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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: silent majority on May 14, 2021, 11:53:05 am
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
Are you delighted he’s joining us?
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Torture. A whole weekend of wondering.....
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Or, a whole weekend of anticipation.
Depends how you look at life I suppose.
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Torture. A whole weekend of wondering.....
I thought we all pretty much know who it is.
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SM if you do not repond we will take you are not a happy bunny
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
Are you delighted he’s joining us?
Great question
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:ermm:A delay with Wellens’s references?
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Monday it is.
Roll on the Wellens/Robinson/Eustace revolution!
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SM if you do not repond we will take you are not a happy bunny
I'm more than happy thank you.
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Robinson it is then
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Robinson it is then
10/1 Robinson? Hmmm
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It’s a great time to lump on one of the others if it’s not Wellens!
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
Are you delighted he’s joining us?
Great question
Naughty boy Gaz :-D
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Lump on!
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SM if you do not repond we will take you are not a happy bunny
I'm more than happy thank you.
Happy with the appointment?
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If it is Robinson roll on league 2
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Oh dear, here we go!!!!
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a small point, has any official from the club confirmed any of the candidates?
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SM if you do not repond we will take you are not a happy bunny
I'm more than happy thank you.
But to be clear, there is no hint in that comment at all.
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SM said "Joining the club" is that a hint as RW would be "Re-Joining".
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
You would imagine it’s because a contract hasn’t been signed.
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Will we get any warning as to what time on Monday the announcement will be? The press will presumably have notice in advance of what time it'll be made...
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
I completely agree, I just don’t understand if the manager has agreed why they don’t announce it. Unless these meetings are going to have a direct influence on whether or not we actually get this manager then surely it would make sense to announce it now given we’re already delayed by over a week from the original timeline.
Perhaps I’m reading too much into it but I just can’t see why they wouldn’t announce unless it wasn’t agreed.
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Which Monday?
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Maybe the new manager needs to get his back room staff in place and one of them needs to tell his current employer.
I would imagine that both sides legal team or agents will want to scrutinise any contract.
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We all know- It's Blatantly going to be Wellens.
Some will love him, some will hate him. That's just football and how it works- one thing I'm sure we all agree on is the fact that we want the club to do well.
Already excited for next season- didn't think I'd be saying that after the disappointment of last.
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Maybe the new manager needs to get his back room staff in place and one of them needs to tell his current employer.
I would imagine that both sides legal team or agents will want to scrutinise any contract.
I agree, think the DFP article suggested he wants to sort out his assistant. I guess Copps has turned his phone off for the weekend so he can get his painting finished!
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
You would imagine it’s because a contract hasn’t been signed.
We've surely not lost the pen again have we !!!!
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
You would imagine it’s because a contract hasn’t been signed.
We've surely not lost the pen again have we !!!!
You'd think- with how often we lose pens that we'd just buy a box!
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
You would imagine it’s because a contract hasn’t been signed.
We've surely not lost the pen again have we !!!!
You'd think- with how often we lose pens that we'd just buy a box!
'Hardest part is getting them over the line!'
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Wellens and Copps ...a dream duo.
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All this reminds of a line in a Woody Guthrie song
I want my milk and I want it NOW
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
There's nothing to overcome, but there are still things to do. It was always anticipated, as I mentioned the other day, that it could go to Monday, and so its proved.
I just thought that letting people know that a manager had accepted the role would end some of the worry rather than saying nothing at all until Monday.
Sometimes I do despair. I do try to keep people in the loop and offered my advice to the club and that seems to have had the opposite effect.
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SM. it will soon be over do not despair ..retirement will be your opportunity to view this forum in a different light and with a different purpose .Andy Liney had eccentric more to be despondent about and your successor on here may have too .Perhaps it would be better to hive off the forum and have the Co operative Chair use the official website only .
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
There's nothing to overcome, but there are still things to do. It was always anticipated, as I mentioned the other day, that it could go to Monday, and so its proved.
I just thought that letting people know that a manager had accepted the role would end some of the worry rather than saying nothing at all until Monday.
Sometimes I do despair. I do try to keep people in the loop and offered my advice to the club and that seems to have had the opposite effect.
