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Title: Average attendances
Post by: graingrover on January 15, 2020, 08:58:05 am
At the moment bang in line with our position in the league .
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendances
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: CantleyRed on January 15, 2020, 09:10:56 am
At the moment bang in line with our position in the league .
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendances
You get a good view of the actual crowd in the ground against Shrewsbury if you watch a YouTube Video by one of their fans, as you see the 3 home sides of the ground that we don't usually see. To say the crowd looked sparse would be an understatement. Maybe 4,000 home fans? Sorry can't post a link but it is called *Bad Day Out* Doncaster Rovers versus Shrewsbury Town. Although of course, if all clubs report attendances the same way, your point still stands.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: elmsallrover on January 15, 2020, 09:30:07 am
Still got some good travelling away support to come to the keep oat Coventry, Ipswich and Bolton
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: The Beast on January 15, 2020, 10:01:20 am
Could do with Scunny, Grimsby and Bratford getting up, Barnsley and Hudders coming down, too many sterile nothing games in this league this year, not meaning to be disrespectful as I always enjoy going to the Keepmoat but Shrewsbury, Bristol or Southend on a cold Tuesday night doesn’t get the heart pumping.
Think the club is making strides to improve the match day experience but it’s a tough battle with the fickle Doncaster public.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: SydneyRover on January 15, 2020, 11:14:39 am
This one Cantley?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU3Q7pjMn-g
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Michael Gibson on January 15, 2020, 11:35:57 am
I haven’t a clue where some of the attendances actually come from, the Shrewsbury game I agree that there was barely 4000 altogether.  The actual home support and bums on seats is dwindling fast and should be concerning, most of us go every home and it’s quite clear to see. For me there’s no ‘buzz’ these days and the lack of promoting games is bizarre coupled with the lack of ambition the days of a packed keepmoat are going to be a distant memory.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: SydneyRover on January 15, 2020, 12:03:40 pm
But, unless they have changed the way attences are counted which I doubt very much our attendances are up and SM has told us season ticket sales are up.

https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-league-one-2018-2019/1/
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: CantleyRed on January 15, 2020, 01:04:36 pm
This one Cantley?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU3Q7pjMn-g
Yes that's it. Thanks for posting the link.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 15, 2020, 01:08:04 pm
I haven’t a clue where some of the attendances actually come from, the Shrewsbury game I agree that there was barely 4000 altogether.  The actual home support and bums on seats is dwindling fast and should be concerning, most of us go every home and it’s quite clear to see. For me there’s no ‘buzz’ these days and the lack of promoting games is bizarre coupled with the lack of ambition the days of a packed keepmoat are going to be a distant memory.

Is there anything that you do enjoy about supporting the Rovers? Based on the content of your posts I would recommend knocking it on the head for the benefit of your general well-being.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: graingrover on January 15, 2020, 01:16:51 pm
The attendances probably include seats sold ( season tickets for example ) whether or not the purchaser is in attendance .
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 15, 2020, 01:39:42 pm
They do and for that game 4sth in my house plus a few other family also sth didnt go.  Last think I wanted to do with a horrid virus was sit in the cold.   Suspect plenty thought the same.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: IDM on January 15, 2020, 01:46:12 pm
I’m a sth and can’t get to every game either..
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: foxbat on January 15, 2020, 02:02:07 pm
Don't tell the Sith are here causing trouble as well as in Star Wars 😅
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Michael Gibson on January 15, 2020, 02:46:01 pm
Herbert I take it you’ve never been to the keepmoat with over 10k in??? It’s a great experience and great atmosphere when it’s rocking but unfortunately it’s going the other way.... 3 year ago there was a group of 9 of us every game with 7 sth, today there’s 3 of us 1 sth, Im not the only one who’s amazed at attendance claims
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 15, 2020, 03:48:53 pm
I would expect there are figures for actual bums on seats, not least for reviewing safety, stewarding and for refreshment purposes.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: vaya on January 15, 2020, 03:56:19 pm
Herbert I take it you’ve never been to the keepmoat with over 10k in??? It’s a great experience and great atmosphere when it’s rocking but unfortunately it’s going the other way.... 3 year ago there was a group of 9 of us every game with 7 sth, today there’s 3 of us 1 sth, Im not the only one who’s amazed at attendance claims

I'm not sure the club's responsible for people not wanting to go to games with you any longer.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Michael Gibson on January 15, 2020, 06:14:59 pm
Vaya obviously your another one with rose tinted glasses on with your ridiculous comments, facts are attendances are dwindling and are being covered up for some unknown reason.  I read somewhere LNER bought a boat load and distribute through several ways whether that’s correct I’m not to sure.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: silent majority on January 15, 2020, 06:21:14 pm
Vaya obviously your another one with rose tinted glasses on with your ridiculous comments, facts are attendances are dwindling and are being covered up for some unknown reason.  I read somewhere LNER bought a boat load and distribute through several ways whether that’s correct I’m not to sure.

