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Title: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: phil old leake on December 28, 2021, 09:52:39 am
If the new manager isn’t GMc does anyone have any idea who the other candidate is/might be

Not speculation.  Has there been anything realistic leaked from anywhere
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Campsall rover on December 28, 2021, 10:01:23 am
If the new manager isn’t GMc does anyone have any idea who the other candidate is/might be

Not speculation.  Has there been anything realistic leaked from anywhere
One word I think. NO from what I can see.

But I think it might have been Trollope. Now that’s just a gut feeling. I know nothing more than you.  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: normal rules on December 28, 2021, 12:10:18 pm
I recall Phil there was talk of two ex prem candidates?
If it is GM, no disrespect to him, but the rest was just a bloody charade.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Jonathan on December 28, 2021, 12:22:31 pm
I recall Phil there was talk of two ex prem candidates?
If it is GM, no disrespect to him, but the rest was just a bloody charade.

I don’t necessarily agree with this. You don’t appoint someone just because once upon a time they managed in the premier league, or because people will know their name. I think it’s entirely plausible that the process determined that McSheffrey is the best / most viable candidate based on the ideas he has moving forward. However the way it’s dragged out has created a cloud of negativity that’s going to be hard to shift now. That’s a real shame and it’s particularly unfair on McSheffrey himself, who just wants to do a good job and deserves support. 
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 28, 2021, 12:26:31 pm
If GMcS has half a brain cell, he’ll continue his good work with the U18’s.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: phil old leake on December 28, 2021, 12:27:51 pm
Let’s hope they announce it soon and puts us all out of our misery

Hopefully today
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: phil old leake on December 28, 2021, 12:31:21 pm
I’m with you Alan. I would expect he’s not scratching his ass for a penny and he did say at the start he liked the idea of the stability of the U18s as managers get the sack. I think if I was him I’d stick.  Good luck to him whichever way it goes
The one thing I think he he has done is prove the difference changing the manager can make.  It’s not been miraculous but the team do seem to be improving with a different management style
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: normal rules on December 28, 2021, 12:34:54 pm
Gm may be a lovely bloke, and his ability to manage a junior team is with out question. A big step up is appealing, but it could be a very sobering experience.
Being the captain of a sinking ship.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 28, 2021, 12:37:16 pm
Gm may be a lovely bloke, and his ability to manage a junior team is with out question. A big step up is appealing, but it could be a very sobering experience.
Being the captain of a sinking ship.

Yep. It's a job of Titanic proportions.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Filo on December 28, 2021, 12:40:11 pm
Gm may be a lovely bloke, and his ability to manage a junior team is with out question. A big step up is appealing, but it could be a very sobering experience.
Being the captain of a sinking ship.

The man trying to rescue a sinking ship can not be blamed for the actions of the man that scuttled the ship in the first place
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: scawsby steve on December 28, 2021, 12:40:32 pm
Gm may be a lovely bloke, and his ability to manage a junior team is with out question. A big step up is appealing, but it could be a very sobering experience.
Being the captain of a sinking ship.

Yep. It's a job of Titanic proportions.

We hit an iceberg yesterday, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Campsall rover on December 28, 2021, 01:05:51 pm
Think if GM takes this job he is either very brave or very stupid.
This could set his coaching career back big time.

If he takes it he will get my 100% support but I honestly think it is a mistake considering him with us in this current situation.

He is doing a great job with Frank Sinclair with the youth set up and that is the area the club needs to focus on. So why upset the status quo in that part of the
Clubs operation. To me that could be a huge blunder.

We need experience if it means paying another £75.000 a year or so on top of what the salary is, then that could be the best money they could spend and in the long term save the club 5 times plus that in gate receipts.
How many season tickets will we sell if we are relegated?

Trollope for me if I had a choice on the names banded about.

If it’s Gary Mac then please appoint Adkins as DoF think he would be well suited to that role. If not him then someone of a similar ilk.
GM will need someone to lean on big time and I seriously hope the board realise that.