This wasn’t a personal criticism. The same update is in the Free Press. All the updates have been appreciated. I just don’t understand why the club themselves aren’t communicating this one now it’s concluded. A small proportion get updates through this forum. And some more via the DFP and the Free Press. I just feel the club should officially communicate the outcome to the fans now, it’s an important thing.
Just my view. Others can and will disagree.
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
There's nothing to overcome, but there are still things to do. It was always anticipated, as I mentioned the other day, that it could go to Monday, and so its proved.
I just thought that letting people know that a manager had accepted the role would end some of the worry rather than saying nothing at all until Monday.
Sometimes I do despair. I do try to keep people in the loop and offered my advice to the club and that seems to have had the opposite effect.
I think you’re taking it a bit personally and defensively - can’t say I blame you with some of the general criticisms from the fan base but I don’t think it’s needed in this instance. I can’t speak for Jonathan but I agree with him, and I think it’s possible to be appreciative of the board, think they get most things right but still question some decision making - it’s not doom-mongering for the sake of it.
Our recruitment process is very protracted. I’ve no complaints with that as it’s delivered us two good managers in the last couple of years. But surely you can see why folk get frustrated with delays particularly if “everything is in place and there’s nothing to overcome”. What is there actually to do that would mean it can’t be announced until Monday unless there’s some small possibility that it may fall through?
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It won’t work with RW
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Look on twitter hes liking peoples tweets the man is back get in
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Just throwing it out there but how about Wellens with Brian stock as assistant manager, sully as goalkeeping coach and mills as defensive coach. Completing the set up get billy sharpe in as player coach. The dream team.!
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Hi Jonathan
I have no idea of the reality, but it would be pretty easy to imagine that arrangements have to be made for assistant managers and such like and that they must tell their current employers berfore the Rovers splash anything all over the media. It might not be that of course, but it's a reasonable supposition.
Cheers!
BobG
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SM has just told us himself who it is. He said he “offered the board his advice and it’s had the opposite effect”. Well he disliked Wellens and the board feel the “opposite “!
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I think the frustration with delays etc. is heightened because of the way the season ended and the current state of the squad. As fans we are invested in the news and want to see signs the club is urgently getting on with the re-building job as soon as possible.
I suppose DRFC (under different regimes) have been burnt by slow processes and decision-making in the past which adds to people's anxiety, rightly or wrongly.
If it's all sorted, we'll just have to trust that the work is going on this weekend.
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We do like to turn a mini series into a box set
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John Eustace is the only one employed and may have to hand in his notice before it can be announced :ermm:
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
There's nothing to overcome, but there are still things to do. It was always anticipated, as I mentioned the other day, that it could go to Monday, and so its proved.
I just thought that letting people know that a manager had accepted the role would end some of the worry rather than saying nothing at all until Monday.
Sometimes I do despair. I do try to keep people in the loop and offered my advice to the club and that seems to have had the opposite effect.
Im sure the club listened to your advice, and the advice of many others during the process. There will have been pros and cons for all the candidates.
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All points taken on board, and I don’t expect everyone to agree.
To clarify again, this definitely wasn’t a dig at the updates we’ve had on here. Quite the opposite, we’d have been lost without them. I think the club get a hell of a lot of things right. But sometimes they don’t hit the right note, and on an issue as significant as this I can’t help but think they’re relying too heavily on a supporters representative to do their work for them.
Those that know me know that I’m not one of the serial moaners or one of the types that expects everything now. But when was the last time that the club released a statement on this important matter? Everyone has waited and waited, and we on here have been lucky enough to get an insight offered up regularly. But now the process has concluded I think the club should put an end to the speculation and make an official announcement as soon as they can.
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That is a very fair summary, and question, Jonathan. But then, if there is an existing comms channel, Martin, why invent another one? Especially when the club is trying to foster good relations with supporters....
Lol. There's always, always, another side to every single thing....
BobG
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All points taken on board, and I don’t expect everyone to agree.
To clarify again, this definitely wasn’t a dig at the updates we’ve had on here. Quite the opposite, we’d have been lost without them. I think the club get a hell of a lot of things right. But sometimes they don’t hit the right note, and on an issue as significant as this I can’t help but think they’re relying too heavily on a supporters representative to do their work for them.
