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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: South East Rover on January 14, 2021, 05:56:24 pm
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“If you’re asking if I’m going to bring anyone in for a transfer fee then I can tell you no.” :(
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Shock horror.when Marquis left we were told the money would be used for his replacement.
Still waiting for that to happen.
I'll await the usual short term contract or loanee as replacement.
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What happened to any money generated by the football club will be invested into the playing squad
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I love Darren Moore to bits but he’s not a good
interviewee - he often contradicts himself or says the wrong thing, hopefully this is one of those times!
If he’s right though then it must be a loanee or two that we are bringing in - I can’t imagine there are many players good enough out there who are currently unattached. Bad memories of Bingham & Thomas are still fresh...
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What happened to any money generated by the football club will be invested into the playing squad
Nothings changed.
As I've posted elsewhere DM is not the media expert that he thinks he is. For an accurate picture of the situation then Gavin is the man to speak to. I spoke with him this morning and he hasn't ruled anything in or out, it depends on what AH can present to the board. What I do know is we won't be telling people how much money we have in the bank!
Don't rush to judgement based on that.
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Happy New Year you guys ..try to cheer up ..the worst that you fear may not happen but if it does you can be grim then .Meanwhile enjoy the club the team and our great position in the league .
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I think the money has to go towards the playing budget at this present time unfortunately
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Rather than take snippets and isolated quotes, I would recommend listening to his full interview. All 18 mins on Radio Sheffield.
For those patient enough to understand the man rather than critique his interviewing style, it's worth just understanding the difficulties faced by him, the club and other clubs at the moment. It is perhaps a reality check for us all.
That doesn't mean however he won't be doing what he can to bolster the squad during the window.
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What happened to any money generated by the football club will be invested into the playing squad
Nothings changed.
As I've posted elsewhere DM is not the media expert that he thinks he is. For an accurate picture of the situation then Gavin is the man to speak to. I spoke with him this morning and he hasn't ruled anything in or out, it depends on what AH can present to the board. What I do know is we won't be telling people how much money we have in the bank!
Don't rush to judgement based on that.
Are you saying that AH chooses the players and presents a case to Board. Is DM involved in these decisions?
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What happened to any money generated by the football club will be invested into the playing squad
Nothings changed.
As I've posted elsewhere DM is not the media expert that he thinks he is. For an accurate picture of the situation then Gavin is the man to speak to. I spoke with him this morning and he hasn't ruled anything in or out, it depends on what AH can present to the board. What I do know is we won't be telling people how much money we have in the bank!
Don't rush to judgement based on that.
Gavin has been good in getting the periodical updates out during this crisis. It may be prudent to publish another sooner rather than later just to bring everyone up to speed.
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I am guessing DM says to AH - I want Fred Bloggs from Blues - if he isn't available or doesn't wanna come then I want you to find me players of the same ilk that may.
Then AH goes and does the homework and presents the cases first to DM. DM says 1st him, 2nd him and 3rd him.
Then it's passed by AH to the board.
And rovers hopefully get Bloggs or one of the other three choices.
May be complete tosh tho!
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I am guessing DM says to AH - I want Fred Bloggs from Blues - if he isn't available or doesn't wanna come then I want you to find me players of the same ilk that may.
Then AH goes and does the homework and presents the cases first to DM. DM says 1st him, 2nd him and 3rd him.
Then it's passed by AH to the board.
And rovers hopefully get Bloggs or one of the other three choices.
May be complete tosh tho!
I’d expect (and hope) that Henshall would be more proactive than that, and actively hunting/proposing players.
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People need to stop bed wetting on here at every chance....
It might be that the club are looking to re-invest some of the money back into the clubs current players - extending the deals of Wright, Halliday, James and Gomes or looking to tie Anderson down to a longer deal...
It could also be that DM has a free agent or two in his sights..... perhaps we should wait and see.
I do wish folk would show a bit of trust in the club, board and manager and stop all the bloody whining.....
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I am guessing DM says to AH - I want Fred Bloggs from Blues - if he isn't available or doesn't wanna come then I want you to find me players of the same ilk that may.
Then AH goes and does the homework and presents the cases first to DM. DM says 1st him, 2nd him and 3rd him.
Then it's passed by AH to the board.
And rovers hopefully get Bloggs or one of the other three choices.
