Viking Supporters Co-operative
Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: SydneyRover on October 02, 2020, 06:51:09 am
-
I offer him the same as he has given to his people.
-
I’m not the sort of person to wish ill health on anyone but even I have to admit having little sympathy for Trump.
My cynical side suggests this may be “fake news” to delay the election.. however isn’t this where his running mate/VP steps in.?
-
my only other thoughts at the moment are if or how it could affect the election
-
A good thing of course is that it may make some of his idiot supporters wear masks and take precautions
-
It won’t just be his supporters who don’t wear masks though will it.
Hopefully the message will get through to everyone who refuses to wear masks.
-
Just heard Jon Sopel, the BBC's USA Editor, on R4. He said that yesterday, he saw with his own eyes, Trump and several aides get into a helicopter on the White House lawn with none of them wearing masks. One of the aides was Hope Hicks who shortly afterwards received news that she had tested positive. So presumably, she had had a test by then or at the very least was symptomatic.
I wouldn't actively wish this disease on anyone, but frankly, the lot of them deserve whatever is coming to them.
But yes, also it does seem very convenient timing. 1 month from an election that he is going to lose badly, resulting in catastrophe for him personally. An election whose result he has refused to say he would accept.
-
A pint of Domestos should sort him
-
I cant believe how (personally) LOW*** I have sunk when my first thought was - aha - he's losing the Election and this is a sure fire way to get it delayed - or affect its outcome
*** Sorry folks. I apologise to the world (those that dont have me on ignore anyway lol)
-
I cant believe how (personally) LOW*** I have sunk when my first thought was - aha - he's losing the Election and this is a sure fire way to get it delayed - or affect its outcome
*** Sorry folks. I apologise to the world (those that dont have me on ignore anyway lol)
I thought the same but given his attitude there's no doubt he had a high chance of catching it.
The downside for Americans is if he breezes through it he'll portray himself as a super hero and many more of his type won't wear masks or distance.
-
It will be interesting to see how the US markets will react to this, as always it will be hard to pick but would be a laugh if there was a steep rise.
-
I cant believe how (personally) LOW*** I have sunk when my first thought was - aha - he's losing the Election and this is a sure fire way to get it delayed - or affect its outcome
*** Sorry folks. I apologise to the world (those that dont have me on ignore anyway lol)
I thought the same but given his attitude there's no doubt he had a high chance of catching it.
The downside for Americans is if he breezes through it he'll portray himself as a super hero and many more of his type won't wear masks or distance.
Agree - and thanks for not having me on "ignore" LOL
Best treatment available for him of course - and if he cant overcome this all his supporters will be crying "foul" as pundits have been queueing up to say the Republicans have long accused the Democrats of "producing" the Virus just to stop Trump getting 4 more years.
I still think (and do) that if he wins another term he will somehow try to engineer an end to the 2 terms only Presidency a la Putin recently
-
Norman Swan respected doctor has run a bit of commentary on the risk to others and said that if/how contagious he was he could have given it to Biden ................ around 90min in the same studio with raised voices.
Worst scenario trump doesn't get sick by Biden does.
-
I’m not the sort of person to wish ill health on anyone but even I have to admit having little sympathy for Trump.
My cynical side suggests this may be “fake news” to delay the election.. however isn’t this where his running mate/VP steps in.?
My cynical side thinks it affects something more immediate - now that they're not going to let him try to bully Biden in the next two debates - he knows he has no other debate strategy than continually interrupting and shouting down Biden - this looks like a reason not to have those next two debates...
-
What no FAKE NEWS! :facepalm: :facepalm:
-
Thought just come to me.
Epidemiologists reckon that fewer than ten percent of all the people in the world have been infected by COVID. Probably a lot fewer - the UK has had one of the worst outbreaks and the best estimate for us is less than 8%.
And yet, four of the most prominent right wing populist leaders in the world who all have at various stages downplayed the importance of measures to contain the spread of the virus have all caught it. Trump, Johnson, Bolsanaro, Lukashenko.
Feels like there's some sort of lesson there.
-
Like I was saying. A lesson.
https://mobile.twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1311927193673641988
It just beggars belief that ANYONE can support a prick like him.
-
Thought just come to me.
