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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on November 24, 2021, 02:42:54 pm
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If anyone is still upset about black people campaigning for their lives to matter, here's two stories from both sides of the Atlantic today on how black people have been treated.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59396598
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59385477
For the most part, this doesn't happen to white people. reflect on it.
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:facepalm:
ALL lives matter. Apart from paedophiles, rapists etc. You get the general gist.
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
Who asked you to speak for them?
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:facepalm:
ALL lives matter. Apart from paedophiles, rapists etc. You get the general gist.
Point being, the Home Office doesn't seem to think that the lives of AfroCarribbean British people who were illegally deported, denied the right to work or had their lives turned upside down matter enough to prioritise sorting out the pile of shit that they threw over them.
I assume you've never woken up to an e-mail telling you that you need to prove that you have the right to remain in the UK, otherwise you're going to be forcibly deported to Austria?
Which is why the way that society treats black people needs to be particularly highlighted.
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I’m with Belton on this.
FWIIW I agree with the sentiment of bst’s post but not the way in which the OP is written.
Instead of wording it in a confrontational manner he could have just posted the content for us to read.
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I’m with Belton on this.
FWIIW I agree with the sentiment of bst’s post but not the way in which the OP is written.
Instead of wording it in a confrontational manner he could have just posted the content for us to read.
Who was BST being confrontational to in the OP?
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''Innocence''
''The death penalty carries the inherent risk of executing an innocent person. Since 1973, at least 186 people who had been wrongly convicted and sentenced to death in the U.S. have been exonerated''
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence
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I’m with Belton on this.
FWIIW I agree with the sentiment of bst’s post but not the way in which the OP is written.
Instead of wording it in a confrontational manner he could have just posted the content for us to read.
Who was BST being confrontational to in the OP?
Everyone who isn’t one of his sycophants, if you can read between the lines.
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
Who asked you to speak for them?
Who?
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Aboriginals lives matter
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The best bet would be every race just get along but it's not going to happen in this country while full estates are white black or Asian, each estate is like it's own town and integration will never happen
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Aboriginals lives matter
do you know what the word means Nudga? have a look
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
Who asked you to speak for them?
Who?
The 'we' who you think you're speaking on behalf of.
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Aboriginals lives matter
do you know what the word means Nudga? have a look
Yes I do.
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Aboriginals lives matter
do you know what the word means Nudga? have a look
Yes I do.
excellent, maybe you could explain what your comment meant?
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Aboriginals lives matter
do you know what the word means Nudga? have a look
Yes I do.
excellent, maybe you could explain what your comment meant?
I thought you would know being in the same country.
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Aboriginals lives matter
do you know what the word means Nudga? have a look
Yes I do.
excellent, maybe you could explain what your comment meant?
I thought you would know being in the same country.
there you go Nudga Aboriginal means:
''inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists; indigenous''
Any country that is.
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This thread lasted long lol
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Aboriginals lives matter
do you know what the word means Nudga? have a look
Yes I do.
excellent, maybe you could explain what your comment meant?
I thought you would know being in the same country.
there you go Nudga Aboriginal means:
''inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists; indigenous''
Any country that is.
Like I said, I know what the meaning is.
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1463311634072576010?t=5i4uECMmbkCxYQVU91wm7w&s=19
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Is this another forum integrity test nudga, I'm part of a group of people that support Aboriginal rights, do you do anything yourself?
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Aboriginals lives matter
Monkey see monkey do eh Sydders, start by explaining your own ticks first!
do you know what the word means Nudga? have a look
Yes I do.
excellent, maybe you could explain what your comment meant?
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Is this another forum integrity test nudga, I'm part of a group of people that support Aboriginal rights, do you do anything yourself?
Why use a word you have just vilified another person using..Explain?
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Is this another forum integrity test nudga, I'm part of a group of people that support Aboriginal rights, do you do anything yourself?
Why use a word you have just vilified another person using..Explain?
Maybe you should learn how to stop carrying a grudge sprot, it will make you a better person, move on.
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Aboriginals lives matter
do you know what the word means Nudga? have a look
Yes I do.
excellent, maybe you could explain what your comment meant?
I thought you would know being in the same country.
there you go Nudga Aboriginal means:
''inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists; indigenous''
Any country that is.
That'll be us Brits here then, but apparently we don't matter, we just pay for everyone else.
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we're all bitsers Al a bit scandi a bit german a bit this and a bit that
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Sydney
How are the indigenous Australians seen these days by the rest of the population in Oz these days?
I ask because my wife's sister has lived there for 50 years and she and her circle have no time for them.
The stuff she says about them would make your toes curl.
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:facepalm:
ALL lives matter. Apart from paedophiles, rapists etc. You get the general gist.
Point being, the Home Office doesn't seem to think that the lives of AfroCarribbean British people who were illegally deported, denied the right to work or had their lives turned upside down matter enough to prioritise sorting out the pile of shit that they threw over them.
