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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: johnny rovers on January 21, 2020, 08:20:33 pm
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Any idea when the next one is?
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They are working hard behind the scenes and trying to get it over the line.
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They are calling the date when they are all back in the country
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don't know... but isn't this site about "Meet the Mowners" at least we have access to them every day. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
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don't know... but isn't this site about "Meet the Mowners" at least we have access to them every day. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Yep, and the downright ungrateful
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I'll be honest, not got any questions for the owners, they are doing a sterling job.
I'm concerned with the chairman, Mr Blunt who is running the football club and what he should be doing?
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I'll be honest, not got any questions for the owners, they are doing a sterling job.
I'm concerned with the chairman, Mr Blunt who is running the football club and what he should be doing?
What do you think he should be doing? Serious question.
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I'll be honest, not got any questions for the owners, they are doing a sterling job.
I'm concerned with the chairman, Mr Blunt who is running the football club and what he should be doing?
What do you think he should be doing? Serious question.
Signing the players the manager wants with the funds available. Be passionate about the job he has to do and to do it to the best of his ability.
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How do you know is isn't any of those things?
Plus, I'm not sure being passionate, other than the enthusiasm required to perform any job, is a necessity.
Blunt is no JR and why should he be? I wouldn't want him to be something he isn't. He doesn't crave the limelight at any time, neither when we're up nor when we're down. The press don't seek him out for interviews either.
The policy of the board is to let the football people do the talking and let the CEO have the responsibility to run the club day to day.
Just because we don't hear from him, other than at the meet the owners, doesn't mean he's doing a crap job.
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How do you know is isn't any of those things?
Plus, I'm not sure being passionate, other than the enthusiasm required to perform any job, is a necessity.
Blunt is no JR and why should he be? I wouldn't want him to be something he isn't. He doesn't crave the limelight at any time, neither when we're up nor when we're down. The press don't seek him out for interviews either.
The policy of the board is to let the football people do the talking and let the CEO have the responsibility to run the club day to day.
Just because we don't hear from him, other than at the meet the owners, doesn't mean he's doing a crap job.
I think johnny wants to see him banging a drum in the south stand on match days.......... :rolleyes:
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JR wouldn’t have needed asking twice!!
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And therein lies the problem for many of the board dissenters. They aren't JR. People got very used to the public figure, constant confidence and lots of information that John Ryan brought as Chairman.
The reality is that most football chairmen are not like JR in this way, and that's no bad thing.
Johnny Rovers, nor anyone else who criticises the board that I can see, has any idea how David Blunt performs his job, nor Gavin Baldwin or Terry Bramall, Andy Watson or anyone else in a position of power at DRFC. Yet these fans see fit to say that they aren't doing a good job or don't care enough because we don't make lots of great signings or thrash every team we play.
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And therein lies the problem for many of the board dissenters. They aren't JR. People got very used to the public figure, constant confidence and lots of information that John Ryan brought as Chairman.
The reality is that most football chairmen are not like JR in this way, and that's no bad thing.
Johnny Rovers, nor anyone else who criticises the board that I can see, has any idea how David Blunt performs his job, nor Gavin Baldwin or Terry Bramall, Andy Watson or anyone else in a position of power at DRFC. Yet these fans see fit to say that they aren't doing a good job or don't care enough because we don't make lots of great signings or thrash every team we play.
I think it’s easy to go to the extremes of the argument and start talking about banging drums in the south stand or coming on as a sub at Hereford. That instantly drags it into the farcical.
Similarly, reading further up this thread I’m not seeing any evident criticism of the owners, and I wouldn’t endorse any either. I made a point last week that the evidence is clear of our reliance on the input of Terry Bramall and the Watsons for many years. And Gavin Baldwin as CEO is very much the public face and the positive bridge between the club and the fans. But David Blunt is largely invisible. That doesn’t automatically mean he’s doing a bad job by exception. But what’s to say Johnny Rovers or any other doesn’t know something that others don’t? I’m not privy to anything myself, but you do hear murmurings and the public comments from Paul Dickov around Blunt’s role are a cause for concern. There are questions that would benefit from being answered there.
If, as we have no reason not to believe, the funds have been made available by our backers (Bramall and Watson) and Darren Moore is being actively encouraged to strengthen and has identified his targets, then (given the very slow pace at which we see any progress and the public assertion from Dickov that Blunt acted more as a roadblock to negotiation) isn’t it reasonable to at least spark some question over the chairman’s role? That was a long sentence, I’m almost out of breath from typing it.
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Question? Yes. Point the finger and criticise in a public place without asking those questions? No!
I'm not sure what Johnny or other fans expect of a chairman.
There's no doubt about Jr's achievements. He gave us hope, when there was only despair and when I say despair, maybe the younger generation can't understand how deep that was when we were bottom of the Conference.
He gave us belief when nobody believed we could get back into the football league and go even higher. He was like the pied piper and he had a story to tell which the media wanted to know. How the hell have you done that!?
Things change though when you're in with the bigger fish. The David and Goliath, rags to riches story has already been told and the press longer want to hear that story.
As JR found, despite his heroic efforts which will always be part of our folklore, people started to fall off the bandwagon and the momentum was gone. He tried to plea to people to get back out to support the team but it was always an impossible job to get that momentum back.
