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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on September 26, 2020, 08:46:01 pm
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Jesus f**king wept.
Charles Moore who, as editor of the Telegraph,campaigned for years against the BBC is to be made head of the BBC.
Paul Dacre, who, as Editor of The Mail turned it into the disgusting, truth-perverting shitrag it is today is to be made head of the broadcasting standards watchdog.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1309903624374546433
God al-f**king-mighty.
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Blatant cronyism and possible future news manipulation.
Why should anybody be surprised?
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Couple that with Andrew Neil's new Fox News-like news channel and there are some worrying times ahead.
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How on earth Neil was able to be the BBC's chief political interviewer, when he is chairman of the Tory party Spectator magazine, and has been associated for years with the far-right Institute for Economic Affairs is beyond me. The IEA link in particular should have been grounds for debarring him from any senior BBC role. They are a massively partisan lobbying organisation who have refused for 60 years to reveal who funds them, but who are believed to be connected to major American companies wanting free access to UK markets.
And then there was that incident when he worked with Arron Banks to cause a massive misogynistic pile-on of an award-winning female journalist who was investigating Russian interference in our elections. That alone should have got him sacked from any BBC job. But he was allowed to continue without ever apologising for it.
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Not to mention his ties to climate change deniers. I suspect, BST, with our own Fox News on the horizon, you ain't seen nothing yet from him. I really think that will be the thing that tips us past the point of no return as a country, culturally.
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The demise of the bbc at the hands of the tories is dancing to the tune of murdoch and their own long term survival it's dispicable but not unexpected.
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At least the new regime might get rid of extreme right-wing biased shows like Have I Got News For You and The Mash Report, and the Question time Brexit era! About time it restored the balance!
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Question Time. The programme on which the politician who has made the most appearances has failed to win a Westminster seat three times and the woman who chooses the audience is literally a member of Britain First.
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I hope that you use the term politician loosely in this case Wilts.
Rabble rouser would be more appropriate.
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Question Time. The programme on which the politician who has made the most appearances has failed to win a Westminster seat three times and the woman who chooses the audience is literally a member of Britain First.
Caroline Flint? She served as an MP for 22 years!
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Farage should have never been anywhere near it.
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Farage should have never been anywhere near it.
Why?
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Question Time. The programme on which the politician who has made the most appearances has failed to win a Westminster seat three times and the woman who chooses the audience is literally a member of Britain First.
Caroline Flint? She served as an MP for 22 years!
I thought you were taking about the Brexit era. Seeing as how you said the Brexit era. Or did the Brexit era begin when Caroline Flint became an MP, 15 years before the term Brexit was invented?
Then again after checking I see that even during the 22 years Caroline Flint was an MP, Mr Brexit was on Question Time nearly twice as many times as she was.
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I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
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Bias would have to be observed across the whole of programming tv, radio, and online for a period of time to be accurate I would have thought. If you are going to point to particular people and say whether they are left or right what would be the case for a single broadcaster in a program, would you say that 4R + 1L for an hour = 1 person say L for an hour or R? the 5 people can't all talk at once?
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I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
That was clever of you. Working out how people voted in a referendum 6 years before it happened. None of the episodes of couse before 2016 would have anything to do with the outcome of that referendum. If they discussed a referendum before 2015 it would be whether or not to have one.
Still taking 2010 as the cut off point, Mr Brexit did have twice as many appreances as Caroline Flint.
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....Of course, HIGNFY is not quite as unbalanced as QT. HIGNFY only has 3 left-wing biased panellists along with a left-wing biased guest presenter taking the piss out of 1 right-wing panellist!
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I see it as another massive own goal by Cummings/Johnson btw. And just another tabloid plant they have not properly thought through.
Either he wont appoint them - in which case his right-wing supporters will go mad.
Or he will appoint them and Moore will do what he always said he would do and slash funding and programme content. Bye/bye live sport (on tv & radio) local radio & tv full stop (lot of nice buildings there to flog off) expensive drama, world service, etc.
A new DG isn't just for Question Time - they are for the whole of the BBC.
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....Of course, HIGNFY is not quite as unbalanced as QT. HIGNFY only has 3 left-wing biased panellists along with a left-wing biased guest presenter taking the piss out of 1 right-wing panellist!