Fingers crossed the right decisions are made because the club is at a cross roads and if we take the wrong turning at this juncture it is going to be an awful long way back.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: phil old leake on December 28, 2021, 02:16:59 pm
I agree with a lot of what has been said above about GMc.  I would say from listening to him he seems quite confident and does come across as his own man
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: since-1969 on December 28, 2021, 03:53:44 pm
If the new manager isn’t GMc does anyone have any idea who the other candidate is/might be

Not speculation.  Has there been anything realistic leaked from anywhere
So it isn’t GM ? Well kept secret then !!
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: phil old leake on December 28, 2021, 04:18:07 pm
Doesn’t look like it’s happening today then.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 28, 2021, 04:20:35 pm
Doesn’t look like it’s happening today then.

I can't believe anyone seriously thought it would on a non-match bank holiday.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: i_ateallthepies on December 28, 2021, 04:21:23 pm
If the new manager isn’t GMc does anyone have any idea who the other candidate is/might be

Not speculation.  Has there been anything realistic leaked from anywhere

You title the topic the worst kept secret and then ask if anyone has any idea who the other candidate might be.  Sounds to me like it's a very well kept secret.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Campsall rover on December 28, 2021, 04:31:10 pm
Well it gets us talking doesn’t it. More fool us  ;)
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: normal rules on December 28, 2021, 05:12:38 pm
Let’s hope they announce it soon and puts us all out of our misery

Hopefully today


What makes you think it will put us out of our misery Phil? Lol.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Upton Rover on December 28, 2021, 08:00:04 pm
Not GM or they would have announced it after the Sunderland game, just want to buy a bit more time so it never looked bad on GM
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: since-1969 on December 28, 2021, 08:27:13 pm
It maybe the delay is down to the presumption that another lock down is about to occur and the financial position could change . Just a thought .
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: RedRover45 on December 28, 2021, 08:49:54 pm
Or perhaps they offered it to Gary Mc and he turned it down as the salary was not much more than his current job so the board are having to follow different options. Maybe ?
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 28, 2021, 09:06:42 pm
Maybe they're waiting to see how much the gas and electric bill is going to go up by and how much salary they'll have left to offer a new manager? :silly:
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: anton123 on December 29, 2021, 01:08:38 am
I’m with you Alan. I would expect he’s not scratching his ass for a penny and he did say at the start he liked the idea of the stability of the U18s as managers get the sack. I think if I was him I’d stick.  Good luck to him whichever way it goes
The one thing I think he he has done is prove the difference changing the manager can make.  It’s not been miraculous but the team do seem to be improving with a different management style
Really ? 1 win in 4 in a game we was lucky to win all home fixtures as well
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on December 29, 2021, 02:53:08 am
I think myself it could be Alex Neil.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: phil old leake on December 29, 2021, 08:14:59 am
Anton I take it you go to matches which unfortunately I am unable to

My assessment is based on what I read on here and from the Free Press

Are you saying I’ve got the wrong idea and we haven’t improved at all under GMc and are as bad as the teams Welles’s put out

Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: mushRTID on December 29, 2021, 08:18:52 am
I think myself it could be Alex Neil.

Why?
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: colincramb on December 29, 2021, 08:25:58 am
Anton I take it you go to matches which unfortunately I am unable to

My assessment is based on what I read on here and from the Free Press

Are you saying I’ve got the wrong idea and we haven’t improved at all under GMc and are as bad as the teams Welles’s put out



If I’m being honest, there hasn’t been a great deal of difference, even wellens got the odd tune out of us. But the reality is we’ve been schooled twice in his short spell, one of those by a league 2 side.

It’s very difficult to judge given the players he’s got available and I genuinely don’t know how much better he would do if players were available. Has to be said that the set up/shape against Sunderland was diabolical though.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: roversdude on December 29, 2021, 08:29:03 am
Any chance there will be some (carbon neutral) smoke above the Eco Power today.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: roversdude on December 29, 2021, 08:31:50 am
Anton I take it you go to matches which unfortunately I am unable to

My assessment is based on what I read on here and from the Free Press

Are you saying I’ve got the wrong idea and we haven’t improved at all under GMc and are as bad as the teams Welles’s put out



If I’m being honest, there hasn’t been a great deal of difference, even wellens got the odd tune out of us. But the reality is we’ve been schooled twice in his short spell, one of those by a league 2 side.

It’s very difficult to judge given the players he’s got available and I genuinely don’t know how much better he would do if players were available. Has to be said that the set up/shape against Sunderland was diabolical though.