We know, just as every other fan of clubs in our bracket, leadership and enthusiasm can only go so far, it's the finances and the risks that separate clubs for the most part.
That's why it is like a business whether we like it or not. Staying amongst the fish is just as hard as getting there in the first place. (Plaice! Ha!)
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This forum's main topic of conversation these days is about super fans calling ordinary fans fickle. What I call fickle is the number of super fans who worship those who run the club right up to the minute they leave, after which they tear them to shreds!
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I'll be honest, not got any questions for the owners, they are doing a sterling job.
I'm concerned with the chairman, Mr Blunt who is running the football club and what he should be doing?
What do you think he should be doing? Serious question.
Signing the players the manager wants with the funds available. Be passionate about the job he has to do and to do it to the best of his ability.
You really need to find out what a Chairman's job actually is.
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This forum's main topic of conversation these days is about super fans calling ordinary fans fickle. What I call fickle is the number of super fans who worship those who run the club right up to the minute they leave, after which they tear to shreds!
I didn't know there was such a thing as a super fan. Is that your definition or one generally accepted?
I think your sarcasm is unwarranted and divisive.
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David Blunt was CEO of Keepmoat and an obvious choice as Chairman here selected by the Bramall and Watson family .He seems the least well known of all major figures at the club to the ordinary fan .There are many media interviews of DM and players on DROS .David Blunt could and perhaps should offer to be interviewed by Liam Hoden who is obviously a regular reader of this forum and knows best of all what fans are concerned about .
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Blunt not interested in football. horse racing only
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This forum's main topic of conversation these days is about super fans calling ordinary fans fickle. What I call fickle is the number of super fans who worship those who run the club right up to the minute they leave, after which they tear to shreds!
I didn't know there was such a thing as a super fan. Is that your definition or one generally accepted?
I think your sarcasm is unwarranted and divisive.
I call a super fan someone who tells others how to be a proper supporter. There are plenty on this forum.
I've absolutely no objection to showing respect for those running the club and have always done so myself. However, they are not Gods and aren't there to be worshipped as though through fear that they might leave.
I don't think treating them like sugar daddies is a sign of respect.
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Questioning folks’ opinions - or more accurately questioning the reasoning behind their opinions - isn’t telling them how to be a proper supporter..
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Blunt not interested in football. horse racing only
One of the cats has jumped out of the bag😉
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Questioning folks’ opinions - or more accurately questioning the reasoning behind their opinions - isn’t telling them how to be a proper supporter..
Absolutely.
There's an awful lot of assumptions and falsehoods in BB's response, which says more about him and his view of the club than it does about anybody else on this forum.
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Questioning folks’ opinions - or more accurately questioning the reasoning behind their opinions - isn’t telling them how to be a proper supporter..
In that case questioning the slow movement of signings isn't telling the board and manager how to run the club properly either. Supporters buy into the club and pay for the right to ask questions
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And there is a difference between reasonable questioning and posters claiming as facts that the owners/board aren’t spending (or able to spend) etc.. or posting “sack the board” after a close defeat against a very in form team.
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Blunt not interested in football. horse racing only
Wonder if he has a tip for Saturday - I'll be at Town Moor....
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And there is a difference between reasonable questioning and posters claiming as facts that the owners/board aren’t spending (or able to spend) etc.. or posting “sack the board” after a close defeat against a very in form team.
And I'm not representing or condoning those posters. I'm talking for myself, and others in a similar situation who have supported the club for donkey's years and don't need telling that we've been doing it wrong.
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I see a super fan as a guy who sees Doncaster Rovers as their team, follows their results whether they can get to games or not,and always wants them to do well, most if not all want that,and have different opinions that they are all entitled to, that is part of the fascination of football.
I see a super super fan as a guy who puts £1 million a year into a club and basically stays in the background, and let's the football people employed at the club get on with managing the football side as well as they can with the resources available, and deliver the best team they can for us the supporters, all this while trying to improve the infrastructure of the clubs training, player welfare facilities, and staff, all while taking criticism about finances.
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Selby
Is that not the same as any man or women that buys a season ticket every year
Because it does not equate to a Million pounds in many cases it is the only disposable income they have got .
Are they super fans and do they have a right to discuss the playing style or the players or manager .
We have had cases on here about the catering but nobody as criticised the poster on that
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Norti, there are people who never attend a game who are great fans of the club. Buying a season ticket doesn't make you any better as a fan to a guy that doesn't go to matches, great that they can afford to and want to buy a season ticket,but the person who can't get for whatever reason, and thinks of the Rovers as their club deserves to be respected as well.
The board however must have realised that the minute they joined the board it was going to cost them significant amounts of money every year. That is some commitment no matter how much wealth they have, and I would imagine that there are quite a few smaller clubs would give their right arm to have the leadership we have at the helm.
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selby
i agree with what you are saying
But some people on here can not accept other persons views
Everybody would do the job different and it is right
My brother and myself disagree every game
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Beat the Moaners. I’d pay per view.
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They are working hard behind the scenes and trying to get it over the line.
My favourite game. See if you can guess who the people are who "liked" a post before you check.
I got 4/6.
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They are working hard behind the scenes and trying to get it over the line.
My favourite game. See if you can guess who the people are who "liked" a post before you check.
I got 4/6.
I thought that was a pretty funny one-liner to be fair, not necessarily a dig.