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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on January 18, 2020, 05:24:04 pm
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Awful display, poor passing (Ben Sheif), and no movement up top!
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I thought the tactics and style were right but the forward players lacked. I dont see what more the manager could have done today which is damning of the current squad position.
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Absolutely awful, sack the board!!!!
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Absolutely awful, sack the board!!!!
Barring some existential crisis, they're not going to sack themselves.
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I thought the tactics and style were right but the forward players lacked. I dont see what more the manager could have done today which is damning of the current squad position.
WHAT was the tactics ?
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The most frustrating this is not having the players on the bench to change it. Come on board dig deep for the top 6 finish that you talk about.
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All we need is a more creative midfielder and a goal scorer and we have every chance of a top 6 finish, just not convinced we will sign any of them till the summer
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Waste of money today, bored for 90 minutes, never looked like doing anything.
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Which summer ?
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Got to disagree about Sheaf. Thought he was the only midfielder trying to make things happen. Whiteman and Copps were poor.
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All we need is a more creative midfielder and a goal scorer and we have every chance of a top 6 finish, just not convinced we will sign any of them till the summer
Ben Sheif is not the answer, I’d love to see his pass completion rate for Coventry, if he’s any aspirations of getting anywhere near the Arsenal first team he’s deluded, he’s been poor for a good bit now
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It’s clear that we are just not up to taking the games to teams. Sitting back and walking about without any urgency doesn’t constitute a tactic imo.
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Whiteman on the big bucks. Totally anonymous.
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All we need is a more creative midfielder and a goal scorer and we have every chance of a top 6 finish, just not convinced we will sign any of them till the summer
Ben Sheif is not the answer, I’d love to see his pass completion rate for Coventry, if he’s any aspirations of getting anywhere near the Arsenal first team he’s deluded, he’s been poor for a good bit now
Yep he’s been like that for ages. Don’t think I’ve seen him find a red and white shirt since it was short sleeves weather!
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Sheaf has not “been poor for a while,” he’s had some good games recently. Today was erratic but to his credit he’s always looking for the ball and trying to make things happen. It won’t always come off and he seems to be the ‘go to’ scapegoat for some. A lazy view in my opinion.
Ennis had a poor one today, probably the worst I’ve seen him play for us. Nothing stuck for him today and he looked way off. Not blaming him as he’s been great for us and it’s going to happen with young kids occasionally. Today we could have done with another option from the bench but sadly we don’t have one and that cost us on this occasion.
Coventry are a decent side and were just too good for us in the circumstances. It’s very hard to rely on an eleven to turn it on week in week out and it’s asking a lot of a teenage loanee to lead the line and take a beating from big strong defenders every week.
When we needed something different today, we didn’t have it. On to the next one.
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The Tactics my bum, all we did was pass long giving the ball away, not pressing the opposition and letting them pass unchallenged and get there shots off we could not get 2 passes together
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It’s clear for all to see surely? Get a bloody striker signed up Darren!!!
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I've been critical of Sheaf for his slack passing for a while but have also had to say in recent games he's been much improved. I saw a couple from him that didn't come off for us today but he was far from the worst. I've been holding back from criticising Whitman for a while but it has to be said he's been poor for too long now. He absolutely cannot play himself out of trouble and invariably plays the chip over his shoulder which invariably loses us possession.
The whole team was on their knees in the last ten minutes and it showed. There was no showing for the pass and every one of them choosing to turn back and pass to the back line when we needed to press forward and gamble on something coming off.
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All we need is a more creative midfielder and a goal scorer and we have every chance of a top 6 finish, just not convinced we will sign any of them till the summer
Ben Sheif is not the answer, I’d love to see his pass completion rate for Coventry, if he’s any aspirations of getting anywhere near the Arsenal first team he’s deluded, he’s been poor for a good bit now
Sheaf was our best player against oxford the other week
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Today we needed more than a striker, playing 6 across the back is screaming to be punished..and we got punished....
this team is just not good enough to be promotion contenders ...
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Very lucky to get nil today, don't know what the answer is but it is not young kids borrowed from premier league teams.
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Absolutely awful, sack the board!!!!
Who can sack the people that own something? :laugh:
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Losing and on the 80th min deing is stood with the ball and nobody offers a run or or movement he passes out and low and behold 3 passes later Coventry have it back
When teams have ten behind the ball you won't able to pass through them
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If people keep saying sack the board, they will get what thwy wish for, because they Will have had enough of the back biting, they will walk away then no club and no team
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All we need is a more creative midfielder and a goal scorer and we have every chance of a top 6 finish, just not convinced we will sign any of them till the summer
Ben Sheif is not the answer, I’d love to see his pass completion rate for Coventry, if he’s any aspirations of getting anywhere near the Arsenal first team he’s deluded, he’s been poor for a good bit now
Dieng - 85.3%
Halliday - 70%
James - 68.4%
Anderson - 61.7%
Wright - 77.1%
Whiteman - 79.2%
Sheaf - 78.3%
Taylor - 88.2%
Coppinger - 82.2%
Sadlier - 77.8%
Ennis - 75%
Bingham - 83.3%
Sheaf made the most passes in the team today with 65.
