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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: wilts rover on November 08, 2021, 01:09:39 pm
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Bring back scurvy:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/return-scurvy-under-tory-rule-25396035?1=
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Bring back scurvy:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/return-scurvy-under-tory-rule-25396035?1=
How many people don't or won't eat fresh fruit and veg or cook their own meals? We fill up at the green grocers every week and prep our own meals. It's not difficult or expensive.
I'm not taking political sides on this one, i'm just saying what i see. I'll bet many of these people are happy to stick a Big Mac or some such down their throats but won't touch greens?
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Too many parents treating their kids to Mac Donald’s et al every weekend instead of getting down the fruit isle.
Uber eats.
Microwave meals.
Just eat
Every high st full of fast food outlets.
Junk food.
Feck all to do with politics.
A lot of kids don’t eat fruit or veg these days. And adults for that matter.
Sign of the times I’m afraid.
Fruit and veg are not for the rich. It’s cheap and readily available.
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Too many parents treating their kids to Mac Donald’s et al every weekend instead of getting down the fruit isle.
Uber eats.
Microwave meals.
Just eat
Every high st full of fast food outlets.
Junk food.
Feck all to do with politics.
A lot of kids don’t eat fruit or veg these days. And adults for that matter.
Sign of the times I’m afraid.
Fruit and veg are not for the rich. It’s cheap and readily available.
Bang on mate.
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It is also far healthier than processed fast food garbage.
Fresh veg and a chicken will be cheaper that a large pizza and will feed a family of four.
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By God, you don't half hear about some shit in that shit rag. And people believe it!
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I’ve first hand experience every of this. Whilst they are only one family, who will remain nameless, I know for a fact their kids don’t eat fruit or veg. Don’t know what it is to drink fresh orange juice. Why? Because their parents just don’t see it. They think they are doing well by their kids by giving them processed food every night. I also know their income will be well below National average.
New York pizzas.
Chicken nuggets
Microwave burgers.
Blue charge energy drinks
Chocolate
Take aways.
Sugar loaded stuff.
These things are not cheap compared to fresh produce.
I see it all the time in the local Asda.
Trolley fulls of processed food and tinned shit.
No fruit or veg.
And it’s not that they cannot afford it . They just choose not to eat fresh food fruit and veg.
The kids all have new iPhones. Latest consoles etc. Sit on their arses doing no exercise . Because that’s how their parents live. They know no different.
The country is full of such families .
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Most kids now haven’t got a clue how to prepare and cook fresh food.
It’s easier to open a packet or tin.
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By God, you don't half hear about some shit in that shit rag. And people believe it!
I think you're still struggling with this idea of how to differentiate between press stories that can and cannot be trusted. What, specifically, is "shit" about an article that directly and accurately quotes data from an NHS database?
As for the others giving their two pennorth on why it's all down to feckless f**kers, if that's the case, I wonder why we have so many more feckless f**kers than we did before the Tories were in power? Thoughts anyone?
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Yet all the boat people strive to get to this place of milk and honey in their droves!
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Scurvy of course is a disease of poverty. Of Austerity.
According to NHS digital statistics, hospital admissions for malnutrition have tripled since 2010. The increase coincides with soaring numbers of people relying on food banks. In 2010, 61,000 people needed food handouts but a decade on this figure now stands at 2.5 million.
https://twitter.com/Taj_Ali1/status/1457668253568880647
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Yet all the boat people strive to get to this place of milk and honey in their droves!
Maybe they're needed to take the place of the 50,000 + that died directly due to Austerity, the tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths because of mangled response to covid and of course those that just left because of brexit.
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Bring back scurvy:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/return-scurvy-under-tory-rule-25396035?1=
How many people don't or won't eat fresh fruit and veg or cook their own meals? We fill up at the green grocers every week and prep our own meals. It's not difficult or expensive.
I'm not taking political sides on this one, i'm just saying what i see. I'll bet many of these people are happy to stick a Big Mac or some such down their throats but won't touch greens?
I don't disagree Axholme. But kids nowadays don't get half the education about eating properly or how to cook a proper meal that they used to. Plus adverts promoting sh**e food seem to have gone into overdrive in recent years.
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Bring back scurvy:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/return-scurvy-under-tory-rule-25396035?1=
How many people don't or won't eat fresh fruit and veg or cook their own meals? We fill up at the green grocers every week and prep our own meals. It's not difficult or expensive.
I'm not taking political sides on this one, i'm just saying what i see. I'll bet many of these people are happy to stick a Big Mac or some such down their throats but won't touch greens?
I don't disagree Axholme. But kids nowadays don't get half the education about eating properly or how to cook a proper meal that they used to. Plus adverts promoting sh**e food seem to have gone into overdrive in recent years.