Epidemiologists reckon that fewer than ten percent of all the people in the world have been infected by COVID. Probably a lot fewer - the UK has had one of the worst outbreaks and the best estimate for us is less than 8%.
And yet, four of the most prominent right wing populist leaders in the world who all have at various stages downplayed the importance of measures to contain the spread of the virus have all caught it. Trump, Johnson, Bolsanaro, Lukashenko.
Feels like there's some sort of lesson there.
The virus is a member of Momentum 🤪🤪🤪🤪
-
Strange when you think about it, because every profile of Trump I've ever read says he's a real germophobe. However he is also thick as pigshit, so there's that.
-
Meanwhile, you know how I bang on about the importance of objective truth and how, in particular, right wing media outlets produce their own alternative reality to lie to their customers?
Look at the picture that Fix News chose to report on Trump's positive test.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RobertMackey/status/1311898883081990144
-
Err...FOX News of course, but for once the autocorrect is probably more accurate.
-
Doesn't Hope Hicks look like a younger Melania Trump...... she's done well getting a role like that at just 31.
(https://www.oregonlive.com/resizer/ttvd_1xgr8JVVL90i-zA3jLvoXE=/450x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/BQBD4BFM5BCRJDZEXH2WKZL6ZE.jpg)
-
Trump’s October surprise will be the announcement of “his infection.” Fake, but quite dramatic. This twist will blow Biden off the screens, the “Trump COVID watch” dominating every minute of every day. Then, 14 days later, Trump will emerge, 100% cured by hydroxychloroquine.
— JohnCammo (@JohnCammo) September 18, 2020
-
All his family took off their masks - against the rules - when they were sitting watching the debate. It makes you wonder if they were trying to infect Biden!
-
What's happened to SCROTUS?
-
Trump’s October surprise will be the announcement of “his infection.” Fake, but quite dramatic. This twist will blow Biden off the screens, the “Trump COVID watch” dominating every minute of every day. Then, 14 days later, Trump will emerge, 100% cured by hydroxychloroquine.
— JohnCammo (@JohnCammo) September 18, 2020
Some commentators in America are warning that the indication of this happening will be when the only updates on Trump's condition for the next 2 weeks come from WH spokespeople, not proper medics.
-
Just posting this unrelated clip from a few years ago. https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1311956049373663232?s=19
-
??
-
??
If Johnson was lying about having the virus, then everyone must have been in on it. Including the two foreign nurses who supposedly looked after him in ICU, both of whom seemed nice, genuine people when interviewed.
-
Headline in the Ayr Advertiser:
Turnbury Hotelier Tests Positive - Owner of luxurious Ayrshire resort tests positive for covid-19
No need to wory lads, its only some bloke that owns a golf course....
https://twitter.com/ayradvertiser/status/1311957865679253505
-
??
If Johnson was lying about having the virus, then everyone must have been in on it. Including the two foreign nurses who supposedly looked after him in ICU, both of whom seemed nice, genuine people when interviewed.
If Johnson was lying??? When does he ever do anything but lie?
-
??
If Johnson was lying about having the virus, then everyone must have been in on it. Including the two foreign nurses who supposedly looked after him in ICU, both of whom seemed nice, genuine people when interviewed.
If Johnson was lying??? When does he ever do anything but lie?
I take that as an accusation then that the two nurses, one from Portugal and one from New Zealand, are also liars?
-
??
If Johnson was lying about having the virus, then everyone must have been in on it. Including the two foreign nurses who supposedly looked after him in ICU, both of whom seemed nice, genuine people when interviewed.
If Johnson was lying??? When does he ever do anything but lie?
I take that as an accusation then that the two nurses, one from Portugal and one from New Zealand, are also liars?
You can take it whichever way you like. You will be telling us next that Johnson is a paragon of virtue and always speaks the truth.
-
??
If Johnson was lying about having the virus, then everyone must have been in on it. Including the two foreign nurses who supposedly looked after him in ICU, both of whom seemed nice, genuine people when interviewed.
If Johnson was lying??? When does he ever do anything but lie?
I take that as an accusation then that the two nurses, one from Portugal and one from New Zealand, are also liars?
You can take it whichever way you like. You will be telling us next that Johnson is a paragon of virtue and always speaks the truth.
Are you having problems with semantics?
