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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:56:31 pm
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This isn’t a sinister sounding word at all is it?
I know it’s a letter in the Greek alphabet, but there must have been others to use.
Alpha, delta, omicron?
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Moronic!
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I think the next Greek letter was supposed to be Nu, but Nu Variant would have gone down well with the deniers wouldn't it...
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Not as downbeat as omega.
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They were going to call it Pi but it wasn't pukka.
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Moronic!
Good that Nudga, well seen.
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Moronic!
Made me laugh this. :lol:
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Two cases found in UK Chelmsford and Nottingham
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/boris-johnson-deliver-urgent-statement-22296302?fbclid=IwAR0wznOFOauT5D8bcY7Nrpn_BBKsr7nwjvNdH5ZpeQ01RLZIftAqgPbL5pI
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Inevitable. There will be a lot more.
The Belgium case flew in from Egypt. We have thousands of brits there on holiday currently.
Big question, is if this variant is a problem in regard to current vaccines. Which we won’t know for 2 weeks.
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We need to be putting pressure on all the lunatics who are endangering people and not getting jabbed
My nephew is one and he can’t even say why he just hasn’t done it
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Hahaha hahaha
Not much faith in your first 2 or 3 jabs have you.
If you wear your glasses at the same time as me, we'll both be able to see better
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Just checked on tui website. I can still book a flight to Egypt this Monday for a holiday. Madness.
This is where we fail.
Our inability to react quickly and decisively is woeful.
People cannot be trusted to do the pcr on return. People still don’t have track and trace. There are many people that just don’t give a shit about it.
If, and it’s a big if, this new variant is vaccine resistant, then everything we have endured up to now is just the warm up act to the main event.
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Thought it was a new Transformers baddie :chair:
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We need to be putting pressure on all the lunatics who are endangering people and not getting jabbed
My nephew is one and he can’t even say why he just hasn’t done it
The levels of angst and intolerance i see vented when someone isn't able to force another to have a vaccine does provide me with some small amount of brief entertainment.
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New measures wont make much difference to me I have continued to wear a face mask even though, stupidly in my opinion, it wasn't mandatory. Some one said today 50% were not wearing masks on the tube in London even though it's a condition of travel, I have news for that person my experience earlier this year is that it is more like 90 - 95% who aren't wearing them, my worry is that that trend will continue
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New measures wont make much difference to me I have continued to wear a face mask even though, stupidly in my opinion, it wasn't mandatory. Some one said today 50% were not wearing masks on the tube in London even though it's a condition of travel, I have news for that person my experience earlier this year is that it is more like 90 - 95% who aren't wearing them, my worry is that that trend will continue
So have I. My job includes supermarket IT stuff I travel all over south Yorkshire and Lincolnshire I am pretty fastidious with the sanitiser, masks etc. I worked all the way through I finally succumbed about a month ago it aint nice!! I'm basically ok but totally knackered it hits you. I was in sunny Grimsby this last week, a virtually full bus pulled into the the stop as I was going past virtually no one was wearing a mask. I was due my booster just as i tested positive, i had to cancel cos I cant have it now for 28 days after the 1st positive test and basically not allowed to test for 90 days unless full blown symptoms as the results will be skewed My personal opinion a mask or a face shield should be mandatory I have tried both if you have a respiratory issue a face shield really doesn't interfere :chair:
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New measures wont make much difference to me I have continued to wear a face mask even though, stupidly in my opinion, it wasn't mandatory. Some one said today 50% were not wearing masks on the tube in London even though it's a condition of travel, I have news for that person my experience earlier this year is that it is more like 90 - 95% who aren't wearing them, my worry is that that trend will continue
So have I. My job includes supermarket IT stuff I travel all over south Yorkshire and Lincolnshire I am pretty fastidious with the sanitiser, masks etc. I worked all the way through I finally succumbed about a month ago it aint nice!! I'm basically ok but totally knackered it hits you. I was in sunny Grimsby this last week, a virtually full bus pulled into the the stop as I was going past virtually no one was wearing a mask. I was due my booster just as i tested positive, i had to cancel cos I cant have it now for 28 days after the 1st positive test and basically not allowed to test for 90 days unless full blown symptoms as the results will be skewed My personal opinion a mask or a face shield should be mandatory I have tried both if you have a respiratory issue a face shield really doesn't interfere :chair:
So now you have natural immunity (remember that one guys?) and survived "this bas**rd".