Dunno mate don't watch it. I am surprised you do if you don't like it - but there you go.
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
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I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
That was clever of you. Working out how people voted in a referendum 6 years before it happened. None of the episodes of couse before 2016 would have anything to do with the outcome of that referendum. If they discussed a referendum before 2015 it would be whether or not to have one.
Still taking 2010 as the cut off point, Mr Brexit did have twice as many appreances as Caroline Flint.
Where's the evidence that I was working out how people voted in a referendum 6 years before it happened? Do I detect you're talking b*llocks again Mr Wilks?
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I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
Except it didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes
I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
Might be worth checking this list BB. The memory tends to fade as you get older.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes
Just a quick browse and I see several QTs where there are,
Damian Green and Isabel Oakeshott
Jacob Rees Mogg and Julia Hartley Brewer
Arron Banks and Gisela Stewart
Chris Grayling and Lionel Shriver.
JRM and Tim Martin
Priti Patel and Charles Moore
Still. Never let the truth get in the way of a good old right wing moan, eh?
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It's just not funny, a bit like right wing comedians I guess?
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....Of course, HIGNFY is not quite as unbalanced as QT. HIGNFY only has 3 left-wing biased panellists along with a left-wing biased guest presenter taking the piss out of 1 right-wing panellist!
Didn't johnson learn his politics on HIGNFY?
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....Of course, HIGNFY is not quite as unbalanced as QT. HIGNFY only has 3 left-wing biased panellists along with a left-wing biased guest presenter taking the piss out of 1 right-wing panellist!
Something that can only have been said by someone who has obviously never read Private Eye.
PS: Were Boris, Charles Kennedy, Gyles Brandreth, Ann Widdecombe, William Hague and Jeremy Clarkson all left-wing when they were presenters?
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I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
Except it didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes
I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
Might be worth checking this list BB. The memory tends to fade as you get older.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes
Just a quick browse and I see several QTs where there are,
Damian Green and Isabel Oakeshott
Jacob Rees Mogg and Julia Hartley Brewer
Arron Banks and Gisela Stewart
Chris Grayling and Lionel Shriver.
JRM and Tim Martin
Priti Patel and Charles Moore
Still. Never let the truth get in the way of a good old right wing moan, eh?
So, on half a dozen occasions the line-up was made 'fairer' by including TWO brexiters instead of the usual one - against THREE remainers and a remainer chairperson! That attempt by the BBC to demonstrate equality to the gullible certainly worked on you!
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....Of course, HIGNFY is not quite as unbalanced as QT. HIGNFY only has 3 left-wing biased panellists along with a left-wing biased guest presenter taking the piss out of 1 right-wing panellist!
Something that can only have been said by someone who has obviously never read Private Eye.
PS: Were Boris, Charles Kennedy, Gyles Brandreth, Ann Widdecombe, William Hague and Jeremy Clarkson all left-wing when they were presenters?
So, on half a dozen occasions they took the piss out of the presenter instead of a panellist.
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I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
Except it didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes
I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!
Might be worth checking this list BB. The memory tends to fade as you get older.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes
Just a quick browse and I see several QTs where there are,
Damian Green and Isabel Oakeshott
Jacob Rees Mogg and Julia Hartley Brewer
Arron Banks and Gisela Stewart
Chris Grayling and Lionel Shriver.
JRM and Tim Martin
Priti Patel and Charles Moore
Still. Never let the truth get in the way of a good old right wing moan, eh?
So, on half a dozen occasions the line-up was made 'fairer' by including TWO brexiters instead of the usual one - against THREE remainers and a remainer chairperson! That attempt by the BBC to demonstrate equality to the gullible certainly worked on you!
1) It wasn't just half a dozen occasions. Those were all ones between late 2016 and early 2017. I got bored after that. Have a look yourself.
2) Out of interest, how do you know what David Dimbleby's vote on Brexit was?
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Plenty more by the way if you have a nosey BB.
These are just the names I recognise as Brexit supporters. and these are all from shows in the second half of 2017.
