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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: normal rules on December 16, 2021, 04:33:48 pm
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I was a little taken aback by stats I’ve just read in the free press. As of November the EFL have said that one quarter of all players in the EFL have no intention of getting vaccinated.
Wow.
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People who have choice do not always go the way you seem to want. They do not follow orders blindly
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It is counter productive because for players and staff who don't get the vaccine I'm not a total expert but if a certain portion of the public don't get it which contributes to the spread then will lead to games behind closed doors. Equals clubs folding. Equals no wages for players who won't get it.
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I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
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Nudga. Really
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I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
Snowflakes.
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Listening to 5 live now who are talking about it. Liverpool claim to have near 100% jabbed. Chelsea have nAmed their players that are positive .
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I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
What, like the last one you mentioned. Leave it out
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I emailed Liam Hoden earlier tonight. I wondered if he would ask someone at the club, the next time he gets the opportunity , how many rovers players are not vax. He has replied saying he has been asking the question for a while, but he keeps getting batted off. He has said he will ask the new manager.
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What business is it of yours NR out of interest?
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I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
What, like the last one you mentioned. Leave it out
Which one? Martin Terrier?
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I emailed Liam Hoden earlier tonight. I wondered if he would ask someone at the club, the next time he gets the opportunity , how many rovers players are not vax. He has replied saying he has been asking the question for a while, but he keeps getting batted off. He has said he will ask the new manager.
When was the last time your missus had a smear test NR?
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She has one every year.
Has done for the last 12
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We are being led to believe that not being vaccinated is ok. It’s a choice . A human right . And nothing to be ashamed of. Apparently.
So why not say ? Why not “come out”?
Unvaccinated lives matter perhaps anyone?
ULM.
You heard it here first.
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We are being led to believe that not being vaccinated is ok. It’s a choice . A human right . And nothing to be ashamed of. Apparently.
So why not say ? Why not “come out”?
Unvaccinated lives matter perhaps anyone?
ULM.
You heard it here first.
It isn’t anything to be ashamed of
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What business is it of yours NR out of interest?
Think of it as a stat Ldr, NR is not asking for names, we have stats for everything else?
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.
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A lot has been written about Bayern Munich and COVID in recent weeks, and now Bild is reporting who the five unvaccinated first team players at the club are. They also have news on the consequences being handed down from the club as a result of those decisions. According to Bild, Bayern did not want to comment on the report.
The five unvaccinated players are: Eric Maxim Chopuo-Moting, Michael Cuisance, Serge Gnabry, Joshua Kimmich, and Jamal Musiala.
The day before Friday’s loss against Augsburg, those players were summoned to Säbener Straße for a meeting with Bayern’s bosses. Once there, the players were told that while it is their right to not get the vaccine, but that they should think about the club as well. The players were also told of the following consequences:
No salary while quarantined
Beginning November 1, the city of Munich made it so employees are not entitled to their salary from to a quarantine due to their unvaccinated status. Fed up with players missing time, Bayern will no longer be paying the salary of unvaccinated players while they’re quarantined.
Kimmich, Gnabry, Musiala, and Choupo-Moting were informed that they would not be paid for the time they were quarantined this month. Cuisance has not been quarantined, so he will be paid his regular salary.
For Kimmich, due to his enormous salary, this means a loss of roughly €768,000 in the last two weeks.
Possibility of isolated training
Nothing is being ruled out including the unvaccinated players being isolated from the rest of the team during training. The five were surprised at this announcement, but it is reportedly being met with approval from the rest of the team.
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them have had any jabs.
75% of efl are jabbed or intending to be .You can’t tell me they are all in their 30’s.
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them have had any jabs.
75% of efl are jabbed or intending to be .You can’t tell me they are all in their 30’s.
I'm not talking about the jabbed, I'm talking about the unjabbed, and the possible reason for it.
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People who have choice do not always go the way you seem to want. They do not follow orders blindly
We’ve not been ordered to have a vaccine. What business is it of yours NR out of interest?
