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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: KeithMyath on October 13, 2021, 09:04:14 am
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I work in the water industry, and unfortunately along with energy it’s another dire situation. We had a conference yesterday about the depletion of water in the uk, by and large 40% of the uk will have its taps run dry in the next 20 years. I find this fact shocking, 8 years ago it was 18% in the next 30 years. Climate change is the significant factor, and water treatment infrastructure being non existent a close second. We now need to invest in desalination plants (sea water treatment in effect) but these are expensive and power hungry.
So what will be the outcome.
Increased bills to the factor of 50 to 60% in the next 5 years, and even that won’t be enough.
Reduced water quality (this is already happening) the current government are actually promoting this.
Water companies going bust.
Water intensive Industries going under or being forced to close.
Increase in prices to pass onto their customers
Its all looking a bit grim in post Brexit/Covid Britain.
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Was that a government leak?
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Sounds like more inaccurate modelling to me. Maybe Neill Ferguson advises the water boards too?
So, just under half the country will not have running water by 2041?
I don't buy it at all, although i do not want to be proved wrong obviously.
I do agree with massive increase in bills though. That would happen regardless.
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Why don't they just dilute it?
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I'm not sure why you added the last line about Brexit/Covid there Kieth. It not raining enough has nothing to do with Brexit and Covid.
The lack of rain is causing a significant problem in Scandinavia too, where the damns aren't filling up enough to provide enough hydroelectric power.
This feeds back into the energy crunch. Sadly, the UK is wanting to buy electricity from Norway but that's not going to be cheap.
Climate change is the problem here, same with the lack of wind.
To a lesser extent it's the lack of investment in infrastructure by the government. That is also exasperating our gas situation as they have failed to invest in any reasonable amount of gas storage. Or in properly insulating homes.
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In defence of Keith, HD.
''Its all looking a bit grim in post Brexit/Covid Britain''
appears not to be blaming brexit for the water shortage but an observation about the current situation.
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Why don't they just dilute it?
Ha ha. Two quality posts back to back. Well done. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cheers AL, I'm in full flow today.
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Cheers AL, I'm in full flow today.
You missed your vocation BB
Well maybe not actually. :facepalm: :)
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I work in the water industry, and unfortunately along with energy it’s another dire situation. We had a conference yesterday about the depletion of water in the uk, by and large 40% of the uk will have its taps run dry in the next 20 years. I find this fact shocking, 8 years ago it was 18% in the next 30 years. Climate change is the significant factor, and water treatment infrastructure being non existent a close second. We now need to invest in desalination plants (sea water treatment in effect) but these are expensive and power hungry.
So what will be the outcome.
Increased bills to the factor of 50 to 60% in the next 5 years, and even that won’t be enough.
Reduced water quality (this is already happening) the current government are actually promoting this.
Water companies going bust.
Water intensive Industries going under or being forced to close.
Increase in prices to pass onto their customers
Its all looking a bit grim in post Brexit/Covid Britain.
I could bore holes in that statement
seriously are desalination plants viable
AND !! when i first heard about the idea of towing icebergs years ago i thought it was a joke
but not so
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/08/the-many-failures-and-few-successes-of-zany-iceberg-towing-schemes/243364/
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Sounds like more inaccurate modelling to me. Maybe Neill Ferguson advises the water boards too?
So, just under half the country will not have running water by 2041?
I don't buy it at all, although i do not want to be proved wrong obviously.
I do agree with massive increase in bills though. That would happen regardless.
We’re talking local stores of water that are highly susceptible to increasingly dry summers. Based on a mean of expected temperature rises over the next 20 years, every report undertaken on this even far back as the late 90’s always said by 2050 that we would be facing significant shortages of water supply. Factor in the climate issues excrlerating and it’s not exactly that shocking that those predictions have been revised down again, some 25 years on.
Will those areas (geographical) not by population for context have no water? Of course not but they will then rely on other areas to take up the slack. We have very few provisions for storing rain water in winter to use in summer and there is no plan to change that. Those other areas will soon themselves run out of water.
It seems proposterous to think we could run out of water in our lifetime, but if people stick there head in the sand. Who will care enough to do anything about it?