Here we go again, I read/heard/saw/thought this so it must be true!

As a club we do NOT free issue boat loads of tickets to any organisation and then claim that as part of the attendance. We do, however, work with schools and other parts of the community to encourage youngsters to attend (catch them early) but only those attending on the day are counted as part of the official attendance.

But season tickets, year on year, have been growing for some time. And that's fact, not an opinion.

Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: elmsallrover on January 15, 2020, 06:36:07 pm
What's the brake even figure anyone know
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 15, 2020, 06:40:53 pm
Herbert I take it you’ve never been to the keepmoat with over 10k in??? It’s a great experience and great atmosphere when it’s rocking but unfortunately it’s going the other way.... 3 year ago there was a group of 9 of us every game with 7 sth, today there’s 3 of us 1 sth, Im not the only one who’s amazed at attendance claims

You mean you actually pay your hard earned to go to something that quite clearly pisses you off? I think you’re mad...or on a wind up.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Michael Gibson on January 15, 2020, 06:46:01 pm
Fully appreciate the efforts Sm of getting anyone through the gates and promoting the club. I wonder why the stay away fans are staying away?? The keepmoat full is a great experience and hopefully we can get bk to the good days.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 15, 2020, 07:03:31 pm
Probably 1k season tickets to kids in east stand and many won't go on midweek games
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: roversdude on January 15, 2020, 09:01:02 pm
It seems more populated in West Stand this season
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 15, 2020, 09:04:42 pm
Vaya obviously your another one with rose tinted glasses on with your ridiculous comments, facts are attendances are dwindling and are being covered up for some unknown reason.  I read somewhere LNER bought a boat load and distribute through several ways whether that’s correct I’m not to sure.

Where do you get this idea from that our attendances are dwindling?

Last year, we had our 2nd highest average attendance in Tier 3 since 1950. The only season higher was 1969/70?

Do you honestly think that the club inflates the ticket sales? Because, the way I see it, if we were reporting average attendances of 8,400, then returned accounts suggesting our income was commensurate with much lower ticket sales, it would raise serious suspicions from auditors and the Inland Revenue.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Dagenham Rover on January 15, 2020, 09:09:53 pm
It seems more populated in West Stand this season

Me and my lads moved from the South to the West this season mainly cos I'm classified as an old git now and there ain't much difference cost wise and I know where my seat is    :chair: but I don't think I'm fat enough  to make a noticeable difference
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 15, 2020, 09:44:16 pm
I think we've had a bit of a lull after the New Year which is nothing new and I'm sure we seriously hope it picks up again as results and performances deserve it.

As said on another thread, with some of the stuff we see on social media from some of the rays of sunshine out there and the endless speculation in the press, you'd think the club was in crisis. I just hope the average Rovers follower stays clear of it.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Campsall rover on January 15, 2020, 09:50:59 pm
Vaya obviously your another one with rose tinted glasses on with your ridiculous comments, facts are attendances are dwindling and are being covered up for some unknown reason.  I read somewhere LNER bought a boat load and distribute through several ways whether that’s correct I’m not to sure.

Where do you get this idea from that our attendances are dwindling?

Last year, we had our 2nd highest average attendance in Tier 3 since 1950. The only season higher was 1969/70?

Do you honestly think that the club inflates the ticket sales? Because, the way I see it, if we were reporting average attendances of 8,400, then returned accounts suggesting our income was commensurate with much lower ticket sales, it would raise serious suspicions from auditors and the Inland Revenue.
You beat me to it BST. I was just about to post something very similar.
Our attendances are on a season by season increase. This notion they are falling is complete fantasy.

