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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Not Now Kato on July 02, 2020, 01:21:29 pm
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https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/boris-johnson-father-goes-to-greece-1-6726216?fbclid=IwAR1oaYSk8vfBiprPAhcJ5xki-BhEtFtRtvGmc6MGrQbfDw27tktloBL204g
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Boris can't be responsible for his dad, but his dad must know that this total ignoring of the rules will cause more problems like the Cummings case. Your right NNK, it's one rule for them, another for us.
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Correct you couldn’t expect corbyn to take the blame for his brother getting arrested but the corbyn did break social distancing rules himself
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They let you in if you can spell Pinocchio so that was a shoe in for him
Again a giant 2 fingers to the little man from the elite
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Correct you couldn’t expect corbyn to take the blame for his brother getting arrested but the corbyn did break social distancing rules himself
What does a backbench MP for a party that isn't making the rules have to do with it?
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Correct you couldn’t expect corbyn to take the blame for his brother getting arrested but the corbyn did break social distancing rules himself
What does a backbench MP for a party that isn't making the rules have to do with it?
It’s Tory supporters default position when they have nothing left to argue with, “what about Corbyn” syndrome
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Correct you couldn’t expect corbyn to take the blame for his brother getting arrested but the corbyn did break social distancing rules himself
Yes, but Corbyn doesn't make the rules. Mr Johnson has a strong connection to someone who does.
But as you will never criticise them its not really worth my time to point it out though.
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Ok boris should resign due to his dads actions
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Ok boris should resign due to his dads actions
That's a bit harsh.
I would settle for a statement saying that he should obey the essential travel only rules like everyone else, 14 days quarantine in an airport hotel and a large fine on his return. But if you insist on calling for his resignation I wont stop you...
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Lol all these people that have gone on holiday should boris spend all day telling everyone one of them individually that they should not be flying?
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Lol all these people that have gone on holiday should boris spend all day telling everyone one of them individually that they should not be flying?
I guess it's down to who is setting the rules and keeping to them....
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1265449109449777160.html
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Lol all these people that have gone on holiday should boris spend all day telling everyone one of them individually that they should not be flying?
I guess it's down to who is setting the rules and keeping to them....
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1265449109449777160.html
what has boris dad got to do with Cummings did boris dad make laws up? And why didn’t you make a post when the labour mp joined thousands on a march? Or does he not count either? It would be better if you did a list of all the mps or there families that have broken the rules, would be fairer and not so political then
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Lol all these people that have gone on holiday should boris spend all day telling everyone one of them individually that they should not be flying?
I guess it's down to who is setting the rules and keeping to them....
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1265449109449777160.html
what has boris dad got to do with Cummings did boris dad make laws up? And why didn’t you make a post when the labour mp joined thousands on a march? Or does he not count either? It would be better if you did a list of all the mps or there families that have broken the rules, would be fairer and not so political then
You really don't understand, do you? Well, either that or you're deliberately trolling!
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well not only does his Dad flit about from house to house in this country but now he does it country to country
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Lol all these people that have gone on holiday should boris spend all day telling everyone one of them individually that they should not be flying?
I guess it's down to who is setting the rules and keeping to them....
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1265449109449777160.html
what has boris dad got to do with Cummings did boris dad make laws up? And why didn’t you make a post when the labour mp joined thousands on a march? Or does he not count either? It would be better if you did a list of all the mps or there families that have broken the rules, would be fairer and not so political then
You really don't understand, do you? Well, either that or you're deliberately trolling!
I don’t think you understand to be fair anyone who breaks social distancing rules on purpose is as bad as each other, you only post about ones nothing to do with labour because that’s what you do to suit your agenda, is boris dad any worse than the guy who joined the protests risking other people’s lives? Why did you not start a thread about him or corbyn or corbyns brother? So no I’m not trolling I’m just stating that it’s not just tories or there families
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Of course blpool is right. Why should it only be the people who make the rules who have to stick to the rules? It's not as if they act like entitled elites is it...oh, hang on...
