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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Copps is Magic on December 27, 2021, 11:34:21 am
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Let's just say this will be one of the biggest results in the club's modern history if we can get any points today.
Either genius, madness or desperation.
https://twitter.com/liamhoden/status/1475428770286915584
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Big defeat incoming, on national TV
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"Injury ravaged"
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That's probably a pretty good reflection of the situation we find ourselves in at the moment .
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Chance for the young lads to stand up and be counted in front of the cameras will be very difficult but not impossible
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"Injury ravaged"
And Tuchel at Chelsea whines like f**k about it with a squad of 40+ players!
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For the time being it’s the best we can do.
Probably a game we will struggle to get any points from and points are in short supply, but our season does not hinge on this one game.
Hopefully the new manager is in favour of the players who the club have identified for the transfer window, and we can get them in quickly, as well as players coming back from injury.
Not too much point dwelling on today.
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Very little experience, but no fear in the young guys. I think Sunderland might get a surprise here.
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This could end up 6-0 I’m afraid and it’s not fair on young lads
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Let's just say this will be one of the biggest results in the club's modern history if we can get any points today.
Either genius, madness or desperation.
https://twitter.com/liamhoden/status/1475428770286915584
He’s playing the only players he has available. It is what it is. There are no other options.
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Galbraith, Covid or going back to Man Utd?
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Think it will be more of a 5-4-1 trying to play on the counter
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Why the f*ck haven't we postponed it?
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Why the f*ck haven't we postponed it?
Sky money probably
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Galbraith, Covid or going back to Man Utd?
Galbraith, Covid or going back to Man Utd?
Suspended isn’t he?
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Yes the club will want the money to assist with finances for incoming players and staff. Postpone and it wouldn’t TV when we play
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A well-run, reasonably funded club should not have to do that.
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It’s unavoidable but you can write the script now. Lot of energy and effort in first 10 minutes. First set piece, they score. All over by half time. Final score 4-0. Zero shots on goal.
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4 to 1 for Black Cat win and at least 5 goals
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Why the f*ck haven't we postponed it?
On what grounds.?
If we have sufficient eligible players we have to play, surely?
It’s not as if our youth players have played too many games recently like Bolton claimed that time..
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Why the f*ck haven't we postponed it?
On what grounds.?
If we have sufficient eligible players we have to play, surely?
It’s not as if our youth players have played too many games recently like Bolton claimed that time..
As I said on here before, IDM, the EFL couldn't punish us heavily as they set their own precedent when giving Bolton a lenient slap on the wrist.
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I'll settle for single figures
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Why the f*ck haven't we postponed it?
On what grounds.?
If we have sufficient eligible players we have to play, surely?
It’s not as if our youth players have played too many games recently like Bolton claimed that time..
As I said on here before, IDM, the EFL couldn't punish us heavily as they set their own precedent when giving Bolton a lenient slap on the wrist.
Steve as I’ve said the club wouldn’t postponed the game they would have lost the TV money.
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I’ve added us too my acca at 8-1. Miracles do happen. Allegedly
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I've done a BST and taken 4 to 1 for SAFC win and at least 5 goals to be scored
That should ensure under 5 goals .,.. 3 1 to them I expect
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A well-run, reasonably funded club should not have to do that.
So half the premiership are badly run because they rely on telly money?
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Doesn’t look a bad crowd
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Obviously
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"Doncaster in the all-red stirp". So much for keeping the hoops identity!
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lest we forget Mansfield beat Slumberland 1-0 away in the cup
at least we scored twice against them something they didn't
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This is painful again
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Commentators bumming arse off Sunderland
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Is it just me that thinks it was a soft penalty, not much contact and he fell very easily?
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It was a poor tackle that gave the ref no
Choice
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It be was a penalty. The most ineffective starting 11’s I think we’ve seen this century
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A reason why the new manager hasn’t been announced. Start with an easier fixture.
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It was a poor tackle that gave the ref no
Choice
'Tackle' assumes some sort of contact. I couldn't see any.
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That division below has activated its gravitational pull…..more power Scotty, more power!!
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Painful to watch. Men vs boys literally. League 2 here we come
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We just don't no how to pass or put a decent tackle, looks like there scared to put there foot in
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I know people have hiveminded McSheffrey into the job, but he's set us up here with massive gaps all over the pitch. Shape is the only thing we possibly could have done.