Yeah you felt rough for a bit but you're still choosing to look on the negative side.
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Omicron moronic [for Dutch Uncle's collection]
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New measures wont make much difference to me I have continued to wear a face mask even though, stupidly in my opinion, it wasn't mandatory. Some one said today 50% were not wearing masks on the tube in London even though it's a condition of travel, I have news for that person my experience earlier this year is that it is more like 90 - 95% who aren't wearing them, my worry is that that trend will continue
So have I. My job includes supermarket IT stuff I travel all over south Yorkshire and Lincolnshire I am pretty fastidious with the sanitiser, masks etc. I worked all the way through I finally succumbed about a month ago it aint nice!! I'm basically ok but totally knackered it hits you. I was in sunny Grimsby this last week, a virtually full bus pulled into the the stop as I was going past virtually no one was wearing a mask. I was due my booster just as i tested positive, i had to cancel cos I cant have it now for 28 days after the 1st positive test and basically not allowed to test for 90 days unless full blown symptoms as the results will be skewed My personal opinion a mask or a face shield should be mandatory I have tried both if you have a respiratory issue a face shield really doesn't interfere :chair:
So now you have natural immunity (remember that one guys?) and survived "this bas**rd".
Yeah you felt rough for a bit but you're still choosing to look on the negative side.
I knew 6 people who played Russian Roulette. 5 of them survived. I don't know what all the fuss is about.
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New measures wont make much difference to me I have continued to wear a face mask even though, stupidly in my opinion, it wasn't mandatory. Some one said today 50% were not wearing masks on the tube in London even though it's a condition of travel, I have news for that person my experience earlier this year is that it is more like 90 - 95% who aren't wearing them, my worry is that that trend will continue
So have I. My job includes supermarket IT stuff I travel all over south Yorkshire and Lincolnshire I am pretty fastidious with the sanitiser, masks etc. I worked all the way through I finally succumbed about a month ago it aint nice!! I'm basically ok but totally knackered it hits you. I was in sunny Grimsby this last week, a virtually full bus pulled into the the stop as I was going past virtually no one was wearing a mask. I was due my booster just as i tested positive, i had to cancel cos I cant have it now for 28 days after the 1st positive test and basically not allowed to test for 90 days unless full blown symptoms as the results will be skewed My personal opinion a mask or a face shield should be mandatory I have tried both if you have a respiratory issue a face shield really doesn't interfere :chair:
So now you have natural immunity (remember that one guys?) and survived "this bas**rd".
Yeah you felt rough for a bit but you're still choosing to look on the negative side.
Whats negative? thats the last thing I am about it. Its my opinion, at the moment to wear a mask or face shield is the safest option as for feeling "rough" for a few days.....................................
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Well done Sprotbrough we are top of the Covid hit parade in Donny
With double the infection rate of Bentley, Edlo and woodlands
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It will be even worse after the switch on last night Sproty fortunately (or unfortunately) I was on my way back from Burton so didn’t go
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Well done Sprotbrough we are top of the Covid hit parade in Donny
With double the infection rate of Bentley, Edlo and woodlands
Bentley, edlo and woodlands probably less likely to test after sneezing though
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Moronic!
Good that Nudga, well seen.
I sent that to Dutch earlier as he collects "Withagrams" but that was before I realised of his sad loss
Also Coronavirus = carnivorous was one I spotted when it first sprang up
Not being a linguist but fascinated by such stuff I hadnt realised Greek alphabet has 2 letter o's till someone on Twitter pointed out that "he KNEW that there WERE 2 o's - a small o named O...micron and a large O O...mega"
That has been plain to see my whole life [he said] & yet I never spotted it till today ... duh
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Moronic!
Good that Nudga, well seen.
I sent that to Dutch earlier as he collects "Withagrams" but that was before I realised of his sad loss
Also Coronavirus = carnivorous was one I spotted when it first sprang up
Not being a linguist but fascinated by such stuff I hadnt realised Greek alphabet has 2 letter o's till someone on Twitter pointed out that "he KNEW that there WERE 2 o's - a small o named O...micron and a large O O...mega"
That has been plain to see my whole life [he said] & yet I never spotted it till today ... duh
I can’t believe I didn’t know that either.
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Why is international travel not banned?
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OMICRON = MASS HYSTERIA
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ALL UK POPULATION REFUSE VACCINATION = MILLIONS OF DEATHS.