Henry Bolton and Sarah Baxter
Bernard Jenkin and Kate Andrews
Naddem Zahawi and Rod Liddle
Kwasi Kwarteng and Dia Chakravarty
Suzanne Evans and David Davies
Nick Ferrari and Liam Fox
Peter Hitchens and Richard Tice
Theresa Villiers and Simon Hamilton
Chris Grayling and Simon Wolfson
Damian Green and Fraser Nelson
Kirstie Allsopp and Charles Moore
Henry Bolton and Sarah Baxter
Daniel Hannan and Anne McElvoy
Jacob Rees-Mogg and Camila Tominey
Who'd have thought it? You making a daft claim that turns out to be b*llocks?
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....Of course, HIGNFY is not quite as unbalanced as QT. HIGNFY only has 3 left-wing biased panellists along with a left-wing biased guest presenter taking the piss out of 1 right-wing panellist!
Something that can only have been said by someone who has obviously never read Private Eye.
PS: Were Boris, Charles Kennedy, Gyles Brandreth, Ann Widdecombe, William Hague and Jeremy Clarkson all left-wing when they were presenters?
So, on half a dozen occasions they took the piss out of the presenter instead of a panellist.
They always take the piss out of a presenter - regardless of their politics - if they can. They did it to Labour politicians who presented as well. Kinnock was completely taken apart by Linda Smith.
Try again.
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
All political bias sites put them in the center and other than Channel 4, most others channels are too. You clearly don't know what Marxist means and what do you have against Black Lives Matter? Do they not matter to you? Do you not see a black person as equal to a white person?
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Gone are the days of the liberals, free to say what you wish as long as it doesn't overstep the line. We're firmly in the age of the snowflakes from both the Brexiteers and the woke brigade.
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Also. Ian Hislop? Left wing?
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Everyone to the left of Priti Patel is a Marxist now, apparently. That's where we are as a country.
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Plenty more by the way if you have a nosey BB.
These are just the names I recognise as Brexit supporters. and these are all from shows in the second half of 2017.
Henry Bolton and Sarah Baxter
Bernard Jenkin and Kate Andrews
Naddem Zahawi and Rod Liddle
Kwasi Kwarteng and Dia Chakravarty
Suzanne Evans and David Davies
Nick Ferrari and Liam Fox
Peter Hitchens and Richard Tice
Theresa Villiers and Simon Hamilton
Chris Grayling and Simon Wolfson
Damian Green and Fraser Nelson
Kirstie Allsopp and Charles Moore
Henry Bolton and Sarah Baxter
Daniel Hannan and Anne McElvoy
Jacob Rees-Mogg and Camila Tominey
Who'd have thought it? You making a daft claim that turns out to be b*llocks?
So, because I was only referring to the occasions when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson, and omitted the times when there was the grand total of TWO Brexiters against THREE Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson, my claim of Remain bias was daft b*llocks?
Tha's 'avin a laff, ow'd lad!
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Plenty more by the way if you have a nosey BB.
These are just the names I recognise as Brexit supporters. and these are all from shows in the second half of 2017.
Henry Bolton and Sarah Baxter
Bernard Jenkin and Kate Andrews
Naddem Zahawi and Rod Liddle
Kwasi Kwarteng and Dia Chakravarty
Suzanne Evans and David Davies
Nick Ferrari and Liam Fox
Peter Hitchens and Richard Tice
Theresa Villiers and Simon Hamilton
Chris Grayling and Simon Wolfson
Damian Green and Fraser Nelson
Kirstie Allsopp and Charles Moore
Henry Bolton and Sarah Baxter
Daniel Hannan and Anne McElvoy
Jacob Rees-Mogg and Camila Tominey
Who'd have thought it? You making a daft claim that turns out to be b*llocks?
So, because I was only referring to the occasions when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson, and omitted the times when there was the grand total of TWO Brexiters against THREE Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson, my claim of Remain bias was daft b*llocks?
Tha's 'avin a laff, ow'd lad!
If that's what you were referring to, you need English lessons to learn how to communicate because you said this:
"I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010, right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!".
Looks like you missed out the "only those times" bit.
Anyway, go on then. Off you go and find me the examples of the 1-4-1 that you insist happened, from the Wiki page I posted.
You'll get bonus points if you can find examples of a journalist as aggressively and insultingly pro-Reman as Peter Hitchens was pro-Brexit, and a funder who poured as much into funding on-line lies by the Remain side as Richard Tice did for Leave.EU on the same programme.