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Was that a pen?? Didn’t look any contact from where I was sat
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And now the co-commentater thinks that taking a player out to get to the ball is 'a good tackle'. A Sunderland tackle, naturally.
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Hiwula atrocious first touch.
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How many league games have Jones, Horton, Ravenhill, Hasani, Blythe and Olowu played between them?
The midfield 4 of Hasani, Ravenhill, Smith and Horton is so young and inexperienced
Circumstances dictating team selection. Just Anderson and Galbraith (effects of COVID according to Sky) would add a leader ath the back and some quality in midfield.
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Marginal but from the referee’s angle it looked very much like one. I think it was a pen. We’d have been claiming and fuming if we hadn’t got it.
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The worst front 2 we have had in the last 20 years. We recommend these?
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Jesus Christ, having an opponent pulling the shirt off your back is now 'buying a foul'. FFS.
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Let’s be optimistic in how we see this. This game was always likely to be a defeat and so it’s a free hit for a promising set of young lads who may not get a game in a couple of weeks if the new players come in. I’m heartened to see some of these names coming through. They may not be ready but by playing games like this, they have more chance of becoming ready.
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We aren’t even competing. It’s unforgivable how shit we have become
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Let’s be optimistic in how we see this. This game was always likely to be a defeat and so it’s a free hit for a promising set of young lads who may not get a game in a couple of weeks if the new players come in. I’m heartened to see some of these names coming through. They may not be ready but by playing games like this, they have more chance of becoming ready.
Not ready? They are nowhere good enough for this level
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Hiwula atrocious first touch.
bone idle n all. Can’t stand him.
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Let’s be optimistic in how we see this. This game was always likely to be a defeat and so it’s a free hit for a promising set of young lads who may not get a game in a couple of weeks if the new players come in. I’m heartened to see some of these names coming through. They may not be ready but by playing games like this, they have more chance of becoming ready.
Not ready? They are nowhere good enough for this level
More about them than some of the so-called established players in the squad.
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How many league games have Jones, Horton, Ravenhill, Hasani, Blythe and Olowu played between them?
The midfield 4 of Hasani, Ravenhill, Smith and Horton is so young and inexperienced
Circumstances dictating team selection. Just Anderson and Galbraith (effects of COVID according to Sky) would add a leader ath the back and some quality in midfield.
they should be out on loan and at the start of the season we should have signed some players that look like they could compete
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I dont think we are playing that bad.
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Gary Mac said in last interview if he was manager he would only need a couple of signing to add to an already competitive squad pmsl , that statement alone probably got him the job if he gets it , god help us
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
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I dont think we are playing that bad.
For a very inexperienced team, I think they're doing well to keep it to 1-0 given the constant pressure they're under.
And I don't think it should have been a penalty too.
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
You’ve changed your tune in last 2 mins haha
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We’re staying in the game, if it stays like this we will get an opportunity to score.
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Please please do not let gm be our next manager
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
Would Okenabirhie, Taylor, John, Bostock, Anderson, Seaman, Galbraith count as any of those 8 or 9?
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I know people have hiveminded McSheffrey into the job, but he's set us up here with massive gaps all over the pitch. Shape is the only thing we possibly could have done.
Look at the 2nd goal.
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Game over
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Cant bare to watch Hiwula anymore.
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S..t, spoke too soon. Might as well give Bogle a run out at half time, get Barlow on as well.
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
Would Okenabirhie, Taylor, John, Bostock, Anderson, Seaman, Galbraith count as any of those 8 or 9?
What don’t u understand about new
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
Would Okenabirhie, Taylor, John, Bostock, Anderson, Seaman, Galbraith count as any of those 8 or 9?
no.
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Second half come on get some shots on goal, if you have to play ugly do it. Mix it up a bit, nothing to lose. Get some subs on.
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
Would Okenabirhie, Taylor, John, Bostock, Anderson, Seaman, Galbraith count as any of those 8 or 9?
What don’t u understand about new
I was being facetious.
How many players do we want. Those 7 would probably all make the starting 11. We need more than 2/3 but not as many as 8/9 IMHO. Give me 4 of real quality rather 8/9 not any better than those 7 and I will be happy.
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It’s men v boys and some boys out there are clueless
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The players he has available would struggle in the national League as a whole, not much more to say than that. There's only 2 or 3 out there today you'd want to be playing. Harsh but true.