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ALL UK POPULATION REFUSE VACCINATION = MILLIONS OF DEATHS.
With a survival rate of over 99.9% for UNVACCINATED people that the virus has, i'd suggest that your maths isn't great.
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I have my fingers crossed about Omnicron, reports that it produces only mild symptoms are encouraging. A highly transmissible, mild version is really what we need to have.
Some worrying reports about elavated pulse rates, though. The last think we want is a shift to something that affects the heart more.
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OMICRON = MASS HYSTERIA
With your constant bangng of the anti drum the only mass hysteria I see is coming from you, I’ve said before if you want to live your life unprotected thats fine by me, just don’t ridicule those who are trying to stay protected
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OMICRON = MASS HYSTERIA
With your constant bangng of the anti drum the only mass hysteria I see is coming from you, I’ve said before if you want to live your life unprotected thats fine by me, just don’t ridicule those who are trying to stay protected
I'm only doing that because they are the ones not just happy to have their freedoms curtailed but are actively calling for others to have theirs curtailed too. Which is selfish.
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ALL UK POPULATION REFUSE VACCINATION = MILLIONS OF DEATHS.
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With a survival rate of over 99.9% for UNVACCINATED people that the virus has, i'd suggest that your maths isn't great.
Nothing to do with the millions of responsible people who have been vaccinated thus helping to stop the spread of the virus then, including to the 99.9% survivors (your stats) of UNVACCINATED (why do you feel the need to ‘shout’?) people you’re clearly a fully paid up member of.
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Oh great. Another one.
The vaccine does not stop the spread of the bloody virus. Even Bozo Johnson said that the other day on his press conference yet ignorant zealots like you still cannot understand this.
Jabbed people are no more protecting others than the unjabbed. Learn that and come back when you have.
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Well when you start believing anything lying Bozo has to say you really are in desperate mode.
You’re also very blaise in name calling. I’d be very, very careful in the language you use the next time you respond to my posts fella.
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Well when you start believing anything lying Bozo has to say you really are in desperate mode.
You’re also very blaise in name calling. I’d be very, very careful in the language you use the next time you respond to my posts fella.
Colin. I am saying that the vaccine does not really stop transmission. Your point about believing Boris is valid but the science still says this.
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Well when you start believing anything lying Bozo has to say you really are in desperate mode.
You’re also very blaise in name calling. I’d be very, very careful in the language you use the next time you respond to my posts fella.
Colin. I am saying that the vaccine does not really stop transmission. Your point about believing Boris is valid but the science still says this.
‘The science says’.
The WHO says ‘The covid-19 vaccine is safe & effective in preventing serious illness or death from the virus’.
For arguments sake, if everyone in the world were to be fully vaccinated there would be fewer deaths than there have been from covid.
If everyone in the world were to refuse to be vaccinated…..
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The BBC News has just featured a South African Doctor who said the cases of Omnicron she has seen so far have mild symptoms.
It would not require ICU, it would not require hospital admission and can easily be treated from home.
This is just what we need to hear. If this turns out to be correct and it out competes Delta, then we are moving from a pandemic to an endemic situation. Then we can start to just live with it.
Fingers crossed.
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I’ve read a report that suggests omicron could be a blessing in disguise. As it’s symptoms MAY be lesser than say Delta. If omicron becomes dominant, it could eradicate the more problematic delta variant.
These are ifs and ands at the moment of course.
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ALL UK POPULATION REFUSE VACCINATION = MILLIONS OF DEATHS.
With a survival rate of over 99.9% for UNVACCINATED people that the virus has, i'd suggest that your maths isn't great.
Clearly and unambiguously wrong on the numbers.
0.2% of the entire UK population has died of COVID. In several countries the figure is much higher. In Bergamo 0.6% of the population died of COVID in a matter of weeks. So, no, 99.9% of infected people don't survive. The figure is more like 99.5% at the very highest.
But that's not the way to look at it. Pitch it this way. 1 in 200 of all unvaccinated people who catch COVID will be dead in 4 weeks.
No ask yourself: what other activity would we "meh" at, if 1 in 200 participants died shortly after taking part in it?
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ALL UK POPULATION REFUSE VACCINATION = MILLIONS OF DEATHS.
With a survival rate of over 99.9% for UNVACCINATED people that the virus has, i'd suggest that your maths isn't great.
Clearly and unambiguously wrong on the numbers.