This is true. Everytime you turn on the wireless it's McDonalds or Just eat on the telly.
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By God, you don't half hear about some shit in that shit rag. And people believe it!
I think you're still struggling with this idea of how to differentiate between press stories that can and cannot be trusted. What, specifically, is "shit" about an article that directly and accurately quotes data from an NHS database?
As for the others giving their two pennorth on why it's all down to feckless f**kers, if that's the case, I wonder why we have so many more feckless f**kers than we did before the Tories were in power? Thoughts anyone?
Because they are breeding out of control. When i was growing up in the seventies there were always a few of these families around but it feels like they're taking over. I honestly don't believe you an blame the tories for it. We didn't have much money when i was a kid and it felt like many of the kids at school had posh houses and dads drove flash cars, whereas we were in a council house and dad had a second hand Marina, however it didn't stop me being tought honesty, the value of hard work and how to look after yourself, be it having a decent diet or saving your money to pay your own way. I don't think that's the case with many now.
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This is true. Everytime you turn on the wireless it's McDonalds or Just eat on the telly.
The wireless made me smile...... :lol: - although you are totally right......
Thing is people have got lazy - and laziness is expensive. If people were able to prepare simple food themselves they would save a fortune.
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By God, you don't half hear about some shit in that shit rag. And people believe it!
I think you're still struggling with this idea of how to differentiate between press stories that can and cannot be trusted. What, specifically, is "shit" about an article that directly and accurately quotes data from an NHS database?
As for the others giving their two pennorth on why it's all down to feckless f**kers, if that's the case, I wonder why we have so many more feckless f**kers than we did before the Tories were in power? Thoughts anyone?
Because they are breeding out of control. When i was growing up in the seventies there were always a few of these families around but it feels like they're taking over. I honestly don't believe you an blame the tories for it. We didn't have much money when i was a kid and it felt like many of the kids at school had posh houses and dads drove flash cars, whereas we were in a council house and dad had a second hand Marina, however it didn't stop me being tought honesty, the value of hard work and how to look after yourself, be it having a decent diet or saving your money to pay your own way. I don't think that's the case with many now.
This is true. Everytime you turn on the wireless it's McDonalds or Just eat on the telly.
The wireless made me smile...... :lol: - although you are totally right......
Thing is people have got lazy - and laziness is expensive. If people were able to prepare simple food themselves they would save a fortune.
I agree with these two posts.
Too many modern day young parents survive on loads of fast food, ready meals etc.
This has been going on for more than the last dozen years.
Still, some people on here find reasons from that to bash the government as if it is a new phenomenon.
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By God, you don't half hear about some shit in that shit rag. And people believe it!
I think you're still struggling with this idea of how to differentiate between press stories that can and cannot be trusted. What, specifically, is "shit" about an article that directly and accurately quotes data from an NHS database?
As for the others giving their two pennorth on why it's all down to feckless f**kers, if that's the case, I wonder why we have so many more feckless f**kers than we did before the Tories were in power? Thoughts anyone?
Because they are breeding out of control. When i was growing up in the seventies there were always a few of these families around but it feels like they're taking over. I honestly don't believe you an blame the tories for it. We didn't have much money when i was a kid and it felt like many of the kids at school had posh houses and dads drove flash cars, whereas we were in a council house and dad had a second hand Marina, however it didn't stop me being tought honesty, the value of hard work and how to look after yourself, be it having a decent diet or saving your money to pay your own way. I don't think that's the case with many now.
This is true. Everytime you turn on the wireless it's McDonalds or Just eat on the telly.
The wireless made me smile...... :lol: - although you are totally right......
Thing is people have got lazy - and laziness is expensive. If people were able to prepare simple food themselves they would save a fortune.
I agree with these two posts.
Too many modern day young parents survive on loads of fast food, ready meals etc.
This has been going on for more than the last dozen years.
Still, some people on here find reasons from that to bash the government as if it is a new phenomenon.
These people have been adopted by the Tory bashers in a pretence of sympathy when in truth it is just another pseudo route for Tory bashing.
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I don't think it's a political thing. There have always been people like this, it's just that there's more of them now, but then again there are more of everyone.
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By God, you don't half hear about some shit in that shit rag. And people believe it!
I think you're still struggling with this idea of how to differentiate between press stories that can and cannot be trusted. What, specifically, is "shit" about an article that directly and accurately quotes data from an NHS database?
As for the others giving their two pennorth on why it's all down to feckless f**kers, if that's the case, I wonder why we have so many more feckless f**kers than we did before the Tories were in power? Thoughts anyone?