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It's wrong to blame any of the individual young lads 1) They are only the product of the academy built by the club 2) they should never be thrown into a game like this 3) some of the 'senior' players are equally as bad.
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I feel sorry for G Mc. He’s done his best under very difficult circumstances and surely there is a position within the football management for him BUT I really hope he isn’t the one being appointed. We need an experienced new guy who can get the playing side by the scruff of the neck and sort the mess we are in. It won’t be easy but fingers crossed we at last make the right appointment.
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We’re staying in the game, if it stays like this we will get an opportunity to score.
only chance for us to score would be a penalty
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People are saying players he has available...
Well there is an experienced head on the bench in Gardner. I'm not his biggest fan but why would you have ravenhill in there to add to the inexperience when Gardner could be in there ( or Rowe in centre Nd Gardner out on left). It makes sense especially with loss of Anderson to get as much football experience on the pitch surely. I'd love to know GMs thinking on this
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
Would Okenabirhie, Taylor, John, Bostock, Anderson, Seaman, Galbraith count as any of those 8 or 9?
What don’t u understand about new
I was being facetious.
How many players do we want. Those 7 would probably all make the starting 11. We need more than 2/3 but not as many as 8/9 IMHO. Give me 4 of real quality rather 8/9 not any better than those 7 and I will be happy.
Agree with this.
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It must be an extremely tough watch for the Rovers faithful .
Difficult to see any positives to be honest .
I understand it's a make shift team out there and some of those young lads look totally lost .
The young lad who made the challenge for the Sunderland penalty just cried out of a lack of experience and the second goal too when everyone totally switched off .
The unfortunate thing is that Sunderland haven't had to do a right lot to lead 2-0 .
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People are saying players he has available...
Well there is an experienced head on the bench in Gardner. I'm not his biggest fan but why would you have ravenhill in there to add to the inexperience when Gardner could be in there ( or Rowe in centre Nd Gardner out on left). It makes sense especially with loss of Anderson to get as much football experience on the pitch surely. I'd love to know GMs thinking on this
you have seen Gardner play this season haven’t you??
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Agree with a few players back and a decent centre half defensive midfielder winger and forward we might just stay up if we can sign them 1 at week in January
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Have you seen gardener play before. He’s half as good as bogle. :rolleyes:
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it's been pretty dire...... I think Blythe and Olowu have done well and Horton and Smith have played OK. Rowe hasn't been in the game and the front two may as well get an early shower. I'd stick Barlow and Bogle on and see if we can play off them a bit...
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What a mess Wellens has created.
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People are saying players he has available...
Well there is an experienced head on the bench in Gardner. I'm not his biggest fan but why would you have ravenhill in there to add to the inexperience when Gardner could be in there ( or Rowe in centre Nd Gardner out on left). It makes sense especially with loss of Anderson to get as much football experience on the pitch surely. I'd love to know GMs thinking on this
you have seen Gardner play this season haven’t you??
A bit of nouse is better than a lightweight inexperienced 19yo, next to to other inexperienced youngsters.
Even disregarding what Gardner does with the ball (can't be much worse than what the rest are doing with it!) I would hope he would be adding in guidance and leadership, or even coaching the youngsters around him on shape and positioning
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Get Barlow and Gardner on give them an opportunity, nothing to lose.
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Not just him. The whole recruitment team need sacking as well if they have identified this shower of shite as being good enough for a mid table finish
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Erm...... Gardner is already on
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We need to build a team so this sort of thing never happens again. Three nil down at home.
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Not just him. The whole recruitment team need sacking as well if they have identified this shower of shite as being good enough for a mid table finish
The speed at which they've achieved this is astounding.
To transform an, admittedly overperforming, team who were sitting second midway through last season into one of the worst two teams in the division. That's truly going some that is.
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
Would Okenabirhie, Taylor, John, Bostock, Anderson, Seaman, Galbraith count as any of those 8 or 9?
What don’t u understand about new
I was being facetious.
How many players do we want. Those 7 would probably all make the starting 11. We need more than 2/3 but not as many as 8/9 IMHO. Give me 4 of real quality rather 8/9 not any better than those 7 and I will be happy.
Agree with this.
how many that have started today would start in your 1st 11
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Thought they were unlucky not to be awarded another penalty.
