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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on December 28, 2021, 02:05:19 pm
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The last time I went to Morecambe it was one of the most memorable away games I have ever attended with great crowd scenes celebrating Coppingers goal and the way the team had performed as a whole.
Whether we will be able to replicate anything like that on the 2nd of January must be a doubtful dream if the performance is anything like we produced yesterday. We were poor from back to front and start to finish yesterday, looked disjointed with no defensive balance, slow compared with Sunderland, and even I have given up on our strikers ever showing that they can control a ball never mind threaten a defence.
Olowu, Jones, Smith, Rowe and Knoyle apart it was hard to see anyone who could possibly be up to the job of being in a team that can get us out of the trouble we are in.
So what do we do going into this game? firstly Morecambe are not a Sunderland side in form looking to go up to the Championship, they are a side that pull together, play to their strengths and have a player in Cole Stockton that scores goals, someone we would give our right arm for to play here. They will be physical because teams know we don't compete in that part of the game and are seen as push overs, they will disrupt any sign of us getting our game together with the tactical foul, and like every other side lately will try to start on the front foot and get an early goal to impose themselves on us.
It's hard to see what changes to improve our chances we can make before the transfer window, Faulkner for me over Blythe as he is a defender first and foremost, right footed to give balance with Olowu who is left footed and is a more basic defender bigger stronger and faster, the only disadvantage if it is a disadvantage is how young he is.
Hopefully a couple of the walking wounded injured players we have could make this game, news on injuries always being hard to obtain from the powers that be at the club.
Going back to Blythe I think he would be suited to playing a deep mid field position in front of a back 3/4 being mobile and can pass a ball but not physical enough to compete with the big physical strikers we expect him to come up against one on one, the Scunthorpe sub and the Sunderland striker just shoved him aside one on one.
Hopefully Gailbraith and Close are getting near to being fit to play which would improve us immensly in mid field with Smith and Rowe, and Bogle at least looks interested and should be a starter
It is a big game, probably more on it than yesterdays game, but no easier if we don't show more form and aggression.
So who would you pick?
A new official manager will be in charge, if it is GM I will be happy with that, will you?
Morecambe are a decent team, used now to winning ways, are we capable of getting a result there in your opinion?
Are you going to this game?
Lots to discuss about this game, please have your say.
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Me and my boy are going, can’t wait
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Me and my boy are going, can’t wait
So am I but not sure about the “cant wait” bit. ;)
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I plan on going
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We will draw at best,
there is no shame in defeat though !
But we could get lucky!
I have plenty of tissues for those who’s hearts just keeps on breaking………..
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we desperately need 3 points though.
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I expect we played Sunderland for the TV money, but if we are going to this game with the same squad will we get it called off or throw the chance of 3 points away,
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I expect we played Sunderland for the TV money, but if we are going to this game with the same squad will we get it called off or throw the chance of 3 points away,
We have to have Anderson and Galbraith back. Preferably Close also.
Oh and the invisible man up front he has more chance of scoring than the 4 amigos.
Stupid me we have been playing with the invisible man up front all season.
Seriously give Bogle a start if he is now up to speed. Nothing to lose.
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Galbraith was back training after Covid so there is a good chance with him being back.
Anderson was a big miss apparently a reoccurrence of plantar fasciitis that he had earlier in the season
Close is a strange one as he should have been back for the Lincoln game
It sure if it’s confidence or lack of games with Hiwula but his first touch is terrible (he can trap it further than I can kick it)
I would definitely start Faulkner in front of Blythe just because he is more physical
The news on Taylor and Seaman seems to have gone quiet
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We have 8 permanent players injured who return seems to be months. Will any of those eight be available for game time in January. Which person above the physio is carrying out an in-depth investigation why the players getting injured and when will they return.
So against Morecambe it looks to be the same 18 squad plus hopefully Galbraith who is following the back to work protocol for Covid.