Those that know me know that I’m not one of the serial moaners or one of the types that expects everything now. But when was the last time that the club released a statement on this important matter? Everyone has waited and waited, and we on here have been lucky enough to get an insight offered up regularly. But now the process has concluded I think the club should put an end to the speculation and make an official announcement as soon as they can.
It seems they make statements via Martin, Liam or both.
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What is with our fanbase? Or I should say...the online sector of our fanbase?
People acting like this has somehow been dragged out or we are told one thing and another happens. Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy.
Have some bloody patience. It is the second week in May - pre-season starts in 7 weeks and the new season is 3 months away! The club have not done anything other than carry out the thorough, necessary process to appoint the right manager as they have the last three times, and both the Free Press and, in particular, Martin, has kept the fans up-to-date with as much information as possible.
Us lot sat on our computers and phones waiting for news every day might feel like it's taking ages but that's because of the very fact that we are sat online trying to find everything out. It was never, ever said that it would be announced by today, nor does the fact it will be announced on Monday mean anything is wrong. The "speculation" that apparently needs to be put to bed hardly even exists, it's just a few threads on this forum and some tweets debating who it is.
My dad is an avid Rovers fan, has had a season ticket for years and cares deeply about the club. But he's not online so he isn't sat wondering who the new manager is, he's just going about his life waiting to see and whenever it happens, it happens. I think more of us should have that perspective at the moment instead of begging for all the information now and yesterday.
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SM has just told us himself who it is. He said he “offered the board his advice and it’s had the opposite effect”. Well he disliked Wellens and the board feel the “opposite “!
That's a complete misinterpretation.
We agreed that a good course of action would be for me to put this on the forum, it has nothing to do with who the manager should be.
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
There's nothing to overcome, but there are still things to do. It was always anticipated, as I mentioned the other day, that it could go to Monday, and so its proved.
I just thought that letting people know that a manager had accepted the role would end some of the worry rather than saying nothing at all until Monday.
Sometimes I do despair. I do try to keep people in the loop and offered my advice to the club and that seems to have had the opposite effect.
Im sure the club listened to your advice, and the advice of many others during the process. There will have been pros and cons for all the candidates.
You misunderstand too, I haven't offered my opinion on who the manager should be. I was talking specifically about giving out the information this morning.
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All points taken on board, and I don’t expect everyone to agree.
To clarify again, this definitely wasn’t a dig at the updates we’ve had on here. Quite the opposite, we’d have been lost without them. I think the club get a hell of a lot of things right. But sometimes they don’t hit the right note, and on an issue as significant as this I can’t help but think they’re relying too heavily on a supporters representative to do their work for them.
Those that know me know that I’m not one of the serial moaners or one of the types that expects everything now. But when was the last time that the club released a statement on this important matter? Everyone has waited and waited, and we on here have been lucky enough to get an insight offered up regularly. But now the process has concluded I think the club should put an end to the speculation and make an official announcement as soon as they can.
Jonathan,
As the supporters trust has an MOU in place with the club they provide updates on all key issues. They have stood by that agreement ever since it was signed and agreed.
The signed MOU was something we asked for so that supporters can feel in the loop at all times. A lot of what we discuss and hear about never makes it to the forum, but we are consulted anyhow and offer our advice on a regular basis.
I think your suggestion that the club let a supporters rep do their work isn't correct. I don't feel as if I'm doing their work, in my opinion I'm doing the work of the VSC and hoping that all supporters feel connected. The MOU has been a major shift in relations with DRFC and something that the supporters movement has championed for a few years, but very few clubs actually put in place.
You may see it as we're doing the work of the club, but I don't, I see it as the club being as open and honest as they can be.
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Spare a thought for the Board. They have a major decision to make that could easily result in them incurring the oft manifested criticism from the fan / customerbase as well as suffering huge financial loss if the decision turns out to be the wrong one.
Can't blame them for taking their time.
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
Perhaps Jurgen hasn’t informed Liverpool of his decision yet.....
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
There's nothing to overcome, but there are still things to do. It was always anticipated, as I mentioned the other day, that it could go to Monday, and so its proved.
I just thought that letting people know that a manager had accepted the role would end some of the worry rather than saying nothing at all until Monday.
Sometimes I do despair. I do try to keep people in the loop and offered my advice to the club and that seems to have had the opposite effect.
