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Title: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 04, 2021, 06:14:11 pm
Rovers are an unbelievable 16/5 for this.
Oxford are a shade under even money at 5/6
I know where my money is going.
In fact, a money spinner for the year would be to lump on every team that rovers play between now and seasons end.you won’t lose out.
Head over heart.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: River Don on December 04, 2021, 06:20:29 pm
Backing against Rovers at the moment is probably not a bad strategy.

At least the pain of defeat will have some compensation.

Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Filo on December 04, 2021, 07:39:44 pm
Just stuck £100 on an Oxford win, easy money at the moment and lessens the pain of defeat
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 04, 2021, 07:41:37 pm
Backing against Rovers at the moment is probably not a bad strategy.

At least the pain of defeat will have some compensation.



I’ve been doing it for some time.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: River Don on December 04, 2021, 07:57:32 pm
Always bet on what you know.

I used to do quite well backing against England at the right time. Always a lot of patriotic money distorting the odds. Not so easy now, though I did go for Italy to win in the final.

If you can take the emotion out of it, then betting against Rovers isn't a bad way to go.

I usually can't take the emotion out of it. But right now, it's not difficult to see the reality.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Filo on December 04, 2021, 08:24:34 pm
Got evens at William Hills
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 04, 2021, 09:09:06 pm
I was convinced that MK Dons would turn us over comfortably and they didn't. You never can tell, although i agree that on the balance of probability - Oxford win this game and i am not expecting anything other than an Oxford win.

I'm going on Tuesday with some hope that somehow we can manufacture a victory, otherwise what is the point?
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: 5minstogo on December 04, 2021, 11:04:57 pm
Well I hope you all lose your hard earned cash
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 05, 2021, 09:59:58 am
Well I hope you all lose your hard earned cash

Why wish this? What if it helps to attend games?
Of course no one wants rovers to lose.
If rovers form was slightly better, then betting against them would be more risky.
But based on what I’m seeing at the moment, there is a good chance of making easy money over a period of time.
Yes it’s seems counter intuitive to bet against your team, but it’s making something positive out of something negative.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 05, 2021, 10:04:44 am
Rovers have lost 12 so far and draw/ won a total of 7.

Based on £10 bets on each game and averaging even money per opposition team, you would be £70 down on the draws/ wins, but £120 up on the losses. So £50 to the better.
If you have deeper pockets and add a nought to the tenner bets that’s £500 profit.
Do you honestly see this form changing?
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Filo on December 05, 2021, 10:05:01 am
Well I hope you all lose your hard earned cash

Why wish this? What if it helps to attend games?
Of course no one wants rovers to lose.
If rovers form was slightly better, then betting against them would be more risky.
But based on what I’m seeing at the moment, there is a good chance of making easy money over a period of time.
Yes it’s seems counter intuitive to bet against your team, but it’s making something positive out of something negative.


Agree with this, I’m comfortable with losing £100 on Tuesday if Rovers were to win, I’m also confident if that happened I would quickly get that money back betting in the same way
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: NickDRFC on December 05, 2021, 10:19:29 am
Well I hope you all lose your hard earned cash

Why wish this? What if it helps to attend games?
Of course no one wants rovers to lose.
If rovers form was slightly better, then betting against them would be more risky.
But based on what I’m seeing at the moment, there is a good chance of making easy money over a period of time.
Yes it’s seems counter intuitive to bet against your team, but it’s making something positive out of something negative.

Because if you lose your money betting against Rovers, it means Rovers either draw or win.

I also hope you lose your bet!
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 05, 2021, 10:39:03 am
You completely mis interpret the message here.
I’m Happy to lose money if rovers win. Especially so this Tuesday night .
But that ain’t changing any time soon. Not this season in any case.
So wish away. You cannot ignore the obvious.

Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: NickDRFC on December 05, 2021, 11:09:27 am
You completely mis interpret the message here.
I’m Happy to lose money if rovers win. Especially so this Tuesday night .
But that ain’t changing any time soon. Not this season in any case.
So wish away. You cannot ignore the obvious.



I was replying to your question to 5minstogo. He said “I hope you lose all your hard earned cash”, and you said “Why would you wish this?”

It’s blindingly obvious why he would hope for that, regardless of any likelihood of any event happening. I agree that near enough even money represents very good odds against us, so I’m not misinterpreting anything, I just hope that you and anyone else betting against Rovers lose as it means that we as a club don’t.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 05, 2021, 11:19:10 am
I must admit that i have also backed against the team but there is a conflict here. Maybe it is dependant on how much one stands to make financially and whether or not that potential financial gain trumps that of your team winning.