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Of course blpool is right. Why should it only be the people who make the rules who have to stick to the rules? It's not as if they act like entitled elites is it...oh, hang on...strange post wilts
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and the thousands upon thousands at Bournemouth beach were sticking to the rules ;) ;)
Saw one interview with an idiot "I don't know anyone with coronavirus so I won't spread it" :ermm: :ermm: :ermm:
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All idiots quite agree
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... and I posted this in answer to your similar question (reply #14 above) on Cummings (on the Priti Patel Thread) - and though were were discussing Cummings and why people presumably like me criticise other "rule breakers" out there I posted it here cos it applies in exactly the same way
Since then Johnson Snr has got round the rules by going to Bulgaria and entering Greece from there BECAUSE :
A) He needed to get to his Villa in Greece to tart it up for potential guests and
B) He KNEW he could not go to Greece directly
... and as I type this the Airbridges have been announced and do not include Greece as they still see us as a "Red zone" - SO I HATE Rule breakers whoever they are
Im p****d off with all breakers of ANY rule
Yellow Lines - simply not on
Using a Mobile to call in car not hands free DEFFO not on
Using Mobile to text in Car - blood beginning to boil
Parking in 2 spots - totally selfish action and crap
Parking in disabled spots blood boiling
Breaking lockdown by any person - simply not on
Breaking lockdown when you PERSONALLY laid down the rules - intolerable
Yes he was in a car on way to Durham but did he have to fuel up ? Did his kid need a pee on way. Did ne drive round and round Barnard Castle on his wifes birthday or sit by the River
Did he go home after mixing with Liar Johnson when the latter had symptoms ?
Did he go back to Number 10 (and Johnson) after visiting his Wife because she supposedly had symptoms ?
All the transgressions I mentioned above are to me "red lines" but Cummings is by far the worst and it has nothing whatsoever to do with Party politics.
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You would think someone as wealthy as Johnson snr would employ an agent in Greece to manage his property, especially if he rents it out to holiday makers rather than private guests - and even for the latter.
I don’t see how his trip qualifies as “essential travel” either.
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The cynics might think :
Cummings did what he did and was "exonerated" because he was following the "instincts of a Father" while others of course stayed at home as the message of the time said
The cynics might think :
However it was Cummings mothers 80th Birthday and a few days later his wifes Birthday
Johnson Snr has contravened rules and travelled via a third Country to get to Greece. He has followed his instinct as a Property owner to ensure it is in top form for any future "renters"
The cynics might think :
He has gone for a holiday (simple as)
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The cynics might think :
Cummings did what he did and was "exonerated" because he was following the "instincts of a Father" while others of course stayed at home as the message of the time said
The cynics might think :
However it was Cummings mothers 80th Birthday and a few days later his wifes Birthday
Johnson Snr has contravened rules and travelled via a third Country to get to Greece. He has followed his instinct as a Property owner to ensure it is in top form for any future "renters"
The cynics might think :
He has gone for a holiday (simple as)
This cynic thinks he was following the "instincts of his Son".
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The realists think, it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form so stop the incessant whinging like schoolgirls and get on with your life
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The masses who crowded the beaches last week and left litter like a bomb site would think “f**k it, if it’s ok for him, it’s ok for us.”
That’s the danger ldr..
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The realists think, it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form so stop the incessant whinging like schoolgirls and get on with your life
Which is all well and good, unless he contracts the virus and makes the same journey back to the UK, up to 300 contacts on a flight from Greece to Bulgaria in a pressurised cabin with recirculating air, numerous contacts at the airport in Bulgaria, and again up to 300 close contacts on a flight to the UK and the airport contacts involved again, not to mention the people involved at the start and end of his journey with getting him to and from the airport. It all mounts up to a lot of potential infections coming from one person, who happens to be the father of the PM of the UK, highly irresponsible in my opinion
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The realists think, it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form so stop the incessant whinging like schoolgirls and get on with your life
Which is all well and good, unless he contracts the virus and makes the same journey back to the UK, up to 300 contacts on a flight from Greece to Bulgaria in a pressurised cabin with recirculating air, numerous contacts at the airport in Bulgaria, and again up to 300 close contacts on a flight to the UK and the airport contacts involved again, not to mention the people involved at the start and end of his journey with getting him to and from the airport. It all mounts up to a lot of potential infections coming from one person, who happens to be the father of the PM of the UK, highly irresponsible in my opinion
And if my aunt had b*llocks she'd be my uncle is the same argument
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IDM understand your concern but everyone of us is responsible for our own decisions no one else. In my opinion using the excuse suggested is feeble. No one is responsible for an individuals actions except that individual
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this board is fast moving from "off topic" to "what can I be outraged by today"
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The realists think, it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form so stop the incessant whinging like schoolgirls and get on with your life
Which is all well and good, unless he contracts the virus and makes the same journey back to the UK, up to 300 contacts on a flight from Greece to Bulgaria in a pressurised cabin with recirculating air, numerous contacts at the airport in Bulgaria, and again up to 300 close contacts on a flight to the UK and the airport contacts involved again, not to mention the people involved at the start and end of his journey with getting him to and from the airport. It all mounts up to a lot of potential infections coming from one person, who happens to be the father of the PM of the UK, highly irresponsible in my opinion
And if my aunt had b*llocks she'd be my uncle is the same argument
So are you saying that it doesn't matter thet people break the rules and risk the lives of others? That it's all ifs and ands?