0.2% of the entire UK population has died of COVID. In several countries the figure is much higher. In Bergamo 0.6% of the population died of COVID in a matter of weeks. So, no, 99.9% of infected people don't survive. The figure is more like 99.5%.
But that's not the way to look at it. Pitch it this way. 1 in 200 of all unvaccinated people who catch COVID will be dead in 4 weeks.
No ask yourself: what other activity would we "meh" at, if 1 in 200 participants died shortly after taking part in it?
Clearly and unambiguously wrong on the numbers.
0.2% of the uk population has died where COVID has been noted, it may have been a contributing factor and in a lot of cases not.
Be honest man
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The BBC News has just featured a South African Doctor who said the cases of Omnicron she has seen so far have mild symptoms.
It would not require ICU, it would not require hospital admission and can easily be treated from home.
This is just what we need to hear. If this turns out to be correct and it out competes Delta, then we are moving from a pandemic to an endemic situation. Then we can start to just live with it.
Fingers crossed.
RD,
Apparently this impression is due to the editing of her interview.
She was talking about the current impact in SA, where many of the infections are in a younger age group, and where the level of vaccination is much lower.
This tells us very little about how the same variant will perform in UK circumstances.
I agree with JVT that we need to be cautious for data to emerge over the next 2/3 weeks or so.
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ALL UK POPULATION REFUSE VACCINATION = MILLIONS OF DEATHS.
With a survival rate of over 99.9% for UNVACCINATED people that the virus has, i'd suggest that your maths isn't great.
Clearly and unambiguously wrong on the numbers.
0.2% of the entire UK population has died of COVID. In several countries the figure is much higher. In Bergamo 0.6% of the population died of COVID in a matter of weeks. So, no, 99.9% of infected people don't survive. The figure is more like 99.5%.
But that's not the way to look at it. Pitch it this way. 1 in 200 of all unvaccinated people who catch COVID will be dead in 4 weeks.
No ask yourself: what other activity would we "meh" at, if 1 in 200 participants died shortly after taking part in it?
Clearly and unambiguously wrong on the numbers.
0.2% of the uk population has died where COVID has been noted, it may have been a contributing factor and in a lot of cases not.
Be honest man
I am so tired of dealing with this absolute nonsense.
The vast majority of the deaths occurred in three short periods, during which the overall death rate increased by 50-100% on its normal figures. Anyone who can look at that and not conclude that the deaths were FROM COVID is either too stupid to draw logical conclusions, or pushing some other agenda. If you have ANY evidence that significant numbers of people who were at death's door are included in the COVID death figures, people who were just about to die, I mean, not people with co-morbidities, then point me in that direction. Otherwise, please stop posting this nonsense.
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You clearly have an agenda to push, I’ll leave you to it. One day you may come clean
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I watched the first broadcast of that doctor on UK News Friday morning which as albie says has been cut and edited to a shortened version since.
The impression she gave was that at the moment the infected people were showing milder symptoms, but it was early in their illness, and that they could not come to the conclusion it was a milder form until at least another 14 days monitoring of the infection and was complete to confirm whether it was or not.
Basically they do not know yet and time will tell.
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You clearly have an agenda to push, I’ll leave you to it. One day you may come clean
I do have an agenda. I want to live in a country where people deal with stuff from a position of knowledge and understanding, not unsubstantiated b*llocks.
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I have to admit, I did go and check that Sir Desmond Swayne really IS an MP, not a comedy character.
He really is.
Sweet f**king baby Jesus and all the angels, this man votes in Parliament.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1465266433546461188
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Billy, the generation gap was evident in the Glasshoughton Shopping centre this morning with a far larger percentage of shoppers in the older age groups wearing masks than the younger generations.
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You clearly have an agenda to push, I’ll leave you to it. One day you may come clean
I do have an agenda. I want to live in a country where people deal with stuff from a position of knowledge and understanding, not unsubstantiated b*llocks.
Oh the irony of this coming from the master manipulator
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Selby.
In our local shops, 90% of younger people were wearing masks until the official line changed to "make your own judgement".
They made their own judgement that they weren't at risk, and now fewer than 10% wear masks.
Do you think the official guidance changing might have been a bit less than helpful?
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Ldr. I have never once posted data that I knew to be wrong. If that's what you have left in your sheaf of insults, you ought to save yourself the effort of typing.
