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Title: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Branton Rover on July 02, 2020, 12:10:13 pm
Signed on a perm with Hull! This creates a couple of questions- how much did they pay Barnsley? & yes we’re here again - is it a gamble with the court case pending
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: IDM on July 02, 2020, 12:28:01 pm
My gut feeling it is a measure to avoid relegation this season, as his loan ran out.  Stay up and the gamble pays off.. Especially if his case isn’t heard before the season finishes..

Go down, does he have a relegation clause.?

As for the transfer fee, IMHO it is irrelevant..
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Branton Rover on July 02, 2020, 12:38:50 pm
Well he signed a 4 year deal at Oakwell so quite a substantial buy out
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Branton Rover on July 02, 2020, 12:47:13 pm
Is there some kind of a transfer window open because the Championship season is still on?
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: tyke1962 on July 02, 2020, 01:19:44 pm
Is there some kind of a transfer window open because the Championship season is still on?

The deal was struck when he was loaned to Hull in January and they had the option to buy .

They've taken up that option .

Hard to say what the fee was and I can't honesty see it being the £1.2m we paid for him .

Taken a hit on that one by the looks of it .

I personally wouldn't have got shut of the lad , he's not done too well but he's a young lad after all and playing in a struggling team .

Struber definitely had a problem with him that's for sure for whatever reason .

Mowatt was hopeless when he first came here from Leeds and was loaned out to Oxford and came back the better for it and is now captain and sort after by other championship clubs .

Going to come back to bite this one in my opinion .
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 02, 2020, 01:26:27 pm
pretty obvious Wigan getting done for 12 points tipped the balance with others maybe getting -12 ???
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 02, 2020, 01:29:42 pm
pretty obvious Wigan getting done for 12 points tipped the balance with others maybe getting -12 ???

Perhaps Hull are in the same boat and wanted to get this done so they didn't have to pay the full amount in the end..??
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on July 02, 2020, 01:31:37 pm
pretty obvious Wigan getting done for 12 points tipped the balance with others maybe getting -12 ???

Perhaps Hull are in the same boat and wanted to get this done so they didn't have to pay the full amount in the end..??

it seems  i misread that 12 points lark  so its not what i thought unusual for CLH to not check his facts  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: roversdude on July 02, 2020, 01:35:25 pm
Fingers crossed boro win tonight
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: phil old leake on July 02, 2020, 04:11:00 pm
I don’t think he’s championship standard. Some games he was unplayable. For me most of the time he relied on his bulk and slot of the time I thought his decision making was a bit questionable
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Alan Southstand on July 02, 2020, 04:19:56 pm
He had a major problem with ‘attitude’, imho. While on loan with us, he was lazy a lot of the time. His warm - ups were nothing short of an insult to the coaches and the other players. He was devastating when he was in the mood, but too often played with his head down. He did improve as the season wore on, but all in all, there was still work to do with him and, it seems, Barnsley had problems with him.

Kane, on the other hand, was different gravy.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: eastender on July 02, 2020, 04:28:25 pm
I've watched quite a few of the Hull games this season , and he has been average at best.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: tyke1962 on July 02, 2020, 06:50:39 pm
I don’t think he’s championship standard. Some games he was unplayable. For me most of the time he relied on his bulk and slot of the time I thought his decision making was a bit questionable

Aye to say the least , I remember early in the season he just needed to slide Woodrow in with a simple forward pass one on one with the keeper .

Instead he took the shot on from 25 yards and it flew a mile over the bar .

Woodrow was going absolutely mental with him , thought he was going to chin him .