In your own time.
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Plenty more by the way if you have a nosey BB.
These are just the names I recognise as Brexit supporters. and these are all from shows in the second half of 2017.
Henry Bolton and Sarah Baxter
Bernard Jenkin and Kate Andrews
Naddem Zahawi and Rod Liddle
Kwasi Kwarteng and Dia Chakravarty
Suzanne Evans and David Davies
Nick Ferrari and Liam Fox
Peter Hitchens and Richard Tice
Theresa Villiers and Simon Hamilton
Chris Grayling and Simon Wolfson
Damian Green and Fraser Nelson
Kirstie Allsopp and Charles Moore
Henry Bolton and Sarah Baxter
Daniel Hannan and Anne McElvoy
Jacob Rees-Mogg and Camila Tominey
Who'd have thought it? You making a daft claim that turns out to be b*llocks?
So, because I was only referring to the occasions when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson, and omitted the times when there was the grand total of TWO Brexiters against THREE Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson, my claim of Remain bias was daft b*llocks?
Tha's 'avin a laff, ow'd lad!
If that's what you were referring to, you need English lessons to learn how to communicate because you said this:
"I was talking about since the Tories got in power in 2010,
right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!".
Looks like you missed out the "only those times" bit.
Anyway, go on then. Off you go and find me the examples of the 1-4-1 that you insist happened, from the Wiki page I posted.
You'll get bonus points if you can find examples of a journalist as aggressively and insultingly pro-Reman as Peter Hitchens was pro-Brexit, and a funder who poured as much into funding on-line lies by the Remain side as Richard Tice did for Leave.EU on the same programme.
In your own time.
Like I said, "right through to the Brexit era when the Question time panel would consist of One Brexiter, Four Remainers and a Remainer Chairperson in the name of balance!"
If you think I'm gonna waste my time trying to convince someone who is about as selective politically as Michael McIndoe was in choosing what foot to kick the ball with, especially when it really should be common knowledge to anyone who witnessed events with any semblance of impartiality, you can swivel.
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"What? Waste MY time?? Don't be stupid, it's much easier to spout b*llocks and expect others to believe it!!"
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I've no intension of wasting your time Mr Wigerly. Thanks for the advice, though.
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
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I've no intension of wasting your time Mr Wigerly. Thanks for the advice, though.
Too late you have already done that...and another 10 seconds in typing this
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I've no intension of wasting your time Mr Wigerly. Thanks for the advice, though.
Unfortunately you already do when you waste everybody's time with your random b*llocks.
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I've never claimed to be as good as you when it comes to talking boll0cks Mr Wigerly. I just hope 'everybody' will put up with me 'wasting their time' until I get as good as the master.
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The new guy will get rid of the lefties, that's his main job.
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The new guy will get rid of the lefties, that's his main job.
But why?
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The new guy will get rid of the lefties, that's his main job.
Then he won't be taking it. Because he has himself said the main job of the bloke in charge of the BBC is to reduce the licence fee. And he can only do that by massive cuts and charged services.
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
Nothing wrong with Pan's People mate. F*cking gorgeous the lot of them.
The only thing missing was Ann Widdicombe.
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I avoid the News and such things on BBC now as part of my "one man boycott"
I cannot forgive the once revered BBC for stooping so low as to doctor the content of an article that THEY had organised. We are always told they are impartial as well yet they can do this
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/nov/25/bbc-admits-mistake-in-editing-out-laughter-at-johnson-in-tv-debate
The 2 clips are half way down but the article says it all and as per the title of the thread it works for me "Bye Bye BBC"
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The BBC is the best we have, but it has lost its way on political reporting. Kuenssberg in particular is nothing but a mouthpiece for off the record Govt briefings to be put into the news. She's worked by Cummings like a ventriloquist dummy.
What she did in the election campaign should have meant the end of her career. When she went on the news to repeat the lie that she had been fed by Cummings that a Tory worker had been assaulted by a Labour activist, outside a hospital, two days before the vote.
It is quite beyond belief that the country's most prominent political reporter should repeat that lie straight from No10 without checking it, not be disciplined and just carry on acting as Cummings's mouthpiece.