If you read my last two posts properly you'll see that I'm defending the integrity of the 2 nurses, not Johnson.
I couldn't give a flying f*ck for Johnson, or any politician for that matter.
-
I just find it amazing how he's recovered so fast from being in ICU compared to people who've only had a "mild" case and still suffering potentially permanent health implications off the back of it.
-
I just find it amazing how he's recovered so fast from being in ICU compared to people who've only had a "mild" case and still suffering potentially permanent health implications off the back of it.
J, this f*cking virus is crazy. We've had people in their 30s dying from it, and people in their 90s recovering from it.
There's no consistency with it.
-
World leaders have sent their best wishes.
Vladimir Putin has said he will take care of the election.
https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1312132324725723139
-
https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelSkolnik/status/1312138971917377541
-
https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelSkolnik/status/1312138971917377541
Yes with the cameras on the helicopter and press on the lawn next to it. I'm sure he'll be looking to appear chirpy if he can.
-
I just find it amazing how he's recovered so fast from being in ICU compared to people who've only had a "mild" case and still suffering potentially permanent health implications off the back of it.
Recently stories have suggested he is struggling with fatigue etc after his illness.
Don't forget the pictures of him clapping at his door, he looked horrific.
-
Instant Karma’s gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you’re gonna be dead
Etc..
John Lennon
Just saying
-
I just find it amazing how he's recovered so fast from being in ICU compared to people who've only had a "mild" case and still suffering potentially permanent health implications off the back of it.
Recently stories have suggested he is struggling with fatigue etc after his illness.
Don't forget the pictures of him clapping at his door, he looked horrific.
He's in good hands, hospitalised and covered by Obama Care.
-
https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelSkolnik/status/1312138971917377541
Yes with the cameras on the helicopter and press on the lawn next to it. I'm sure he'll be looking to appear chirpy if he can.
Body double
-
I'm just thinking how stupid Trump has been. Since "testing creates more cases" if he hadn't got tested, he'd not have got the virus.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/20/trump-said-more-covid19-testing-creates-more-cases-we-did-the-math/
-
I was asking earlier why it was that the virus seemed to be disproportionately picking on right wing idiot politicians.
A clue.
https://mobile.twitter.com/politico/status/1312102109207117824
-
I just find it amazing how he's recovered so fast from being in ICU compared to people who've only had a "mild" case and still suffering potentially permanent health implications off the back of it.
because people are different I had it at the same time as my wife she was quite poorly and is still suffering now
-
At least all the university students not wearing masks and not social distancing “have what is coming to them” same as Cummings and corbyn and most of the black lives matters protesters
-
I just find it amazing how he's recovered so fast from being in ICU compared to people who've only had a "mild" case and still suffering potentially permanent health implications off the back of it.
because people are different I had it at the same time as my wife she was quite poorly and is still suffering now
And did you go into ICU? If not, your example doesn't really add anything.
-
??
If Johnson was lying about having the virus, then everyone must have been in on it. Including the two foreign nurses who supposedly looked after him in ICU, both of whom seemed nice, genuine people when interviewed.
If Johnson was lying??? When does he ever do anything but lie?
Obviously there is a lot of misinformation / lies etc flying round on every little thing that happens
However (and this might be fabricated) at the time Johnson went into hospital 2 Doctors were sent off the Ward because they would not sign the Official Secrets Act
Will see if the press remember- ah yes a few denials that the Docs were sent on Gardening leave - some say deffo sent away and of course a fact checker saying a Dorset Newspaper did a spoof Tweet setting the whole thing off
Thats the trouble - too much lying - and people polarised behind their respective sides. I am sure if Tories denied Johnson hid in that fridge and had gone in to buy fish for his Tea that would be believed - or he stepped out of another door and sat and had Tea with the Fish Market Manager - and I am believing that he "hid" in a fridge ONLY because it is more plausible
-
Fake news.
Trump will stoop to anything to get elected again.
The man is a disgrace to humanity imo. President of the USA.
It makes me feel sick, just thinking he might get another term.
-
At least all the university students not wearing masks and not social distancing “have what is coming to them” same as Cummings and corbyn and most of the black lives matters protesters
But not the anti-mask protestors, anti-BLM protestors, anti-refugee protestors not wearing masks or social distancing - and the police they may have infected whilst fighting with them?