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Don't expect to see Anderson playing any time soon with that injury. We'll see Williams back before him
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It's the next match listed on iFollow, but it doesn't say whether it's just audio, or video.
Surely with it being a Sunday, it'll be available to watch?
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Anyway we’re going and looking forward to it
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We Will be there hopefully if possible we will have a couple of new players available
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We won't see Anderson for a while so the defence picks itself. I'd stick Tommy and Smith together in midfield, Hiwula (reluctantly) and Barlow wide. Bogez and Dodoo up front. Standard 4 4 2
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Al be surprised if we see Anderson in a rovers shirt again think he will go in the summer
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Probably safest to count Anderson out for the season with the other eight. Once they enter the treatment room they rarely return.
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I think we’ve had a ‘false nine’ up front all season.
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We Will be there hopefully if possible we will have a couple of new players available
Doubtful listening to GMc after the Sunderland game, apparently because it’s a bank holiday registrations won’t happen until 3rd Jan
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They have a reasonably poor home record in the league this season - played 11, won 3, drawn 4, lost 4. Their form more generally in the league is very poor - last 5 games are lost 3 and drawn 2. They haven't scored a league goal since 23 November and drawn blanks in their last 4 league games.
In short, this is a poor, poor team but probably not weak enough for us to beat away from home though.
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They have a reasonably poor home record in the league this season - played 11, won 3, drawn 4, lost 4. Their form more generally in the league is very poor - last 5 games are lost 3 and drawn 2. They haven't scored a league goal since 23 November and drawn blanks in their last 4 league games.
In short, this is a poor, poor team but probably not weak enough for us to beat away from home though.
If that’s the case CBcb it just shows how poor we are.
We simply have to be capable of going there and winning because we have to pick up some points away from home. If we can’t beat this lot then who will we beat?
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Campsall out of the players that will be available what side would you choose to beat Morecambe
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Campsall out of the players that will be available what side would you choose to beat Morecambe
The strongest one available.
But if your the manager we have lost already. We are playing Morecambe on Sunday not Sunderland.
They are really struggling at the moment. They have not scored in the league since Nov 23rd and are conceding goals.
Yes even Dodoo has a chance of a goal and I hope Bogle starts up front. Play Dodoo wide right.
I know our team is very below what we need but hopefully Galbraith is back and maybe Close.
With those 2 we have some creativity. We just need to get on the end of chances and be clinical.
Simple. If only it was.
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We won't see Anderson for a while so the defence picks itself. I'd stick Tommy and Smith together in midfield, Hiwula (reluctantly) and Barlow wide. Bogez and Dodoo up front. Standard 4 4 2
Now that sounds like a plan. Tommy Smith, we've needed some steel in midfield (this one for those of us who cut our football teeth in the 60 and 70s).
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It's the next match listed on iFollow, but it doesn't say whether it's just audio, or video.
Surely with it being a Sunday, it'll be available to watch?
It should be. I'm sure we can check that out SS.
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We won't see Anderson for a while so the defence picks itself. I'd stick Tommy and Smith together in midfield, Hiwula (reluctantly) and Barlow wide. Bogez and Dodoo up front. Standard 4 4 2
Now that sounds like a plan. Tommy Smith, we've needed some steel in midfield (this one for those of us who cut our football teeth in the 60 and 70s).
He's dead.
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We won't see Anderson for a while so the defence picks itself. I'd stick Tommy and Smith together in midfield, Hiwula (reluctantly) and Barlow wide. Bogez and Dodoo up front. Standard 4 4 2
Now that sounds like a plan. Tommy Smith, we've needed some steel in midfield (this one for those of us who cut our football teeth in the 60 and 70s).
He's dead.
Revert to plan C or is it Z we are on now.
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We won't see Anderson for a while so the defence picks itself. I'd stick Tommy and Smith together in midfield, Hiwula (reluctantly) and Barlow wide. Bogez and Dodoo up front. Standard 4 4 2
Now that sounds like a plan. Tommy Smith, we've needed some steel in midfield (this one for those of us who cut our football teeth in the 60 and 70s).