This needs to be a plan and it needs to come come from the government.
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In defence of Keith, HD.
''Its all looking a bit grim in post Brexit/Covid Britain''
appears not to be blaming brexit for the water shortage but an observation about the current situation.
That was my intention, not relating Brexit/Covid to the issues in the water industry It’s a turd for everyone to flush that, no matter what business your in.
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Cyprus has no natural water supply. Every drop on the island comes from de salinisation. And it’s bloody expensive.
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I was going to post about desalination NR.
Even if it is expensive it surely should be an option if not enough rainwater can be harvested.
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There are already many parts of the world where drinking water is a valuable commodity.
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I work in the water industry, and unfortunately along with energy it’s another dire situation. We had a conference yesterday about the depletion of water in the uk, by and large 40% of the uk will have its taps run dry in the next 20 years. I find this fact shocking, 8 years ago it was 18% in the next 30 years. Climate change is the significant factor, and water treatment infrastructure being non existent a close second. We now need to invest in desalination plants (sea water treatment in effect) but these are expensive and power hungry.
So what will be the outcome.
Increased bills to the factor of 50 to 60% in the next 5 years, and even that won’t be enough.
Reduced water quality (this is already happening) the current government are actually promoting this.
Water companies going bust.
Water intensive Industries going under or being forced to close.
Increase in prices to pass onto their customers
Its all looking a bit grim in post Brexit/Covid Britain.
I could bore holes in that statement
seriously are desalination plants viable
AND !! when i first heard about the idea of towing icebergs years ago i thought it was a joke
but not so
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/08/the-many-failures-and-few-successes-of-zany-iceberg-towing-schemes/243364/
Sydney Desalination Plant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Desalination_Plant
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We’re talking local stores of water that are highly susceptible to increasingly dry summers. Based on a mean of expected temperature rises over the next 20 years, every report undertaken on this even far back as the late 90’s always said by 2050 that we would be facing significant shortages of water supply. Factor in the climate issues excrlerating and it’s not exactly that shocking that those predictions have been revised down again, some 25 years on.
Will those areas (geographical) not by population for context have no water? Of course not but they will then rely on other areas to take up the slack. We have very few provisions for storing rain water in winter to use in summer and there is no plan to change that. Those other areas will soon themselves run out of water.
So Keith, is there a need for more storage facilities/reservoirs etc.... and should we be collecting more rain water when there are downpours?
Also - I thought that aquacaps were going to be the next thing to be use to avoid evaporation in reservoirs etc - are they not viable for the UK?
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There's no shortage of rainwater in this country as the last twenty years of unprecedented flooding has shown, only the lack of infrastructure to capture and store the stuff.
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Nationalise the greedy f*cking water industry.
That would be a good start.
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Cyprus has no natural water supply. Every drop on the island comes from de salinisation. And it’s bloody expensive.
I seem to ecall all of the rivers were dammed and that was for the run off on the Trudos
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There are already many parts of the world where drinking water is a valuable commodity.
The Ethiopians are Daming the upper White Nile and boy is that naffing off Egypt, the French merrily selling their Fighter Jets to Egypt which doesn't bode well.
Apparently most of Kosovo's Drinking water comes from a Dam and reservoir in Serbia. That should calm em down!
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It looks like we're gonna have to drink Beer instead.
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So Keith, is there a need for more storage facilities/reservoirs etc.... and should we be collecting more rain water when there are downpours?
Also - I thought that aquacaps were going to be the next thing to be use to avoid evaporation in reservoirs etc - are they not viable for the UK?
MM there’s all sorts of media that can be applied to stop evaporation in vast water bodies. I will admit reservoirs aren’t not my area, I only know we either draw from or overflow into reservoirs where there are any. Most water treatment overflows end up in rivers, clean water that is. Yes we need more water storage, dams and reservoirs especially in the south east. They will start to see some shortages in the next 10 years. There is no world governing body when it comes to water, it’s all managed at local levels, hence no joined up thinking. Firstly we need to fix the infrastructure, leaks etc. Then we need to overhaul our treatment plants for the 21st century. Then need to build more water storage facilities. During all this we need to use technology more in agriculture and industry to reduce water consumption as currently its a cheap commodity and is used in excess. Industry and agriculture uses some 75% of water in the uk.