Albeit a small vote, with 93% on here so far who have cast theirs, and declared their status as vaccinated, I believe it’s in the interests of supporters of a football club if it’s players have taken on the responsibility to themselves, their fellow players and the club to get vaccinated or not. I believe it is now in the public interest.
Don’t take my word for it though.
There is an article in the Times that a blame culture is appearing towards players who are unvaccinated contributing to games being cancelled.
It will never be proven perhaps, but if the rovers players who have tested positive were un vaccinated, then their inactions may, and I accept this may be a stretch, be the sole reason why rovers are not playing this weekend.
You only have to look at the Bayern Munich Model to see where this is going.
These players are paid huge sums of money. They get told how to train, what to drink, what to eat, how to exercise. How to keep in shape , fit and healthy. They are afforded the very best treatment money can buy if they pull a muscle of tear a tendon. They are a very expensive asset. There is an argument They should be held accountable for their inactions in this regard and I am seeing a picture emerging that being vaccinated will fall into that arena.
I can also see unvaccinated players becoming less valuable in future the longer covid goes on.
And so, on a much smaller scale, at TLOD. I’d like to know how many players we have who choose not to be vaccinated. Not names, just numbers.
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I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
Contracting covid can cause acute myocardial injury, maybe these players you refer to have had covid unknowingly and its not the vaccine as you claim
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I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
Contracting covid can cause acute myocardial injury, maybe these players you refer to have had covid unknowingly and its not the vaccine as you claim
We'll never know either way Filo. I can only surmise because of my once healthy 36 year customer who got pericarditis after his first jab. Yes, it was diagnosed as a vaccine injury.
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There's likely a bunch of snowflakes with a fear of needles too :)
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People argue it’s their right to not be vaccinated and there seems to be a reluctance to enforce it for the greater good
We enforce seat belts. We don’t pansy and phones about saying we advise you it’s a good idea to wear one but if you don’t it doesn’t matter
We enforce all types of things such as car insurance car MOT drink driving and many other things. We all know it’s right and for the benefit of others. We don’t offer advice but leave it for people to choose
The way to get players to get vaccinated is for supporters to boycott matches where both squads are not vaccinated or the clubs refuse to disclose who is
When crowds stop attending and it affects their income the clubs might become more responsible
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We can't have I'd for voting thou as it's against human right, snowflakes
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How many who voted on this want players vaccinated for the benefit of the player’s or just so their Saturday isn’t interrupted?
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I want players vaccinated for health reasons primarily, but a close second is for games not to be cancelled.
This will affect clubs with loss of income stream. And if it were to go on long enough, it could cost some clubs their very existence. The govt are not stepping in with financial support any more.
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And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.
Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.
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And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.
What might be a sore throat for you and /or for more healthier people may be somewhat more life-threatening for people like my 93year old mother Nudga.
Everyone’s different and will react to viruses / threats to health in different ways.
I sincerely hope that omicron is less dangerous, but not going to refuse being vaccinated just to prove that point, or even risk putting my mother in hospital or even worse a coffin.
Cheers
BVB
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So her vaccines don't work then?
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And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.
What might be a sore throat for you and /or for more healthier people may be somewhat more life-threatening for people like my 93year old mother Nudga.
Everyone’s different and will react to viruses / threats to health in different ways.
I sincerely hope that omicron is less dangerous, but not going to refuse being vaccinated just to prove that point, or even risk putting my mother in hospital or even worse a coffin.
Cheers
BVB
The trouble is people like that think they are knowledgeable on the topic in conversation but in reality they don't know a thing about it but claim to be a so called expert
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If you mean has she caught covid and her vaccines have reduced the potential for her becoming ill, then I don’t know as luckily so far she has not become infected.
She wants to know when she can have her 4th jab, as she is very worried. But hey, you can ridicule her for being “sh*t scared”.
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And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.