May be complete tosh tho!
I would imagine that AH does the job he is paid for and constantly watches and keeps tabs on numerous players throughout the leagues and keeps a little black book. As the requirement arises for a centre back Darren says to AH “ What do you think?” AH then puts a case forward for various players he knows about. Then depending on how proactive, motivated and hard working Darren is then it moves up a stage and the directors are approached. A decision is made by the directors, a nod of the head is given. It is then up to Darren to tell Gavin to go get the guy. If Darren doesn’t make his mind up then nothing moves forward. :whistle:
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What about the apparent comments prior to Xmas thst if we were in or around the play offs in January the Board would look to support Moore to strengthen the squad to continue the promotion push?
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What about the apparent comments prior to Xmas thst if we were in or around the play offs in January the Board would look to support Moore to strengthen the squad to continue the promotion push?
How do we know they haven’t?
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You don't get bargins in the January transfer window - more over paying for players. It certainly makees financial sense to wait for the June window to bring players in on a fee. Although I doubt that any doubtful supporter is going to be swayed by sound financial sense.
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I'm quite happy with loans as long as they're the right quality to match our promotion ambitions.
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I've just read some of the bile on the Facebook page, clearly from some who don't have the foggiest what it takes to run a football club.
Yet when challenged and presented with some information to chew on about costs and no income etc, they openly dismiss it because they can't be arsed to read it. More likely they don't want to hear it as they are stubbornly entrenched with their view that the board are not 'ambitious' just because they believe the only way to show ambition is to pay a fee for a player. That's even before considering the impact of Covid and not knowing when our usual income streams will be switched on again.
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What happened to any money generated by the football club will be invested into the playing squad
you realise we have to keep paying the players we have at the moment right?
we have no money coming in at all and won’t have fans until next season. Every other bit of income has gone. The idea among some that we are somehow being ripped off as fans because we arent rushing out to spend a transfer fee is nonsense
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Some people need to do the sums, we buy a midfielder for say £200k who wants £4k per week over his 3 year contract. Lot of money in difficult times.
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How many loan players are we still allowed ?
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I've just read some of the bile on the Facebook page, clearly from some who don't have the foggiest what it takes to run a football club.
Yet when challenged and presented with some information to chew on about costs and no income etc, they openly dismiss it because they can't be arsed to read it. More likely they don't want to hear it as they are stubbornly entrenched with their view that the board are not 'ambitious' just because they believe the only way to show ambition is to pay a fee for a player. That's even before considering the impact of Covid and not knowing when our usual income streams will be switched on again.
sounds like the have trumpitest....commonly known as havenofeckinckuebutlikeagoodwhinge
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It's foolish to think we can sell Whiteman for £1.5+m and get in someone as good for nothing. So the team must take a hit and our position goes with it. And at the same time some other teams have strengthened in this window. We need to lower our hopes and expectations for this season.
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What happened to any money generated by the football club will be invested into the playing squad
you realise we have to keep paying the players we have at the moment right?
we have no money coming in at all and won’t have fans until next season. Every other bit of income has gone. The idea among some that we are somehow being ripped off as fans because we arent rushing out to spend a transfer fee is nonsense
After season tickets our attendances with match tickets would be around 50-60k a fortnight minus off the costs of staging the match and the match day revenue isn’t much.
Our players have deferred some of their wages and we’ve also been given grants from the premier league.
So the loss of match day revenue is a loss but it’s by no means the only revenue we get over the season.
Not suggesting anything other than we’ve always been told income generated from the team will be spent on the team,
Anyhow SM has indicated it may well be the case so let’s wait and see
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Who's this glorified scout actually identified since joining?
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I understand The Samaritans may be free to help some of you
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Who's this glorified scout actually identified since joining?
If you listen to Liam hoden do his twitter q&a most if not all the loans come from him
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How do the other clubs how are still paying fees for players manage?
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It's foolish to think we can sell Whiteman for £1.5+m and get in someone as good for nothing. So the team must take a hit and our position goes with it. And at the same time some other teams have strengthened in this window. We need to lower our hopes and expectations for this season.
Some supporters may think like that but i am not expecting DM or the players will be thinking that way.
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Who's this glorified scout actually identified since joining?