He's dead.
So, only slightly less effective than our existing DM?
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Morecambe currently leading against Crewe
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Morecambe 1 up against Crewe at min
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Gary Mac, Isn’t the manager I wanted but I will support him as I only want the club to do well.
I think he has done a reasonable job so far, as the confidence was shot before he started. Sunderland as much as I hoped for a result, we were down to bare bones. The young players will have learnt the standards needed to be a pro at this level. It will only improve them.
McSheffrey has organised them pretty well, he could only work with what he had.
We obviously need a left back, centre half, defensive midfielder minimum. With at least a striker coming in, an experienced goalkeeper and a creative, mobile midfielder/winger.
To allow that loans have to go back to clubs, some who aren’t working out in our permanents loaned out and our young kids who are quite ready going out. We need a bit of a shuffling of the pack and a lot of work to get the cohesion in a short space of time. I think we can do it with hard work.
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1 1 Crewe now
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2 1 Crewe were bottom but a better result long term I think
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2-1 Crewe now and seen no stockton in Morecombe side wonder if injured
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Rumours that Stockton is going to Preston, so not in the squad.
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Ft at morcambe.
Sat is a six pointer. And marks the half way point in games played.
Rovers have to at least double their ppg from here on in.
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Ft at morcambe.
Sat is a six pointer. And marks the half way point in games played.
Rovers have to at least double their ppg from here on in.
does that make Sunday a 12 pointer
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Morecambe's Adam Phillips subbed with an injury. One of their better players.
Hopefully, that and a demoralising home defeat to Crewe helps our chances.
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Plus may have their eyes on spurs game week after
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Ft at morcambe.
Sat is a six pointer. And marks the half way point in games played.
Rovers have to at least double their ppg from here on in.
don't turn up on sat mate or you will be on your own
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It’s an age thing.
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just stumbled upon a very worrying certain fact on this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers
this Morecambe striker Cole Stockton has single handedly scored as many league goals 13 as have the entire Rovers team. We have also 13 league goals :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
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just stumbled upon a very worrying certain fact on this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers
this Morecambe striker Cole Stockton has single handedly scored as many league goals 13 as have the entire Rovers team. We have also 13 league goals :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
He missed the last game with injury and may be missing for our clash...
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just stumbled upon a very worrying certain fact on this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers
this Morecambe striker Cole Stockton has single handedly scored as many league goals 13 as have the entire Rovers team. We have also 13 league goals :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
He missed the last game with injury and may be missing for our clash...
MM, someone on here suggested that Stockton missed their last game because he is on the brink of a move to Preston.
If that is the case will he miss the game against us for the same reason.
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Robinson's confirmed that Stockton and McCalmont, who both missed the Crewe game, will probably start against us.
That's probably their best 2 players. I don't feel confident at all for Sunday.
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Remember similar messages from Rovers when Whiteman was leaving
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Where is the best place to park please at Morecombe
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Assuming no other players are fit and available, this looks like the least worst starting XI
Jones
Knoyle
Olowu
Blythe
Horton
Galbraith
Smith
Rowe
Hiwula
Bogle
Dodoo.
Might be enough to grind out a result.
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Assuming no other players are fit and available, this looks like the least worst starting XI
Jones
Knoyle
Olowu
Blythe
Horton
Galbraith
Smith
Rowe
Hiwula
Bogle
Dodoo.
Might be enough to grind out a result.
I’d agree with this.
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Decent shout BST, really hope Galbraith is fit and allowed to play
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I'd go with that team too although we'd be lacking in defence but there's nothing we can do about that with the players available. Trouble for us is we aren't going to outscore teams so the defence needs to be very solid but we're so inexperienced
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Where is the best place to park please at Morecombe
Think there will be plenty of street parking. New ground is quite near to the old ground Christie Park which I went to when we played them in the conference.
