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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: stuey on January 22, 2020, 03:02:03 pm
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Kick off brought forward to 1230 on "police advice"
Ridiculous but not a surprise
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Next up South Yorkshire police should try actually sorting the fan segregation after the match. Half the police were stood at the station.
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Kick off brought forward to 1230 on "police advice"
Ridiculous but not a surprise
TBF, they have to get their overtime somehow.......
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Next up South Yorkshire police should try actually sorting the fan segregation after the match. Half the police were stood at the station.
Dead right mate. The situation at Rotherham is ridiculous, where the away supporters have to run the gauntlet below the home supporters gathered at the fencing outside the main stand. The abuse and spitting is continuous, and the police just stand there and do nothing about it.
At the match two years ago, I complained to one of the coppers about it, and he just shrugged his shoulders and did nothing.
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What difference does it make? People will start drinking at 7am instead of 10am
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Next up South Yorkshire police should try actually sorting the fan segregation after the match. Half the police were stood at the station.
Dead right mate. The situation at Rotherham is ridiculous, where the away supporters have to run the gauntlet below the home supporters gathered at the fencing outside the main stand. The abuse and spitting is continuous, and the police just stand there and do nothing about it.
At the match two years ago, I complained to one of the coppers about it, and he just shrugged his shoulders and did nothing.
It’s shocking. My eldest says he doesn’t want to go to Rotherham again because of the scenes after the match. My middle one thinks he’s Tyson so he’s well up for it - at 8 years old.
We complained to a copper as well and he said “it’s always like this in derby matches”. I’ve been to the Glasgow and 2nd city derbies and neither would allow one set of fans to stand above the other. Shite policing to blame.
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Last March we set up an IAG, an independent advisory group for South Yorkshire Police. We have been helping SYP transform the way that they have been Policing football in SY from that confrontational style to one that reflects neighbourhood Policing.
We've made some great progress and would appreciate it if you could follow our twitter feed on @sypiag
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Next up South Yorkshire police should try actually sorting the fan segregation after the match. Half the police were stood at the station.
Dead right mate. The situation at Rotherham is ridiculous, where the away supporters have to run the gauntlet below the home supporters gathered at the fencing outside the main stand. The abuse and spitting is continuous, and the police just stand there and do nothing about it.
At the match two years ago, I complained to one of the coppers about it, and he just shrugged his shoulders and did nothing.
It’s shocking. My eldest says he doesn’t want to go to Rotherham again because of the scenes after the match. My middle one thinks he’s Tyson so he’s well up for it - at 8 years old.
We complained to a copper as well and he said “it’s always like this in derby matches”. I’ve been to the Glasgow and 2nd city derbies and neither would allow one set of fans to stand above the other. Shite policing to blame.
My young boys now don’t want to go to Rotherham again after last time and the even wouldn’t go to Rotherham at home because they were really upset by the trouble
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I won't be going again anytime soon after last season. Do I have to accept some of our fans are moronic. No! Trampling over women and children just so they can make a show of themselves towards the opposition fans. And that was before the farce outside.
Boisterous yes, pathetic subhuman thuggery, no.
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After the morons observed at Scunthorpe and Rotherham last season who supposedly "support" Rovers, I will not go to another away match. I don't want to be associated with the idiotic posturing and stupidity that seems to be the norm from our away support, culminating on a ballboy being spat at the Bristol game last season. Rovers did nothing about the behaviour at Rotherham or Scunthorpe as far as I know, the club needs to take a long hard look at itself as well as being concerned with the policing of matches.
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I won't be going again anytime soon after last season. Do I have to accept some of our fans are moronic. No! Trampling over women and children just so they can make a show of themselves towards the opposition fans. And that was before the farce outside.
Boisterous yes, pathetic subhuman thuggery, no.
We have had no trouble at all at any away matches this season that i have been to. I have only missed Ipswich, Gillingham in the cup and Bristol Rovers.
It does seem the thugs only come out when we play Scunthorpe and Rotherham.
Following Rovers away is a very pleasant experience ( especially when we win :) ) and you should not be put off by going to most away games DBR.