Wilks just walked away , never looked bothered about it .
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: mjg on July 02, 2020, 06:51:30 pm
Don’t care he was lazy
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: elmsallrover on July 02, 2020, 06:57:34 pm
Look a like he's popped up with the winner
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: tyke1962 on July 02, 2020, 06:59:18 pm
Look a like he's popped up with the winner

Like a dagger through the heart , jeez that's a blow for us .
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: NickDRFC on July 02, 2020, 07:14:47 pm
Ex-Rovers sucker punch there and sucks Boro right back into it. Shows how close it is that Hull are now up to 19th.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: afro goal machine on July 02, 2020, 07:20:53 pm
Money well spent lol
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: steve@dcfd on July 02, 2020, 07:33:31 pm
Kane and Wilkes save Hull
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: roversdude on July 02, 2020, 07:42:08 pm
They looked lost when Herbie went off
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: IDM on July 02, 2020, 07:58:19 pm
Don’t care he was lazy

I beg to differ..
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Campsall rover on July 02, 2020, 08:00:00 pm
Don’t care he was lazy
So was Alan Clarke, Dennis Law and Jimmy Greaves but they scored goals.
Wilks was a good player for us on his day, bit of a one trick pony but he was young and still is.
If he want’s to improve then he can become a very good player.
Don’t understand all the criticism he gets personally, especially now he isn’t with us.

That was a shock result tonight and puts Boro right back in the mix.
It’s take your pick for bottom 3  Its getting more interesting by the day.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: ravenrover on July 02, 2020, 08:59:47 pm
But does he mean that he doesn't care that he was lazy?
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: drfchound on July 02, 2020, 09:09:35 pm
But does he mean that he doesn't care that he was lazy?






That’s what I thought.
It isn’t clear from the way he wrote his post.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on July 02, 2020, 09:23:56 pm
I loved watching Malik for us last season. Worth the admission fee at times!
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: drfchound on July 02, 2020, 09:25:04 pm
Especially that Rochdale game.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: RoversAlias on July 02, 2020, 09:26:03 pm
I don't think Wilks was lazy. Laid back, sure, and he had his days where he just wasn't in the game (like anyone) but his contribution to that season was immense for us, he scored 16 goals (which is four more than our top scorer this season managed) and tore defences apart on his own at times.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: drfchound on July 02, 2020, 09:30:24 pm
Wilks and Marquis.
Oh to get a front two like those lads again.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Campsall rover on July 02, 2020, 09:33:11 pm
I don't think Wilks was lazy. Laid back, sure, and he had his days where he just wasn't in the game (like anyone) but his contribution to that season was immense for us, he scored 16 goals (which is four more than our top scorer this season managed) and tore defences apart on his own at times.
Yes agree his persona was laid back giving the impression of laziness. But in most matches, not all he worked very hard for the team. He would not have got picked to play if he was idle. It’s a different era now to the 60’s & 70’s when teams had penalty box goal poachers.
In today’s game all outfield players have to work their socks off.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: roversdude on July 02, 2020, 09:35:54 pm
There was a couple of minutes at the end that summed him up, brilliant turn to lose the defender then hit a shot that just about went for a throw. Looked like he could hardly walk and then got on the end of that ball to score.
Definitely an enigma one that I wish we still had
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on July 03, 2020, 07:27:54 am
I just think players like that sometimes take up too much time of the manager, trying to encourage, cajole and coach. Bit of an attention seeker, sometimes can't do the simple things, sometimes getting too involved with other players and refs, sometimes anonymous but sometimes brilliant. Consistency is not really a word you would you would apply to Malik.

It would have been interesting to see whether DM would have got the best out of him more consistently.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Branton Rover on July 03, 2020, 11:00:47 am
Enigma sums him up perfectly - remember at Bradford last season - scored a beautiful goal with a good clean strike from 20-25 yards out after contributing very little in the game previously - he used to make the difficult things look easy & the straightforward things look difficult
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: IDM on July 03, 2020, 01:11:30 pm
Cotterill was the same. 

These guys are game winners.
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: elmsallrover on July 03, 2020, 01:40:17 pm
Harry forester was the same
Title: Re: Malik Wilkes
Post by: Campsall rover on July 03, 2020, 04:28:26 pm
Harry forester was the same
Now he was a wasted talent. Could have been whatever he wanted to be as a footballer.
If it’s not right up top then the feet are irrelevant. Attitude.
 
With Malik Wilkes it is still in his court ( no pun intended ) But his on going situation can’t have helped his development.
I think he has every chance of becoming a very good player. Pity he isn’t under DM’s wing as he is just the sort of influence that he would probably thrive under.