Oh, assuming you're talking about one of your own aunts then it would depend on whether she was by birth or by marriage! ;)
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What rules has he actually broken kato?
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https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN2440NY
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I'd be quite happy for Bedblocker Johnson to be shot over this. But to be fair I'd be in favour of it in any circumstance.
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What rules has he actually broken kato?
Greece currently has an embargo on anyone coming directly from the UK. So Johnson Snr took a flight to Bulgaria, changed planes there, then on to Greece. I suppose you'd call that bending the rules? I call it blatant cheating by breaking the rules via the back door.
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But it’s not illegal and he has broke no law would you agree with that?
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But it’s not illegal and he has broke no law would you agree with that?
Well this is what the Greek government say....
CAN I COME TO GREECE FROM THE UK?
The United Kingdom, which is still in the Brexit transition period until December 31, is presently treated as an EU member country. However, due to the relatively high incidence of COVID-19 in the country, the Greek government decided to extend the flight ban from the UK until July 15 – the list of countries to which travel restrictions apply is reviewed every two weeks. The ban applies to non-essential travel only.
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So no law broken then, I no you would love him to have but he could say it was essential and he went from Bulgaria, yes it might be bending the rules but he won’t be the 1st person in the world to do that
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Leave it Blackpool, he wants to be outraged over f**k all
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Leave it Blackpool, he wants to be outraged over f**k all
So both you and pool are you saying that it that it's absolutely fine for anyone to break the rules and risk the health and lives of others! And that peoples lives are f**k all? The mind boggles!
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Leave it Blackpool, he wants to be outraged over f**k all
So both you and pool are you saying that it that it's absolutely fine for anyone to break the rules and risk the health and lives of others! And that peoples lives are f**k all? The mind boggles!
No, and you know I'm not
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I hope he doesn't think of coming back before his 14 day quarantine in Greece has expired
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But it’s not illegal and he has broke no law would you agree with that?
Isn't it funny how big businesses and millionaires regularly exploit planning,tax loopholes and other rules.
It might not be illegal but it shouldn't sit right with any normal tax paying law abiding citizen.
I suppose you applaud the likes of Google,Amazon, Costa Coffee driving a coach and horses through our laws to avoid paying corporation tax?
Meanwhile Joe Public has his PAYE deducted and if there is a problem feels the full force of the establishment.
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Idler, have you never bent the rules in your life, I presume the answer will be yes as I’m sure everyone has?
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Idler, have you never bent the rules in your life, I presume the answer will be yes as I’m sure everyone has?
I have never bent the rules to cost the country millions or billions of pounds. I have also never bent the rules in a way that could cost a lot of innocent lives.
I have also never been a public figure possibly influencing others to follow my actions.
I worked for a company once where if I hadn't bent the rules on a daily basis production would have suffered badly. I didn't profit from my actions but the company and workforce did.
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No but you have still bent the rules so do you approve of amazon costa bending rules to dodge paying taxes?