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83% of Britons support the new requirement in England for face masks to be worn in shops and on public transport
Support - 83%
Oppose - 14%
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1465339059795120139
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I wonder how a poll on here would pan out?
Have we more than 14% opposition on here I wonder or are they just more vocal?
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YouGov, hahaha Kinnell
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I guess Billy it just shows the older generation are more intelligent in your eyes seeing as how they were issued the same information by the same government then.
Funny how you berate them for going against government advice over the referendum. I just think they could be more sensible.
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No Selby.
It shows that people are making a judgement based on how at risk THEY feel. Because the guidance from the Govt on what mask wearing actually does has been utter shite from the off.
Old people feel at risk, so they wear masks.
Young people don't, so they don't.
What has been totally absent in the Govt guidance is the clear message that the primary point of masks is not to protect the wearer but to stop the wearer infecting others. So how in God's name people are supposed to use their own judgement on how at risk they feel, in order to make a rational decision on mask wearing (and that is the official advice) is anyone's guess.
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The BBC News has just featured a South African Doctor who said the cases of Omnicron she has seen so far have mild symptoms.
It would not require ICU, it would not require hospital admission and can easily be treated from home.
This is just what we need to hear. If this turns out to be correct and it out competes Delta, then we are moving from a pandemic to an endemic situation. Then we can start to just live with it.
Fingers crossed.
RD,
Apparently this impression is due to the editing of her interview.
She was talking about the current impact in SA, where many of the infections are in a younger age group, and where the level of vaccination is much lower.
This tells us very little about how the same variant will perform in UK circumstances.
I agree with JVT that we need to be cautious for data to emerge over the next 2/3 weeks or so.
Yep,
I know it's too soon to say.
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Selby.
In our local shops, 90% of younger people were wearing masks until the official line changed to "make your own judgement".
They made their own judgement that they weren't at risk, and now fewer than 10% wear masks.
Do you think the official guidance changing might have been a bit less than helpful?
Yes quite. "The government and prime minister are idiots I wouldn't listen or do what they do"? So why did you stop wearing a mask? "The government and prime minister said it was ok and Matt Hancock had an affair."
Ok, my point above is hugely exaggerated, but I do think a lot of the population rightly at the time made the judgement for themselves. That judgement in my opinion was mostly misplaced but it's a judgement each should in many cases be entitled to make.
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BFYP
If the official advice goes from mandating mask wearing, to letting people decide for themselves, what do you think people are going to do?
We went on holiday on the day the advice changed. It was astonishing how the number of people not wearing masks increased overnight.
If there is one thing we have learned from this whole affair, it's that, mostly, people listen to and act on Govt guidance. The problems have come when there hasn't been clear guidance.
And I really don't get how it is the right thing to do, to leave to individuals a decision about how much threat they are prepared to impose on others. It makes no practical, logical or moral sense.
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I am the oldest where i work. The young ones don't care about anything other than themselves. Most of them are out every weekend and don't give a monkeys about anyone else. Maybe it would have been better for all if we had seen more fatalities in the younger age groups.
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Ldr. I have never once posted data that I knew to be wrong. If that's what you have left in your sheaf of insults, you ought to save yourself the effort of typing.
BST I’m not trying to fall out here but you know as well as everyone that the metrics are flawed. Died within 28 days of a positive test does not confirm death from COVID as you appear to keep pushing. No one is disputing a tragedy is in progress but I wish ppl would be honest about the figures.
A couple of observations.
The picture logically is better than the figures (however you look at them) present. This is due to the undoubted asymptomatic cases out there that haven’t been tested due to unawareness. These means the hospitalisation rate (not absolute numbers, you can’t miss a hospitalisation easily) will be lower as will the mortality rate.
Second, vital mutations are generally a good thing, they invariably get more infectious but less deadly. Again this is logical, a virus replicates, that’s is sole function, it defeats its own purpose by being too detrimental to the reservoir of life it has to live in.
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Ldr.
The headline figures are a simple 28 day rule and yes, I entirely agree that not everyone who died within 28 days of a COVID test would have lived if they hadn't caught COVID.
Every week, the ONS deals with this by releasing figures from death certificates. The certificates state the medics' opinions on whether COVID was the leading cause or not of the death. Typically, only around 12% of case have people dying WITH COVID, with the rest, in the medics' opinions, being deaths DUE TO COVID.
The latest figures of this sort show that around 135,000 people have died OF COVID.