Our summer recruitment was really good. Richards, Smith, Sims, John-Jules, John, Bursik (now Stoke no 1). Not sure why AH gets stick. Maybe we can sack him and go back to signing Bingham and Thomas.
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Bursik did not really prove himself if we are honest, although Lumley was a good signing. The latest lad appears decent as well.
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So in the last two days the club have stated no players will be bought and no contracts extended..... so where’s this money and the fa cup money and Covid fund from premier league all going??? Absolutely no ambition whatsoever and selling white an for 1.5 or near too is a joke.
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What happened to any money generated by the football club will be invested into the playing squad
Nothings changed.
As I've posted elsewhere DM is not the media expert that he thinks he is. For an accurate picture of the situation then Gavin is the man to speak to. I spoke with him this morning and he hasn't ruled anything in or out, it depends on what AH can present to the board. What I do know is we won't be telling people how much money we have in the bank!
Don't rush to judgement based on that.
Are you saying that AH chooses the players and presents a case to Board. Is DM involved in these decisions?
Well, AH definitely chooses the players, no doubt about that. He's also the one with great contacts at other clubs which has given us the great loan deals we've seen this season. The list of players is presented to DM and then at the recruitment meetings a decision is made as to which ones GB needs to speak to. Him and DB will finalise the deals.
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So in the last two days the club have stated no players will be bought and no contracts extended..... so where’s this money and the fa cup money and Covid fund from premier league all going??? Absolutely no ambition whatsoever and selling white an for 1.5 or near too is a joke.
The club have stated?
Have they?
I know the manager has made a few comments but I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
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So in the last two days the club have stated no players will be bought and no contracts extended..... so where’s this money and the fa cup money and Covid fund from premier league all going??? Absolutely no ambition whatsoever and selling white an for 1.5 or near too is a joke.
try paying wages and running the club in general, with no crowds were else is the income going to come from on the scale we need are some people so stupid they actually think money grows on trees
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So in the last two days the club have stated no players will be bought and no contracts extended..... so where’s this money and the fa cup money and Covid fund from premier league all going??? Absolutely no ambition whatsoever and selling white an for 1.5 or near too is a joke.
I do hope all the money gleaned from whichever source is given back to the Chairman as a gesture of goodwill from the Doncaster fans and management....it’s their club at the end of the day...
You need to take a deep breath and enjoy what you cannot change or influence.....
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So in the last two days the club have stated no players will be bought and no contracts extended..... so where’s this money and the fa cup money and Covid fund from premier league all going??? Absolutely no ambition whatsoever and selling white an for 1.5 or near too is a joke.
try paying wages and running the club in general, with no crowds were else is the income going to come from on the scale we need are some people so stupid they actually think money grows on trees
Unfortunately Michael and a few others actually live in la la land, where everything they say,think, or type carries substance......it doesn’t!
It’s just another opinion based upon an irrational personality disorder.....
But like the rest of the DRFC family.....they are loved nonetheless
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AH choose the players we would like and DM is consulted a case is then put to GB and the board. Therefore the business side and finances is decided from there. We all know what Covid has done to finances for all clubs so we would like players to come in and I still hold the hope we get one or two more players in before the end transfer window.
Also players that are out of contract will want to know if they will have a contract next season, which again because of Covid and where we will be next season will have problems sorting the budget. So we all hope we can keep up our challenge for the playoffs if not the top two but we have lost players we had before Christmas and some others are injured.
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AH choose the players we would like and DM is consulted a case is then put to GB and the board. Therefore the business side and finances is decided from there. We all know what Covid has done to finances for all clubs so we would like players to come in and I still hold the hope we get one or two more players in before the end transfer window.
Also players that are out of contract will want to know if they will have a contract next season, which again because of Covid and where we will be next season will have problems sorting the budget. So we all hope we can keep up our challenge for the playoffs if not the top two but we have lost players we had before Christmas and some others are injured.
AH has already done his work, there's a recruitment meeting planned for early next week I believe.
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I think the central point here is that someone needs to tell Darren that whenever a question arises about transfers or contracts, he just has a line that says we’ve done well to date and are always working hard to get good players in to the club, and Gavin can tell you more about the financial situation. Get him to focus on managing as the amount of confusion his comments cause is not worth the benefit of him trying to be helpful.