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Gosh just recalled my Geography teacher talking about Daming the Dee Estuary and that was in 1973!
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England better start being nicer to Scotland and Wales, where it generally rains more and has much more storage capacity.
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It looks like we're gonna have to drink Beer instead.
Amazing to think, before the Elizabeathan era one of the safest things you could drink was beer.
you had a whole youthful population drinking beer all the time. Just imagine.
No wonder coffee had such a transformative effect.
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It looks like we're gonna have to drink Beer instead.
Amazing to think, before the Elizabeathan era one of the safest things you could drink was beer.
you had a whole youthful population drinking beer all the time. Just imagine.
No wonder coffee had such a transformative effect.
Yes but it was less than 2% abv
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I read a couple of years ago that the Water companies were losing 25% of their water due to poor Water pipe systems.
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England better start being nicer to Scotland and Wales, where it generally rains more and has much more storage capacity.
Birmingham has got its water from Wales for over 100 years
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Interesting fact, perfectly good tap water available in UK 2.54 billion litres of bottled water is sold.
If that money was spent on nationalising and fixing up the industry following the carpetbagging by private industry ................
Read some of this, it's a bit Alice
https://www.water.org.uk/
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We have desalination here in Saudi. We have 2 taps in the kitchen one for sweet water drinking & cooking quality (desalinated) rest of house is a lesser processed non potable water. System works fine once your used to it.
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''The Yorkshire MPs who are happy to allow untreated sewage in Britain’s waters''
''MPs vote not to stop the discharge of untreated sewage to Britain’s coastal waters''
Fancy a dip?
https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/environment/the-yorkshire-mps-who-are-happy-to-allow-untreated-sewage-in-britains-waters/
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''The Yorkshire MPs who are happy to allow untreated sewage in Britain’s waters''
''MPs vote not to stop the discharge of untreated sewage to Britain’s coastal waters''
Fancy a dip?
https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/environment/the-yorkshire-mps-who-are-happy-to-allow-untreated-sewage-in-britains-waters/
Nick Fletcher towing the party line as usual, what were Don Valley voters thinking?
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''The Yorkshire MPs who are happy to allow untreated sewage in Britain’s waters''
''MPs vote not to stop the discharge of untreated sewage to Britain’s coastal waters''
Fancy a dip?
https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/environment/the-yorkshire-mps-who-are-happy-to-allow-untreated-sewage-in-britains-waters/
Nick Fletcher towing the party line as usual, what were Don Valley voters thinking?
Oh I do like to be beside the seaside ......................
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Always makes me wonder when beaches on the east coast get blue flag status when I consider all the literal shit we pump into them.
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Always makes me wonder when beaches on the east coast get blue flag status when I consider all the literal shit we pump into them.
The entirety of Cornwall and Devon’s coast is on high alert for sewage around the coastline. Just in time for holidaymakers down for half term. I picked up a nasty ear infection this time last year from sewage surfing, so always wear ear plugs now, but not ideal.
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Maybe there should be two flags, a blue and a brown one?
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So if there's a water shortage, why are they pumping shit into the water we do have?
Feels like we're under attack on so many levels this last couple of years.
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Sewage has been pumped into rivers and the sea for donkeys years.
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Led by donkeys
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So if there's a water shortage, why are they pumping shit into the water we do have?
Feels like we're under attack on so many levels this last couple of years.
Maybe donkeys would be a better choice.
''Macquarie Asset Management agrees to acquire majority stake in Southern Water''
''Macquarie wades back into UK with majority stake in Southern Water
Australian investment bank left Thames Water saddled with debt when it sold up in 2017
''Sewage discharge rules eased over fears of chemical shortage
Wastewater plants in England offered waiver because of impact of lorry driver crisis
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/aug/09/macquarie-wades-back-into-uk-with-majority-stake-in-southern-water
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/07/government-ease-sewage-discharge-rules-amid-chemical-shortage
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UK water and sewerage privatised in 1989
Estimated £57Bn paid in dividends 1989-2020
Estimated between £150-£650Bn is needed to upgrade the system.