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We looked lethargic today against a very good in-form team. In the first half they were quicker to everything and looked like they wanted it more. They made us look like the away team. We improved second half and on another day we might have got something. However we were far to slow to move the ball and the insistence to try and play out from the back is far too predictable. Particularly against a team who are willing to work hard and close us down. We dont have the depth to change anything or provide an impact to help change things when its not going for us. As already stated we need something else upfront and some flair in midfield. I think we also need to be able to mix our style of play and be a little more adaptable. On to the next one RTID
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Some of the comments above make me wonder if I was watching the same game. Far from a bore fest I found it an intruiging contest between two relatively even teams. On the day we were a little bit off in the final third. Once again we defended well and limited their chances other than the strike right into the corner. They had slightly the better in the run of the ball with the referee also bottling the penalty on Ennis. Yes, they hit the post too but that came from a bit of luck that fell their way.
Unfortunatey when we went at them in the second half we couldn't find the right pass or cross to create a clear opening.
Ennis and Whiteman didn't have their best games but I thought all the others were on pace and played well. Sheaf was trying to get things moving and covered a hell of a lot of ground. Copps was closely marked today and got very little time on the ball but still managed to cause them problems.
I thought Bingham did OK when he came on and at least got a couple of efforts in. Taylor was bright but couldn't find the right contact when shooting.
Overall not unhappy with the effort put in although we were a bit naive at times wasting chances to keep pressure on them particularly from free kicks.
What's lacking remains obvious to everyone but this league is still there for us if DM keeps the belief and is able to add to what we have.
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We sat in west stand today for the first time. That was a jinx. First half we were as bad as Ive seen us all season. Second was better, however at least 3 times Taylor put great balls into their penalty area that were totally wasted as nobody was there except on one occasion when Ennis and Bingham got in each other’s way! Very frustrating
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For me Coventry were just the better of 2 mediocre teams today. Apart from our terrible passing at times, whenever the ball was played forward it was like kicking it against a brick wall it just came straight back. You can't fault Ennis for his effort but a centre forward he is not. Today just emphasised what everyone can clearly see we need a forward who can at least hold the ball up to allow the midfield to get up and support him, that is if we persist in the 1 up front
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We sat in west stand today for the first time. That was a jinx. First half we were as bad as Ive seen us all season. Second was better, however at least 3 times Taylor put great balls into their penalty area that were totally wasted as nobody was there except on one occasion when Ennis and Bingham got in each other’s way! Very frustrating
When all we do is Jon Taylor and hope he can get behind the defence is there any wonder we didn’t create barely a single scoring opportunity. We can talk today into next week but the conclusion will still be the same ... we are just not a top 6 team budget or not . With now only 12 regulars in the squad we will be fortunate if aren’t fighting off L2 .
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We sat in west stand today for the first time. That was a jinx. First half we were as bad as Ive seen us all season. Second was better, however at least 3 times Taylor put great balls into their penalty area that were totally wasted as nobody was there except on one occasion when Ennis and Bingham got in each other’s way! Very frustrating
When all we do is Jon Taylor and hope he can get behind the defence is there any wonder we didn’t create barely a single scoring opportunity. We can talk today into next week but the conclusion will still be the same ... we are just not a top 6 team budget or not . With now only 12 regulars in the squad we will be fortunate if aren’t fighting off L2 .
That’s rubbish since-1969, Fighting off league 2.
We have just won 3 on the trot without conceding a goal before today’s match.
Bit of perspective needed don’t you think. Knee jerk reaction to a defeat again. Not just you but all the usual suspects on this forum.
Strange isn’t it we don’t hear from most of them when we win.
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We sat in west stand today for the first time. That was a jinx. First half we were as bad as Ive seen us all season. Second was better, however at least 3 times Taylor put great balls into their penalty area that were totally wasted as nobody was there except on one occasion when Ennis and Bingham got in each other’s way! Very frustrating
When all we do is Jon Taylor and hope he can get behind the defence is there any wonder we didn’t create barely a single scoring opportunity. We can talk today into next week but the conclusion will still be the same ... we are just not a top 6 team budget or not . With now only 12 regulars in the squad we will be fortunate if aren’t fighting off L2 .
Do you really think we are one of the 3 worst teams in the division?
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Absolutely awful, sack the board!!!!
If that is the most constructive thing you can come up with you are wasting your time watching DRFC.
Yes we lost. It happens you know. It’s football. The best team won.
I think you need to go and spend your time doing something that doesn’t make you such an angry, bitter and twisted individual.
Why do you bother if it’s so boring and our team is so useless and our clubs owners are a waste of space,
Even though we lost i had 95 mins of entertainment today. Fascinating match played out by 2 in form teams.