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Given the present climate I’m not surprised the club isn’t paying out transfer fees and wanting to be cautious etc, with next to no money coming in and a lot of expenses every month.
Just thinking over that, and this is just my rough guesses but it gives the idea:
Average player weekly wage £2,000 (I’m guessing there’ll be some higher and some lower)
£2,000 X 20 players = £40,000 per week
£40,000 x 4 weeks = £160,000 per month
That’s £160,000 per month just on player wages.
Add onto that the club staff, no idea but DM plus coach’s, accounts and commercial team members etc, say another £20,000-£30,000
Then there’s the stadium running and maintenance costs.
So I don’t think I’d be too far out with £200-250k per month in costs going out and next to nothing coming back in. It’s already been like that for months and I suspect it’ll be like that for months to come.
Obviously it’s a worry for us and hopefully we’ll get through it with a club to support but then you have to look at some of the other clubs and the wages they have and that must be really frightening.
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Given the present climate I’m not surprised the club isn’t paying out transfer fees and wanting to be cautious etc, with next to no money coming in and a lot of expenses every month.
Just thinking over that, and this is just my rough guesses but it gives the idea:
Average player weekly wage £2,000 (I’m guessing there’ll be some higher and some lower)
£2,000 X 20 players = £40,000 per week
£40,000 x 4 weeks = £160,000 per month
That’s £160,000 per month just on player wages.
Add onto that the club staff, no idea but DM plus coach’s, accounts and commercial team members etc, say another £20,000-£30,000
Then there’s the stadium running and maintenance costs.
So I don’t think I’d be too far out with £200-250k per month in costs going out and next to nothing coming back in. It’s already been like that for months and I suspect it’ll be like that for months to come.
Obviously it’s a worry for us and hopefully we’ll get through it with a club to support but then you have to look at some of the other clubs and the wages they have and that must be really frightening.
It’s £173k a month using your figures, there are more than 4 weeks in 11 months of the year
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I can accept these are hard times and that without 7,000 fans at the Keepmoat there is a shortage of cash for all clubs in the EFL, and Rovers are no exception. I suspect the club will be looking for free transfers to bring in.
So how about someone like Matt O'Riley who was once courted by some big clubs? He left Fulham in search of regular football but so far has not found a club. He must be good if Fulham signed him. We could sign him for 6 months if he doesn't get a better deal.
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Given the present climate I’m not surprised the club isn’t paying out transfer fees and wanting to be cautious etc, with next to no money coming in and a lot of expenses every month.
Just thinking over that, and this is just my rough guesses but it gives the idea:
Average player weekly wage £2,000 (I’m guessing there’ll be some higher and some lower)
£2,000 X 20 players = £40,000 per week
£40,000 x 4 weeks = £160,000 per month
That’s £160,000 per month just on player wages.
Add onto that the club staff, no idea but DM plus coach’s, accounts and commercial team members etc, say another £20,000-£30,000
Then there’s the stadium running and maintenance costs.
So I don’t think I’d be too far out with £200-250k per month in costs going out and next to nothing coming back in. It’s already been like that for months and I suspect it’ll be like that for months to come.
Obviously it’s a worry for us and hopefully we’ll get through it with a club to support but then you have to look at some of the other clubs and the wages they have and that must be really frightening.
It’s £173k a month using your figures, there are more than 4 weeks in 11 months of the year
Well that’s even worse then and pushes it closer to the £250k overall costs per month. So roughly £3m for the year.
If nothing changes, I’m guessing that’ll keep landing in TB’s lap to fund.
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I think the central point here is that someone needs to tell Darren that whenever a question arises about transfers or contracts, he just has a line that says we’ve done well to date and are always working hard to get good players in to the club, and Gavin can tell you more about the financial situation. Get him to focus on managing as the amount of confusion his comments cause is not worth the benefit of him trying to be helpful.
Perhaps he can take a leaf out of Matt Hancock’s book and just answer the question by saying “I’m glad” repeatedly.
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I don't think Darren Moore has the money to buy anyone as a replacement, I think the money from Ben goes straight to the club to keep it afloat.
I would love us to sign a replacement, but having ago at DM for this is not right.
What ever we got for Ben does help the club stay afloat for alittle bit longer..