That is 0.2% of the entire population. That is the figure I gave, that you challenged, accusing me if manipulating data. I don't. I never have and I very much resent that unwarranted slur. Not because it upsets me. Because it implies an assumption of bad faith that destroys intelligent debate.
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I apologise for making you feel that way. I feel as you do over perceived misrepresentation of figures which then become accepted as fact
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PS.
I've also cited a figure of 175k COVID deaths. This is where that comes from.
The ONS figures show a total of 150k people's death certificates mentioning COVID. That's 135k where COVID was the leading cause (OF, if you like) and 15k where it was a factor but not primary (WITH).
But there's a strange thing happened in the first wave. There were 25k excess deaths where COVID wasn't mentioned on the death certificate. The ONS has investigated this and believes the overwhelmingly most likely explanation is that these people died of undiagnosed COVID.
So the total number of COVID-,related deaths is very likely to be 175k, of which COVID was the primary cause of death in 160k cases.
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I give up
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Apologies Ldr. I misread your post while hotfooting it to a meeting. I've deleted my comment and apologise for assuming the worst!
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These fellow seems to be talking sense. A calm and reasoned approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgFMkXxX07U
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I always thought Neil Oliver was more interested in promoting his own image rather than The Coast programme he fronted.
Some things never change, except that here he's espousing conspiracy theories that the gullable, like Axholme Lion, not only swallow but trumpet.
Is your Earth flat AL?
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These fellow seems to be talking sense. A calm and reasoned approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgFMkXxX07U
sums up how I feel.
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I always thought Neil Oliver was more interested in promoting his own image rather than The Coast programme he fronted.
Some things never change, except that here he's espousing conspiracy theories that the gullable, like Axholme Lion, not only swallow but trumpet.
Is your Earth flat AL?
No, but i bet yours would be if the powers that be and their SAGE puppets told you so. I didn't hear much of a conspiracy theory, just a calm, reasoned assessment of the situation.
Try thinking for yourself rather than being a sheep.
Also i think you'll find gullible is the correct spelling.
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Neil Oliver? Talking sense? The man is a walking fruitcake!
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I always thought Neil Oliver was more interested in promoting his own image rather than The Coast programme he fronted.
Some things never change, except that here he's espousing conspiracy theories that the gullable, like Axholme Lion, not only swallow but trumpet.
Is your Earth flat AL?
No, but i bet yours would be if the powers that be and their SAGE puppets told you so. I didn't hear much of a conspiracy theory, just a calm, reasoned assessment of the situation.
Try thinking for yourself rather than being a sheep.
Also i think you'll find gullible is the correct spelling.
I’d leave it there....he will be giving you his seat number, wanting to arrange a meet !!
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I always thought Neil Oliver was more interested in promoting his own image rather than The Coast programme he fronted.
Some things never change, except that here he's espousing conspiracy theories that the gullable, like Axholme Lion, not only swallow but trumpet.
Is your Earth flat AL?
No, but i bet yours would be if the powers that be and their SAGE puppets told you so. I didn't hear much of a conspiracy theory, just a calm, reasoned assessment of the situation.
Try thinking for yourself rather than being a sheep.
Also i think you'll find gullible is the correct spelling.
I’d leave it there....he will be giving you his seat number, wanting to arrange a meet !!
HA HA. :)
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Boris wants us all to wear a mask. "Well, when you start believing anything lying Bozo has to say you really are in desperate mode."
Don't wear a mask.
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I always thought Neil Oliver was more interested in promoting his own image rather than The Coast programme he fronted.
Some things never change, except that here he's espousing conspiracy theories that the gullable, like Axholme Lion, not only swallow but trumpet.
Is your Earth flat AL?
No, but i bet yours would be if the powers that be and their SAGE puppets told you so. I didn't hear much of a conspiracy theory, just a calm, reasoned assessment of the situation.
Try thinking for yourself rather than being a sheep.
Also i think you'll find gullible is the correct spelling.
Thanks for the spelling lesson.
I’d do anything to avoid being in a situation where I was struggling so hard to get a next breath panic sets in, it’s not what you need but it’s a natural phenomena (I checked the spelling). To feel your body going into ‘shut down’ because you can’t physically draw oxygen into it is not a place you want to be, & if your loved one/s are there to witness that ‘scene’, horrible.
I wouldn’t wish that on anyone & if there is a vaccine that had the capacity, even if you caught the virus, to ensure you wouldn’t have to endure such a terrifying ordeal, why wouldn’t you take it?