For example, i am pretty certain that Oxford will beat us so if i put 500 quid on an Oxford win because i thought the bet was a dead cert and Rovers won. I'd actually be disappointed that Rovers won. Because the financial benefit of Oxford winning would be preferable to the 3 points from a Rovers win.

I would never want to be in that position.

So i guess it all depends on how much the money means to you. If i put 20 quid on an Oxford win on Tuesday then if Rovers win, i won't be bothered about losing 20 quid. But when the stakes get higher, the greater conflict occurs.


Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 05, 2021, 11:27:59 am
The golden rule of betting.never stake more than you can afford to lose. Or More than would you unhappy losing .
I have a punt for fun. Not to make a living .
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 05, 2021, 11:31:06 am
The golden rule of betting.never stake more than you can afford to lose. Or More than would you unhappy losing .
I have a punt for fun. Not to make a living .

Yes. Agree totally.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Prez on December 05, 2021, 12:10:19 pm
I gamble for a living predominately on horses and football, and there are many times i have money on the opposition, weather its Rovers opponents or England. A mate of mine fell out with me during Englands semi final in the world cup when I told him id backed Croatia back in march at 40-1 £50. He called me a traitor for backing against England. I couldnt get through to him that id not. I was gutted when England lost that game, the bet though softened it a little. If there is value to be had on any event involving my team i have to take it weather its for or against, but at the end of the day i still want rovers to win. In the long run the variables balance themselves out.                                                             
                                                                                                                                                    A couple of bets ill highlight which i had on involving Rovers are, Division 3 title wining team in 2004, were 10-1 at xmas when we were top of the league, to win it. Also i had us at 16-1 to be relegated after we beat Leeds 2-1 at Elland road, with our daunting fixture list we had left. Again like England i was gutted when we went down, even though i made £800 on it.

The most recent bet i had was £30 on the draw at 14-1 when we 3-1 up against Cheltenham. It didnt win of course but they nearly scored and yet i was nervous as hell in the last 5 mins hoping we wouldnt concede.

Its what i do some people as i say dont approve, im just taking advantage of my inside knowledge of Rovers like we all can. Doesnt make me a traitor its merely a side show.

Finally although i didnt back it i thought 5-2 on Rovers to win yesterday was a great price, but even i underestimated how bad we are at the moment.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 05, 2021, 05:13:08 pm
Couldn’t agree more Perez. The absolute knocking bet for yesterday was rovers to lose after going one up. Which the odds would have been somewhat attractive for i guess.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 05, 2021, 05:18:51 pm
Couldn’t agree more Perez. The absolute knocking bet for yesterday was rovers to lose after going one up. Which the odds would have been somewhat attractive for i guess.

Under Wellens maybe but i expected better yesterday. We were never in the game after we'd scored and so maybe an example of it being beneficial to put a bet on in play when you are actually at the game. Straight from the resumption of the 2nd half it was clear we would lose that game.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Draytonian III on December 05, 2021, 05:24:53 pm
If you’re going to back Rovers to loose state on your slip that there will be 2 goals or more in the game, you’ll get a lot better odds and most of the defeats have been by this
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Prez on December 05, 2021, 05:40:58 pm
Couldn’t agree more Perez. The absolute knocking bet for yesterday was rovers to lose after going one up. Which the odds would have been somewhat attractive for i guess.

Mansfield were just under 11/2 to win when it was half time on the betfair exchange,
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: drfchound on December 05, 2021, 05:50:33 pm
Couldn’t agree more Perez. The absolute knocking bet for yesterday was rovers to lose after going one up. Which the odds would have been somewhat attractive for i guess.

Under Wellens maybe but i expected better yesterday. We were never in the game after we'd scored and so maybe an example of it being beneficial to put a bet on in play when you are actually at the game. Straight from the resumption of the 2nd half it was clear we would lose that game.

I can’t agree that we weren’t in th the game after we scored yesterday.
As I recall we had a decent first half and it wouldn’t have been unthinkable that we might have increased our lead before the break.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: GazLaz on December 05, 2021, 06:05:33 pm
Oxford should be about 4/6 to win. That’s presuming Galbraith is the only man to return to the squad and we play the same team swapping him for Ravenhill.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 05, 2021, 06:14:22 pm
Couldn’t agree more Perez. The absolute knocking bet for yesterday was rovers to lose after going one up. Which the odds would have been somewhat attractive for i guess.