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The club often loses money even in an average year so it must be far worse this year with no gate money. We had John Ryan, Dick Watson and Terry Bramall to bale us out, but that's getting thinner these days. If the money from Ben Whiteman keeps the wolves from the door, well so be it. And look at it from Whiteman's position he is a consummate professional who deserve a chance in the upper league. Who realistically would turn down that opportunity if it was offered to us as footballers?
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I think the central point here is that someone needs to tell Darren that whenever a question arises about transfers or contracts, he just has a line that says we’ve done well to date and are always working hard to get good players in to the club, and Gavin can tell you more about the financial situation. Get him to focus on managing as the amount of confusion his comments cause is not worth the benefit of him trying to be helpful.
Perhaps he can take a leaf out of Matt Hancock’s book and just answer the question by saying “I’m glad” repeatedly.
Are you forgetting the "Thats an excellent question"
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I think the central point here is that someone needs to tell Darren that whenever a question arises about transfers or contracts, he just has a line that says we’ve done well to date and are always working hard to get good players in to the club, and Gavin can tell you more about the financial situation. Get him to focus on managing as the amount of confusion his comments cause is not worth the benefit of him trying to be helpful.
Perhaps he can take a leaf out of Matt Hancock’s book and just answer the question by saying “I’m glad” repeatedly.
Are you forgetting the "Thats an excellent question"
I’m glad.
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Maybe it's time for DM to take a break from the media interviews?
Pass the mic over to the assistant manager for a bit. Would be good to hear more from him, don't think I've heard anything about / from him?
Good luck to whoever has to tell DM about that move though ;)
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So in the last two days the club have stated no players will be bought and no contracts extended..... so where’s this money and the fa cup money and Covid fund from premier league all going??? Absolutely no ambition whatsoever and selling white an for 1.5 or near too is a joke.
The club have stated?
Have they?
I know the manager has made a few comments but I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
I do hope and imagine your feeding some of this back in a constructive way Martin. They need to learn from the way it makes the club look to fans.
I know some shoot from the hip...............;-) ahem but its because we want the best and to know the club are doing what they can with what they have.
Comments from others over and above me need taking note of because unhappy customers will affect the bottom line. Not something I'm sure any of us want
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Everyone is forgetting the salary cap, designed to make teams sustainable, resulting in apart from a few players having to accept lower wages, I listened to Warne the Rotherham manager on radio dee dah saying he was finding it difficult to get players out on loan because sides were unwilling to pay very much of a players wages during a loan period.
So clubs like them with mostly signed players of their own are not only missing out on gate money but another money stream in the loan market from lower division clubs who in the past have paid for the development of especially younger players on the fringe of the first team.
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If anyone things that the main motivation for Darren Moore as a manager is, 'how much money have I got to spend' they have never read anything by him - or about him.
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Michael, who has strengthened?
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So in the last two days the club have stated no players will be bought and no contracts extended..... so where’s this money and the fa cup money and Covid fund from premier league all going??? Absolutely no ambition whatsoever and selling white an for 1.5 or near too is a joke.
The club have stated?
Have they?
I know the manager has made a few comments but I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
I do hope and imagine your feeding some of this back in a constructive way Martin. They need to learn from the way it makes the club look to fans.
I know some shoot from the hip...............;-) ahem but its because we want the best and to know the club are doing what they can with what they have.
Comments from others over and above me need taking note of because unhappy customers will affect the bottom line. Not something I'm sure any of us want
I've spoken to Gavin every single day this week, plus a couple of further conversations with Shaun.
I ask exactly the same questions you guys do, how much did we get for Ben, what are we doing with that money, what's the recruitment situation? etc etc. I give the supporters side of it every time.
And that enables me to post on here of what is happening at the club, it's just disappointing that some supporters don't take my posts at face value.
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SM - you do a great job (as do the management at the club). I appreciate your balanced and open input on the forum.
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I can accept these are hard times and that without 7,000 fans at the Keepmoat there is a shortage of cash for all clubs in the EFL, and Rovers are no exception. I suspect the club will be looking for free transfers to bring in.
So how about someone like Matt O'Riley who was once courted by some big clubs? He left Fulham in search of regular football but so far has not found a club. He must be good if Fulham signed him. We could sign him for 6 months if he doesn't get a better deal.