Sewage discharged into rivers for more than 3,000,000 hours
Leave it for the next generation.
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''Thirty years on, what has water privatisation achieved?
This summer marks the 30th anniversary of the 1989 Water Act which privatised water in England and Wales, selling it to private water and waste water firms for £7.6 billion. The Environment asked supporters and opponents how they rate the sell-off’s outcomes''
An interesting view of the problems from all sides discussing what the problems were before privatisation, to dividends paid by debt to maybe a suggestion that EU regulations pushed the decision to privatise? and increase drinking water quality and much more.
''However the UK was becoming subject to European directives, including the 1998 Drinking Water Directive and the Urban Wastewater Treatment Directive, compliance with which would be mandatory''
https://www.ciwem.org/the-environment/how-should-water-and-environmental-management-firms-tap,-retain-and-promote-female-talent
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
Which has no relevance to the pumping of raw sewage into our rivers
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
Which has no relevance to the pumping of raw sewage into our rivers
And calling him an arse licker has relevance?
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
Which has no relevance to the pumping of raw sewage into our rivers
And calling him an arse licker has relevance?
Yes it does, you’ll not agree without a doubt, but Nick Fletcher towed the party line in that vote rather than put the interests of his constituents first and voted in effect to pollute the River Don, do you agree with pumping raw sewage into our Rivers?
So by definition he is an arse licker to his superiors, someone that can’t make his own mind up
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
Which has no relevance to the pumping of raw sewage into our rivers
And calling him an arse licker has relevance?
Yes it does, you’ll not agree without a doubt, but Nick Fletcher towed the party line in that vote rather than put the interests of his constituents first and voted in effect to pollute the River Don, do you agree with pumping raw sewage into our Rivers?
So by definition he is an arse licker to his superiors, someone that can’t make his own mind up
So following that logic there are dozens of MPs of all Party’s who are arse lickers.
I wonder if you would say the same thing if one of your lot voted on something you didn’t like.
To answer your question, no I don’t approve of pumping sewage into rivers but I don’t know why they do it either.
I also don’t know what, if any, alternatives there are.
I heard a snippet on a news article a couple of days ago which reported that over population had caused our sewage systems to become overloaded and the release of effluent had become inevitable.
Disposal of other things that shouldn’t be put into the system, like fats and wet wipes etc had further damaged the system.
I have no idea whether that is true.
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
Which has no relevance to the pumping of raw sewage into our rivers
And calling him an arse licker has relevance?
Yes it does, you’ll not agree without a doubt, but Nick Fletcher towed the party line in that vote rather than put the interests of his constituents first and voted in effect to pollute the River Don, do you agree with pumping raw sewage into our Rivers?
So by definition he is an arse licker to his superiors, someone that can’t make his own mind up
So following that logic there are dozens of MPs of all Party’s who are arse lickers.
I wonder if you would say the same thing if one of your lot voted on something you didn’t like.
To answer your question, no I don’t approve of pumping sewage into rivers but I don’t know why they do it either.
I also don’t know what, if any, alternatives there are.
I heard a snippet on a news article a couple of days ago which reported that over population had caused our sewage systems to become overloaded and the release of effluent had become inevitable.
Disposal of other things that shouldn’t be put into the system, like fats and wet wipes etc had further damaged the system.
I have no idea whether that is true.
I’m against the whip system being used from all sides of the house, MP’s are elected to represent their constituents views, that is my opinion, and in my opinion that is how democracy should work
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
Which has no relevance to the pumping of raw sewage into our rivers
And calling him an arse licker has relevance?
Yes it does, you’ll not agree without a doubt, but Nick Fletcher towed the party line in that vote rather than put the interests of his constituents first and voted in effect to pollute the River Don, do you agree with pumping raw sewage into our Rivers?
So by definition he is an arse licker to his superiors, someone that can’t make his own mind up
So following that logic there are dozens of MPs of all Party’s who are arse lickers.
I wonder if you would say the same thing if one of your lot voted on something you didn’t like.
To answer your question, no I don’t approve of pumping sewage into rivers but I don’t know why they do it either.
I also don’t know what, if any, alternatives there are.
I heard a snippet on a news article a couple of days ago which reported that over population had caused our sewage systems to become overloaded and the release of effluent had become inevitable.