Yes a lot of season ticket holders were obviously not at the game against Shrewsbury.
But gates are based on ticket sales not Bums on seats.
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: colincramb on January 15, 2020, 10:11:10 pm
It’s a Tuesday night after Christmas, just after we’d had 2 other home games against Sunderland and Oxford in quick succession.

Nonsense thread. No real point it continuing when the facts prove otherwise
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: CantleyRed on January 16, 2020, 08:26:36 am
Vaya obviously your another one with rose tinted glasses on with your ridiculous comments, facts are attendances are dwindling and are being covered up for some unknown reason.  I read somewhere LNER bought a boat load and distribute through several ways whether that’s correct I’m not to sure.

Where do you get this idea from that our attendances are dwindling?

Last year, we had our 2nd highest average attendance in Tier 3 since 1950. The only season higher was 1969/70?

Do you honestly think that the club inflates the ticket sales? Because, the way I see it, if we were reporting average attendances of 8,400, then returned accounts suggesting our income was commensurate with much lower ticket sales, it would raise serious suspicions from auditors and the Inland Revenue.
You beat me to it BST. I was just about to post something very similar.
Our attendances are on a season by season increase. This notion they are falling is complete fantasy.

Yes a lot of season ticket holders were obviously not at the game against Shrewsbury.
But gates are based on ticket sales not Bums on seats.
You surely mean "Our ticket sales are on a season by season increase" then, as no one knows what the actual attendances are. Anyway, it makes a change from the old days. I renember back in the 70s at OBV we always used to come away saying "There was no way just 3,000 there tonight, it looked a lot more to me. We must be fiddling the figures"
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Reesielad on January 22, 2020, 11:48:14 am
Didn’t want to start a new topic.

Peterborough has the lowest attendance last night this season, a mighty 3,851.

Interestingly, their was more at the game between Kings Lynn vs York in the National League North on Saturday.


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Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Pancho Regan on January 22, 2020, 01:00:51 pm
I know this is completely left-field, but indulge me anyway.....

I've often wondered how the 'random' Pukka-Pie-Time Donny Dog hand-out works?
How do they make sure the seat that's been chosen definitely has someone sitting in it?

Obviously they must send out a scout to 'randomly' choose a seat?

Could I have inadvertently uncovered 'Pie-Gate'.....?

Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: CantleyRed on January 22, 2020, 01:08:29 pm
I know this is completely left-field, but indulge me anyway.....

I've often wondered how the 'random' Pukka-Pie-Time Donny Dog hand-out works?
How do they make sure the seat that's been chosen definitely has someone sitting in it?

Obviously they must send out a scout to 'randomly' choose a seat?

Could I have inadvertently uncovered 'Pie-Gate'.....?


I have to say, the day I won the pies was definitely my finest hour at the Keepmoat. And I wasn't even sitting in my allocated seat so I'm assuming they send someone out first to hand pick the best looking guys 🤣
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Muttley on January 22, 2020, 05:51:39 pm
I know this is completely left-field, but indulge me anyway.....

I've often wondered how the 'random' Pukka-Pie-Time Donny Dog hand-out works?
How do they make sure the seat that's been chosen definitely has someone sitting in it?

Obviously they must send out a scout to 'randomly' choose a seat?

Could I have inadvertently uncovered 'Pie-Gate'.....?


I have to say, the day I won the pies was definitely my finest hour at the Keepmoat. And I wasn't even sitting in my allocated seat so I'm assuming they send someone out first to hand pick the best looking guys 🤣

That was probably the time my seat won it and I was sat elsewhere  :crying:
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: CantleyRed on January 22, 2020, 07:05:24 pm
I know this is completely left-field, but indulge me anyway.....

I've often wondered how the 'random' Pukka-Pie-Time Donny Dog hand-out works?
How do they make sure the seat that's been chosen definitely has someone sitting in it?

Obviously they must send out a scout to 'randomly' choose a seat?

Could I have inadvertently uncovered 'Pie-Gate'.....?


I have to say, the day I won the pies was definitely my finest hour at the Keepmoat. And I wasn't even sitting in my allocated seat so I'm assuming they send someone out first to hand pick the best looking guys 🤣

That was probably the time my seat won it and I was sat elsewhere  :crying:
I am sure if you were close to your seat I'd have given you one!
Title: Re: Average attendances
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 22, 2020, 07:20:00 pm
1 in 3 chance for the 3500 'actually' through the gates