Matt O Riley, how come he springs to mind
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You don't get bargins in the January transfer window - more over paying for players. It certainly makees financial sense to wait for the June window to bring players in on a fee. Although I doubt that any doubtful supporter is going to be swayed by sound financial sense.
I think that is largely true, yes Wilts...although we did sign Whiteman permanently in the January 2018 window.
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So in the last two days the club have stated no players will be bought and no contracts extended..... so where’s this money and the fa cup money and Covid fund from premier league all going??? Absolutely no ambition whatsoever and selling white an for 1.5 or near too is a joke.
The club have stated?
Have they?
I know the manager has made a few comments but I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
I do hope and imagine your feeding some of this back in a constructive way Martin. They need to learn from the way it makes the club look to fans.
I know some shoot from the hip...............;-) ahem but its because we want the best and to know the club are doing what they can with what they have.
Comments from others over and above me need taking note of because unhappy customers will affect the bottom line. Not something I'm sure any of us want
I've spoken to Gavin every single day this week, plus a couple of further conversations with Shaun.
I ask exactly the same questions you guys do, how much did we get for Ben, what are we doing with that money, what's the recruitment situation? etc etc. I give the supporters side of it every time.
And that enables me to post on here of what is happening at the club, it's just disappointing that some supporters don't take my posts at face value.
Always great to read your posts, as close to the horse's mouth as it gets. Am sure most of us appreciate the time you put in.
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What about the apparent comments prior to Xmas thst if we were in or around the play offs in January the Board would look to support Moore to strengthen the squad to continue the promotion push?
Was that before or after the second or third lockdown?
Clearly things have and are continuing to change over time, so every business is having to adapt - including DRFC. Many clubs are going to struggle to survive without crowds, so if the fee needs to go towards staying alive but stuck in League 1, so be it.
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What happened to any money generated by the football club will be invested into the playing squad
Nothings changed.
As I've posted elsewhere DM is not the media expert that he thinks he is. For an accurate picture of the situation then Gavin is the man to speak to. I spoke with him this morning and he hasn't ruled anything in or out, it depends on what AH can present to the board. What I do know is we won't be telling people how much money we have in the bank!
Don't rush to judgement based on that.
Are you saying that AH chooses the players and presents a case to Board. Is DM involved in these decisions?
Well, AH definitely chooses the players, no doubt about that. He's also the one with great contacts at other clubs which has given us the great loan deals we've seen this season. The list of players is presented to DM and then at the recruitment meetings a decision is made as to which ones GB needs to speak to. Him and DB will finalise the deals.
Im a little surprised,and thought DM might have a little more input choosing/contacts,just going on the loans like John,Ennis,Smith and Ramsey with midlands and youth.Shows what I know.Im sure players like Dieng and Simms are on many clubs shopping/loan list,and choosing them is one thing,persuading them to sign for us is another,and I wonder if that maybe down to DM and him being well regarded,trusted in higher league clubs circles and our board.Whichever way,its a working like a dream at the moment.
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Michael, who has strengthened?
Based on the current signings in this window I suspect there are a number of clubs that consider they have strengthened. I wouldn't say losing Ben Whiteman has strengthened our first XI, although I accept the move was good for the club and Ben.
