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Title: Are pet food stores included
Post by: roversdude on March 23, 2020, 10:49:36 pm
Are stores such as pets at home included in the lockdown?
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: 5minstogo on March 23, 2020, 11:03:29 pm
I'm not sure on UK but in Spain and France they are.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: 5minstogo on March 23, 2020, 11:04:01 pm
Sorry. In France and Spain they are still open.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Pancho Regan on March 24, 2020, 08:25:53 am
Pet shops can remain open.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Superspy on March 24, 2020, 08:45:49 am
List from one of the BBC articles for anybody who is interested:

"Retailers that will be allowed to stay ope include:"

- Supermarkets and other food shops
- Pharmacies
- Petrol Stations
- Newsagents
- Bicycle Shops
- Home and hardware stores
- Launderettes and dry cleaners
- Garages
- Pet shops
- Post Offices
- Banks
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: SydneyRover on March 24, 2020, 08:48:08 am
Pet shops can remain open.

well if you cant get to the butchers?
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Filo on March 24, 2020, 08:50:15 am
Pet shops can remain open.

well if you cant get to the butchers?


I’m not keen on those dry biscuits, and that stuff you add water to 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: IDM on March 24, 2020, 08:56:32 am
PM advised yesterday evening that we should use supermarket deliveries where possible..

Has he actually tried to book one recently. ?  Fortunately our household is symptom free and we all drive, so getting to the shops isn’t an issue, but what about others.?  Within neighbouring communities folks can help each other, but what about those who don’t know anyone.?
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: ravenrover on March 24, 2020, 10:04:05 am
We've been with Ocado for many years, can we gett a delivery? Can we bugg%rry!
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Filo on March 24, 2020, 10:22:05 am
We've been with Ocado for many years, can we gett a delivery? Can we bugg%rry!

Tesco same we’ve used the every week for years, last time I looked 4 weeks to the next one
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: idler on March 24, 2020, 10:38:00 am
So much for loyalty boys. I wonder how many new customers will actually stay with them when this crisis is eventually over?
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Filo on March 24, 2020, 11:00:19 am
So much for loyalty boys. I wonder how many new customers will actually stay with them when this crisis is eventually over?

Not many, the I’m alright Jacks will piss off as quickly as the registered
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Copps is Magic on March 24, 2020, 11:15:17 am
List from one of the BBC articles for anybody who is interested:

"Retailers that will be allowed to stay ope include:"

- Supermarkets and other food shops
- Pharmacies
- Petrol Stations
- Newsagents
- Bicycle Shops
- Home and hardware stores
- Launderettes and dry cleaners
- Garages
- Pet shops
- Post Offices
- Banks

Crikey. Half the high street then.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Axholme Lion on March 24, 2020, 12:14:48 pm
I work in a garage that amongst our business is repairing paramedic response cars but we are closing tonight!
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: pib on March 24, 2020, 12:40:09 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: IDM on March 24, 2020, 12:43:45 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.

No, I’m certainly not.

It was more the irony of the PM saying last night to use delivery services, when they are already maxed out..
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: pib on March 24, 2020, 12:51:05 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.

No, I’m certainly not.

It was more the irony of the PM saying last night to use delivery services, when they are already maxed out..

Wasn't particularly aimed at your post IDM, apologies.

Perhaps the PM was referring to Deliveroo etc?
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: IDM on March 24, 2020, 12:58:39 pm
No idea.. I thought he meant supermarkets and was completely out of touch with reality..

Otherwise I did agree with much of what he said.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: NickDRFC on March 24, 2020, 01:00:49 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.

Agreed Pib, just read some of the responses and was about to respond the same thing!
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on March 24, 2020, 01:34:38 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.

I am actually.  Put a system in place to prioritise those who need it most such as my Grandfather who is pushing 90 and has no family within 2 hours of home and his wife in a home.  Tough for most of us, but fair for those like that who need it.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: idler on March 24, 2020, 02:33:19 pm
My youngest step-daughter is asking us every night if we need anything and leaving it on the doorstep every morning. It has worked very well so far with her now working from home.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Not Now Kato on March 24, 2020, 02:50:42 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.

I am actually.  Put a system in place to prioritise those who need it most such as my Grandfather who is pushing 90 and has no family within 2 hours of home and his wife in a home.  Tough for most of us, but fair for those like that who need it.