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In all honesty we need 8/9 new players
Would Okenabirhie, Taylor, John, Bostock, Anderson, Seaman, Galbraith count as any of those 8 or 9?
What don’t u understand about new
I was being facetious.
How many players do we want. Those 7 would probably all make the starting 11. We need more than 2/3 but not as many as 8/9 IMHO. Give me 4 of real quality rather 8/9 not any better than those 7 and I will be happy.
Agree with this.
how many that have started today would start in your 1st 11
Rowe, Olowu, Jones and possibly Knoyle
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It's difficult to say which area of the team is weakest currently. I really do feel for the young players having been thrown in when they're clearly not ready. It's only made harder for them when there's a complete lack of experience throughout the squad.
Dodoo and Hiwula contribute very little considering they're two of our more experienced players.
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Thought they were unlucky not to be awarded another penalty.
That was a stonewaller indeed
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How many would you be happy if they started on the bench. Thinking that they would change a game if they came on?
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Happy to see that Sunderland never really got into 4th gear because if they did it could have been a real thumping
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How is graham younger still in a job?
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I just hope some of these signings lined up have been done already and are ours for the Morcambe game. I am cofident we would lose every game in this league with this team.
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Happy to see that Sunderland never really got into 4th gear because if they did it could have been a real thumping
4th? They've not got into second. Never needed to.
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Happy to see that Sunderland never really got into 4th gear because if they did it could have been a real thumping
4th? They've not got into second. Never needed to.
true
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I wonder how today’s team would fair in the conference. It would certainly struggle in league 2
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Better second half, given as much as they can. It’s the ability of the other side that’s just much better than we are. This needs to be a game we look back on where we say, that’s where it got better.
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I wonder how today’s team would fair in the conference. It would certainly struggle in league 2
depends on what team it was, if the younger players were on the bench we might do ok
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10,751 attendance - shame that the performance wasn't great....
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Lot of anger on here today….. you are aware that Sunderland have a better squad, more funds and are sat in 2nd place……. and we have a boat load of injuries and issues….. it’s a no brainer to think we would lose today, sit back , chill out and enjoy the ride forcryingoutloud!
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Lot of anger on here today….. you are aware that Sunderland have a better squad, more funds and are sat in 2nd place……. and we have a boat load of injuries and issues….. it’s a no brainer to think we would lose today, sit back , chill out and enjoy the ride forcryingoutloud!
Spot on sha66y. We know we're shockingly bad this season with some bad signings, and then to have a million injuries/illnesses means there was only ever going to be one outcome today against a strong team playing at the top of their form.
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Lot of anger on here today….. you are aware that Sunderland have a better squad, more funds and are sat in 2nd place……. and we have a boat load of injuries and issues….. it’s a no brainer to think we would lose today, sit back , chill out and enjoy the ride forcryingoutloud!
I think you are misunderstanding people's sentiments. No one expected a win. It's the nature of not even being able compete, and the game literally looking like a cup game between a league one team and another at least two divisions below
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That and it's more about people continuing to express confusion, disbelief, and despair at how far the team have dropped from this time last year
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Plenty of young lads in that Sunderland team but the difference is they had the likes of Pritchard , Gooch , Flanagan and Bailey Wright around them who are all decent players at league one level , to be honest Pritchard is way way above league one level .
One hell of a job in January to recruit the players who can pull you to safety but not impossible either .
Getting players to come in January given the league position won't be easy either .
Some seasons you just know you aren't getting out of it and I feel the same with our lot and I suspect many of you have the same feeling too .
Sometimes the drop to a lower level can be the making of you and you come back with some momentum .
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Why the f*ck haven't we postponed it?
Money. I cynically pointed this out pre match. A game we could not afford to postpone.
Biggest gate receipt and in from of sky. They would have had the u17’s out if they had to.
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What a mess Wellens has created.
The mess started before RW
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Lot of anger on here today….. you are aware that Sunderland have a better squad, more funds and are sat in 2nd place……. and we have a boat load of injuries and issues….. it’s a no brainer to think we would lose today, sit back , chill out and enjoy the ride forcryingoutloud!
I agree Sha66y, you can’t compete with this Sunderland side with the current team and it showed today. You need to get the manager side sorted asap and hopefully bring in a bit of quality in the window, certainly up top where you just look bereft of threat. All that said, you don’t have to compete with the Sunderland’s, just pick up enough points from those around you. We’re only half way through the season so there’s still plenty of time to recover. As I’ve said on here before, we (Bolton) were 20th in L2 this time last year but after making 4 or 5 quality signings were a different team in the second half of the season. Keep chins up and I wish you the best for the remainder of the season, except against Wanderers of course!!