Disposal of other things that shouldn’t be put into the system, like fats and wet wipes etc had further damaged the system.
I have no idea whether that is true.
I’m against the whip system being used from all sides of the house, MP’s are elected to represent their constituents views, that is my opinion, and in my opinion that is how democracy should work
Why do you think that anyone would approve of releasing sewage into the seas or rivers.
Is there any truth in what I had heard reported.
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
Which has no relevance to the pumping of raw sewage into our rivers
And calling him an arse licker has relevance?
Yes it does, you’ll not agree without a doubt, but Nick Fletcher towed the party line in that vote rather than put the interests of his constituents first and voted in effect to pollute the River Don, do you agree with pumping raw sewage into our Rivers?
So by definition he is an arse licker to his superiors, someone that can’t make his own mind up
So following that logic there are dozens of MPs of all Party’s who are arse lickers.
I wonder if you would say the same thing if one of your lot voted on something you didn’t like.
To answer your question, no I don’t approve of pumping sewage into rivers but I don’t know why they do it either.
I also don’t know what, if any, alternatives there are.
I heard a snippet on a news article a couple of days ago which reported that over population had caused our sewage systems to become overloaded and the release of effluent had become inevitable.
Disposal of other things that shouldn’t be put into the system, like fats and wet wipes etc had further damaged the system.
I have no idea whether that is true.
I’m against the whip system being used from all sides of the house, MP’s are elected to represent their constituents views, that is my opinion, and in my opinion that is how democracy should work
Why do you think that anyone would approve of releasing sewage into the seas or rivers.
Is there any truth in what I had heard reported.
Two points
1) To show we are not complying with EU directives after Brexit
2) Bigger shareholder dividends because they don’t need to invest in upgrading treatment plants, which is why the water industry should be nationalised along with all the other utilities
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now its official
'Don't risk swimming in Britain's rivers':
Environment Agency boss issues astonishing warning amid outcry at raw sewage being dumped into water .
as for the Don
Years spent cleaning up the River Don - once named as one of the most polluted rivers in Europe - only for local Tory MP Miriam Cates
to vote in favour of allowing water companies from dumping raw sewage into the UK’s rivers.
@theriverstrust @YorksBylines @SheffieldFoE https://t.co/u9H4AXDKu0
And Don Valley Tory arse licker Nick Fletcher
…..who actually won a democratic election.
Which has no relevance to the pumping of raw sewage into our rivers
And calling him an arse licker has relevance?
Yes it does, you’ll not agree without a doubt, but Nick Fletcher towed the party line in that vote rather than put the interests of his constituents first and voted in effect to pollute the River Don, do you agree with pumping raw sewage into our Rivers?
So by definition he is an arse licker to his superiors, someone that can’t make his own mind up
So following that logic there are dozens of MPs of all Party’s who are arse lickers.
I wonder if you would say the same thing if one of your lot voted on something you didn’t like.
To answer your question, no I don’t approve of pumping sewage into rivers but I don’t know why they do it either.
I also don’t know what, if any, alternatives there are.
I heard a snippet on a news article a couple of days ago which reported that over population had caused our sewage systems to become overloaded and the release of effluent had become inevitable.
Disposal of other things that shouldn’t be put into the system, like fats and wet wipes etc had further damaged the system.
I have no idea whether that is true.
I’m against the whip system being used from all sides of the house, MP’s are elected to represent their constituents views, that is my opinion, and in my opinion that is how democracy should work
Why do you think that anyone would approve of releasing sewage into the seas or rivers.
Is there any truth in what I had heard reported.
Two points
1) To show we are not complying with EU directives after Brexit
2) Bigger shareholder dividends because they don’t need to invest in upgrading treatment plants, which is why the water industry should be nationalised along with all the other utilities
Yeah, I heard both of those mentioned in the tv report.
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''Water Companies have Paid Nearly Half a Billion in Fines for a Decade of Violations''
Sian Norris, Byline Times, 26 October 2021.
Not a bad effort by any means.
https://bylinetimes.com/2021/10/26/water-companies-have-paid-nearly-half-a-billion-in-fines-for-a-decade-of-violations/