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Title: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 18, 2021, 03:51:10 am
The standard of the officials. Very poor. Tonight Cukar was tugged back time and time again, on one occasion it was so blatant that he was almost running on the spot. That I feel was a penalty at least. The amount that the ref let go for them but pulled up for us was fairly significant.

I know it’s an age old complaint, but it’s not any less frustrating!

The ref against Wednesday was appalling. Completely dominated by the crowd.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: One_Matty_Lucas on August 18, 2021, 09:14:15 am
I have noted in the three league games that we give away a lot of small fouls for pushes/physical challenges but get nothing when we are tackled.

Is it something we need to work on ? Bad luck ? Gamemanship ?
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: EasyforDennis on August 18, 2021, 09:32:26 am
Just crap referees.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: danumdon on August 18, 2021, 11:54:05 am
As a club for years we have always been behind the curve with the trying to influence the ref in his decision making, i've also noticed how we give away very many niggly fouls and get called for them, other teams seem to do this at will with no recall.

Its very frustrating for us as a footballing team to get dragged down by this but yet still get no protection from the officials, last nights game was horrendous for it, an early intervention from the ref may have curbed their game plan, everyone knows how these teams play, are we behind the times?

Some may say its bias from us for our team but it seems far stronger than this, we need to be much smarter in our play.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 18, 2021, 12:16:45 pm
regarding referees  in the Morecambe v Rotherham match

last night Referee:  David Webb booked the Morecambe goalkeeper for time wasting after 22 minutes with the score at 0-0 !!!!

22' Booking  Jökull Andrésson (Morecambe) is shown the yellow card.

If our stats man doesn't he ought  check out each referees interpretation of fouls etc so far

as Starmer would say about a trend developing .....

funny how these Lancashire "tin pot" teams Accrington Morecambe and of course Fleetwood  all play   time wasting niggling - break play  etc and all have the 12th man affect of the wind    disrupting things in the tin pot grounds . Apparently it badly affected the Rotherham match

maybe a gust of wind caused Pontus's misjudgement
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: the vicar on August 18, 2021, 02:38:02 pm
Well last night there keeper should have been sent off then as he was taking an age to get rid of the ball just walking around the area with it in his hands.  When they got a goal kick there central defender stop over the ball and the keeper with went for a drink or tied his laces
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: roversdude on August 18, 2021, 03:47:14 pm
Did you notice their players distract the ref so it took even longer for goal kicks etc.
Has the law on how long a keeper can have the ball been dropped btw serious question and not a moan
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: sf9944 on August 18, 2021, 03:57:22 pm
Interesting comment above about the wind last night. It was indeed very strong in the first half and it was right behind Accrington and right into the rovers fans faces. The wind really caught the shot that ended up going in. It was really travelling. Keeper still should have saved it though. What he should have done is knock it over the bar rather than try to catch it. Oh and Sod’s law the wind dropped considerably in the second half when it was behind us.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: EasyforDennis on August 18, 2021, 04:27:36 pm
Did you notice their players distract the ref so it took even longer for goal kicks etc.
Has the law on how long a keeper can have the ball been dropped btw serious question and not a moan

The  keeper falling on the floor trick was ridiculous last night. He really was taking the piss and the referee let him get away with all of it.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: the vicar on August 18, 2021, 04:44:57 pm
He let them get away with murder
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 18, 2021, 04:59:46 pm
The thing that really pisses me off is that EVERYONE can see what's going on, bar the officials. If you've played the game you know what goes on.

Perhaps it's time to have an ex-pro in the stand observing and communicating with the 4th official?
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: Bessie Red on August 18, 2021, 05:44:53 pm
Did you notice their players distract the ref so it took even longer for goal kicks etc.
Has the law on how long a keeper can have the ball been dropped btw serious question and not a moan

The  keeper falling on the floor trick was ridiculous last night. He really was taking the piss and the referee let him get away with all of it.
Did you notice their players distract the ref so it took even longer for goal kicks etc.
Has the law on how long a keeper can have the ball been dropped btw serious question and not a moan

The  keeper falling on the floor trick was ridiculous last night. He really was taking the piss and the referee let him get away with all of it.
Reminded me of Sulli in the last few mins of the play off final against the Scum!!
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: Campsall rover on August 18, 2021, 05:54:21 pm
The sooner we have a ‘stop the clock’ rule in Football the better.

How can it be acceptable that a 90 min match the ball is in play less than 60 mins.

It is farcical. Why are the powers that be living in some bygone era.
They do it in Rugby why not in Football?
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: Campsall rover on August 18, 2021, 05:58:54 pm
The thing that really pisses me off is that EVERYONE can see what's going on, bar the officials. If you've played the game you know what goes on.

Perhaps it's time to have an ex-pro in the stand observing and communicating with the 4th official?
Trouble is PDX is they are likely to be just as useless.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: eastender on August 18, 2021, 06:10:43 pm
The standard of the officials. Very poor. Tonight Cukar was tugged back time and time again, on one occasion it was so blatant that he was almost running on the spot. That I feel was a penalty at least. The amount that the ref let go for them but pulled up for us was fairly significant.



