This wasn’t a personal criticism. The same update is in the Free Press. All the updates have been appreciated. I just don’t understand why the club themselves aren’t communicating this one now it’s concluded. A small proportion get updates through this forum. And some more via the DFP and the Free Press. I just feel the club should officially communicate the outcome to the fans now, it’s an important thing.
Just my view. Others can and will disagree.
One of the candidates was still in a job, I believe. Perhaps Rovers can't make an announcement until arrangements with current employers have been sorted out? it's not always just about Rovers doing what they want to, you know.
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
a”Their first choice” ? So what happened to the two who wanted to be considered but couldn’t get to the Keepmoat only to both change their minds .. why offer to hold over the interviews if your first choice is still in the running? . It’s Wellens then !!
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Have you ever conducted an interview process 1969?
BobG
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
a”Their first choice” ? So what happened to the two who wanted to be considered but couldn’t get to the Keepmoat only to both change their minds .. why offer to hold over the interviews if your first choice is still in the running? . It’s Wellens then !!
Wrong end of the stick there I think. It wasn't the 2 who put off their interviews until the Monday who changed their minds I understood it to be 2 from the 1st earlier set of interviews who withdrew their applications prior to being interviewed, that is even if they had even been offered an interview in the 1st place.
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
a”Their first choice” ? So what happened to the two who wanted to be considered but couldn’t get to the Keepmoat only to both change their minds .. why offer to hold over the interviews if your first choice is still in the running? . It’s Wellens then !!
I think it means their first choice after the final interviews.....jeez!
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
a”Their first choice” ? So what happened to the two who wanted to be considered but couldn’t get to the Keepmoat only to both change their minds .. why offer to hold over the interviews if your first choice is still in the running? . It’s Wellens then !!
Wrong end of the stick there I think. It wasn't the 2 who put off their interviews until the Monday who changed their minds I understood it to be 2 from the 1st earlier set of interviews who withdrew their applications prior to being interviewed, that is even if they had even been offered an interview in the 1st place.
Wellens was interviewed on Friday.
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I have no issue with this at all.
I'm pleased the people that matter have made their decision and know what's ahead.
Whether I find out today or Monday makes no difference whatsoever. I will sleep just as soundly either way.
If the new manager and newly appointed Talent ID manager get 3 days head start over the fans and media before being drawn into endless interviews, questions and speculation over the merit of the appointment, then so be it.
Chill out everyone!
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I’m going to be honest and say I find all this a bit nonsensical now. I’m not going out of my way looking to criticise the club, but why don’t they just announce it? A unanimous decision has been made, an agreement in place and nothing further to overcome by the looks of it. The hold up isn’t related to the appointment so why not just announce it and put all this nonsense to bed.
It’s our new manager, this matters to the fans. In a footballing sense it’s as big as it gets. So, having concluded a rigorous process during which everyone has been patient, why not just tell us who it is now so we can all start looking forward. Allowing an unnecessary weekend of speculation is really not helpful to anyone.
Maybe that person is in employment and that needs resolving
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It's clearly Wellens. We knew he was on the shortlist, his odds are now 1/6 and he's been liking tweets about him being offered the job this afternoon.
It's pretty laughable that the board are still holding off on announcing it at this point.
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All points taken on board, and I don’t expect everyone to agree.
To clarify again, this definitely wasn’t a dig at the updates we’ve had on here. Quite the opposite, we’d have been lost without them. I think the club get a hell of a lot of things right. But sometimes they don’t hit the right note, and on an issue as significant as this I can’t help but think they’re relying too heavily on a supporters representative to do their work for them.
Those that know me know that I’m not one of the serial moaners or one of the types that expects everything now. But when was the last time that the club released a statement on this important matter? Everyone has waited and waited, and we on here have been lucky enough to get an insight offered up regularly. But now the process has concluded I think the club should put an end to the speculation and make an official announcement as soon as they can.
Jonathan,
As the supporters trust has an MOU in place with the club they provide updates on all key issues. They have stood by that agreement ever since it was signed and agreed.
The signed MOU was something we asked for so that supporters can feel in the loop at all times. A lot of what we discuss and hear about never makes it to the forum, but we are consulted anyhow and offer our advice on a regular basis.