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If we 'played better' in the 2nd half it was like a faint in-print on snowy driveway, to use a Christmas metaphor.
Sunderland stopped playing, and by 10 minutes into the second half started taking their best players off to rest them.
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There is no way this Board will stump up for quality signings - that opportunity was in the summer!
We are clearly nowhere near league 1 standard.
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This thread topic is misleading.
As a noun “group of players forming one side in a competitive game or sport.”
Then I can agree with.
But as a verb, “come together as a team to achieve a common goal.
Then it’s a no no no.
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I just hope some of these signings lined up have been done already and are ours for the Morcambe game. I am cofident we would lose every game in this league with this team.
According to Liam he believes that new players cannot be registered till the 4th. He was checking
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How can we have players lined up when We don’t even have a manger appointed?
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Morecambe and Fleetwood are massive games for us. After that we have Wigan, MK Dons, Plymouth, Rotherham, Sunderland, Ipswich, Portsmouth and Wednesday.
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For how far depleted the team is Williams still can’t get on the pitch
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How can we have players lined up when We don’t even have a manger appointed?
Because we have a guy who's head of recruitment here?
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There is no way this Board will stump up for quality signings - that opportunity was in the summer!
We are clearly nowhere near league 1 standard.
It's getting players to come too Alan with the position you are in .
Not easy mate .
Interesting viewing for me with more than one eye on next season and the standard in league one .
Difficult to judge Sunderland on today's showing because with all due respect Rovers didn't lay a glove on em .
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I know we weren’t good today but everything went wrong at the wrong time
Conceded an early penalty and nearly held on to half time. Then conceded late in the half which basically finished the game
If we had gone in at 1 nil the second half may have been difficult.
Then to concede again in the first few minutes of the second.
At 3 nil down with a half still to play I thought at times we did ok. Obviously Sunderland were by far the better team but I didn’t think on that performance with some additional far better forward players and the likes of Anderson and Galbraith back that we are beyond saving
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There is no way this Board will stump up for quality signings - that opportunity was in the summer!
We are clearly nowhere near league 1 standard.
It's getting players to come too Alan with the position you are in .
Not easy mate .
Interesting viewing for me with more than one eye on next season and the standard in league one .
Difficult to judge Sunderland on today's showing because with all due respect Rovers didn't lay a glove on em .
Have a look at the team we put out. Barely any football league games amongst the lot of them.
I still question the mentality of some players. Dodoo and hiwula just jog around they have ability but don't show it. The defence has had zero protection all year so hard to judge them but the forward line is awful. Remember wellens saying hiwula and dodoo would make a big difference....
Overall it seems amazing how many are injured and you have to question just how so many can't get fit or seem to be unable to make a comeback. What's happening with Taylor for example?
There's a few players in there with ability most do not.
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Even if money was literally no option, of the quality players available, who would want to come to a team in decline. ?
The Griggs debacle has shown this as plain as day.
I fully expect to be utterly underwhelmed by any new signings.
The new manager , whoever he is, is taking on a poisoned chalice IMO.
My positive thought is that we will hopefully be able to compete next season in lge 2.
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There is no way this Board will stump up for quality signings - that opportunity was in the summer!
We are clearly nowhere near league 1 standard.
It's getting players to come too Alan with the position you are in .
Not easy mate .
Interesting viewing for me with more than one eye on next season and the standard in league one .
Difficult to judge Sunderland on today's showing because with all due respect Rovers didn't lay a glove on em .
Have a look at the team we put out. Barely any football league games amongst the lot of them.
I still question the mentality of some players. Dodoo and hiwula just jog around they have ability but don't show it. The defence has had zero protection all year so hard to judge them but the forward line is awful. Remember wellens saying hiwula and dodoo would make a big difference....
Overall it seems amazing how many are injured and you have to question just how so many can't get fit or seem to be unable to make a comeback. What's happening with Taylor for example?
There's a few players in there with ability most do not.
It's amazing when you are struggling just how many players you get in the treatment room and they seem to remain there far longer than they do when you are up at the top end of the league .
It's a very selfish profession to say the least .