Under Wellens maybe but i expected better yesterday. We were never in the game after we'd scored and so maybe an example of it being beneficial to put a bet on in play when you are actually at the game. Straight from the resumption of the 2nd half it was clear we would lose that game.

I can’t agree that we weren’t in th the game after we scored yesterday.
As I recall we had a decent first half and it wouldn’t have been unthinkable that we might have increased our lead before the break.

I fail to see how we had a decent first half after the goal. We go a goal up in the first 10 at home against a L2 side and then that was it. We did not create anything first half or for most of the second, other than the goal. It was a really poor game - both halves IMO.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 05, 2021, 08:57:49 pm
On a betting theme. Can anyone remember the name of the bookies next to the York Bar before it became Mark Jarvis? I grew up in the bloody place and been wracking my brains to remember what it was called before.

Sure it would bring back memories.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: scawsby steve on December 05, 2021, 09:05:04 pm
On a betting theme. Can anyone remember the name of the bookies next to the York Bar before it became Mark Jarvis? I grew up in the bloody place and been wracking my brains to remember what it was called before.

Sure it would bring back memories.

I can't remember either, CDH, but I can confirm that the York Bar is still full of horse racing mad members. They even have bus trips to race meetings all over the country.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 05, 2021, 09:08:50 pm
On a betting theme. Can anyone remember the name of the bookies next to the York Bar before it became Mark Jarvis? I grew up in the bloody place and been wracking my brains to remember what it was called before.

Sure it would bring back memories.

I can't remember either, CDH, but I can confirm that the York Bar is still full of horse racing mad members. They even have bus trips to race meetings all over the country.

Ah great. York Bar to be run by one of my dads friends in the 90's.  Bloke called Alan. My dad used to go in there a lot. Not me though. When i was younger it was seen as a bit more for older people. Not sure they had a footy team though which is why i ended up playing for the Sun Inn.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 06, 2021, 11:10:56 pm
8/11 now Oxford on Skybet

We are 7/2
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on December 07, 2021, 12:12:41 am
Just stuck £100 on an Oxford win, easy money at the moment and lessens the pain of defeat
Only ever once bet against the Rovers. When we played away at top of the table Norwich just after we'd lost 0-6 at home to Ipswich. Absolutely stuck on £100 at 1/4.

We got a draw with an 83rd minute own goal...

Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on December 07, 2021, 03:22:51 am
We have a better home record ,than their away record. The value bet for me is Rovers. Yes we have been terrible, but on Saturday we found the net twice ,which would usually be a win if your defending is decent, admittedly against side in the league below. We do ok usually against Oxford, a 3-2 win for us in the past against them. I see  3-2 win for us. So both teams to score is the best value in my opinion.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: The Beast on December 07, 2021, 04:25:43 am
Shrewsbury look quite attractive at 29/20 on Saturday, drew with Sunderland, beat Charlton, then won at Carlisle in the cup. We did sign their best player in the summer though.
 :chair:
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: tommy toes on December 07, 2021, 08:19:48 am
Rovers now over 4/1 on Betfair.
Oxford 4/6.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 07, 2021, 09:15:52 am
Rovers now over 4/1 on Betfair.
Oxford 4/6.

I wonder if the bookies know we are deploying our secret weapons?
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Campsall rover on December 07, 2021, 09:39:51 am
Bogle is coming off the bench tonight and is going to score a 93rd min winner.

You heard it hear first.  Right I will go fetch my coat.  Someone order the green van for me.   :chair:

What odds though?  ;)
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 07, 2021, 09:45:54 am
Rovers now over 4/1 on Betfair.
Oxford 4/6.

Don't know why but i'm going to stick £20 on us to win at 4/1. According to the Oxford forum, their side looks tired and they have absentees so maybe the weather will be a leveller and we can nick this. Yes we're shit, but our home form isn't bad.

Come on the lads!! £100 quid winnings here we come!!  :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 07, 2021, 09:59:51 am
Sorry to be pedantic, but if that bet comes in it’s £80 winnings and stake back. Total £100.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 07, 2021, 10:00:54 am
Sorry to be pedantic, but if that bet comes in it’s £80 winnings and stake back. Total £100.