I think your suggestion that the club let a supporters rep do their work isn't correct. I don't feel as if I'm doing their work, in my opinion I'm doing the work of the VSC and hoping that all supporters feel connected. The MOU has been a major shift in relations with DRFC and something that the supporters movement has championed for a few years, but very few clubs actually put in place.
You may see it as we're doing the work of the club, but I don't, I see it as the club being as open and honest as they can be.
That’s fair enough, and I honestly hadn’t intended to start an argument here, or appear like I was critical of your update, which I wasn’t. It’s just a frustration, as a fan (and I’ll accept there’s an element of impatience / irrationality) as I want to know! And within the point I was trying to make there is a genuine sense that (sometimes and on some issues) it doesn’t feel like there’s a lot coming directly from the club. Somebody else alluded to it earlier in the week, that for all our gratitude for the financial outlay and the work of the owners and the CEO, it can feel a bit distant and there’s a notable vacuum from the position of chairman. Perhaps in a reactionary frustration it felt like the club don’t realise just how much (some of) the fans really want to know and are desperate for news, especially positive and impactful news like this. Not everyone agrees with me on this, that’s clear and that’s fine, but some do.
Anyhow, to reiterate my point, the updates we’ve had throughout the process, including today’s, have been appreciated. It has kept us updated and given an insight into the process.
It feels like perhaps we know (unofficially) who the new manager is now, and we await the official announcement on Monday.
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What if the new man is not one of the three touted on here? Just a thought.
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What if the new man is not one of the three touted on here? Just a thought.
I do wonder if SM sits giggling to himself at a lot of the things said on here in these situations.
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What if the new man is not one of the three touted on here? Just a thought.
I think that’s the root of what I was getting at really. If it’s not Wellens, then the club would be well served to nip the current level of speculation in the bud and say who it is now hat it’s agreed. They’re not in control of the betting markets I know, but they’ll see the level of expectation (positive and negative) out there and if it was all wide of the mark then I think it’d be in their interests to nip that in the bud from a PR perspective.
It looks like it is Wellens... in which case we just wait until they’re ready to tell us that.
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What if the new man is not one of the three touted on here? Just a thought.
I do wonder if SM sits giggling to himself at a lot of the things said on here in these situations.
He must do - I know I do. It's like watching a load of 5 year olds sometimes, bickering and name-calling and saying they're not gonna be the other one's friend.
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I’m sure there will be a report in Monday’s Doncaster Evening Post.
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As I've mentioned in the other thread, the club have made their choice of the new DRFC Manager and the applicant has been informed and is absolutely delighted to be joining us.
The announcement will be made officially on Monday.
Today, and this weekend, will see numerous meetings taking place, and the club wish to get those out of the way first.
The club are also delighted that their first choice has accepted the position and everybody is looking forward to starting work.
a”Their first choice” ? So what happened to the two who wanted to be considered but couldn’t get to the Keepmoat only to both change their minds .. why offer to hold over the interviews if your first choice is still in the running? . It’s Wellens then !!
Wrong end of the stick there I think. It wasn't the 2 who put off their interviews until the Monday who changed their minds I understood it to be 2 from the 1st earlier set of interviews who withdrew their applications prior to being interviewed, that is even if they had even been offered an interview in the 1st place.
Wellens was interviewed on Friday.
Lost me on that one. What has that got to do with the 2 withdrawing their application?
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I’m sure there will be a report in Monday’s Doncaster Evening Post.
Nope you’ll have to wait until Thursday when the Doncaster Gazette comes out
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What if the new man is not one of the three touted on here? Just a thought.
I think that’s the root of what I was getting at really. If it’s not Wellens, then the club would be well served to nip the current level of speculation in the bud and say who it is now hat it’s agreed. They’re not in control of the betting markets I know, but they’ll see the level of expectation (positive and negative) out there and if it was all wide of the mark then I think it’d be in their interests to nip that in the bud from a PR perspective.
It looks like it is Wellens... in which case we just wait until they’re ready to tell us that.
There's a lot that goes into these things, both the appointment and announcing it.
Contracts have to be negotiated, drafted and signed. Coaching staff have to be approached, the new manager has to get things in place to set up in his new role, and so on.
In terms of announcing, the club's media and marketing teams will have a lot of work to do to arrange it and communicate the news too.