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The realists think, it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form so stop the incessant whinging like schoolgirls and get on with your life
Which is all well and good, unless he contracts the virus and makes the same journey back to the UK, up to 300 contacts on a flight from Greece to Bulgaria in a pressurised cabin with recirculating air, numerous contacts at the airport in Bulgaria, and again up to 300 close contacts on a flight to the UK and the airport contacts involved again, not to mention the people involved at the start and end of his journey with getting him to and from the airport. It all mounts up to a lot of potential infections coming from one person, who happens to be the father of the PM of the UK, highly irresponsible in my opinion
The more disgraceful aspect to this is what he could have taken INTO Greece.
Greece has been a paragon of virtue in the way it has dealt with CV-19.
They took a sovereign decision (and remember how important THAT principle is on the Right, ok kids!?!) to bar visitors from countries who didn't get their shit together and who still have high infection rates. Like us.
Johnson has just flicked the rods to that by travelling via Bulgaria. It is a PERFECT example of "I'm too important to stick to the rules that the plebs have to follow."
Like father, like adviser, like son. There's a trend...
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Who are the fools here then?
The people who stick to the rules - or the people who get around/bend them to their own advantage?
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It's more subtle than that Wilts.
If a very large number of people break the rules, we are all, as a society, f**ked.
If the vast majority follow the rules, the odd few who break them will not have a big enough effect to cause a major problem for the whole of society.
Cummings ambling round Barnard Castle.
Johnson Snr going to Greece.
Johnson Jnr shaking hands in a CV-19 ward to show what a geezer he is.
They only get to do this without f**king everything up because the overwhelming majority of us have put society first and our personal desires second.
It's not about fools on either side. It's about the majority doing the right thing, and an arrogant elite minority flicking the rods to the rest of us.
If I ever forget why I despise the bas**rds' attitude, this reminds me.
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Leave it Blackpool, he wants to be outraged over f**k all
So both you and pool are you saying that it that it's absolutely fine for anyone to break the rules and risk the health and lives of others! And that peoples lives are f**k all? The mind boggles!
No, and you know I'm not
Then why the silly comment?
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I would be interested in what some of the other posters in this thread thought of my question though Billy. I wonder if they will give the same answer as you from their posts here?
Although you have missed out by far the best recent example of elite contempt for rules and the people who follow them:
Rees-Mogg saying on live radio that people only died in Grenfell because they didn't use their common sense. If he had been there he would have ignored what the emergency services were instructing him to do - as any one with common sense would have.
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It's more subtle than that Wilts.
If a very large number of people break the rules, we are all, as a society, f**ked.
If the vast majority follow the rules, the odd few who break them will not have a big enough effect to cause a major problem for the whole of society.
Cummings ambling round Barnard Castle.
Johnson Snr going to Greece.
Johnson Jnr shaking hands in a CV-19 ward to show what a geezer he is.
They only get to do this without f**king everything up because the overwhelming majority of us have put society first and our personal desires second.
It's not about fools on either side. It's about the majority doing the right thing, and an arrogant elite minority flicking the rods to the rest of us.
If I ever forget why I despise the bas**rds' attitude, this reminds me. The problem is billy why not mention corbyn and his brother why not mention the labour mp who joined the protest standing in the middle of thousands of people with no social distancing, I don’t understand if it bothers you that much why do you only pick the Tory ones out? Are tories the only people who get this disease?
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No but you have still bent the rules so do you approve of amazon costa bending rules to dodge paying taxes?
I did not break rules to benefit myself and also put nobody at risk unlike the ones being discussed here.
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No but you have still bent the rules so do you approve of amazon costa bending rules to dodge paying taxes?
I did not break rules to benefit myself and also put nobody at risk unlike the ones being discussed here.
the only ones getting discussed are Tory ones or their families do you not find that strange? And you said do I approve of amazon ect. When I haven’t broke rules for personal gain so what’s the difference from me and you? I would understand if people listed all the people rulebreaking not just the ones that suits them self I just find it quite sad
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bpoolrover, I don't have any time for any of them.
Don't you think that it would be a good idea for the people making the rules to set a good example though?
High profile people disregarding their own rules don't inspire others to follow.
Whichever side you are on doesn't excuse you and being under the press microscope makes it even more stupid.
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Yes I quite agree with you idler no matter what party no matter who you are you should follow the rules