How strange.
-
So far through the election camaign Trump has tried to deflect attention away from his mishandling of the coronavirus crises in the US and onto other subjects such as the economy.
Do people think that Trump now being 'supposedly' hospitalised with covid-19 will help him with this deflection? Or will it have the opposite effect and only focus more attention on how he has dealt with it?
-
I wouldn't wish this virus on anyone and I hope Trump makes a full recovery .
I can understand the cynicism towards his infection , anything built on lies , distortion and bullshyte deserves cynicism , it goes with the territory , remarkable timing Donald :rolleyes:
Just get yourself healthy so I get to see the humiliation your politics deserve at the election .
-
I suppose you guys will excuse me while I laugh at your idea that Trump or Johnson would be replaced with anyone less corrupt, the replacements whoever they are might have a different veneer, but less corrupt and self idolizing? do me a favour.
Two years ago everyone's favourite was running back and forward across the channel to Brussels trying his utmost to overturn the democratic vote of the United Kingdoms electorate.
-
I suppose you guys will excuse me while I laugh at your idea that Trump or Johnson would be replaced with anyone less corrupt, the replacements whoever they are might have a different veneer, but less corrupt and self idolizing? do me a favour.
Two years ago everyone's favourite was running back and forward across the channel to Brussels trying his utmost to overturn the democratic vote of the United Kingdoms electorate.
Was the WA a democratic vote in Parliament? And how do you feel about go back on that democratic vote?
-
I suppose you guys will excuse me while I laugh at your idea that Trump or Johnson would be replaced with anyone less corrupt, the replacements whoever they are might have a different veneer, but less corrupt and self idolizing? do me a favour.
Two years ago everyone's favourite was running back and forward across the channel to Brussels trying his utmost to overturn the democratic vote of the United Kingdoms electorate.
They might be just as corrupt but somebody who has an ounce of how to conduct themselves with dignity would be an improvement.
-
I'd take competence as the first requirement.
-
One step at a time!
-
Glyn, like Nixon they would be more dangerous.He had all the dignity on show you would ever need.
-
And yet you appear to condone it from those on your own doorstep selby?
-
Glyn, to get to the top in politics you might start off with the best intentions in the world, but by the time you reach the top and not very long after you start you are corrupt and looking for a self serving angle and to feather your own nest, and the ones that are already in the mix who will draw you in.
-
Keep taking the medication Donni and you will be fine.
-
At least all the university students not wearing masks and not social distancing “have what is coming to them” same as Cummings and corbyn and most of the black lives matters protesters
But not the anti-mask protestors, anti-BLM protestors, anti-refugee protestors not wearing masks or social distancing - and the police they may have infected whilst fighting with them?
How strange.
yes all them wilts
-
I just find it amazing how he's recovered so fast from being in ICU compared to people who've only had a "mild" case and still suffering potentially permanent health implications off the back of it.
because people are different I had it at the same time as my wife she was quite poorly and is still suffering now
And did you go into ICU? If not, your example doesn't really add anything. No I didn’t but I know of people who have, some are taken there as a precaution and some there is no option, so it would depend which one he was
-
Odd how two sides very close to the President have mis-spoken today.
His medic said we were 72 hours on from Trump testing positive. But then it was pointed out that would have meant that Trump went to a campaign rally knowing he was positive. And a few hours later, the medic said he really meant we were in the third day after the positive test.
Then Trump's chief of staff said the next 48 hours were "critical". Before later correcting himself and saying Trump was doing very well and was up and about asking for documents to read and sign.
You'd think they'd get it right, wouldn't you?
-
Some talk he's more serious than they want to be known, which would be understandable.
-
Bst does it really matter what people say? The issue is he like everyone else with Covid gets better and does not suffer?
-
Sounds like trump and a few around him are trying to cover his arse about when he was diagnosed positive
-
Bst does it really matter what people say? The issue is he like everyone else with Covid gets better and does not suffer?
Take the people involved out of the equation for a moment.
Are you really saying you've got no problem with people outright lying?
-
Lying about what?
-
Many people in life have lied do i want them to get Covid no, do I want them to suffer no! Many people have not worn masks and ignored rules so I want them to get it and suffer no.
-
Many people in life have lied do i want them to get Covid no, do I want them to suffer no! Many people have not worn masks and ignored rules so I want them to get it and suffer no.