Because they are breeding out of control. When i was growing up in the seventies there were always a few of these families around but it feels like they're taking over. I honestly don't believe you an blame the tories for it. We didn't have much money when i was a kid and it felt like many of the kids at school had posh houses and dads drove flash cars, whereas we were in a council house and dad had a second hand Marina, however it didn't stop me being tought honesty, the value of hard work and how to look after yourself, be it having a decent diet or saving your money to pay your own way. I don't think that's the case with many now.
This is true. Everytime you turn on the wireless it's McDonalds or Just eat on the telly.
The wireless made me smile...... :lol: - although you are totally right......
Thing is people have got lazy - and laziness is expensive. If people were able to prepare simple food themselves they would save a fortune.
I agree with these two posts.
Too many modern day young parents survive on loads of fast food, ready meals etc.
This has been going on for more than the last dozen years.
Still, some people on here find reasons from that to bash the government as if it is a new phenomenon.
These people have been adopted by the Tory bashers in a pretence of sympathy when in truth it is just another pseudo route for Tory bashing.
You both seem to be struggling with the core fact in the OP. That scurvy and malnutrition have both massively increased under the Tories. Not that they never existed before.
Do you reckon there has been a doubling of the number of feckless f**kers under the Tory rule?
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I think they have been breeding out of control for twenty years or more. We're three generations in now.
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By God, you don't half hear about some shit in that shit rag. And people believe it!
I think you're still struggling with this idea of how to differentiate between press stories that can and cannot be trusted. What, specifically, is "shit" about an article that directly and accurately quotes data from an NHS database?
As for the others giving their two pennorth on why it's all down to feckless f**kers, if that's the case, I wonder why we have so many more feckless f**kers than we did before the Tories were in power? Thoughts anyone?
Because they are breeding out of control. When i was growing up in the seventies there were always a few of these families around but it feels like they're taking over. I honestly don't believe you an blame the tories for it. We didn't have much money when i was a kid and it felt like many of the kids at school had posh houses and dads drove flash cars, whereas we were in a council house and dad had a second hand Marina, however it didn't stop me being tought honesty, the value of hard work and how to look after yourself, be it having a decent diet or saving your money to pay your own way. I don't think that's the case with many now.
This is true. Everytime you turn on the wireless it's McDonalds or Just eat on the telly.
The wireless made me smile...... :lol: - although you are totally right......
Thing is people have got lazy - and laziness is expensive. If people were able to prepare simple food themselves they would save a fortune.
I agree with these two posts.
Too many modern day young parents survive on loads of fast food, ready meals etc.
This has been going on for more than the last dozen years.
Still, some people on here find reasons from that to bash the government as if it is a new phenomenon.
These people have been adopted by the Tory bashers in a pretence of sympathy when in truth it is just another pseudo route for Tory bashing.
You both seem to be struggling with the core fact in the OP. That scurvy and malnutrition have both massively increased under the Tories. Not that they never existed before.
Do you reckon there has been a doubling of the number of feckless f**kers under the Tory rule?
Yes scurvy has gone from 82 cases to 171, massive
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And malnutrition?
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You can have that one but you categorically stated both had increased massively. Liberal with the truth again?
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some interesting figures in here Ldr
https://globalnutritionreport.org/resources/nutrition-profiles/europe/northern-europe/united-kingdom-great-britain-and-northern-ireland/
It doesn't mention that an extremely rare condition scurvy has more than doubled though.
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I don’t dispute it Syd, see it in local figures here too let alone national figures. I was just pointing out a simple lie
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Just read an article about a man who has lived next to remote Scottish loch alone for 40 years. Surviving by foraging and fishing the loch. He's thin.
No fast food outlet or co op / convenience store in sight.
The easier the availability of food, the more will buy it. Which is why most people are obese.
Just been in my local town centre. Parked up and clocked a parking warden. He literally could barely walk he was that big.
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You can have that one but you categorically stated both had increased massively. Liberal with the truth again?
Doubling in a decade is a massive increase on what it was.
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I’m guessing you’re the sort of person then who would say the same about 2 to 4. It’s that sort of statement that loses the credibility of an otherwise valid point
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I am guessing that someone / somewhere gets a Takeaway every night ? Maybe someone on here
The takeaway delivery men are operating in droves at Macs, Chinese , Chippy, Pizzas and wherever else I see even Subway and Greggs
On Sunday on Twitter a girl posted at 11.30 am - anybody open for breakfast deliveries so Im guessing the answer to my question is YES
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I’m guessing you’re the sort of person then who would say the same about 2 to 4. It’s that sort of statement that loses the credibility of an otherwise valid point
It all depends what the thing is we are talking about.
If you are talking about pinpricks, an increase from 2 to 4 isn't very significant, even though it is a doubling. If you are talking about the number of bullets that someone fires roughly in your direction, and increase from 2 to 4 is massive.