===> Accrington Stanley
Gary Roberts [Bala - Accrington] Free
===> AFC Wimbledon
Sam Walker [Reading - AFC Wimbledon] Loan
===> Blackpool
===> Bristol Rovers
Joe Day [Cardiff - Bristol Rovers] Loan
===> Burton Albion
Hayden Carter [Blackburn - Burton] Loan
Josh Parker [Wycombe - Burton] Free
Sean Clare [Oxford - Burton] Loan
===> Charlton Athletic
Liam Millar [Liverpool - Charlton] Loan
Ronnie Schwartz [FC Midtjylland - Charlton] Undisclosed
===> Crewe Alexandra
===> Doncaster Rovers
Ellery Balcombe [Brentford - Doncaster] Loan
Elliot Simoes [Barnsley - Doncaster] Loan
===> Fleetwood Town
Joe Hilton [Blackburn - Fleetwood] Loan
Kyle Vassell [Rotherham - Fleetwood] Loan
===> Gillingham
Callum Slattery [Southampton - Gillingham] Loan
Olly Lee [Hearts - Gillingham] Loan
Tyreke Johnson [Southampton - Gillingham] Loan
===> Hull City
Gavin Whyte [Cardiff - Hull] Loan
Jordan Flores [Dundalk - Hull] Undisclosed
===> Ipswich Town
===> Lincoln City
Morgan Rogers [Manchester City - Lincoln] Loan
===> Milton Keynes Dons
Charlie Brown [Chelsea - MK Dons] Undisclosed
Ethan Laird [Manchester United - MK Dons] Loan
===> Northampton Town
Mickel Miller [Rotherham - Northampton] Loan
Ryan Edmondson [Leeds - Northampton] Loan
===> Oxford United
===> Peterborough United
===> Plymouth Argyle
Adam Lewis [Liverpool - Plymouth] Loan
===> Portsmouth
===> Rochdale
===> Shrewsbury Town
David Davis [Birmingham - Shrewsbury] Free
===> Sunderland
Carl Winchester [Forest Green - Sunderland] Undisclosed
===> Swindon Town
Dominic Thompson [Brentford - Swindon] Loan
Kieron Freeman [Unattached - Swindon]
Mark Travers [Bournemouth - Swindon] Loan
===> Wigan Athletic
Tendayi Darikwa [Nottingham Forest - Wigan] Free
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IMO the only teams that have strengthened are Gillingham and Hull. Accrington have signed a 35 year old has been, Burton have signed Josh Parker his goals per games is brilliant for a full back, trouble is he plays an attacker, google him
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I can accept these are hard times and that without 7,000 fans at the Keepmoat there is a shortage of cash for all clubs in the EFL, and Rovers are no exception. I suspect the club will be looking for free transfers to bring in.
So how about someone like Matt O'Riley who was once courted by some big clubs? He left Fulham in search of regular football but so far has not found a club. He must be good if Fulham signed him. We could sign him for 6 months if he doesn't get a better deal.
Matt O Riley, how come he springs to mind
It’s clear that we can only fill any vacancies from free agents.
If you go on https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ and search for English central midfielders, under age 23, Matt comes up top and looks a good deal. Reece Cole comes up 2nd, but Matt has a better pedigree.
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IMO the only teams that have strengthened are Gillingham and Hull. Accrington have signed a 35 year old has been, Burton have signed Josh Parker his goals per games is brilliant for a full back, trouble is he plays an attacker, google him
I suspect every manager thinks they have made good signings based on their own current squad and which areas they think need strengthening. Personally, I wouldn’t say only Gillingham and Hull are stronger from the above list, as we might find out in the second half of the season.
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Why hasn’t Matt O Riley found a club ? He left Fulham in July 6 months ago
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
That’s an isolated game, which we won because of an excellent defensive performance, a couple of good saves and a winner from a goalkeeping error. It doesn’t mean we’ll be as good a team without Whiteman and Sims - they still need replacing or the team needs to find a new way to play without everything running through Whiteman, like it has for the past couple of years.
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
How are Crawley Town getting on in league 2 over a whole season the side that could beat Leeds smart arse?
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IMO the only teams that have strengthened are Gillingham and Hull. Accrington have signed a 35 year old has been, Burton have signed Josh Parker his goals per games is brilliant for a full back, trouble is he plays an attacker, google him
Gillingham have let 5 players go so are probably weaker, other than Charlton and Hull no team has really strengthened just replaced
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Vast majority of those players coming in to other clubs are...well...loans....
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Vast majority of those players coming in to other clubs are...well...loans....
Wonder if their fans think their owners have no ambition or want to do things on the cheap?
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I do hope and imagine your feeding some of this back in a constructive way Martin. They need to learn from the way it makes the club look to fans.
I know some shoot from the hip...............;-) ahem but its because we want the best and to know the club are doing what they can with what they have.
Comments from others over and above me need taking note of because unhappy customers will affect the bottom line. Not something I'm sure any of us want
FFS!!! That is just a bare-faced insult to the club management. Why would ANYONE presume that the people in charge of our club would not be doing their best with what they have????
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It doesn’t take much to have people reaching for the panic button - we’re in the midst of a global pandemic and only an idiot would splash the cash around at the moment with no idea when proper revenue streams will start flowing again - we as a reasonably stable 3rd tier club are tightening our belts - other clubs not as we’ll run as ours are going to be in dire straits - we all want to see us progress but that surely can’t be at the detriment of the clubs future as a going concern.