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I always thought Neil Oliver was more interested in promoting his own image rather than The Coast programme he fronted.
Some things never change, except that here he's espousing conspiracy theories that the gullable, like Axholme Lion, not only swallow but trumpet.
Is your Earth flat AL?
No, but i bet yours would be if the powers that be and their SAGE puppets told you so. I didn't hear much of a conspiracy theory, just a calm, reasoned assessment of the situation.
Try thinking for yourself rather than being a sheep.
Also i think you'll find gullible is the correct spelling.
Thanks for the spelling lesson.
I’d do anything to avoid being in a situation where I was struggling so hard to get a next breath panic sets in, it’s not what you need but it’s a natural phenomena (I checked the spelling). To feel your body going into ‘shut down’ because you can’t physically draw oxygen into it is not a place you want to be, & if your loved one/s are there to witness that ‘scene’, horrible.
I wouldn’t wish that on anyone & if there is a vaccine that had the capacity, even if you caught the virus, to ensure you wouldn’t have to endure such a terrifying ordeal, why wouldn’t you take it?
I have taken it and am having the booster on Monday. That's not what his main point is. It's now become more about flexing their muscles and keeping us all in our boxes. I'm doing the vaccine, mask and distance thing but that's it, i'm not going to be dicked around any more. I was due to go and see Madness and Squeeze at Sheffield on Saturday but i'm going to chuck the tickets in the bin as i can't be arsed with all the pissing around involved.
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We appear to be leaving the stable door open while we see what the horse does.
Again.
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Oh great. Looks like we are going to have a daily running commentary by the media on Omicron cases now. Up to 246 today. No doubt it will go up tomorrow and continue to rise. Surprise surprise. Why do we need to know the numbers of a variant of a virus that we can't stop anyway? Just more unnecessary fearmongering.
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Lockdown for Christmas anyone
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Omicron B = No Crimbo!
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Omicron B = No Crimbo!
it does ,who added the B to it
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BB
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New variation perhaps.
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it's full name is Omicron (B.1.1.529)
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B1 and B2.
Not Omicron variant related but the names of the bananas in bananas in pyjamas. :)
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The dimbleby lecture was very interesting last night. An account of the development of the vaccines from the horses mouth. Interesting to hear her comments about how the MSM squew reality.
I’d recommend watching it.
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The government is working its way towards restrictions for Christmas in my opinion unfortunately. It’s up to each individual family whether they listen or don’t.
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When was the last time that Boris made an announcement and it was good news and something to look forward to?
It usually means more OTT over reaction and more restrictions.
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When was the last time that Boris made an announcement and it was good news and something to look forward to?
It usually means more OTT over reaction and more restrictions.
Yes indeed. God forbid some highly transmissible virus curtails your door to door carol singing this year.
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When was the last time that Boris made an announcement and it was good news and something to look forward to?
It usually means more OTT over reaction and more restrictions.
I thought it was good news that the government are coming down more heavily on drug dealers, even if some people think it is a minor crime.
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When was the last time that Boris made an announcement and it was good news and something to look forward to?
It usually means more OTT over reaction and more restrictions.
Yes indeed. God forbid some highly transmissible virus curtails your door to door carol singing this year.
It isn't going to. :santa: :santa:
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When was the last time that Boris made an announcement and it was good news and something to look forward to?
It usually means more OTT over reaction and more restrictions.
I thought it was good news that the government are coming down more heavily on drug dealers, even if some people think it is a minor crime.
They 'say' they will, but like anything with this Government - it won't actually happen. Although they'll waste loads of taxpayers money in the process.
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I always thought Neil Oliver was more interested in promoting his own image rather than The Coast programme he fronted.
Some things never change, except that here he's espousing conspiracy theories that the gullable, like Axholme Lion, not only swallow but trumpet.
Is your Earth flat AL?
No, but i bet yours would be if the powers that be and their SAGE puppets told you so. I didn't hear much of a conspiracy theory, just a calm, reasoned assessment of the situation.
Try thinking for yourself rather than being a sheep.
Also i think you'll find gullible is the correct spelling.
Thanks for the spelling lesson.
I’d do anything to avoid being in a situation where I was struggling so hard to get a next breath panic sets in, it’s not what you need but it’s a natural phenomena (I checked the spelling). To feel your body going into ‘shut down’ because you can’t physically draw oxygen into it is not a place you want to be, & if your loved one/s are there to witness that ‘scene’, horrible.