Rovers can't just say "right we've picked this guy" and then tell the world. It's not that simple nor do they need to rush it when the season ended 5 days ago and there is an entire summer ahead. Just because some people have a bet on or are incessantly discussing it on the Internet as we are, that doesn't equate to a PR disaster that needs managing.
As for the club's communications with us as fans, Rovers are easily one of the top clubs in the country at keeping their supporters informed on the important matters at the club. They are open and transparent with the local press and speak regularly to the Supporter's Trust who in turn relay lots of very useful and pertinent information on the footballing side of things, which fans up and down the country at other clubs would absolutely love to have.
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If it wellens, then surely the opinion of the vsc and associated rovers fans, has been quite clearly been dismissed, if this has anything why SMis standing down I don’t know, but respect to the guy if it is....
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Where has the opinion of the VSC and associated Rovers fans been quite clearly dismissed?
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If it wellens, then surely the opinion of the vsc and associated rovers fans, has been quite clearly been dismissed, if this has anything why SMis standing down I don’t know, but respect to the guy if it is....
SM is standing down because he’s retiring from work and doesn’t wish to spend his retirement on football matters. He wants to be in the garden! ( not) Knowing Martin he will spend a large slice of his time abroad. End of!
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If it wellens, then surely the opinion of the vsc and associated rovers fans, has been quite clearly been dismissed, if this has anything why SMis standing down I don’t know, but respect to the guy if it is....
Plenty of posters on the vsc site are in favour of Wellens getting the job though.
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If it wellens, then surely the opinion of the vsc and associated rovers fans, has been quite clearly been dismissed, if this has anything why SMis standing down I don’t know, but respect to the guy if it is....
What a pillock you are, Gibson. The opinion of the VSC??? What is the opinion of the VSC? Martin isn't the VSC, he's the fan's representative, his opinion of Wellens is entirely his own business and I am certain when acting in his role as fan representative he he would not be so unethical as to offer his own opinion as if it were that of the VSC membership. And as for suggesting the dislike of Wellens is the collective opinion of the fans you really have stepped well over the line.
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Isn’t the vsc a supporters club????? If SM has serious concerns then surely then somethings not right??????????? Every other day your up SMs arse so make your mind up, more faces than Big Ben those complaining.... pathetic
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And what does it actually matter. For every person who has one opinion you'll find another with an alternate view.
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I generally find that when the board has something to say they put it out on DROS when they are ready to do so.
Clearly they are not yet ready to do so, and for whatever reason, that must be respected.
So some tolerance and respect is in order.
Enjoy the weekend.
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Isn’t the vsc a supporters club????? If SM has serious concerns then surely then somethings not right??????????? Every other day your up SMs arse so make your mind up, more faces than Big Ben those complaining.... pathetic
And you’re the guy who has stated that you don’t come on here insulting others.
Aren’t you???????????????????????????????
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Oh no I’ve just totally undermined my own argument....
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BCB I speak my mind just because I’m anti board doesn’t mean I’m right or wrong but when SM disagrees with something we don’t know then I’m sure it’s pretty bad mate
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Isn’t the vsc a supporters club????? If SM has serious concerns then surely then somethings not right??????????? Every other day your up SMs arse so make your mind up, more faces than Big Ben those complaining.... pathetic
Co-operative!
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Michael - of course you are entitled to your opinion as much as everyone else. In this case though I think you’re reading too much into what SM says or doesn’t say.
There is no conspiracy, only due process.
And that’s my opinion.
:)
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Vsc... for the idiots nit picking.... I don’t blame SM for spilling the beans and wouldn’t expect the bloke too, but for there to be a big no no from the ‘respected’ supporters club with a voice shows the board don’t give a f**k to the vsc
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Vsc... for the idiots nit picking.... I don’t blame SM for spilling the beans and wouldn’t expect the bloke too, but for there to be a big no no from the ‘respected’ supporters club with a voice shows the board don’t give a f**k to the vsc
Have you been drinking?
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What on earth are you blathering on about? Do you think that SM on behalf of supporters has told DRFC who they should or should not appoint? You've come out with some nonsense in the past but you've surpassed your usual stupidity on this one
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Sorry to hear you retiring Martin. You have been a great voice for us fans and most appreciate the work you do for DRFC and the FSF. We have been lucky to have you on the Vsc imo. Enjoy your retirement mate.