In this case, we are talking about a disease that I personally thought was confined to the Dickensian past. So yes, a doubling in cases is, in my opinion, a massive increase. The fact that cases have doubled under the Tories seems to me to be emblematic of the way that our approach to the poorest in society has gone this last decade.
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I am guessing that someone / somewhere gets a Takeaway every night ? Maybe someone on here
The takeaway delivery men are operating in droves at Macs, Chinese , Chippy, Pizzas and wherever else I see even Subway and Greggs
On Sunday on Twitter a girl posted at 11.30 am - anybody open for breakfast deliveries so Im guessing the answer to my question is YES
Absolutely Wolfie and as has been said a few posts back, this is third generation stuff now.
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I don't think it's a political thing. There have always been people like this, it's just that there's more of them now, but then again there are more of everyone.
That is up there with the very best of Yogi Berra!
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I don't think it's a political thing. There have always been people like this, it's just that there's more of them now, but then again there are more of everyone.
That is up there with the very best of Yogi Berra!
Ha ha. :lol:
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On a stretch of road out of the town I live there is a McDonalds & a KFC next to one another.
I’ve passed during lunchtimes, teatimes & early evenings & you wouldn’t believe the number of vehicles queuing at each in order to ‘grab’ a takeaway. Goodness knows how many are seated inside but you’d think they were giving the crap away free.
Is it fair to say that a large majority of ‘young parents’ (or partners) these days with children wouldn’t know one end of a leek, broccoli or parsnip from another?
Does the term ‘processed food’ have any meaning for them?
Are their parents to blame for treading the same ‘easy path’.
I think children are getting more ‘savvy’ about eating more healthily through school, but when mum or dad say ‘C’mon, I’ll ‘treat’ you to a McDonald’s’ what’s the kid likely to say?
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And their grandparents I should think.
I remember being all the lads at school doing cooking classes, a good thing but it didn't last long.
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There is really no excuse for not home cooking though - regardless of your financial standing. There are enough recipes on line, You Tube videos, Bloggers etc etc that if you don't know how to do something the internet will assist you through it...
It doesn't have to be expensive either.... if you shop in the right places and pick your times there are loads of bargains to be had. I regularly pick up ingredients for our evening meal in the yellow sticker aisle on my way home from work - even though we don't (financially) need to. I can easily put together a substantial evening meal for two people for under 3-4 quid... and that will include vegetables, meat/fish and potatoes.
Yes - it takes a bit of effort and isn't as convenient as going to a chippy, drive-through or getting a takeaway, but it will be better for us and under half the price. Even when we do fancy fish and chips, I will make my own and oven cook them - again very easy to do, tasty and better for you...
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There are around 1.5m homes without the internet, I guess a few of them may be poor families?
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There are around 1.5m homes without the internet, I guess a few of them may be poor families?
I would also bet that a large chunk of that number are older folk who have no interest... However, that doesn't mean that they can't access the internet though.
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It doesn't help that secondary schools peddle donuts, giant cookies, sugary drinks etc through their canteens as a matter of course. This conditions kids from a very impressionable age.
Is it too obvious a step to ban this kind of cr*p from schools?
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There are around 1.5m homes without the internet, I guess a few of them may be poor families?
We have no internet at home.
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Jamie Oliver highlighted the problems when he did his show in Rotherham. There are people who don't know how to cook and eat a lot of junk food even when they can't really afford it.
Personally I think nutrition, health and practical cooking ought to be part of the school syllabus. A much bigger part than it is now. It is a skill for life and there are a lot of kids who aren't shown at home.
I know there are lots of other issues surrounding this but I do think if we were to teach kids more comprehensively about food it would make a big difference.
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It doesn't help that secondary schools peddle donuts, giant cookies, sugary drinks etc through their canteens as a matter of course. This conditions kids from a very impressionable age.
Is it too obvious a step to ban this kind of cr*p from schools?
When you look at how they do things in Italian schools, the difference is marked. But then that is a nation that really cares about food.
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It doesn't help that secondary schools peddle donuts, giant cookies, sugary drinks etc through their canteens as a matter of course. This conditions kids from a very impressionable age.
Is it too obvious a step to ban this kind of cr*p from schools?
Schools with budgets squeezed having to generate income by abandoning their primary role of developing and educating our children.
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There are around 1.5m homes without the internet, I guess a few of them may be poor families?
We have no internet at home.
proves my point then? :)
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It doesn't help that secondary schools peddle donuts, giant cookies, sugary drinks etc through their canteens as a matter of course. This conditions kids from a very impressionable age.
Is it too obvious a step to ban this kind of cr*p from schools?
Kids learn bad as well as good habits, it makes sense.