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.... another reason I boycott BBC News not that they will be bothered
ITV is little better for a different reason which leaves me with SKY TV
Some choice but I ve had enough of the BBC's political interviews where they will time and time again let the likes of Hancock say testing is now at 200000+ when that really means they have tested 82000 (or rather there have been 82000 tests done on 60000 people as a lot of people were double swabbed
By the way is ANY Country not claiming to be carrying out the most tests - nearest to producing a Vaccine - and doing the most tests WHILST at the same time presiding over a better response than all the other Countries
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
This is definitely NOT the organisation that helped win the war! It may have the same name but that is where the similarity ends. The current BBC hates patriotism.
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The BBC that helped win the war only broadcast what the Government told it to. Thank God it's not the same as that BBC.
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... apart from as BST said somewhere earlier "Laura Kuennsberg" who steadfstly does exactly that
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
All political bias sites put them in the center and other than Channel 4, most others channels are too. You clearly don't know what Marxist means and what do you have against Black Lives Matter? Do they not matter to you? Do you not see a black person as equal to a white person?
Equality for black people has nothing to do with BLM. Black people are equal to white people. BLM is an anti capitalist, anti police, anarchist organisation. Should the police be defunded? Is it acceptable to blockade the hospital gates as a wounded policeman needs his life saving while a mob at the door shouts let him die?
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
This is definitely NOT the organisation that helped win the war! It may have the same name but that is where the similarity ends. The current BBC hates patriotism.
You mean the orgnisation that features: Trooping the Colour, Rembrance Day Service, Festival of Remembrance, Farnborough Air Show/Fairford Air Tatoo, The Proms, Proms in The Park broadcasts Parliament uninterruped and literally has an arm pushing British news to the world?
I think it's you that isn't patriotic.
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
All political bias sites put them in the center and other than Channel 4, most others channels are too. You clearly don't know what Marxist means and what do you have against Black Lives Matter? Do they not matter to you? Do you not see a black person as equal to a white person?
Equality for black people has nothing to do with BLM. Black people are equal to white people. BLM is an anti capitalist, anti police, anarchist organisation. Should the police be defunded? Is it acceptable to blockade the hospital gates as a wounded policeman needs his life saving while a mob at the door shouts let him die?
If as many innocent white people were killed by the police as there are black people, then they'd be equal.
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
This is definitely NOT the organisation that helped win the war! It may have the same name but that is where the similarity ends. The current BBC hates patriotism.
You mean the orgnisation that features: Trooping the Colour, Rembrance Day Service, Festival of Remembrance, Farnborough Air Show/Fairford Air Tatoo, The Proms, Proms in The Park broadcasts Parliament uninterruped and literally has an arm pushing British news to the world?
I think it's you that isn't patriotic.
Oh he is.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
All political bias sites put them in the center and other than Channel 4, most others channels are too. You clearly don't know what Marxist means and what do you have against Black Lives Matter? Do they not matter to you? Do you not see a black person as equal to a white person?
Equality for black people has nothing to do with BLM. Black people are equal to white people. BLM is an anti capitalist, anti police, anarchist organisation. Should the police be defunded? Is it acceptable to blockade the hospital gates as a wounded policeman needs his life saving while a mob at the door shouts let him die?
If as many innocent white people were killed by the police as there are black people, then they'd be equal.
So you agree with blockading hospitals to let a wounded policeman die?
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
All political bias sites put them in the center and other than Channel 4, most others channels are too. You clearly don't know what Marxist means and what do you have against Black Lives Matter? Do they not matter to you? Do you not see a black person as equal to a white person?
Equality for black people has nothing to do with BLM. Black people are equal to white people. BLM is an anti capitalist, anti police, anarchist organisation. Should the police be defunded? Is it acceptable to blockade the hospital gates as a wounded policeman needs his life saving while a mob at the door shouts let him die?
If as many innocent white people were killed by the police as there are black people, then they'd be equal.
So you agree with blockading hospitals to let a wounded policeman die?
And the award for daftest false equivalency goes to...
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
Nothing wrong with Pan's People mate. F*cking gorgeous the lot of them.
The only thing missing was Ann Widdicombe.
I bet I know more of them than you do.
Get us a coffee first match back at the KM and I will slip you a phone number...