I know it’s an age old complaint, but it’s not any less frustrating!

The ref against Wednesday was appalling. Completely dominated by the crowd.

In the second half ,Cukur after being fouled in the box and getting nothing, Bostock was gesticulating to him to go down.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: drfchound on August 18, 2021, 07:30:03 pm
The standard of the officials. Very poor. Tonight Cukar was tugged back time and time again, on one occasion it was so blatant that he was almost running on the spot. That I feel was a penalty at least. The amount that the ref let go for them but pulled up for us was fairly significant.



















I know it’s an age old complaint, but it’s not any less frustrating!

The ref against Wednesday was appalling. Completely dominated by the crowd.

In the second half ,Cukur after being fouled in the box and getting nothing, Bostock was gesticulating to him to go down.





Cuker did go down in the box in the first half when he was craftily pulled back.
He got nothing then either.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 18, 2021, 10:47:57 pm
Last night there was a stoppage from 87:30 to 90:00.

The ref played 5 mins injury time in total.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 18, 2021, 10:50:30 pm
And yes, that pull on Cukur was a stonewall penalty.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: PDX_Rover on August 19, 2021, 12:48:50 am
And yes, that pull on Cukur was a stonewall penalty.

It was. Absolutely.

You do wonder what the officials see (or don’t). Are they incompetent, bent, or what? I mean, that pull was so obvious that I expected him to blow.

It’s galling. I wonder what would happen if a manager took a stand and withdrew the team from the field of play.

Actually, I don’t wonder. The points would be forfeit and the club would receive a severe punishment.

I wonder what would happen if the LMA and PFA had a coordinated campaign to demand improvements in the officiating. Are officials full time now?
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: One_Matty_Lucas on August 19, 2021, 08:22:55 am
In the second half ,Cukur after being fouled in the box and getting nothing, Bostock was gesticulating to him to go down.

I saw that, was wondering if anyone else did.
You think he was saying to go down ? That's what I was thinking but wasn't sure.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: drfchound on August 19, 2021, 09:09:03 am
We have even worse to come (probably) with the clown Prince of referees in charge on Saturday.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: DMnumber4 on August 19, 2021, 10:34:57 am
Strange how our club bias distorts the memory. People have conveniently overlooked Gardner's cheap shot on their 'keeper who had the ball in both hands when on the floor. Easily a booking at least.

If all refs are rubbish then perhaps it's time to look closer to home for our shortcomings...?
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: roversdude on August 19, 2021, 10:35:52 am
Bugger it’s Carl Boyeson
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: roversdude on August 19, 2021, 10:37:43 am
Strange how our club bias distorts the memory. People have conveniently overlooked Gardner's cheap shot on their 'keeper who had the ball in both hands when on the floor. Easily a booking at least.

If all refs are rubbish then perhaps it's time to look closer to home for our shortcomings...?

Not bias just comment on how rubbish refs have been, your comment adds weight to the argument
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: danumdon on August 19, 2021, 01:47:16 pm
Strange how our club bias distorts the memory. People have conveniently overlooked Gardner's cheap shot on their 'keeper who had the ball in both hands when on the floor. Easily a booking at least.

If all refs are rubbish then perhaps it's time to look closer to home for our shortcomings...?

Not bias just comment on how rubbish refs have been, your comment adds weight to the argument

Correct, most on here would just be happy with some consistency from the officials, others have been booked for less than the Gardner incident even if it did look more clumsy than malicious.

It was pretty obvious how both teams had squared up to play that game, Rovers attempted to play some football, Accrington went about their usual push,bully,frustrate and fall over when touched, it worked for them but you would like to think the officials would want a fair game of football not an inferior version of rugby.

The fact that the ref booked three of their players tell me he knew it was happening but didn't have the b*llocks to put a proper stop to it so everyone can actually watch a game of football.

Happens all the time in this league, christ knows how bad it's now in the lower leagues.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: drfchound on August 19, 2021, 02:00:07 pm
Gardner was clumsy with that challenge, nothing malicious at all.
Title: Re: One consistent trend this season..
Post by: Campsall rover on August 19, 2021, 03:07:02 pm
Strange how our club bias distorts the memory. People have conveniently overlooked Gardner's cheap shot on their 'keeper who had the ball in both hands when on the floor. Easily a booking at least.

If all refs are rubbish then perhaps it's time to look closer to home for our shortcomings...?

Not bias just comment on how rubbish refs have been, your comment adds weight to the argument

Correct, most on here would just be happy with some consistency from the officials, others have been booked for less than the Gardner incident even if it did look more clumsy than malicious.

It was pretty obvious how both teams had squared up to play that game, Rovers attempted to play some football, Accrington went about their usual push,bully,frustrate and fall over when touched, it worked for them but you would like to think the officials would want a fair game of football not an inferior version of rugby.

The fact that the ref booked three of their players tell me he knew it was happening but didn't have the b*llocks to put a proper stop to it so everyone can actually watch a game of football.

Happens all the time in this league, christ knows how bad it's now in the lower leagues.
Having watched Harrogate 3/4 times a season when they were National League North and National League,
from what I saw I would say the refereeing at League 1 level has been worse. Considerably so in some of our games..