I assume you've never woken up to an e-mail telling you that you need to prove that you have the right to remain in the UK, otherwise you're going to be forcibly deported to Austria?
Which is why the way that society treats black people needs to be particularly highlighted.
And disabled people? Society treats them like shit too but i don't see much written about it.
Like the autistic man who has been kept in a secure unit for 21 years despite a psychiatrist having signed him off to be released for independent living in 2013. There is no provision for him so he stays locked up despite having done nothing wrong. Does his life matter?
All lives matter and all minorities in society have it tough and we should be highlighting them all. Not just one section.
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Sydney
How are the indigenous Australians seen these days by the rest of the population in Oz these days?
I ask because my wife's sister has lived there for 50 years and she and her circle have no time for them.
The stuff she says about them would make your toes curl.
Hi Tommy, yes I can understand that, it has been a long battle for native communities to get recognition, acceptance and their rights. It is a very long story from the massacres and evictions suffered at the hands of settlers to land rights gained in relatively recent times. As a marginalised group, spread across Australia they suffered from a history written for them by the white population. This is slowly changing but there is still a long way to go. They are vilified because many do not conform to 'European standards' and do not live nor wish to live the same way. They have a whole different set of values concerning the land and their relationships. Fortunately changes are being made there are many well educated and trained and they are slowly taking control of their own lives and futures. I am not at the front line by any means in this fight but all the groups I am involved with fully recognise and respect that this (Australia) is Aboriginal land always was and always will be, we support them as those in our group support us.
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Thanks for that Syd.
Pleased that some progress and understanding is being made.
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we're all bitsers Al a bit scandi a bit german a bit this and a bit that
The brotherhood of European people. Different tribes of the same race.
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Sydney
How are the indigenous Australians seen these days by the rest of the population in Oz these days?
I ask because my wife's sister has lived there for 50 years and she and her circle have no time for them.
The stuff she says about them would make your toes curl.
Do you ever pull her up about it?
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Sydney
How are the indigenous Australians seen these days by the rest of the population in Oz these days?
I ask because my wife's sister has lived there for 50 years and she and her circle have no time for them.
The stuff she says about them would make your toes curl.
Do you ever pull her up about it?
No.
If you knew her you'd understand why I haven't.
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
Who asked you to speak for them?
Who?
The 'we' who you think you're speaking on behalf of.
I suppose the ‘we’ is anybody who doesn’t need Our Billy to tell them how to think in his didactic, narcissistic way.
If that’s you, then your welcome. If it’s not, then why are you even responding?
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
Who asked you to speak for them?
Who?
The 'we' who you think you're speaking on behalf of.
I suppose the ‘we’ is anybody who doesn’t need Our Billy to tell them how to think in his didactic, narcissistic way.
If that’s you, then your welcome. If it’s not, then why are you even responding?
No, that 'we' is you pretending to speak for the whole forum (including me, why is why I responded) as if everybody else has the same puerile viewpoint as yourself. if it wasn't, no doubt you've have said so at the time that you said it. As it is, you're just squirming now you've been challenged on it - even now you don't have any conviction in what you're saying because you straightaway are only 'supposing'!
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Very odd. I'd have thought "anybody who doesn’t need Our Billy to tell them how to think" would have ignored me. Rather than direct a message at me when he knows I'm ignoring him.
Takes all sorts I guess.
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Very odd. I'd have thought "anybody who doesn’t need Our Billy to tell them how to think" would have ignored me. Rather than direct a message at me when he knows I'm ignoring him.
Takes all sorts I guess.
But you are posting on here Billy. You don’t get to choose who responds to your posts Billy.
You do get to choose how you respond to them, though. Although you can’t seem to make your mind up what to do.
Remember, it’s you who is pretending to ignore me, not the other way around.
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
Who asked you to speak for them?
Who?
The 'we' who you think you're speaking on behalf of.
I suppose the ‘we’ is anybody who doesn’t need Our Billy to tell them how to think in his didactic, narcissistic way.
If that’s you, then your welcome. If it’s not, then why are you even responding?
No, that 'we' is you pretending to speak for the whole forum (including me, why is why I responded) as if everybody else has the same puerile viewpoint as yourself. if it wasn't, no doubt you've have said so at the time that you said it. As it is, you're just squirming now you've been challenged on it - even now you don't have any conviction in what you're saying because you straightaway are only 'supposing'!
What the f**k are you rattling on about, Glyn?
Do you really think that I thought Iwas speaking on behalf of you and the rest of Billy’s sycophants?
I’m not sure what you mean by ‘said so at the time’. Do you mean I never responded straight away? If you did, then my response to that is I don’t have time for my fingers to stay hovering over the keyboard as I anticipate responding to your latest bit of nonsense as soon as you send it.
And I used the word ‘suppose’ because I was surprised you needed to ask me. But thanks for the lesson on semantics. I’ve taken it all on board, and completely dismissed it.
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
Who asked you to speak for them?
Who?
The 'we' who you think you're speaking on behalf of.
I suppose the ‘we’ is anybody who doesn’t need Our Billy to tell them how to think in his didactic, narcissistic way.