Did I mention covid in my question?
I asked, do you have a problem with people lying to you or not?
-
As it’s a Covid thread I presume it would be about that?
-
It's not a difficult question mate, do you have a problem with people lying to you yes or no?
-
It does not really bother me unless it’s someone close to me that I care about, so yes and no is the answer lol
-
Interesting. Got there in the end.
-
I suppose you guys will excuse me while I laugh at your idea that Trump or Johnson would be replaced with anyone less corrupt, the replacements whoever they are might have a different veneer, but less corrupt and self idolizing? do me a favour.
Two years ago everyone's favourite was running back and forward across the channel to Brussels trying his utmost to overturn the democratic vote of the United Kingdoms electorate.
It's a good point Selby and when you put it in those terms it's difficult to counter .
Starmer ain't my idol and he never will be over Brexit but if he ever wants to walk through the door of NO.10 he's at least realised taking that stance will lead to failure .
For me personally speaking almost anything is better than a Tory government and I have a back catalogue of their policies to fall back on that have harmed the working class in this country .
Starmer may well be a charlatan but at least he's my charlatan .
As in everyone disliked Roy Keane but you'd have had him in yours and my club all day long .
-
Interesting. Got there in the end.
yes hope my answer was worth it
-
Interesting. Got there in the end.
yes hope my answer was worth it
No, it was b*llocks.
That Johnson and his cronies have lied since the brexit campaign and in government -lies which affect everyone including your loved ones - doesn’t bother you..
Doesn’t mean that others wouldn’t be any better - that’s not what I’m saying - but why you seem to defend certain things is beyond me.
As for Trump, I’m wondering if he will use this episode not to delay the election but to gain sympathy voters.?
-
It does not really bother me unless it’s someone close to me that I care about, so yes and no is the answer lol
I deffo dont want to get involved in this but I am promted to ask given what you have said :
If someone close to you wanted a certain drug or a certain bit of PPE or they would probably die and Matt Hancock and Johnson both promised it would be here "within days" and yet they knew they had not even ordered it and the person close to you died how would you feel about that
It would later emerge that hundreds of people wanted the thing globally and they had been outbid but chose to lie to those involved
I know its a stretch and hypothetical but how would you feel about that OR does your reply mean you would really care (hate it) if a person close to you lied to you BUT if Johnson or Hancock lie you are not bothered in the slightest
As I said I dont want to start Posts back and forward I just wondered which it was
-
Picture in The Sunday Times I think of a rally at the White House no masks and all who have since developed Covid numbered, most of them
-
Interesting. Got there in the end.
yes hope my answer was worth it
No, it was b*llocks.
That Johnson and his cronies have lied since the brexit campaign and in government -lies which affect everyone including your loved ones - doesn’t bother you..
Doesn’t mean that others wouldn’t be any better - that’s not what I’m saying - but why you seem to defend certain things is beyond me.
As for Trump, I’m wondering if he will use this episode not to delay the election but to gain sympathy voters.?
I reckon I could post numerous links of every British pm lying several times, of all parties, but that has not stopped you voting and defending labour has it? Why?
-
Interesting. Got there in the end.
yes hope my answer was worth it
No, it was b*llocks.
That Johnson and his cronies have lied since the brexit campaign and in government -lies which affect everyone including your loved ones - doesn’t bother you..
Doesn’t mean that others wouldn’t be any better - that’s not what I’m saying - but why you seem to defend certain things is beyond me.
As for Trump, I’m wondering if he will use this episode not to delay the election but to gain sympathy voters.?
I reckon I could post numerous links of every British pm lying several times, of all parties, but that has not stopped you voting and defending labour has it? Why?
The IOC have called mate, they want to award you an all time gold medal for whataboutery.
-
Interesting. Got there in the end.
yes hope my answer was worth it
No, it was b*llocks.
That Johnson and his cronies have lied since the brexit campaign and in government -lies which affect everyone including your loved ones - doesn’t bother you..
Doesn’t mean that others wouldn’t be any better - that’s not what I’m saying - but why you seem to defend certain things is beyond me.
As for Trump, I’m wondering if he will use this episode not to delay the election but to gain sympathy voters.?