Yes the scenes at Rotherham last season were a disgrace and the policing of it was a shambles.
At Scunthorpe the stewarding is very poor and has been for many years now and people are allowed to stand where they want which is is not acceptable.
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I won't be going again anytime soon after last season. Do I have to accept some of our fans are moronic. No! Trampling over women and children just so they can make a show of themselves towards the opposition fans. And that was before the farce outside.
Boisterous yes, pathetic subhuman thuggery, no.
I’m with you on that one DonnyBaz. I was sickened by the actions of so called Rovers supporters sat (stood, all game) around me last season at Rotherham. Men in their 50’s effing & blinding, making hand gestures to the Rotherham supporters closest to us, no interest in watching the game, all blathered, not one wearing any colours. It was like a throw back to the 70’s.
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Last March we set up an IAG, an independent advisory group for South Yorkshire Police. We have been helping SYP transform the way that they have been Policing football in SY from that confrontational style to one that reflects neighbourhood Policing.
We've made some great progress and would appreciate it if you could follow our twitter feed on @sypiag
If the home game against Rotherham was anything to go by it was absolute chaos in Car Park 3 bit, more work required
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Next up South Yorkshire police should try actually sorting the fan segregation after the match. Half the police were stood at the station.
Dead right mate. The situation at Rotherham is ridiculous, where the away supporters have to run the gauntlet below the home supporters gathered at the fencing outside the main stand. The abuse and spitting is continuous, and the police just stand there and do nothing about it.
At the match two years ago, I complained to one of the coppers about it, and he just shrugged his shoulders and did nothing.
Would this be the same Rotherham who called it on the season Wall got relegated and ran away crying like babies and phoned in to Radio Sheffield calling us scum! Oh the irony, ha ha. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Last March we set up an IAG, an independent advisory group for South Yorkshire Police. We have been helping SYP transform the way that they have been Policing football in SY from that confrontational style to one that reflects neighbourhood Policing.
We've made some great progress and would appreciate it if you could follow our twitter feed on @sypiag
If the home game against Rotherham was anything to go by it was absolute chaos in Car Park 3 bit, more work required
The home game against Rotherham was a DRFC exit plan. It didn't go as expected.
You misunderstand our role, we advise SYP on policing of football games, and in that there's been major changes this season, especially if you look at the policing of Shef Utd games in the Premiership and the compliments that has received. We can all be flippant.
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Sorry SM no flippancy, everything was going fine until SYP turned up in force at CP3 exit that was when the chaos started.
Apologies if I misunderstood your role but if they can sort out a plan to deal with 25-30k at Sheff Utd what is the problem in sorting a crowd of 6-7k at Rotherham v Rovers?
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Sorry SM no flippancy, everything was going fine until SYP turned up in force at CP3 exit that was when the chaos started.
Apologies if I misunderstood your role but if they can sort out a plan to deal with 25-30k at Sheff Utd what is the problem in sorting a crowd of 6-7k at Rotherham v Rovers?
No problem, I just misinterpreted your response.
We created the IAG last March, and it consists of supporters from all SY clubs, SYP themselves, Safety Officers from all clubs, BTP, and a few other individuals depending on their role. I chair the meetings.
There has been relatively few changes to KO times this season, compared to previous, but we hope to eliminate these altogether. We've seen major changes in the style of Policing so far, less aggressive in your face style, to one of friendly, welcoming, and here to help neighbourhood style. We've got a way to go yet.
I've discussed the issue you refer to with the Police and the club, and again it's another case of learn from it and move on. It was a change the club felt would work, but it did have issues. I'm sure we'll get it right.
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SYP couldn't handle the policing of the Chigley v Trumpton local derby without it ending in chaos.
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Someone send a message out to Captain Snort.!
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We are one of the teams with least trouble at away games.
Not sure what people are referring to at Scunny in the league last year. No trouble with their fans. Yes most of the away end stood which pissed people off who didn't want to but very rarely do you see a sold out away end sat down. I think some people include this as trouble.
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SYP couldn't handle the policing of the Chigley v Trumpton local derby without it ending in chaos.
If you say so. The Millwall supporters were very complimentary of their visit to Brammal Lane at the back end of last season.