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Ben Close
Tom Anderson
John Bostock
Ethan Galbraith
Jon Taylor
Cameron John
Fejiri Okenibihrie
Charlie Seaman
All would have started today.
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Nothings changed with the performance or result we have a weak inexperienced squad. Announcing the new manager will not change the team. The most important announcements will the quality players who we are bringing in early January and hopefully a vast improvement on the injury situation. If we have to continue with the team/ squad we’ve got today, and it not the individual players fault, through January we will be relegated who ever is the manager.
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Ben Close
Tom Anderson
John Bostock
Ethan Galbraith
Jon Taylor
Cameron John
Fejiri Okenibihrie
Charlie Seaman
All would have started today.
Yet none of that is mentioned on the TV or news outlets about the amount of injuries we have had.
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I’m not running up the white flag but we are fairly likely to go down this season. Better to bring in one or two decent players this window, than another group of panic buys. We’ve made our bed this season and have to do our best to lay down.
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How can we have players lined up when We don’t even have a manger appointed?
I'd expect people to criticise if we DIDN'T have players lined up!
Did you listen to GMs last interview?
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If the selling point for our recruitment is that we want to win the league2 title next season
we should be able to get some decent league1 cast offs, and some promising league2 hopefuls to set that in motion…..
There are very good players in league 2 that will miss out on promotion and maybe see aRovers as a good bet!
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If the selling point for our recruitment is that we want to win the league2 title next season
we should be able to get some decent league1 cast offs, and some promising league2 hopefuls to set that in motion…..
There are very good players in league 2 that will miss out on promotion and maybe see aRovers as a good bet!
I suspect that is exactly where we will be shopping come the window.
One or two players will not turn this season around now.
Happy to be proved wrong.
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Ben Close
Tom Anderson
John Bostock
Ethan Galbraith
Jon Taylor
Cameron John
Fejiri Okenibihrie
Charlie Seaman
All would have started today.
Yet none of that is mentioned on the TV or news outlets about the amount of injuries we have had.
The Sky commentator today, Steve, said that we had some big players missing.
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There is no way this Board will stump up for quality signings - that opportunity was in the summer!
We are clearly nowhere near league 1 standard.
It's getting players to come too Alan with the position you are in .
Not easy mate .
Interesting viewing for me with more than one eye on next season and the standard in league one .
Difficult to judge Sunderland on today's showing because with all due respect Rovers didn't lay a glove on em .
Have a look at the team we put out. Barely any football league games amongst the lot of them.
I still question the mentality of some players. Dodoo and hiwula just jog around they have ability but don't show it. The defence has had zero protection all year so hard to judge them but the forward line is awful. Remember wellens saying hiwula and dodoo would make a big difference....
Overall it seems amazing how many are injured and you have to question just how so many can't get fit or seem to be unable to make a comeback. What's happening with Taylor for example?
There's a few players in there with ability most do not.
It's amazing when you are struggling just how many players you get in the treatment room and they seem to remain there far longer than they do when you are up at the top end of the league .
It's a very selfish profession to say the least .
Dead right, Tyke. I can remember Mourinho publicly calling Luke Shaw out for the same thing, suggesting that he didn't have enough enthusiasm to get himself fit after injuries.
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Our young players did themselves proud today, in my opinion. They give 100 percent and you can ask no more than that. They will fight for the team, the manager and the supporters, come what may. It’s some of the senior players who annoy me - lack of effort and commitment. I don’t need to name names!
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Our young players did themselves proud today, in my opinion. They give 100 percent and you can ask no more than that. They will fight for the team, the manager and the supporters, come what may. It’s some of the senior players who annoy me - lack of effort and commitment. I don’t need to name names!
I think most of these young players would if they work hard have a future in L2 at best, can’t see any of them progressing any better than were they are at the moment
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Hiwula and Dodoo as two alleged first team players, have been as shite a signings as I can ever remember.
Awful the pair of them.
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It must be an extremely tough watch for the Rovers faithful .
Difficult to see any positives to be honest .
I understand it's a make shift team out there and some of those young lads look totally lost .
The young lad who made the challenge for the Sunderland penalty just cried out of a lack of experience and the second goal too when everyone totally switched off .
The unfortunate thing is that Sunderland haven't had to do a right lot to lead 2-0 .
Your sanctimony isn’t welcome.
Personally I’m fed up with your encroachment on this site.