I reckon I could post numerous links of every British pm lying several times, of all parties, but that has not stopped you voting and defending labour has it? Why?
Bpool.
I don't recall John Major ever publicly and willfully lying over major issues. Not Gordon Brown. If someone can point to examples of them doing, I'd be happy to reconsider.
Johnson is different. Even to PMs like Blair who were devious in what they said, but never outright lied. Johnson has built a career around lying. He's been sacked from 2 jobs for his dishonesty.
-
I don't remember Thatcher lying either. She damn well meant what she said.
-
Apparently Trump is being administered dexamethasone. If that's true, he's in big trouble. It means he is very seriously ill. My understanding is that this is recommended for use only in serious cases of oxygen deficiency because of damage to the lungs.
-
His doctors seem to have said earlier that he's improving and could be discharged early next week.
-
You don't know what's true though. The guy's clearly learned from Kim Jong Un on how to handle an illness.
-
His doctors seem to have said earlier that he's improving and could be discharged early next week.
You need to take into consideration who this particular doctor is. It's not some random medic. It's Trump's own hand-picked personal doctor. You reckon Trump, who had 6 close aides prefer to choose to be convicted of Federal felonies rather than rat on him, would choose to expose his most intimate medical records to someone who wasn't entirely under his control.
Look at what that medic said yesterday, when he point blank stonewalled simple questions on whether Trump had been treated with oxygen at any time since testing positive, repeatedly saying Trump wasn't on oxygen "at present". That wasn't the response of a neutral medic. It was the response of a media manager.
-
His doctors seem to have said earlier that he's improving and could be discharged early next week.
You need to take into consideration who this particular doctor is. It's not some random medic. It's Trump's own hand-picked personal doctor. You reckon Trump, who had 6 close aides prefer to choose to be convicted of Federal felonies rather than rat on him, would choose to expose his most intimate medical records to someone who wasn't entirely under his control.
Look at what that medic said yesterday, when he point blank stonewalled simple questions on whether Trump had been treated with oxygen at any time since testing positive, repeatedly saying Trump wasn't on oxygen "at present". That wasn't the response of a neutral medic. It was the response of a media manager.
Yeah. Not saying I believe him. Just adding the latest "news" I've seen.
We'll probably see over the next week how serious it is.
-
His doctors seem to have said earlier that he's improving and could be discharged early next week.
You need to take into consideration who this particular doctor is. It's not some random medic. It's Trump's own hand-picked personal doctor. You reckon Trump, who had 6 close aides prefer to choose to be convicted of Federal felonies rather than rat on him, would choose to expose his most intimate medical records to someone who wasn't entirely under his control.
Look at what that medic said yesterday, when he point blank stonewalled simple questions on whether Trump had been treated with oxygen at any time since testing positive, repeatedly saying Trump wasn't on oxygen "at present". That wasn't the response of a neutral medic. It was the response of a media manager.
And this is what the same medic said when quizzed about it
“ Dr Conley was also quizzed on why on Saturday he refused to admit the president had been given supplemental oxygen at the White House on Friday, when his chief of staff Mark Meadows told reporters medics were "very concerned" about his vital signs before he arrived at Walter Reed.
He said he was "trying to reflect the upbeat attitude of the team" and "didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction".
-
Saw that too. Bizarre - does he think if he just takes on a positive attitude, the virus will clear off?
-
Saw that too. Bizarre - does he think if he just takes on a positive attitude, the virus will clear off?
It appears so 😀
-
Aren’t doctors obliged not to discuss their patients ailments with other people.
-
Aren’t doctors obliged not to discuss their patients ailments with other people.
Doctors are not supposed to do a lot of things, its come out this week that one of our Ex Doctors at Stainforth was practising without indemnity insurance for 2 years!
-
Looks like Trump's team are as contemptuous of the intellect of their own supporters as the Brexit crew were over here. Chuck them any old shite as long as it's what they want to hear and they'll be happy. None of them are intelligent enough to...y'know...actually look at whether the evidence is correct and honest.
https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1312616578773446656
-
Trump supporters are rallying outtside the hopital most are wearing masks ..... you sure wouldn't want to get the virus after it had gone through him?
-
Aren’t doctors obliged not to discuss their patients ailments with other people.