What might be a sore throat for you and /or for more healthier people may be somewhat more life-threatening for people like my 93year old mother Nudga.
Everyone’s different and will react to viruses / threats to health in different ways.
I sincerely hope that omicron is less dangerous, but not going to refuse being vaccinated just to prove that point, or even risk putting my mother in hospital or even worse a coffin.
Cheers
BVB
The trouble is people like that think they are knowledgeable on the topic in conversation but in reality they don't know a thing about it but claim to be a so called expert
That me or Nudga, 91?
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And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.
What might be a sore throat for you and /or for more healthier people may be somewhat more life-threatening for people like my 93year old mother Nudga.
Everyone’s different and will react to viruses / threats to health in different ways.
I sincerely hope that omicron is less dangerous, but not going to refuse being vaccinated just to prove that point, or even risk putting my mother in hospital or even worse a coffin.
Cheers
BVB
The trouble is people like that think they are knowledgeable on the topic in conversation but in reality they don't know a thing about it but claim to be a so called expert
That me or Nudga, 91?
Sorry the person you was responding to (Nudga)
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Please, show me where I've claimed I'm an expert.
I'm no more of an expert than you are.
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Draytonian, on another thread:
''Going for my booster tomorrow, if it meant me and mine being safer than others I would go every week''
I with you Drayton, bravado doesn't come into it, just remember if you have a choice those interviewed in hospital on their death beds.
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Draytonian, on another thread:
''Going for my booster tomorrow, if it meant me and mine being safer than others I would go every week''
I with you Drayton, bravado doesn't come into it, just remember if you have a choice those interviewed in hospital on their death beds.
What does that even mean.
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How many who voted on this want players vaccinated for the benefit of the player’s or just so their Saturday isn’t interrupted?
Why should the fans care about the players, when many players clearly don't have a problem spreading covid amongst the older and more vulnerable in the general population by not being vaccinated?
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I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
Such as who? Fleck, Eriksen and Wyke were all unvaccinated.
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.
Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.
You must attract them.
The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.
Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.
You must attract them.
The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.
Well there's plenty of them out there. The worst one is out every weekend. Having a laugh today about his dad being taken to hospital because he couldn't breathe, maybe he should have had a jab?
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Sounds like that lad needs more than just a jab
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.
Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.
You must attract them.
The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.
Unless you live in an alternative universe, that is utter b*ll*cks. Are you suggesting that all these young players are older guys?
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I'm talking about people I personally know.
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I'm talking about people I personally know.
I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?
Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?
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I'm talking about people I personally know.
I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?
Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?
Think you do young people a disservice there Scawsby. I would suggest that the vast majority of youngsters are not illegal ravers etc and actually have a sense of responsibility that would shame a lot of older people.
But I would agree that most old people are worried about the virus and want to get jabbed.
Happy to stand corrected by anyone wanting to chuck some data in to the contrary.
Cheers
BVB
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I'm talking about people I personally know.
I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?
Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?
Think you do young people a disservice there Scawsby. I would suggest that the vast majority of youngsters are not illegal ravers etc and actually have a sense of responsibility that would shame a lot of older people.
But I would agree that most old people are worried about the virus and want to get jabbed.
Happy to stand corrected by anyone wanting to chuck some data in to the contrary.
Cheers
BVB
I can't quite see your logic there, BVB. Here we have a thread criticising YOUNG footballers for not getting jabbed, yet you're saying that I'm doing young people a disservice.
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I'm talking about people I personally know.
I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?
Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?
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I was talking about people I know. I wasn't drawing any wider conclusions.
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I'm talking about people I personally know.
I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?
Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?
Think you do young people a disservice there Scawsby. I would suggest that the vast majority of youngsters are not illegal ravers etc and actually have a sense of responsibility that would shame a lot of older people.
But I would agree that most old people are worried about the virus and want to get jabbed.
Happy to stand corrected by anyone wanting to chuck some data in to the contrary.