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Vsc... for the idiots nit picking.... I don’t blame SM for spilling the beans and wouldn’t expect the bloke too, but for there to be a big no no from the ‘respected’ supporters club with a voice shows the board don’t give a f**k to the vsc
You post absolute tripe and to be honest looking at the last one you should lay off whatever you are drinking/taking. The board listen to the VSC, it is a line of communication between the club and the fan base and has been done to death by sm. In respect to Martin (sm) I have the upmost respect for the man, he has done far more for the relationship between us as fans and the club than most know. I hope he gets the chance to relax and actually enjoy going to games in the future he more than deserves to, it’s a thankless task being on the VSC and when Martin leaves it will leave a big hole.
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It barely needs mentioning but Wellens won the VSC poll.
There haven't been many who are against this choice, admittedly he wasn't SMs first choice but to suggest Wellens is not the VSC favoured choice is silly.
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Raven you’re amongst probably another dozen on here who think you run drfc and everybody else is extinguished..... well I’m afraid billy big b*llocks your wrong..... All I’ve quoted is SM wasn’t happy with Wellens and that’s it.... obviously there’s more to it which I won’t find out but you might being so far up there arse...
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Jesus. Are pre frontal lobotomies back in fashion?
BobG
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Jesus. Are pre frontal lobotomies back in fashion?
BobG
Only in some cases!!
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Raven you’re amongst probably another dozen on here who think you run drfc and everybody else is extinguished..... well I’m afraid billy big b*llocks your wrong..... All I’ve quoted is SM wasn’t happy with Wellens and that’s it.... obviously there’s more to it which I won’t find out but you might being so far up there arse...
Please ring that number I gave you, I am very worried about you, you seem a very angry young man there is help out there
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Jesus. Are pre frontal lobotomies back in fashion?
BobG
Imagine what he was like before it!
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Martin, I hope you'll still be at the foodbank on match days with Jimmydee.
I enjoy our chats.
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https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-wellens-agrees-to-become-new-doncaster-rovers-manager/
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Yet another thread that go down the swanny
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Michael Gobshite. Meth is a bad thing.
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Raven you’re amongst probably another dozen on here who think you run drfc and everybody else is extinguished..... well I’m afraid billy big b*llocks your wrong..... All I’ve quoted is SM wasn’t happy with Wellens and that’s it.... obviously there’s more to it which I won’t find out but you might being so far up there arse...
Michael - I see you’re continuing your stated claim of never having insulted folks on this forum.
Keep up the good work.
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Why are people still responding to this clown, he’s just here to wind you up
Don’t let him
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Serious question do you have some form of medical problem Michael Gibson?
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The benefits of a social democratic society gone wrong. We in our fair town seem to have our share and some.
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Serious question do you have some form of medical problem Michael Gibson?
Yeah. He’s just a bellend
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I think Wellens is just what we need right now. I can't imagine he'll stand for it for very long if some players decide to slack off in games and let others do all the hard work.
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What a state of a post. You lot should be embarrassed about what absolute nonsense that's been written on here.
You should all go and eat some soap and write 100 lines saying
I will stop writing complete drivel on the vsc forum and think before typing anything at all
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Unless there are legal reasons with contracts, why has the manager announcement been delayed? It seems a long delay after a drawn out process for choosing a manager.
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Unless there are legal reasons with contracts, why has the manager announcement been delayed? It seems a long delay after a drawn out process for choosing a manager.
Simple really. If the club announce the appointment whilst details of the contract were still to be agreed they immediately hand all bargaining power to the appointee.
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I would imagine the appointee will want to go home for the weekend and spend some time with his family before packing a bag in readiness for a hectic week ahead, with many media commitments lined up and some work to get down to. Probably being booked into a hotel for the first week at least .
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Be careful guys there is a village around Doncaster missing it’s idiot
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Be careful guys there is a village around Doncaster missing it’s idiot.
I don’t think that his fellow villagers would miss him.
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What time is the announcement expected tomorrow?
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What time is the announcement expected tomorrow?
Would expect either 10 or 11 o’clock
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Unless there are legal reasons with contracts, why has the manager announcement been delayed? It seems a long delay after a drawn out process for choosing a manager.
What was “drawn out” about it? In my experience of recruitment, it was really very quick.