If that’s you, then your welcome. If it’s not, then why are you even responding?
No, that 'we' is you pretending to speak for the whole forum (including me, why is why I responded) as if everybody else has the same puerile viewpoint as yourself. if it wasn't, no doubt you've have said so at the time that you said it. As it is, you're just squirming now you've been challenged on it - even now you don't have any conviction in what you're saying because you straightaway are only 'supposing'!
What the f**k are you rattling on about, Glyn?
Do you really think that I thought Iwas speaking on behalf of you and the rest of Billy’s sycophants?
I’m not sure what you mean by ‘said so at the time’. Do you mean I never responded straight away? If you did, then my response to that is I don’t have time for my fingers to stay hovering over the keyboard as I anticipate responding to your latest bit of nonsense as soon as you send it.
And I used the word ‘suppose’ because I was surprised you needed to ask me. But thanks for the lesson on semantics. I’ve taken it all on board, and completely dismissed it.
1. You were using the 'we' as if you were talking for everybody.
2. If you weren't, you should have 'said so at the time'
And I didn't even have to 'read between the lines' as you did with the OP in order make up a whole new meaning to what was written.
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Billy. We don’t need you to tell us this on an off topic football forum. FFS find somewhere else to massage your didactic, narcissistic ways.
Who asked you to speak for them?
Who?
The 'we' who you think you're speaking on behalf of.
I suppose the ‘we’ is anybody who doesn’t need Our Billy to tell them how to think in his didactic, narcissistic way.
If that’s you, then your welcome. If it’s not, then why are you even responding?
No, that 'we' is you pretending to speak for the whole forum (including me, why is why I responded) as if everybody else has the same puerile viewpoint as yourself. if it wasn't, no doubt you've have said so at the time that you said it. As it is, you're just squirming now you've been challenged on it - even now you don't have any conviction in what you're saying because you straightaway are only 'supposing'!
What the f**k are you rattling on about, Glyn?
Do you really think that I thought Iwas speaking on behalf of you and the rest of Billy’s sycophants?
I’m not sure what you mean by ‘said so at the time’. Do you mean I never responded straight away? If you did, then my response to that is I don’t have time for my fingers to stay hovering over the keyboard as I anticipate responding to your latest bit of nonsense as soon as you send it.
And I used the word ‘suppose’ because I was surprised you needed to ask me. But thanks for the lesson on semantics. I’ve taken it all on board, and completely dismissed it.
1. You were using the 'we' as if you were talking for everybody.
2. If you weren't, you should have 'said so at the time'
And I didn't even have to 'read between the lines' as you did with the OP in order make up a whole new meaning to what was written.
Oh I see. You are telling me (incorrectly, as I have explained) what I was thinking in a bid to tell me not to tell you what you were thinking.
Got it.
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I was telling you what you wrote. I can't say what you thought about something you obviously didn't think about.
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No, no, no, Glyn. You asked me to clarify what I meant by ‘we’. I was more than happy to do that, and made it crystal clear who I meant by ‘we’. You then told me I my explanation wasn’t what I actually meant, and proceeded to to tell me what I actually did mean by ‘we’.
Blimey, you are becoming as didactic as Billy himself!
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Where is LDR with his command of the English language when you need him?
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Where is LDR with his command of the English language when you need him?
Sorry, Raven, I'm claiming to be the best on here at that.
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Well said Colin. There is definitely limited selectiveness about who is thought to be worthy of feeling marginalised
The aboriginal people and the native Americans have all been harshly treated
It’s not only one group it’s all groups like you say. Who’s fighting for the rights of Afghan women or the Palestinians, or many other endless groups which in my opinion is far far worse than some of the nonsense being claimed by some recent headline grabbers
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Well said Colin. There is definitely limited selectiveness about who is thought to be worthy of feeling marginalised
The aboriginal people and the native Americans have all been harshly treated
It’s not only one group it’s all groups like you say. Who’s fighting for the rights of Afghan women or the Palestinians, or many other endless groups which in my opinion is far far worse than some of the nonsense being claimed by some recent headline grabbers
So because something worse has happened in another time, another place, we can ignore what's happening here and now?
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Heard a few loud boos yesterday from a section of our fans on the away terrace in response to the taking of the knee.
I wasn't one of them but maybe they had a right to do so?
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Sydney why are you getting arsey. AGAIN
I’m agreeing with you about how people are being genuinely mistreated and abused AT THIS VERY MOMENT all over the world. Being disenfranchised a lot worse than a lot of stuff thats in the media every day
People have the right to free expression and speech so long as it’s not racist or hateful
If people want to boo that’s their choice and their right
This is my point about selectiveness. People have been ejected from grounds and banned for booing etc
Why are their rights not allowed to be heard
I personally wouldn’t boo but people have the right to free choice
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I can only repy to what you write phil, and I'm questioning your logic is all, it's what you do in the here and now that matters, that will make a change.
Not sure where you read all the other stuff in my comment.