Imagine the rules are different in the case of POTUS, where people will expect updates. But to be fair it's not that he's withholding info, it's that he appears to be providing false info.
-
Question is, has he even got the virus or is this a nice handy distraction after his shocking effort in the debate
-
There have been some interesting points put forward by several political pundits on some of the news channels regarding the current situation.
With Trump's illness, and the fact that he's in his 70s and overweight, and Biden approaching 78 and having suffered 2 serious aneurisms in the past, the possibility of neither of them making it through the next 4 years as President is very real.
This would bring into play the American Constitution ruling that if a President dies, or is incapacitated, the Vice-President is immediately sworn in as President.
That makes next week's Vice-Presidential live debate, which is normally just a sideshow, take on a different significance, as many floating voters may scrutinise who comes over the most Presidential looking, between Pence and Harris.
-
How can Pence take part in that debate? I thought he was such a fundamentalist Christian that he refused to be alone in the presence of a woman?
-
Course, Pence's principles haven't stopped him working for a President who has been accused of rape by several women, who has boasted that he grabs women by the pussy, and who has made lascivious remarks about going girls and his own daughter.
Funny things, principles.
-
Interesting. Got there in the end.
yes hope my answer was worth it
No, it was b*llocks.
That Johnson and his cronies have lied since the brexit campaign and in government -lies which affect everyone including your loved ones - doesn’t bother you..
Doesn’t mean that others wouldn’t be any better - that’s not what I’m saying - but why you seem to defend certain things is beyond me.
As for Trump, I’m wondering if he will use this episode not to delay the election but to gain sympathy voters.?
I reckon I could post numerous links of every British pm lying several times, of all parties, but that has not stopped you voting and defending labour has it? Why?
A it’s none of your business who i vote for, and
B, it wasn’t Labour.
So you can do one you bell end..
-
There have been some interesting points put forward by several political pundits on some of the news channels regarding the current situation.
With Trump's illness, and the fact that he's in his 70s and overweight, and Biden approaching 78 and having suffered 2 serious aneurisms in the past, the possibility of neither of them making it through the next 4 years as President is very real.
This would bring into play the American Constitution ruling that if a President dies, or is incapacitated, the Vice-President is immediately sworn in as President.
That makes next week's Vice-Presidential live debate, which is normally just a sideshow, take on a different significance, as many floating voters may scrutinise who comes over the most Presidential looking, between Pence and Harris.
But Pence would only be President to the end of Trump's term in January, unless elected for another term.
-
Drive by in a sealed vehicle, now that's intelligent pity the security men in the vehicle.
-
They now have to go into 14 days quarantine
-
How can Pence take part in that debate? I thought he was such a fundamentalist Christian that he refused to be alone in the presence of a woman?
How can he take part in the debate as he has recently been in the presence of someone who tested positive and therefore should be self-isolating for 14 days?
Are they going to do it virtually?
-
There have been some interesting points put forward by several political pundits on some of the news channels regarding the current situation.
With Trump's illness, and the fact that he's in his 70s and overweight, and Biden approaching 78 and having suffered 2 serious aneurisms in the past, the possibility of neither of them making it through the next 4 years as President is very real.
This would bring into play the American Constitution ruling that if a President dies, or is incapacitated, the Vice-President is immediately sworn in as President.
That makes next week's Vice-Presidential live debate, which is normally just a sideshow, take on a different significance, as many floating voters may scrutinise who comes over the most Presidential looking, between Pence and Harris.
But Pence would only be President to the end of Trump's term in January, unless elected for another term.
You've missed the point of my thread GW, and what the political pundits are suggesting. The concern is the next 4 years after the Election, in which either of those 2 candidates could easily suffer death or severe illness.
In that case, it would be either Pence or Harris having to be sworn in as President. Hence the scrutiny over the next few weeks.
-
I see his Press Secretary has tested positive too now.
In other news, he reckons he's leaving hospital tonight.
-
1) He's on dexamethasone which is only supposed to be used in serious lung damage cases.
2) He's going home.
Take your pick. One of two things is happening. He's either not been seriously ill and this is a scam. Or he IS still seriously ill but he knows he's shot if he doesn't get back to campaigning.
-
With all these various people in the whitehouse getting the virus and the chaotic nature of events not that the latter is unusual I can't see how it won't now have an effect on his reelection bid.