To be honest I’d have thought with a new fitness coach we would look fitter, not convinced we do, although in mitigation there was the recent covid episode
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 29, 2021, 08:56:30 am
I’m with you Alan. I would expect he’s not scratching his ass for a penny and he did say at the start he liked the idea of the stability of the U18s as managers get the sack. I think if I was him I’d stick.  Good luck to him whichever way it goes
The one thing I think he he has done is prove the difference changing the manager can make.  It’s not been miraculous but the team do seem to be improving with a different management style
Really ? 1 win in 4 in a game we was lucky to win all home fixtures as well

I'm guessing you haven't watched us, if you're only judging on results not improvement in performances.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Campsall rover on December 29, 2021, 09:07:01 am
Anton I take it you go to matches which unfortunately I am unable to

My assessment is based on what I read on here and from the Free Press

Are you saying I’ve got the wrong idea and we haven’t improved at all under GMc and are as bad as the teams Welles’s put out



If I’m being honest, there hasn’t been a great deal of difference, even wellens got the odd tune out of us. But the reality is we’ve been schooled twice in his short spell, one of those by a league 2 side.

It’s very difficult to judge given the players he’s got available and I genuinely don’t know how much better he would do if players were available. Has to be said that the set up/shape against Sunderland was diabolical though.
Wellens had Anderson, Bostock, Galbraith and Close available for most of his matches.
GM has not even had that luxury. He had only 2 of them for 2 of his games.

We will not win many games with Blythe, Hasani and Ravenhill in the team all at the same time.
No disrespect to them but they are not ready for this League. We could get away with just one of them possibly but not a prayer with three.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: anton123 on December 29, 2021, 09:48:37 am
Anton I take it you go to matches which unfortunately I am unable to

My assessment is based on what I read on here and from the Free Press

Are you saying I’ve got the wrong idea and we haven’t improved at all under GMc and are as bad as the teams Welles’s put out


Yes mate watched every game this season and I don’t understand the hype around GM from some of the fans we have looked worse then when richy was here especially as all GM games have been at home the win against Shrewsbury was a fluke . Don’t get me wrong he has not had the best players at his disposal but the man him self says he already has a competitive squad with 1 or 2 additions ! I wish him good luck and with always support the team but this for me is the board acceptance of relegation and putting a man in charge who is happy to work and blood youngsters in LG 2 for a few years as you can’t do that in lg1 as this season is proving
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: anton123 on December 29, 2021, 09:51:08 am
I’m with you Alan. I would expect he’s not scratching his ass for a penny and he did say at the start he liked the idea of the stability of the U18s as managers get the sack. I think if I was him I’d stick.  Good luck to him whichever way it goes
The one thing I think he he has done is prove the difference changing the manager can make.  It’s not been miraculous but the team do seem to be improving with a different management style
Really ? 1 win in 4 in a game we was lucky to win all home fixtures as well

I'm guessing you haven't watched us, if you're only judging on results not improvement in performances.
Iv watched every game this season mate and the last 4 performances under GM have been shocking ! Tell me other wise and how u have seen any improvement in performance.
Title: Re: Probably the worst kept secret
Post by: Campsall rover on December 29, 2021, 10:58:57 am
I’m with you Alan. I would expect he’s not scratching his ass for a penny and he did say at the start he liked the idea of the stability of the U18s as managers get the sack. I think if I was him I’d stick.  Good luck to him whichever way it goes
The one thing I think he he has done is prove the difference changing the manager can make.  It’s not been miraculous but the team do seem to be improving with a different management style
Really ? 1 win in 4 in a game we was lucky to win all home fixtures as well

I'm guessing you haven't watched us, if you're only judging on results not improvement in performances.
Iv watched every game this season mate and the last 4 performances under GM have been shocking ! Tell me other wise and how u have seen any improvement in performance.
We were very good against Mansfield 1st half. 2nd half with so many kids in midfield we ran out of steam.
Sorry Guardiola would not have been able to do anything different with what we had on the park.
Shrewsbury I missed but we won. Apparently every win this season has been a fluke. So maybe the same applies to all the defeats. I tell you what is a matter with people.
Sunderland boys v Men  seriously with 6 of our best 7 players missing did you expect us to get a better result than 0-3 
If you did then your even more of a fool than I am. No one more optimistic than me. Not many anyway.

So give GM a few new players and a couple of the injured lads back and let’s see what transpires.