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Eh Pan's People. There's one special one - beautiful Babs. Dunno what her name is.
© Norman Stanley Fletcher
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
Nothing wrong with Pan's People mate. F*cking gorgeous the lot of them.
The only thing missing was Ann Widdicombe.
I bet I know more of them than you do.
Get us a coffee first match back at the KM and I will slip you a phone number...
There's definitely 2 of their phone numbers you won't be giving me; Louise Clark and Flick Colby, as they're both now in that great dance studio in the sky.
However, if Babs Lord, Cherrie Gillespie, Ruth Pearson, and Dee Dee Wilde are still available, then so am I.
That is, if they don't mind gargoyles.
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
Nothing wrong with Pan's People mate. F*cking gorgeous the lot of them.
The only thing missing was Ann Widdicombe.
I bet I know more of them than you do.
Get us a coffee first match back at the KM and I will slip you a phone number...
There's definitely 2 of their phone numbers you won't be giving me; Louise Clark and Flick Colby, as they're both now in that great dance studio in the sky.
However, if Babs Lord, Cherrie Gillespie, Ruth Pearson, and Dee Dee Wilde are still available, then so am I.
That is, if they don't mind gargoyles.
Ruth Pearson is no more
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
Nothing wrong with Pan's People mate. F*cking gorgeous the lot of them.
The only thing missing was Ann Widdicombe.
I bet I know more of them than you do.
Get us a coffee first match back at the KM and I will slip you a phone number...
There's definitely 2 of their phone numbers you won't be giving me; Louise Clark and Flick Colby, as they're both now in that great dance studio in the sky.
However, if Babs Lord, Cherrie Gillespie, Ruth Pearson, and Dee Dee Wilde are still available, then so am I.
That is, if they don't mind gargoyles.
Ruth Pearson is no more
Wow, I didn't know that.
Only 3 left. That's sad.
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Look on the bright side, SS. You'd only get turned down by three of them now!
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Look on the bright side, SS. You'd only get turned down by three of them now!
I'm used to it BB.
F*cking Ann Widdicombe turned me down last week.
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You're not missing much.
Oops!
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BBC is Marxist BLM anti British crap. Brexit Bashing Corporation. The TV licence has to go NOW!
Disgraceful, woke gammon snowflake cancel culture!!
This is the organisation that helped win the war. Lord Reith, Pan's People, Rovers as match commentory on Radio Sheffield.
You with your Londoncentric views and football team, continually knocking our historic culture, disgraceful...
Nothing wrong with Pan's People mate. F*cking gorgeous the lot of them.
The only thing missing was Ann Widdicombe.
I bet I know more of them than you do.
Get us a coffee first match back at the KM and I will slip you a phone number...
There's definitely 2 of their phone numbers you won't be giving me; Louise Clark and Flick Colby, as they're both now in that great dance studio in the sky.
However, if Babs Lord, Cherrie Gillespie, Ruth Pearson, and Dee Dee Wilde are still available, then so am I.
That is, if they don't mind gargoyles.
She nearly ran me down in her car not so long ago (then again probably about 5 years which at our ages isn't so long ago). I was out on the lanes near her house when she came out of the lane without looking (or maybe she did look, saw it was me and thought I can get him!).
Stopped, apologised and then went off on her way. It was only later I thought, I should have got here to sign the saddle. Then I could say I have sat on one of Pan's People.
One of the one's above and you will be delighted to know that she still dances and takes dance classes if you are feeling 'fit'.
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You're not missing much.
Oops!
That's twice you've usurped me with a woman.
The same bloody thing happened with Bella Emberg.
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That wasn't Bella Emberg, it was her sister Kelly.....
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I see it as another massive own goal by Cummings/Johnson btw. And just another tabloid plant they have not properly thought through.
Either he wont appoint them - in which case his right-wing supporters will go mad.
Or he will appoint them and Moore will do what he always said he would do and slash funding and programme content. Bye/bye live sport (on tv & radio) local radio & tv full stop (lot of nice buildings there to flog off) expensive drama, world service, etc.
A new DG isn't just for Question Time - they are for the whole of the BBC.
What a suprise. Bloke Cummings wanted to break up the BBC and reduce the amount of funding it gets from the public - turns down the job because government won't TREBLE his wage! The BBC should spend less money - but more of it on me!