I fully agree.  Too many people are taking advantage when they are fully fit and capable of driving to 'click & collect', but they can't be arsed!
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: IDM on March 24, 2020, 02:53:59 pm
We were looking to do a supermarket delivery in about 3-4 weeks in case the restrictions tighten, and to counter the panic buying.. meanwhile we go out more often that we normally would, because catching the shops at the right time is difficult now.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: pib on March 24, 2020, 03:42:40 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.

I am actually.  Put a system in place to prioritise those who need it most such as my Grandfather who is pushing 90 and has no family within 2 hours of home and his wife in a home.  Tough for most of us, but fair for those like that who need it.

That's completely different to prioritising people just because they shop online with that retailer frequently.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: roversdude on March 24, 2020, 04:30:20 pm
No different to Xmas when all the delivery slots are taken up by infrequent shoppers.
Agree with prioritising for those who can’t get to the shops including NHS workers - this coming from someone who orders online every week with Tesco and can’t get a slot
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Filo on March 24, 2020, 04:31:30 pm
No different to Xmas when all the delivery slots are taken up by infrequent shoppers.
Agree with prioritising for those who can’t get to the shops including NHS workers - this coming from someone who orders online every week with Tesco and can’t get a slot

Never failed to get a Christmas slot of my choice
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: RedRover45 on March 24, 2020, 04:43:27 pm
Am I the only one on here who has never ever had a supermarket delivery. I have always preferred to go myself and pick my own. Things might change soon but I'll put it off as long as I can.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: drfchound on March 24, 2020, 04:53:29 pm
I have never had a supermarket home delivery.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Muttley on March 24, 2020, 04:55:37 pm
Am I the only one on here who has never ever had a supermarket delivery. I have always preferred to go myself and pick my own. Things might change soon but I'll put it off as long as I can.

Me neither, I try to go to the market each week for cheese, meat, fish and fruit & veg so only use supermarkets for what I can’t get there.

The problem with home delivery for me is that if the product you wanted is not available then they’ll substitute something else of their choice - I’d rather be in control of that process myself.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: bpoolrover on March 24, 2020, 05:12:31 pm
I tried to do a online food shop at Asda last week spent 84 pounds, the actual bill ended up being just over 40 as had nothing in or no substitute products
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: ravenrover on March 24, 2020, 05:35:10 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.
Short answer, yes.
It wouldn't surprise me that many of these "new" customers of online shopping are amongst those that cleaned the supermarkets out in the 1st instance
I would also add that our local village shops, which we regularly use, are swamped with people who I have never seen in the village yet alone at the shops and these will be the same people who when things calm down will never use them again and go back to shopping at the cheaper supermarkets.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2020, 05:55:52 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.

I am actually.  Put a system in place to prioritise those who need it most such as my Grandfather who is pushing 90 and has no family within 2 hours of home and his wife in a home.  Tough for most of us, but fair for those like that who need it.

This requires Govt to step in and instruct where the priority deliveries go. How can Tesco know who is a priority, vulnerable case?

Nearly three weeks ago, the Health Secretary lied in front of the nation on Question Time about the Govt having started discussing this with the supermarkets. Three weeks on, there's still no indication that this is being sorted.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: pib on March 24, 2020, 06:37:06 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.
Short answer, yes.
It wouldn't surprise me that many of these "new" customers of online shopping are amongst those that cleaned the supermarkets out in the 1st instance
I would also add that our local village shops, which we regularly use, are swamped with people who I have never seen in the village yet alone at the shops and these will be the same people who when things calm down will never use them again and go back to shopping at the cheaper supermarkets.

Ok, so let’s look at BFYP’s post from a slightly different perspective then.

Say Tesco/Ocado say “only regular customers can place online deliveries for the next X days”, what happens when an elderly/vulnerable person goes on who is in a situation where they have to shop online for the first time? Imagine the flak the supermarkets would receive for that! They can’t win really can they?

I’m in no way advocating idiots who are hoarding and stockpiling essentials at the expense of everyone else btw, but it doesn’t take a great deal of thinking to work out why you’re not, by some divine right, at the front of the queue just because your normal supermarkets/shops/online delivery services are busier than usual.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: idler on March 24, 2020, 07:52:51 pm
There was a story on Facebook today where a bin man allegedly reported that the amount of waste collected was up 30% to somewhere near Christmas levels. A lot of this was fresh fruit and veg with some of it still in the packaging. I said to the wife when it started that this would happen.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: 5minstogo on March 24, 2020, 10:31:50 pm
I'm a supermarket delivery driver and every time Boris says use home deliveries I wince. In Rotherham we have 3 vans and 9 drivers. The vans go out full to 860kg capacity (or thereabouts) 3 times a day. A van on a busy day would do around 45 deliveries. The problem is because folk are over ordering we have to reduce the amount of orders to be able to stay within the weight limit. Add into that drivers working hours and there is absolutely no wiggle room. Our vans are  now going out full but only doing maybe 35 deliveries a day. Recruiting and training new drivers takes months and even if that was an option we'd also need to recruit pickers, increase stock availability etc which would also take months to implement.

