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Title: He's not Churchill
Post by: wilts rover on June 05, 2020, 04:48:17 pm
Great article here on the significance and history behind Churchill's 'We will fight them on the beaches speech' which is 80 years old this week.

Did you know that when you hear it on the tv or radio that isn't actually him but an actor some years later?

But how this last paragraph managed to get past Dominic Cummings censors and onto the government website is beyond me. Who can't read it and then compare the great man with Churchill the nodding dog that we have been landed with;

To make note of the complexity of the origins and responses to this wonderful speech by no means implies criticism of Churchill. Rather, it prompts us to rethink the factors that contributed to his oratorical success. He did not merely provide uplifting soundbites; he presented a factual and reasoned case, provided the public with new information and, crucially, provided them with the context necessary to understand it. He was willing to run the risk of depressing his audience if this would serve the greater purpose of bringing them into contact with reality; he did not attempt to win easy popularity by providing false hope. He followed this formula throughout the war, not always with complete success in terms of audience response, but with the ultimate achievement of establishing his credibility as someone who would deliver the facts no matter how unpalatable they might be. This is a lesson which modern orators will do well to follow.

https://history.blog.gov.uk/2013/12/02/we-shall-fight-on-the-beaches-three-things-you-never-knew-about-churchills-most-famous-speech/
Title: Re: He's not Churchill
Post by: Bentley Bullet on June 05, 2020, 05:15:04 pm
The voice of Churchill was done by Bob Mortimer......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_Insurance
Title: Re: He's not Churchill
Post by: idler on June 05, 2020, 06:49:46 pm
I always thought that it sounded like Vic Reeves. I'd have lost money on that.
Title: Re: He's not Churchill
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on June 05, 2020, 07:31:18 pm
Whichever it was, it always sounded to me like they were trying to do an impression of Deryck Guyler.
Title: Re: He's not Churchill
Post by: Bentley Bullet on June 05, 2020, 07:38:29 pm
They pinched Guyler's catchphrase.
Title: Re: He's not Churchill
Post by: Iberian Red on June 05, 2020, 09:11:38 pm
They pinched Guyler's catchphrase.

Come on Dave. You've lived your life on other people's jokes or racist sound bites.
Title: Re: He's not Churchill
Post by: Bentley Bullet on June 06, 2020, 09:56:58 am
#Hoo, hoo hoo, hoo hoo hoo, hoo hoo, hoo hoo hoo.........Spanish Troll!#

https://youtu.be/N5LveBIjg3o?t=147