Cheers
BVB
I can't quite see your logic there, BVB. Here we have a thread criticising YOUNG footballers for not getting jabbed, yet you're saying that I'm doing young people a disservice.
Sorry Scawsby - was just replying specifically to your comment about young illegal ravers etc. rather than the young footballers thing so apologies for mixing the two.
You would hope that football clubs - being communities in themselves and with a lot to lose (as shown by this week’s cancellations) would have been working hard with those younger players who either can’t/won’t see the need to be jabbed, and get them to list the positive and negative consequences of their choice within the football club/community in which they work.
As they say, there’s no “i” in “team”, and that concept should be rammed home to them in relation to the current situation.
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.
Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.
You must attract them.
The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.
In my experience I have to back AL’s claim, last night was Mad Friday, I worked, and nearly every young person I went to pick up tried getting into a car without a mask or face covering, and I had many arguments with them, AL is correct, most of them don’t give a toss
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The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.
I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.
Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.
You must attract them.
The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.
In my experience I have to back AL’s claim, last night was Mad Friday, I worked, and nearly every young person I went to pick up tried getting into a car without a mask or face covering, and I had many arguments with them, AL is correct, most of them don’t give a toss
I don't think you can compare people out on the piss on a Friday night to the entire young population of Britain.
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Is this about footballers having the jab or their behaviour? It's probable that vaccinated players have caught the virus whilst unvaccinted players might not have.
Entirely feasible that an unvaccinated player follows the guidance by limiting his social contacts etc and remain covid free. Conversely, a vaccinated player might go out on the lash, catch a dose and bring it back into the group.
There are so many unknowns about the virus, how it's transmitted and how it affects people differently, so I think it's difficult to enforce a compulsory jab or consequences for not taking the jab.
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it
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Is this about footballers having the jab or their behaviour? It's probable that vaccinated players have caught the virus whilst unvaccinted players might not have.
Entirely feasible that an unvaccinated player follows the guidance by limiting his social contacts etc and remain covid free. Conversely, a vaccinated player might go out on the lash, catch a dose and bring it back into the group.
There are so many unknowns about the virus, how it's transmitted and how it affects people differently, so I think it's difficult to enforce a compulsory jab or consequences for not taking the jab.
I think it’s transmitted by word of mouth …..lol
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I'm talking about people I personally know.
I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?
Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?
Think you do young people a disservice there Scawsby. I would suggest that the vast majority of youngsters are not illegal ravers etc and actually have a sense of responsibility that would shame a lot of older people.
But I would agree that most old people are worried about the virus and want to get jabbed.
Happy to stand corrected by anyone wanting to chuck some data in to the contrary.
Cheers
BVB
Unfortunately the only data available is the governments and that is designed to suit their particular agenda depending on what day it is !
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it
So your jabs don't work and you'll have to mask up for the rest of your life.
Each to their own but I can't live like that.
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
So what would you have advised..? Genuine question
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it
So your jabs don't work and you'll have to mask up for the rest of your life.
Each to their own but I can't live like that.
I’d rather take advice from the experts than a conspiricy theorist, if you don’t mind
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If you are afforded the luxury of working from home, in order to suppress the spread of this virus, then why would you go to the pub? Where there are little or no measures in place to prevent infection.
I would advise giving it a miss for now. Certainly up to and including Xmas.
The bloke has a family he lives with and friends that he had planned to come and spend Xmas with him.
It was not until I pointed out that if he caught it, he would have to isolate and his Xmas plans would be up the spout.
Only then did the penny drop.
Looking at the various news threads and the story in London that a major incident has been declared today, it’s looking highly likely that a two week lockdown will be imposed after Xmas. Possibly even before. So all this will be immaterial.
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If you are afforded the luxury of working from home, in order to suppress the spread of this virus, then why would you go to the pub? Where there are little or no measures in place to prevent infection.
I would advise giving it a miss for now. Certainly up to and including Xmas.