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I find it really frustrating, i was at the rotherham away game to watch the rovers play. I don't understand why people decide that the best way to support their team is to scream at the opposition fans 'PAEDO!' all afternoon.
Thrte will be some who defend this as 'banter' but the abuse handed out that day at people who weren't involved in the child abuse case, puts me off going to games.
Then what happened outside the ground also was horrific. Grown men trying to fight and spitting all over each other, while kids are about. Over what? The fact that rotherham is 20 minutes down the road.
Frankly pathetic
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SYP couldn't handle the policing of the Chigley v Trumpton local derby without it ending in chaos.
It’s not surprising when Windy Miller and Mrs Dingle are about 😂😂😂
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I won't be going again anytime soon after last season. Do I have to accept some of our fans are moronic. No! Trampling over women and children just so they can make a show of themselves towards the opposition fans. And that was before the farce outside.
Boisterous yes, pathetic subhuman thuggery, no.
Following Rovers away is a very pleasant experience
It was far from a pleasant experience at Rotherham last time, which is what the thread is about.
An away derby at Rotherham should be one of the highlights of the season, but I'm afraid, like others, I will be giving it a miss after the disgusting events last time.
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I couldn’t care less what we chant or any other team chant. It’s just words.
Spitting from a higher level onto children however is beyond low. Any retaliation from Rovers fans who saw that is, in my opinion, completely justified. If someone spits at your child, or any child for that matter, you stand up for them. The high and mighty on here will be out in force claiming it’s not acceptable to do anything in return but, quite frankly, they are either wrong or scared.
I’m not defending anyone out to cause trouble, far from it, but when behaviour goes too far from other people you have to do something about it. One group of lads who tried to get at the Rotherham fans after the last away game were walking along care free until the 3 tools from Rovrum started the spitting. I was about 20 yards behind them at the time and the police just stood and watched what the home “fans” had done.
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SYP couldn't handle the policing of the Chigley v Trumpton local derby without it ending in chaos.
If you say so. The Millwall supporters were very complimentary of their visit to Brammal Lane at the back end of last season.
Well they can't have been in the subway under the roundabout after the match.
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We are one of the teams with least trouble at away games.
Not sure what people are referring to at Scunny in the league last year. No trouble with their fans. Yes most of the away end stood which pissed people off who didn't want to but very rarely do you see a sold out away end sat down. I think some people include this as trouble.
Smoke bombs and unsociable behaviour is not acceptable Padge.
Why should senior citizens some of who have watched Rovers for over 60 years be treated in such a disgusting way by yobs. Sorry Padge if that isn’t a problem to you it should be.
Any way we have done this subject to death in the past so no point in starting again.
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Last March we set up an IAG, an independent advisory group for South Yorkshire Police. We have been helping SYP transform the way that they have been Policing football in SY from that confrontational style to one that reflects neighbourhood Policing.
We've made some great progress and would appreciate it if you could follow our twitter feed on @sypiag
Sound really good. However I can't let the opportunity pass to point out that the twitter handle is just one letter away from being quite funny
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I couldn’t care less what we chant or any other team chant. It’s just words.
That's not right 5 on Tour.
There's a lot of justified condemnation of racist chanting recently. I'm sure you wouldn't condone such chants as "just words"?
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We are one of the teams with least trouble at away games.
Not sure what people are referring to at Scunny in the league last year. No trouble with their fans. Yes most of the away end stood which pissed people off who didn't want to but very rarely do you see a sold out away end sat down. I think some people include this as trouble.
Smoke bombs and unsociable behaviour is not acceptable Padge.
Why should senior citizens some of who have watched Rovers for over 60 years be treated in such a disgusting way by yobs. Sorry Padge if that isn’t a problem to you it should be.
Any way we have done this subject to death in the past so no point in starting again.
Apologies I didn't remember smoke bombs at Scunny in the league. Was there after our goal? If so fair enough. Other than that I thought the behaviour was okay. Never saw any trouble with opposition fans
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“Paedo” oversteps the line too, in my book..
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The problem nowadays is that no-one has a sense of humour. I thought the whole point of football banter is to get under the skin and wind up the opposition and make the afternoon as uncomfortable as possible for their team and fans.