Sometimes you don’t get 20 shots at goal each in a match and a game can be a tactical battle which it was today. Unfortunately from a Rovers perspective the other team won that battle.
Accept it as it’s what football is. But you wouldn’t understand that would you. Not a chance. :crying:
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Some of the comments above make me wonder if I was watching the same game. Far from a bore fest I found it an intruiging contest between two relatively even teams. On the day we were a little bit off in the final third. Once again we defended well and limited their chances other than the strike right into the corner. They had slightly the better in the run of the ball with the referee also bottling the penalty on Ennis. Yes, they hit the post too but that came from a bit of luck that fell their way.
Unfortunatey when we went at them in the second half we couldn't find the right pass or cross to create a clear opening.
Ennis and Whiteman didn't have their best games but I thought all the others were on pace and played well. Sheaf was trying to get things moving and covered a hell of a lot of ground. Copps was closely marked today and got very little time on the ball but still managed to cause them problems.
I thought Bingham did OK when he came on and at least got a couple of efforts in. Taylor was bright but couldn't find the right contact when shooting.
Overall not unhappy with the effort put in although we were a bit naive at times wasting chances to keep pressure on them particularly from free kicks.
What's lacking remains obvious to everyone but this league is still there for us if DM keeps the belief and is able to add to what we have.
I agree with most of that DBR.
As you say though, we seriously need to add strength and depth to the squad.
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I never usually knock the team unless they deserve it but that was rubbish and that is mild to say the least. How can anyone defend thatwe all love our club but it was crap
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Absolutely awful, sack the board!!!!
You are the worst borefest on here.
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the tactics were terrible ..and nothing changed in the match ..........why not change things around 20 minutes from the end ....all i saw was our players pratting about .mostly looking backwards ........the passing was terrible ....and seem to be 2nd to the ball............too many out on the wings and we were lucky if we had 2 in the box....the crosses were awful.we need players running in at differnet areas of the box coz if the 2 ran near goal ..the passes (IF THEY GOT PASSED THE FIRST DEFENDER) went behind them ..over them.too near Marosi who was just taking the P--- all match...............(no pressure on him........what a frigging joke
get it sorted Darren ........or GO
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We were beaten by a better team simples
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He could have brought Blair and Watters on to at least either change the game or to give both of them some game time but Moore did nothing don't think he even changed the formation
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He could have brought Blair and Watters on to at least either change the game or to give both of them some game time but Moore did nothing don't think he even changed the formation
Yes, that was quite puzzling.
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Coventry are at the level that we need to be on a par with if we're to meet the supposed objective of of a top six place. We did not lay a glove on them, at home, when going behind after 25 minutes. It was disappointing to say the least.
The more I see of Ennis, the more I just don't think he's a very good central striker. What does he actually offer other than perpetually backing into defenders? Honestly, I must be missing something watching this guy. I suppose when compared against a non-league donkey like Thomas, Ennis up-front will look like a favourable option.
If we had a decent striker who actually looked like doing something, or maybe even some useful options on the bench then it may have been different.
But then we've known about these problems for months. You'd think then, with time being of the essence, that the people that can do something about it would've been busting a gut over the previous months to ensure that that happens ASAP. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to have been the case.
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the tactics were terrible ..and nothing changed in the match ..........why not change things around 20 minutes from the end ....all i saw was our players pratting about .mostly looking backwards ........the passing was terrible ....and seem to be 2nd to the ball............too many out on the wings and we were lucky if we had 2 in the box....the crosses were awful.we need players running in at differnet areas of the box coz if the 2 ran near goal ..the passes (IF THEY GOT PASSED THE FIRST DEFENDER) went behind them ..over them.too near Marosi who was just taking the P--- all match...............(no pressure on him........what a frigging joke
get it sorted Darren ........or GO
he didn’t change it as we don’t have anyone to change it with
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We need a couple of quality additions to lift the team and the fans.
We are close to being promotion contenders but our squad is paper thin and it’s showing.
I’m hoping for some good news before the end of January to keep our chances alive.
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Quite agree pancho think we’re all hoping we can get a couple in this week
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I honestly believe we’re good enough . It was all down to team selection for me today. We needed madger Gomes’s legs in the middle of the park early on and to save copps for later on when the game was stretched
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I honestly believe we’re good enough . It was all down to team selection for me today. We needed madger Gomes’s legs in the middle of the park early on and to save copps for later on when the game was stretched
Come on John, surely you’re not suggesting the difference between defeat and victory today was Madger Gomes?
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I’m just going on previous games and how we’ve seemed to control the game and midfield with Gomes Whiteman and sheaf in the middle. Makes us harder to break down
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The most frustrating this is not having the players on the bench to change it. Come on board dig deep for the top 6 finish that you talk about.
Thanks.....I needed a laugh after that match! :)