Yet another policy announcement that wasn't. Do your discussions first then annouce it. Then at least you will look just hypocritcal without being so incompetent with it.
https://twitter.com/henrymance/status/1312660221735600130
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You know how the BBC is this nest of Lefty infiltrators, twisting the news to their own ends?
Funny how well hidden they are isn't it?
After you have Kuenssberg acting as a spokesperson for Cummings, and Andrew Neil, the top interviewer who is chairman of the Spectator, and Nick Robinson, the key Radio news anchor who used to be head of the Cambridge Conservative students, here's another one.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54468229
Allegra Stratton was the Economics Editor at the BBC who used to tell us every night on the news how vital it was that the Govt cut the deficit, she went off to be Rishi Sunak's adviser and will now be the spokesperson for No 10.
I wonder where these lefties are? They must be somewhere cos folk keep banging on about them but I'm buggered if I can find them.
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Wife of the editor of the Spectator. Where of course Cummings' wife is a senior editor. Must have been a tough interview that one.
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Just caught up with the Andrew Marr show today. BBC's flagship news comment programme.
They set the scene every week by going through the papers with a single media expert from a major media outlet. Naturally, the media expert brings their own political take and frequently chooses stories to highlight which cast one political side in a better light than the other.
In the past 4 weeks, they've had a journalist from the (very right wing) Yorkshire Post, a journalist from the (very right wing) Telegraph, the Editor of the (very right wing) Spectator and today the Assistant Editor of the Spectator.
Somebody remind me about the facts that clearly show the BBC has a left wing bias?
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Andrew Marr's gone at the game. The last straw for me was last week when he pathetically tried to question the odious Jenrick about him and his mate lobbying each other to get tens of millions for their constituencies when both areas were way down the list for the money.
He let Jenrick ramble on avoiding the issue and then thanked him very much.
F***ing useless.
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Did you spot it's going to be bye bye Channel 4 too?
Channel 4 news has been the only news broadcast worth watching for a while now. Clearly, the government do not like a news organisation that asks questions, so this spineless government have banned Channel 4 from various events and refuse to put up anyone to appear or even speak. As an aside, that's hardly Mrs Thatcher is it?
But the news last week that the future of Channel 4 is under review and 'all options are on the table' says it all. it will become yet another poodle - owned, and milked, by some right wing chum.
BobG
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Andrew Marr's gone at the game. The last straw for me was last week when he pathetically tried to question the odious Jenrick about him and his mate lobbying each other to get tens of millions for their constituencies when both areas were way down the list for the money.
He let Jenrick ramble on avoiding the issue and then thanked him very much.
F***ing useless.
Andrew Marr is the cabinets pet poodle. He is well past his sell by date.
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There's a new generation of politicians around who have realised the fundamental flaw at the heart of the mainstream media. The media has been predicated for decades on the principle that the politicians all play the game more or less fairly. They don't outright lie. And the interviewer's job is to question them in a way which gets the facts out in the open, for people to digest and make their minds up.
But times have changed. People increasingly don't want to engage with facts that challenge their beliefs and preferences. And online, they can find whatever they want to support their preferred assumption of reality.
You'd hope we'd have political leaders who would fight against that and objective truth above sectarian advantage. But increasingly we don't. You see it in spades with Trump who just invents the reality his supporters want and calls objective truth "fake". And we have our own Poundland version here as PM of course. No PM from 20 years ago could have survived illegally closing Parliament, lying to the Queen, lying over the NI customs arrangements, taking 3 weeks off to sort out his divorce while a deadly virus took hold, smirkingly saying in TV that he was shaking hands on a COVID ward while his scientific advisers were pleading with us not to. Even that batshit interview where he made up his hobby of painting wine boxes to look like model buses would have finished a career in previous generations.
People like Trump and Johnson have realised that there are enough people in the electorate who will support them irrespective of how often and blatantly they lie. So they lie. And the MSM doesn't know how to deal with it. They are reared on the concept of everyone playing the game fairly, and their role being a referee between two sides essentially playing the same game. They aren't capable of doing what really needs to be done, which is to unequivocally call out the lies and the liars.