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The problem nowadays is that no-one has a sense of humour. I thought the whole point of football banter is to get under the skin and wind up the opposition and make the afternoon as uncomfortable as possible for their team and fans.
Or you could try supporting your team?
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The problem nowadays is that no-one has a sense of humour. I thought the whole point of football banter is to get under the skin and wind up the opposition and make the afternoon as uncomfortable as possible for their team and fans.
The words Millwall and banter don't seem to fit very well together to me
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The problem nowadays is that no-one has a sense of humour. I thought the whole point of football banter is to get under the skin and wind up the opposition and make the afternoon as uncomfortable as possible for their team and fans.
Yes but some things go beyond humour..
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The problem nowadays is that no-one has a sense of humour. I thought the whole point of football banter is to get under the skin and wind up the opposition and make the afternoon as uncomfortable as possible for their team and fans.
Or you could try supporting your team?
A constant barrage of abuse generally has the effect of putting off the opposition. The number of times the oppo at the Den didn't fancy it and bottled it has gained us loads of points. When Leicester came down in the cup a couple of years back we gave it to players and fans alike all day long. They melted and we won!
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I'd rather live a respectful, convivial life, than compromise that for some points in a football game, personally.
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I used to like the word banter but it quickly lost it's shine when I realised that it was being used as a catch all term for being a kitson.
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I used to like the word banter but it quickly lost it's shine when I realised that it was being used as a catch all term for being a kitson.
Ha ha ha.
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There were plenty at the Rotherham match, enough to choke somebody with lung problems, but I guess this is just adding to the "atmosphere" just like screaming Paedo all match is "just words" Pathetic behaviour.
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I couldn’t care less what we chant or any other team chant. It’s just words.
That's not right 5 on Tour.
There's a lot of justified condemnation of racist chanting recently. I'm sure you wouldn't condone such chants as "just words"?
Big big big difference between a couple of half wits saying something racist and a group of fans chanting something derogatory. I have never heard a Rovers away section(as a group) chant anything even remotely racist.
“We all hate Leeds scum” is not a racist chant for example. No-one even flinched when Man U were chanting that in unison with us at the home game earlier this season. We had a group of away fans calling us “pikey bas**rds” this season and that wasn’t racist? Not one reaction from anyone at our place when it happened as we took it in the spirt it was meant. It’s a group of fans winding up another group of fans. Technically Pikey is racist. If we react it gets nasty but if you chant back the situation is almost always resolved as banter.
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You said you couldn’t care less what anybody chants.
I was just trying to understand if you had any boundaries where chants are concerned.
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The problem nowadays is that no-one has a sense of humour. I thought the whole point of football banter is to get under the skin and wind up the opposition and make the afternoon as uncomfortable as possible for their team and fans.
Chanting “peado” when you are surrounded by parents with young children is that classed as banter ‘darn the owd east end’?
What about opposing supporters making aeroplane gestures & noises at Old Trafford or more recently at Cardiff City, is that regarded as banter at The New Den?
Silly me of course it is.
“Nobody likes us but we don’t care.....”.
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The problem nowadays is that no-one has a sense of humour. I thought the whole point of football banter is to get under the skin and wind up the opposition and make the afternoon as uncomfortable as possible for their team and fans.
Chanting “peado” when you are surrounded by parents with young children is that classed as banter ‘darn the owd east end’?
What about opposing supporters making aeroplane gestures & noises at Old Trafford or more recently at Cardiff City, is that regarded as banter at The New Den?
Silly me of course it is.
“Nobody likes us but we don’t care.....”.
It's football, not croquet.
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There’s plenty of banter style chants you can use to wind up opposing teams and fans, without taking things too far.
“Paedos” aimed at Rotherham is out of order.. going to football doesn’t give people the right to become a d**khead..
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There’s plenty of banter style chants you can use to wind up opposing teams and fans, without taking things too far.
“Paedos” aimed at Rotherham is out of order.. going to football doesn’t give people the right to become a d**khead..
I don't need to go to football to be a d**khead, I just carry it on from my daily life.