Yep. Sorry, NR. Meant £100 in total back so you are right, £80 winnings.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Prez on December 07, 2021, 12:43:40 pm
Rovers nearly 5/1 now. Oxford now under 8/11. I expect Oxford will shorten even further, possibly to 8/13. Good news for those who took them at evens.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 07, 2021, 12:54:20 pm
Rovers nearly 5/1 now. Oxford now under 8/11. I expect Oxford will shorten even further, possibly to 8/13. Good news for those who took them at evens.

If they win, yes.  ;) :scarf:
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 07, 2021, 02:04:55 pm
Rovers nearly 5/1 now. Oxford now under 8/11. I expect Oxford will shorten even further, possibly to 8/13. Good news for those who took them at evens.

Goodness me. There must be some serious dough going on Oxford, and conversely, no one backing rovers .
In a lge one, two horse race, 5/1 is ridiculous for a home side. That’s fa cup odds against a championship squad.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 07, 2021, 02:17:40 pm
Fans on the OU forum saying mostly that nothing but a win is acceptable. A few saying that they can see them getting done with a scrappy goal. Any goal would do!

Not gonna be a pretty night conditions wise so concerned about our willingness to be up for that and up for a battle, especially with some of the younger, more inexperienced lads who might feature this evening.

Can see us either nicking this in a tight game but conversely, can also see us getting absolutely mullered about 4 or 5 nil.

Just took the 9/2 currently on Skybet and bet £25 for us to win.

Dead money.  :crying:
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 07, 2021, 02:18:44 pm
What’s the rain situation like in donny?
Still hoping for an abandonment .
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 07, 2021, 02:19:52 pm
What’s the rain situation like in donny?
Still hoping for an abandonment .

Forecast says that rain will stop early tonight and just be fecking freezing and 40mph winds. I'm in the midlands though so be great to hear from anyone in Donny.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: GazLaz on December 07, 2021, 02:41:20 pm
Rovers nearly 5/1 now. Oxford now under 8/11. I expect Oxford will shorten even further, possibly to 8/13. Good news for those who took them at evens.

Goodness me. There must be some serious dough going on Oxford, and conversely, no one backing rovers .
In a lge one, two horse race, 5/1 is ridiculous for a home side. That’s fa cup odds against a championship squad.

There are not two possible outcomes, there are three.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 07, 2021, 02:48:43 pm
Rovers nearly 5/1 now. Oxford now under 8/11. I expect Oxford will shorten even further, possibly to 8/13. Good news for those who took them at evens.

Goodness me. There must be some serious dough going on Oxford, and conversely, no one backing rovers .
In a lge one, two horse race, 5/1 is ridiculous for a home side. That’s fa cup odds against a championship squad.

There are not two possible outcomes, there are three.

Of course. But the money appears to be going all one way. Of 8nyerest , 8 haven’t seen the draw odds. I tend to shy away from a draw.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 07, 2021, 02:53:44 pm
Draw is 3/1 with Skybet so very decent indeed. A draw would be ok so long as we beat Shrewsbury on saturday but we need to win this game tonight. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ravenrover on December 07, 2021, 05:24:02 pm
What’s the rain situation like in donny?
Still hoping for an abandonment .

Forecast says that rain will stop early tonight and just be fecking freezing and 40mph winds. I'm in the midlands though so be great to hear from anyone in Donny.
Likewise, there is hardly a breath of wind at the moment here in Notts and where is this torrential rain we were told about? Got a bit blustery and a little rain about 2.00 Based on the forcast I decided not to make the trip up to Donny, much to my wifes relief but I will be really pissed off if this is the worst we are going to get
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: normal rules on December 07, 2021, 09:41:14 pm
I should be comforted that my away win and both teams to score bet is up.
I’m not.
Genuine promise in that second half. Hammer blow winner.
Gutted.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 07, 2021, 11:10:56 pm
Any side we play now home or away lump on. Never been an easier way to make money. We are shite.
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Filo on December 07, 2021, 11:22:46 pm
Any side we play now home or away lump on. Never been an easier way to make money. We are shite.

Well my £100 bet come in, got my £100 back in my bank left £100 in my betting account and just put £50 on Shrewsbury to win at 6/4
Title: Re: Odds for the Oxford game.
Post by: Prez on December 07, 2021, 11:24:55 pm
Oxford went off at 4/7 a huge drop in price from even money as first quoted from the bookies.