There are some exceptions such as C4. And the Govt now has them in its sights. And not enough people care enough to do anything about it. And that is precisely how democracies crumble away.
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Cannot argue with any of that bst and it is why they are trying their best to dismantle media that they can't fully control as Bob G and many others have said.
There is another attempt to have a commission of inquiry into Murdoch and his control of the media here which is unlikely to get up.
The concentration of the media in Australia is out of control.
''How much influence does the Murdoch media have in Australia?
Kevin Rudd is convinced News Corp has too much influence. How much of the media does News Corp own in Australia? How much sway does it really have?''
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/how-much-influence-does-the-murdoch-media-have-in-australia-20201015-p565dk.html
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There are plenty of people in here who have expressed their disgust at people politicising the COVID crisis.
I assume they'll be apoplectic at Brandon Lewis, who spent much of his interview with Marr today complaining about "socialist Labour policies" on lockdown.
In your own time chaps.
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There are plenty of people in here who have expressed their disgust at people politicising the COVID crisis.
I assume they'll be apoplectic at Brandon Lewis, who spent much of his interview with Marr today complaining about "socialist Labour policies" on lockdown.
In your own time chaps.
Doh, now you have spoilt it for me, I was going to watch the repeat later.
He started off his interview with Sophy Ridge by brazenly repeating the lie that the government have tested 28 million people - which she didn't pick him up on.
We know that isn't true, the government have not published how many people have been tested for months. They have completed 28 million tests - stats which included both the postal kits being sent out and then returned, tests that produced inconclusive results and people who had to have two or more swabs.
We have no idea how many PEOPLE have been tested. I am sure the government do and I am also sure there is a good reason they are not releasing it. What we do know is that it is a long way short of 28 million. And if I know this - why doesn't Sophy Ridge?
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Genuine question wilts.
If no one knows how many tests the government has done how do you know that 28 million isn’t true.
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Because they did use to publish both figures hound - and there was a significant difference due to the postal tests being counted twice and people requiring more than one swab. This is all in the public domain and we discussed it in the coronavirus thread in the summer. The number given by the government is the number of tests carried out - not the number of people tested:
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-how-did-the-uks-covid-19-testing-data-become-such-a-mess-11999797
https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/22/thousands-coronavirus-tests-are-double-counted-officials-admit-12742017/
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But you said that the government hasn’t published test figures for months and that no one knows how many tests have been done.
So you can’t know for sure that the 28 million figure isn’t true.
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But you said that the government hasn’t published test figures for months and that no one knows how many tests have been done.
So you can’t know for sure that the 28 million figure isn’t true.
I suggest you read the links I have posted that explains why the number of people tested is vastly different to the number of tests done.
I did not say the government has not published tests figures for months. Why do you say I did?
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But you said that the government hasn’t published test figures for months and that no one knows how many tests have been done.
So you can’t know for sure that the 28 million figure isn’t true.
I suggest you read the links I have posted that explains why the number of people tested is vastly different to the number of tests done.
I did not say the government has not published tests figures for months. Why do you say I did?
Reply number 80, third paragraph.
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But you said that the government hasn’t published test figures for months and that no one knows how many tests have been done.
So you can’t know for sure that the 28 million figure isn’t true.
I suggest you read the links I have posted that explains why the number of people tested is vastly different to the number of tests done.
I did not say the government has not published tests figures for months. Why do you say I did?
Reply number 80, third paragraph.
When did the government last publish the figures for how many PEOPLE had been tested?
I have not said the government has not published test figures. Why do you say I did?
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Because you said
“The government have not published how many people have been tested for months”.
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Christ, this is hard watching.
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Christ, this is hard watching.
Don’t read it then.
A bit like when you keep harping on about stuff.
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Another example of the BBC politics coverage taken over by the Left.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RobBurl/status/1339532871720181760
So, the four guests on the main daily politics discussion programme today are:
An ex-Tory minister
The leader of the LDs.
A political correspondent at The Telegraph.
An headcase libertarian who used to be on the extreme revolutionary left and went so far off the scale she re-emerged on the far-right.
Anyone remember them ever having a cast of
Nick Clegg
Ed Balls
A Guardian journalist
Stalin.
That would be pretty much the exact equivalent on the Left.