One supermarket has identified old and vulnerable customers and is allocating slots to those first. Morrisons are also doing a mystery box of essentials being delivered by DPD so check those options out if you can.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Dagenham Rover on March 24, 2020, 10:41:56 pm
There was a story on Facebook today where a bin man allegedly reported that the amount of waste collected was up 30% to somewhere near Christmas levels. A lot of this was fresh fruit and veg with some of it still in the packaging. I said to the wife when it started that this would happen.
Absolutely ridiculous.

and I bet theres bugger all wrong with it apart from a "best before" date on the packaging
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Pancho Regan on March 25, 2020, 07:53:50 am
There was a story on Facebook today

No disrespect Idler but I stopped reading after this......
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Pancho Regan on March 25, 2020, 07:59:56 am
I'm a supermarket delivery driver and every time Boris says use home deliveries I wince. In Rotherham we have 3 vans and 9 drivers. The vans go out full to 860kg capacity (or thereabouts) 3 times a day. A van on a busy day would do around 45 deliveries. The problem is because folk are over ordering we have to reduce the amount of orders to be able to stay within the weight limit. Add into that drivers working hours and there is absolutely no wiggle room. Our vans are  now going out full but only doing maybe 35 deliveries a day. Recruiting and training new drivers takes months and even if that was an option we'd also need to recruit pickers, increase stock availability etc which would also take months to implement.

One supermarket has identified old and vulnerable customers and is allocating slots to those first. Morrisons are also doing a mystery box of essentials being delivered by DPD so check those options out if you can.

That's an interesting and informative post from the 'inside track' 5mins.
Good luck mate.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: Colin C No.3 on March 25, 2020, 09:45:52 am
Those stats are an eye opener for me 5 mins.

It must be frustrating & demoralising knowing that at a time when you need & want to be making more deliveries, your constrained by lack of vehicles, drivers & hoarders.

You can only do what you can do.
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: idler on March 25, 2020, 10:23:35 am
There was a story on Facebook today
The sister-in-law works in Bradford. To save costs some workers are now based in waste department fixes as they know that these will never go in cost cutting exercises. I'll ask her if she has seen or heard of any evidence of this in Bradford.

No disrespect Idler but I stopped reading after this......
Title: Re: Are pet food stores included
Post by: ravenrover on March 25, 2020, 02:10:35 pm
Are people seriously having a go at supermarkets for first-come-first-served delivery slots filling up? Jesus wept.

How, and more importantly why, do you expect them to be prioritising you over other people who have ordered? We're in a global crisis and people are being asked not to leave the house, but of course, big bad Tesco are doing you over by not taking into account your clubcard points! Do me a favour.
Short answer, yes.
It wouldn't surprise me that many of these "new" customers of online shopping are amongst those that cleaned the supermarkets out in the 1st instance
I would also add that our local village shops, which we regularly use, are swamped with people who I have never seen in the village yet alone at the shops and these will be the same people who when things calm down will never use them again and go back to shopping at the cheaper supermarkets.

Ok, so let’s look at BFYP’s post from a slightly different perspective then.

Say Tesco/Ocado say “only regular customers can place online deliveries for the next X days”, what happens when an elderly/vulnerable person goes on who is in a situation where they have to shop online for the first time? Imagine the flak the supermarkets would receive for that! They can’t win really can they?

I’m in no way advocating idiots who are hoarding and stockpiling essentials at the expense of everyone else btw, but it doesn’t take a great deal of thinking to work out why you’re not, by some divine right, at the front of the queue just because your normal supermarkets/shops/online delivery services are busier than usual.
I don't expect any preferential treatment regarding delivery slots, I would just like to be able to place my order be it for delivery this week next week or whenever. My gripe is that the pound signs rolled with the increase in subscribers in mycase Ocado when they had neither the IT or supply infrastrucure in place to cope. Thankfully my Son on Law is bringing in a few essentials but he shouldn't have to be out and about when they have 2 young children to look after