Does seem a daft signing. Two systems that neither get the best out of him. It'll be interesting to see how he does for Hull played in his favoured wide right position.
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On the bench today....