Sod off back to the Barnsley forum and start preparing for relegation.
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It be was a penalty. The most ineffective starting 11’s I think we’ve seen this century
Please don’t take this the wrong way Colin but “it be was a penalty” sounds so much like a quote by Yoda from Star Wars.
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It must be an extremely tough watch for the Rovers faithful .
Difficult to see any positives to be honest .
I understand it's a make shift team out there and some of those young lads look totally lost .
The young lad who made the challenge for the Sunderland penalty just cried out of a lack of experience and the second goal too when everyone totally switched off .
The unfortunate thing is that Sunderland haven't had to do a right lot to lead 2-0 .
Your sanctimony isn’t welcome.
Personally I’m fed up with your encroachment on this site.
Sod off back to the Barnsley forum and start preparing for relegation.
Pancho my friend this must be the very first time I have ever disagreed with anything you have said.
Tyke is in my eyes always welcome here, he is fair minded and constructive, and gives a viewpoint from another club which can be valuable.
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It must be an extremely tough watch for the Rovers faithful .
Difficult to see any positives to be honest .
I understand it's a make shift team out there and some of those young lads look totally lost .
The young lad who made the challenge for the Sunderland penalty just cried out of a lack of experience and the second goal too when everyone totally switched off .
The unfortunate thing is that Sunderland haven't had to do a right lot to lead 2-0 .
Your sanctimony isn’t welcome.
Personally I’m fed up with your encroachment on this site.
Sod off back to the Barnsley forum and start preparing for relegation.
Disagree and a bit harsh - don’t think he’s being sanctimonious at all - just the guy’s opinion to which he’s entitled - just like yours - and this forum is not a closed shop.
Always healthy to get a view from outside, and I think he’s not far off.
Cheers
BVB
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I like Tyke's views, both on here and in off-topic.
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It must be an extremely tough watch for the Rovers faithful .
Difficult to see any positives to be honest .
I understand it's a make shift team out there and some of those young lads look totally lost .
The young lad who made the challenge for the Sunderland penalty just cried out of a lack of experience and the second goal too when everyone totally switched off .
The unfortunate thing is that Sunderland haven't had to do a right lot to lead 2-0 .
Your sanctimony isn’t welcome.
Personally I’m fed up with your encroachment on this site.
Sod off back to the Barnsley forum and start preparing for relegation.
Pancho as Dutch said I am flabbergasted by that riposte at Tyke. Your a top contributor to this site so what brought that on.
It is good imo to have the opinions of supporters of other clubs. They can see it differently looking in from the outside so to speak.
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It is nothing to do with the subject matter Tyke commented on, which was bang on by the way, its the fact it is Tyke that commented, and Pancho doesn't like him or others with a different political view to his on off topic and would like nothing better than to cancel him and others on here.
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Please can we stop criticising Pancho, one of our own. The comment is not typical of him, and as Campsall says, he is a top poster on here.
If I started criticising every poster whose views I don't like I would be rightly banned in no time. :blush:
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Well put DU
I always enjoy the contributions of both Pancho and Tyke .... on the main Forum
... I largely ignore off-topic now as people have totally opposite views on major issues and I have said I would never waste time any more on there as it would be almost impossible to change certain peoples views and as difficult for them to change my views .... so I just dont bother now
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Well put DU
I always enjoy the contributions of both Pancho and Tyke .... on the main Forum
... I largely ignore off-topic now as people have totally opposite views on major issues and I have said I would never waste time any more on there as it would be almost impossible to change certain peoples views and as difficult for them to change my views .... so I just dont bother now
I am going to try to take your lead on that one Wolf. Off topic at times makes this football forum look like a kindergarten.
Best to keep away as it’s toxic most of the time and no one has any respect for anyone else’s views.
We should keep the two completely separate.
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I only commented because I saw the game , if I hadn't I wouldn't have done .
To be honest I can reconcile with what's currently playing out at Rovers this season because I'm equally watching the same rubbish over here .
I share everyone's frustrations and I know how it currently feels to be a long way from good enough right now .
I saw in a number of Rovers players yesterday exactly what I've witnessed this season , leader less , absolutely no threat up front with mistakes at the back leading to the opposition not having to do a right lot to claim three easy points .
Your a mirror image of ourselves .
Its bloody painful .
Pancho's hurting I get it .
Thing is so am I .