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That sums it up perfectly, Branton
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Quite right, Branton. And who cares where all the money goes when we are 4th in the table with games in hand. If we are in the drop zone come May then that's the time to be moaning. We just need to act like fans rather than critics and put our faith in the club's management to keep us on track. They haven't failed us so far this season.
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
How are Crawley Town getting on in league 2 over a whole season the side that could beat Leeds smart arse?
How did the team that are 'in trouble' do today - smart arse?
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Centre mid looked very solid today too, albeit they'll have tougher tests to come.
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Maybe they will come out of their shell not every forward movement now has to go though Whiteman
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
How are Crawley Town getting on in league 2 over a whole season the side that could beat Leeds smart arse?
How did the team that are 'in trouble' do today - smart arse?
Beat a very poor side in the relegation zone.
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
How are Crawley Town getting on in league 2 over a whole season the side that could beat Leeds smart arse?
How did the team that are 'in trouble' do today - smart arse?
Beat a very poor side in the relegation zone.
I think you are being a bit unfair on Swindon. They certainly made us work hard in the second half.
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
How are Crawley Town getting on in league 2 over a whole season the side that could beat Leeds smart arse?
How did the team that are 'in trouble' do today - smart arse?
Beat a very poor side in the relegation zone.
A game we would have lost in the past
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
How are Crawley Town getting on in league 2 over a whole season the side that could beat Leeds smart arse?
How did the team that are 'in trouble' do today - smart arse?
Beat a very poor side in the relegation zone.
Who have they beat recently?
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We are weaker it's simple as that. GK looks promising. Sims and Whiteman and no replacement by end of January and we are in trouble. We just don't have a solid centre mid now.
The team that could beat Blackburn is 'in trouble'!!!
How are Crawley Town getting on in league 2 over a whole season the side that could beat Leeds smart arse?
How did the team that are 'in trouble' do today - smart arse?
Beat a very poor side in the relegation zone.
A team who have beaten Ipswich and drawn with Charlton since we last played them - they must be in real trouble those two teams then?
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“If you’re asking if I’m going to bring anyone in for a transfer fee then I can tell you no.” :(
This was the opening post to this thread.
DM and team have brought in 2 superb loans and a 2 rather tasty prospects on 18 month contracts. One was a free agent, the other was unwanted at his previous club. I suspect no transfer fees were paid.
Therefore DM’s quote turned out to be accurate. And we have had 3 pages of discussion (arguments) over nothing!
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I am guessing DM says to AH - I want Fred Bloggs from Blues - if he isn't available or doesn't wanna come then I want you to find me players of the same ilk that may.
Then AH goes and does the homework and presents the cases first to DM. DM says 1st him, 2nd him and 3rd him.
Then it's passed by AH to the board.
And rovers hopefully get Bloggs or one of the other three choices.
May be complete tosh tho!
I would imagine that AH does the job he is paid for and constantly watches and keeps tabs on numerous players throughout the leagues and keeps a little black book. As the requirement arises for a centre back Darren says to AH “ What do you think?” AH then puts a case forward for various players he knows about. Then depending on how proactive, motivated and hard working Darren is then it moves up a stage and the directors are approached. A decision is made by the directors, a nod of the head is given. It is then up to Darren to tell Gavin to go get the guy. If Darren doesn’t make his mind up then nothing moves forward. :whistle:
Yep, I would agree with all of that.
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Tbf I think we have had a good jan transfer window. I'm happy.
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Come to think about it the last few January windows we have done good business. I think this one tops our last season in the championship when we brought in Tamas, Sharp, and Miete however you spell that plus a keeper off top of my head.
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Come to think about it the last few January windows we have done good business. I think this one tops our last season in the championship when we brought in Tamas, Sharp, and Miete however you spell that plus a keeper off top of my head.
What was the keeper doing on the top of your head?
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Dan Druff?
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Dan Druff?
Wasn't he an Eire international?
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Come to think about it the last few January windows we have done good business. I think this one tops our last season in the championship when we brought in Tamas, Sharp, and Miete however you spell that plus a keeper off top of my head.
What was the keeper doing on the top of your head?
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Who's this glorified scout actually identified since joining?
It seems this “glorified scout” has been a tad busy, care to comment on your statement after a productive week?