I wouldn’t wish that on anyone & if there is a vaccine that had the capacity, even if you caught the virus, to ensure you wouldn’t have to endure such a terrifying ordeal, why wouldn’t you take it?
Do you seriously believe all what you just wrote?
These viruses will continue to morph and the scientists in their labs will continue to tell those still listening that they are highly contagious,
So what the hell was the all the fuss about being double jabbed and boostered for….
This virus will have another dozen names over the next few years, and varying degrees of infection will be attributed,
you can sit and cower in your house with all your government approved restrictions in place, but don’t try and guilt those who don’t quite believe the hype
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The more mutations the better, inevitably they get more infections but less deadly, it’s how virus survive
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Apparently as of this morning there has not been one death from this new virus……..globally
Hence the worlds back in lockdown……I guess the meek shall inherit the earth!
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Apparently as of this morning there has not been one death from this new virus……..globally
Hence the worlds back in lockdown……I guess the meek shall inherit the earth!
You do know people don't drop dead of COVID the moment they catch it?
Come back in a month and re visit this comment.
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Still down here but to be expected. Only 1 trust but I can monitor on a daily basis which is more up to date than published figures so I’ll keep an eye on our local ones
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I’m not downplaying the virus etc but has Plan B been introduced to deflect the Xmas Party uproar
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Is Germany still in D wave?
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In South Africa, the cases are doubling every 3.5 days or so which is a very frightening rate. To put it in perspective, the first Omicron cases were only idnetified just over 2 weeks ago.
On 21 Nov, they had just over 500 new positive cases as a 7 day average.
By 30 Nov that was up to over 2,500.
By yesterday, that was over 13,000.
That's a 25 fold increase, or about 4.5 doublings in 17 days. That's on a par with what we had back in March 2020 before the first lockdown.
In the UK, we already have a very high number of Delta cases every day - about 50,000 per day at the moment. So our numbers won't double as quickly as that, as Omicron currently makes up only a few hundred or a couple fo thousand of those. What's expected to happen between now and Xmas is that the new Omicron cases will grow rapidly, and the Delta cases will fall off. Total daily cases might go to 70-80k by then. Then the key thing is how fast Omicron cases grow with the Plan B controls. And of course, how many of those infections end up in hospital.
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I always thought Neil Oliver was more interested in promoting his own image rather than The Coast programme he fronted.
Some things never change, except that here he's espousing conspiracy theories that the gullable, like Axholme Lion, not only swallow but trumpet.
Is your Earth flat AL?
No, but i bet yours would be if the powers that be and their SAGE puppets told you so. I didn't hear much of a conspiracy theory, just a calm, reasoned assessment of the situation.
Try thinking for yourself rather than being a sheep.
Also i think you'll find gullible is the correct spelling.
Thanks for the spelling lesson.
I’d do anything to avoid being in a situation where I was struggling so hard to get a next breath panic sets in, it’s not what you need but it’s a natural phenomena (I checked the spelling). To feel your body going into ‘shut down’ because you can’t physically draw oxygen into it is not a place you want to be, & if your loved one/s are there to witness that ‘scene’, horrible.
I wouldn’t wish that on anyone & if there is a vaccine that had the capacity, even if you caught the virus, to ensure you wouldn’t have to endure such a terrifying ordeal, why wouldn’t you take it?
Do you seriously believe all what you just wrote?
These viruses will continue to morph and the scientists in their labs will continue to tell those still listening that they are highly contagious,
So what the hell was the all the fuss about being double jabbed and boostered for….
This virus will have another dozen names over the next few years, and varying degrees of infection will be attributed,
you can sit and cower in your house with all your government approved restrictions in place, but don’t try and guilt those who don’t quite believe the hype
You keep well.
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I’m not downplaying the virus etc but has Plan B been introduced to deflect the Xmas Party uproar
It's the other way round
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We could be a handful of mutations away from this virus ceasing to exist. Or alternatively, we could be a handful of mutations away from the unthinkable.
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There’s a good read re the future of covid in Europe in the Lancet.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwibhPfhsNf0AhWFY8AKHWysCD0QFnoECAMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thelancet.com%2Fjournals%2Flanepe%2Farticle%2FPIIS2666-7762(21)00162-9%2Ffulltext&usg=AOvVaw1pJEcOTY_MdygxdCSw8HxZ