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Title: Terriers
Post by: scawsby steve on June 29, 2020, 03:26:33 pm
Another pasting yesterday, and a man sent off. They are in freefall, and with Charlton, Luton, and Boro all winning this weekend, the chances of Barnsley, Hull, and Terriers coming down are getting stronger by the minute, for 6 great derby games next season.

What a ball-ache it would be if that happened, and we couldn't get to their stadiums because of the virus.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on June 29, 2020, 03:59:00 pm
Be lovely, that.

More than make up for the lack of local games coming up from League 2!

(If we're allowed in, obviously!)
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: Draytonian III on June 29, 2020, 04:09:46 pm
As I’ve said before The Cowley brothers are being found , they’ll be at Southend within 2 years
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: Donnywolf on June 29, 2020, 04:23:03 pm
Yes if they go down there will be an outbreak of "Mad Cowley disease" in 'uddersfield
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: idler on June 29, 2020, 04:28:29 pm
My son-in-law is a terrier so when we play them away I'll be OK for a lift.
That's if they do come down. I hope that they stay up though for him and his family.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: andyst79 on June 29, 2020, 04:41:15 pm
In massive trouble along with Stoke, if anything I think Barnsley have got half a chance of survival with other teams in free fall
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: steve@dcfd on June 29, 2020, 06:31:42 pm
If Huddersfield come down like Sunderland they will have two years of parachute payments. Didn't help Sunderland but 35/40m in the next two years will make it a bit lobsided.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on June 29, 2020, 06:42:40 pm
If Huddersfield come down like Sunderland they will have two years of parachute payments. Didn't help Sunderland but 35/40m in the next two years will make it a bit lobsided.

They can have as much money as they like but they'll still have a salary cap to work to the same as everybody else when it gets rubberstamped.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: tyke1962 on June 29, 2020, 06:51:23 pm
If Huddersfield come down like Sunderland they will have two years of parachute payments. Didn't help Sunderland but 35/40m in the next two years will make it a bit lobsided.

The parachute money has been used by the new owner to purchase the club from Dean Hoyle apparently .

The club still owe Dean Hoyle £43m from the loans he made to the club pre PL days .

Another financial meltdown on its way here by the looks of it .
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: adamtherover on June 29, 2020, 07:36:57 pm
If Huddersfield come down like Sunderland they will have two years of parachute payments. Didn't help Sunderland but 35/40m in the next two years will make it a bit lobsided.

The parachute money has been used by the new owner to purchase the club from Dean Hoyle apparently.

How can money coming into the club be used by a buyer to buy the club. Until he is the owner, surely he hasn't got access to any club funds? Sounds very suspect?
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: Al4475 on June 29, 2020, 07:42:58 pm
A friend of mine tried to buy Huddersfield last year with his own money  - the offer was rejected. He was backed up with some proper investment from business partners abroad too.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: tyke1962 on June 29, 2020, 08:34:17 pm
If Huddersfield come down like Sunderland they will have two years of parachute payments. Didn't help Sunderland but 35/40m in the next two years will make it a bit lobsided.

The parachute money has been used by the new owner to purchase the club from Dean Hoyle apparently.

How can money coming into the club be used by a buyer to buy the club. Until he is the owner, surely he hasn't got access to any club funds? Sounds very suspect?

Well I work between Barnsley and Huddersfield and the town lads tell me that's how the club was purchased .

When it comes to football finance anything goes it seems , you can even sell the ground to yourselves these days .

I'd imagine they are spot on with it because you'd imagine they'd be paying Hoyle back at least with the parachute money but they seem not to have a pot to pyss in .

Hoyle loaned them another £20m when they were in their second season in the PL because they completely ran out of cash .

They've burned in excess of well over £200m to end up in the bottom 3 in the Championship .

Absolutely ridiculous .
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on June 29, 2020, 09:00:05 pm
If Huddersfield come down like Sunderland they will have two years of parachute payments. Didn't help Sunderland but 35/40m in the next two years will make it a bit lobsided.

The parachute money has been used by the new owner to purchase the club from Dean Hoyle apparently.

How can money coming into the club be used by a buyer to buy the club. Until he is the owner, surely he hasn't got access to any club funds? Sounds very suspect?

Google Malcolm Glazer and how he bought Man Utd.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: IDM on June 29, 2020, 09:29:33 pm
Didn’t he effectively take out a mortgage to buy the club.?
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: One_Matty_Lucas on June 30, 2020, 10:19:12 am
Another pasting yesterday, and a man sent off. They are in freefall, and with Charlton, Luton, and Boro all winning this weekend, the chances of Barnsley, Hull, and Terriers coming down are getting stronger by the minute, for 6 great derby games next season.

What a ball-ache it would be if that happened, and we couldn't get to their stadiums because of the virus.

Surely there would be some common sense used. If for example stadiums are closed until October they should organise the long trips for this time period. Ensuring all local-ish games are held when fans can come into the stadium thus increasing attendances.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on June 30, 2020, 11:00:11 am
Didn’t he effectively take out a mortgage to buy the club.?

In effect yes, but using the club's assets as security instead of using his own assets. Which is like taking out a mortgage on your house but using nest door's house as security. And that took Man Utd from being a debt-free club to having a a debt of about £270mill (plus interest payments on the debt).

So basically using Man Utd's own money to buy the club.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: idler on June 30, 2020, 12:51:16 pm
Didn't he then loan them some money as well so that they were at one stage about £540 million in debt?
I think that they also wanted to pay some club loans off early that were at a lower interest rate than their own loans.
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: adamtherover on June 30, 2020, 01:12:20 pm
If Huddersfield come down like Sunderland they will have two years of parachute payments. Didn't help Sunderland but 35/40m in the next two years will make it a bit lobsided.

The parachute money has been used by the new owner to purchase the club from Dean Hoyle apparently.

How can money coming into the club be used by a buyer to buy the club. Until he is the owner, surely he hasn't got access to any club funds? Sounds very suspect?

Google Malcolm Glazer and how he bought Man Utd.
didn't he just take out a huge mortgage on man utd, hence huge yearly interest payments.   Not the same as was suggested earlier surely?

But with football finances these days,. Nothing would surprise me...
Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: silent majority on June 30, 2020, 01:15:56 pm
If Huddersfield come down like Sunderland they will have two years of parachute payments. Didn't help Sunderland but 35/40m in the next two years will make it a bit lobsided.

The parachute money has been used by the new owner to purchase the club from Dean Hoyle apparently.

How can money coming into the club be used by a buyer to buy the club. Until he is the owner, surely he hasn't got access to any club funds? Sounds very suspect?

Google Malcolm Glazer and how he bought Man Utd.
didn't he just take out a huge mortgage on man utd, hence huge yearly interest payments.   Not the same as was suggested earlier surely?

But with football finances these days,. Nothing would surprise me...

It was, and is, much worse than just taking out a mortgage;

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/glazer-family-have-drained-1billion-from-manchester-united-10244576.html

Title: Re: Terriers
Post by: idler on June 30, 2020, 02:30:09 pm
They're not all bad then looking at that.😉