-
Dexamethasone
''They can affect about 5 in every 100 people taking medicines like Dexamethasone. These include: feeling high (mania), very happy (euphoria) or moods that go up and down. feeling anxious or irritable, having problems sleeping, difficulty in thinking or being confused and losing your memory''
Anyone noticed these symtoms in trump?
-
Dexamethasone
''They can affect about 5 in every 100 people taking medicines like Dexamethasone. These include: feeling high (mania), very happy (euphoria) or moods that go up and down. feeling anxious or irritable, having problems sleeping, difficulty in thinking or being confused and losing your memory''
Anyone noticed these symtoms in trump?
To be fair Trump has always had difficulty thinking
-
So he's left, despite supposedly having a still-active case of Corona. Either he's spreading it to all and sundry knowingly or he doesn't really have it.
-
Either way MM, this is straight out of House of Cards.
I stopped watching that when Trump was elected. It went, overnight, from being a brilliantly ridiculous, OTT drama, to being a crap satire of reality.
-
I mean, he doesn't look well at all. https://twitter.com/brenonade/status/1313256208363552769?s=20
Gasping for air, frail, about to keel over.
I don't know what to believe, but I do know not to believe Donald Trump.
-
Jesus wept.
Just stop and think.
If he loses next month, that's worse for him than dragging himself off his dexamethasone drip and risking his life.
Just stop and think.
What does he have to worry about if he loses?
-
Go to Jail - Do NOT collect a trillion Dollars
(his will be the biggest Monopoly folks the biggest Monopoly in any part of the world)
-
Good god
That hospital departue / flight / musical arrangement and OF COURSE the sickening dialogue produced by Trump is quite appalling
He IS a bigger buffon than Liar Johnson
Note to self - if I catch it just think positive - keep positive - of course and move to USA where they have the best drugs all the best drugs folks - the best folks folks the best folks folks dont forget - and the best Leader best Leader who faced that Virus down faced it down.
For f***s sake folks for f***s sake
-
I've just seen the Trump footage from last night. Gasping and grimacing. He doesn't look well.
Taken together with the haste in which his drug therapies have been administered and the rather scripted style of the medical briefing I'd suggest Trump is managing his own therapy.
Politically he wants a fast, robust recovery. Well, we will see, he's three days into a three week infection. Reality might still intrude on this theatre.
-
He has a phobia of hospitals so I'd wager he's still being pumped full of steroids and oxygen at the White House. The only difference is he's now infecting every poor f**ker who comes into contact with him.
-
It wouldn't be the first time he's experimented with medicines. What was that other stuff he decided to take, that could have fatal consequences?
Even the Fox News anchor was telling him to pack it in.
-
Domestos
-
As you said above quite correctly he dictates everything that happens and will have orchestrated his own potions / time scales etc just so he can fit into the billy big b*****s image he thinks he has
In my view he isnt - he's a very silly boy - to pinch a Monty Python line and save myself giving him a real slagging which nobody would get to read anyway
-
Domestos
Yes there was the astounding ignorance of believing injecting bleach would be an effective therapy but I was thinking of hydrochloroquin.
-
I know but couldnt get a laugh out of hydrochloroquin !
Come to think of it Domestos might not have been deemed funny either
-
Back to the White House timed to go live on the major news networks broacasting at that time.
As someone who suffers from asthma I can assure you those pictures of him stood on the balcony struggling for breath are not pleasant and were classic signs. That man is not well but he he is highly dangerous
-
I know but couldnt get a laugh out of hydrochloroquin !
Come to think of it Domestos might not have been deemed funny either
How about Vim.?
-
Cif?
-
Donald Trump has called his Covid-19 infection “a blessing from God” as he returned to the Oval Office on Wednesday despite concerns that he should be self-isolating, as the virus continued to spread among senior White House figures.
In a video message posted to Twitter, Trump said that Regeneron, an experimental drug cocktail, was key to recovering from his infection. He said it was his suggestion to be treated with the drug, which has rarely been used outside clinical trials.
“I feel great. I feel, like, perfect,” the president says in the video. “I think this was a blessing from God, that I caught it. This was a blessing in disguise. I caught it, I heard about this drug, I said let me take it. It was my suggestion.”
Thought so. He's been prescribing his own treatments.