The bloke has a family he lives with and friends that he had planned to come and spend Xmas with him.
It was not until I pointed out that if he caught it, he would have to isolate and his Xmas plans would be up the spout.
Only then did the penny drop.
Looking at the various news threads and the story in London that a major incident has been declared today, it’s looking highly likely that a two week lockdown will be imposed after Xmas. Possibly even before. So all this will be immaterial.
Not a chance before, the idiot in No. 10 will not have that
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That could be the final nail in his coffin.
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it
So your jabs don't work and you'll have to mask up for the rest of your life.
Each to their own but I can't live like that.
I’d rather take advice from the experts than a conspiricy theorist, if you don’t mind
f**kin running out of them though eh.
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it
So your jabs don't work and you'll have to mask up for the rest of your life.
Each to their own but I can't live like that.
Nudga - what exactly is the “work”’of a jab?
Just wondering.
BVB
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it
So your jabs don't work and you'll have to mask up for the rest of your life.
Each to their own but I can't live like that.
Nudga - what exactly is the “work”’of a jab?
Just wondering.
BVB
I'm wondering too, because up to now, I can't see evidence of them doing anything; and yes, I've had mine, for what f*cking good they are.
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You had covid then Scawsby?
Serious q.
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You had covid then Scawsby?
Serious q.
I reckon I had it early on, before tests were being done, but obviously I can't be sure. All the household seemed to have it a couple of months ago. I did a LFT, and it was negative, but apparently they're not reliable.
Put it this way, all of us have lost most of our sense of smell since. I can't see flu doing that.
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That’s a long time to have no smell - could be long covid then?
I had a couple of mates who were well rough with persistent hacking cough back end of 2019 - I reckon covid was in the country weeks before officialdom said it was.
LFTs apparently can give unreliable results when compared to PCR - I got rough after my booster 3 weeks ago - done 6 LFT’s since all negative, and got a PCR to do now to see if there’s a difference.
Could just be a coincidental cold, but can’t take anything for granted. If the PCR comes back positive then should I be annoyed that jabs didn’t stop it or pleased that jabs mean I didn’t get it worse than I otherwise would have.
Hard to tell.
Anyway, hope you and your folks get your sense of smell back soon.
Cheers
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I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.
People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it
So your jabs don't work and you'll have to mask up for the rest of your life.
Each to their own but I can't live like that.
Nudga - what exactly is the “work”’of a jab?
Just wondering.
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I'm wondering too, because up to now, I can't see evidence of them doing anything; and yes, I've had mine, for what f*cking good they are.
The f**king good they are is that they reduced the number of people killed per 1000 positive tests from about 25 to about 4. They reduced the number of hospital admissions per 1000 positive tests from about 80 to about 15.
The problems now are that over 6 months or so, the vaccines lose effect, and we have a new variant that can exploit that.
The vaccines aren't, and never were silver bullets. They just stack the odds massively in your favour.
Your take is like saying some people die in car crashes even though they are wearing seat belts, so what f**king good are seat belts?
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Going back to the OP, why should footballers be an example of normal people? They're generally as thick as pig shit.
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''‘It’s too late’: US doctor says dying patients begging for Covid vaccine
22/07/2021
''At least 99% of those in US who died of Covid in the last six months had not been vaccinated, says CDC director Dr Rochelle Walensky''
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/22/us-coronavirus-covid-unvaccinated-hospital-rates-vaccines
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Going back to the OP, why should footballers be an example of normal people? They're generally as thick as pig shit.
You have a point.
And if they follow the likes of June Slater on fb, they are fecked.
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In the Bundesliga more than 90%, Italy approximatly 98% and Spain under 1 in 10 according to Talksport.
70 non-vaccinated/30 vaccinated ratio in DRI and Bassetlaw as well takin up very important ICU beds.
And you guessed it no postponements.
The only way out of this is the vaccine if not we will just keep hopping in and out of restrictions all the time.