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The team above as BST says is the least worst team the only thing is GMC in his pre match discussion with Liam said
McSheffrey said young centre half Ben Blythe - who started Monday’s defeat to Sunderland - is an option to deputise for Anderson but there are others too.
“Maybe Ben, maybe not. There’s options there.
“I thought he did all right the other day but when you dissect the game there’s a couple of goals he could have done better for.
“He’ll learn from that.
So we will see who he decides to pick
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Where is the best place to park please at Morecombe
Think there will be plenty of street parking. New ground is quite near to the old ground Christie Park which I went to when we played them in the conference.
Thanks Campsall
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The only alternatives at centre half are:
- Move Tommy Rowe (our most experienced player) back as temporary cover and put another of the young lads in midfield.
- Give Bobby Faulkner (our least experienced player) his league debut.
- Play Kyle Knoyle there, but he’s not really very physical and we don’t have another right back although Hasani can fill in.
Make no mistake, this is a really hard game with the options we currently have available but there’s nothing we can do about that. We simply must try to strengthen before Saturday.
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Assuming no other players are fit and available, this looks like the least worst starting XI
Jones
Knoyle
Olowu
Blythe
Horton
Galbraith
Smith
Rowe
Hiwula
Bogle
Dodoo.
Might be enough to grind out a result.
I’d agree with this.
Assuming no other players are fit and available, this looks like the least worst starting XI
Jones
Knoyle
Olowu
Blythe
Horton
Galbraith
Smith
Rowe
Hiwula
Bogle
Dodoo.
Might be enough to grind out a result.
Midfield doesn't look too bad with Galbraith back, Smith's improving game on game and as for Tommy Rowe can't believe Wellens signed him to play left back
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If I was picking the team, it would look something like
Jones
Hassani
Knoyle
Olowu
Horton
Smith
Galbraith
Rowe (deep lying)
Barlow
Bogle
Dodoo
Hiwula has been really poor for a number of weeks, Blythe in my opinion is just not ready for this level yet. I like Barlow, he carried the ball forward well at times and I think knoyle had his best ever 45 minutes the last time he dropped in to the CB position.
Tough game ahead, be another hard one to watch, but what do we really expect with the team we have to string together. Hopefully a draw minimum, maybe some how we pull off a little surprise.
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Where is the best place to park please at Morecombe
Think there will be plenty of street parking. New ground is quite near to the old ground Christie Park which I went to when we played them in the conference.
Thanks Campsall
But that was 19 years ago. Where have they gone.
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Didn't Dodoo go off injured?
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He did, but McSheffrey has said he will be ok for Morecambe.
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I'd put Rowe in defence for his experience.
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Good morning!
Morecambe fan here in peace. For anyone interested, a match preview and analysis of Doncaster can be found at:
https://shrimpsonline.co.uk/2022/01/02/the-shrimps-21st-vs-doncaster-rovers-24th-preview-and-swot-analysis-2nd-january/ (https://shrimpsonline.co.uk/2022/01/02/the-shrimps-21st-vs-doncaster-rovers-24th-preview-and-swot-analysis-2nd-january/)
Safe travels for those heading to The Mazuma!
ShrimpsOnline
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I'd put Rowe in defence for his experience.
Me too, he’s a mister knows the game, reads it and organises, you put a kid in there you’ve got no chance, not competent or strong enough. I know Scunny are dreadful but he was class that second half!
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Anyone know if you can pay on the day?
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According to their site yes tickets for away fans on sale at the ticket office on the day.
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Stockton starts.
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rovers are over 4/1 to win this match at the moment
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First 11 looks ok. It’s the bench that looks really lightweight
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Found a stream which seems to be working for those interested!
http://sportsnest.co/a-morecambe-vs-doncaster-rovers/?sport=soccer
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Found a stream which seems to be working for those interested!
http://sportsnest.co/a-morecambe-vs-doncaster-rovers/?sport=soccer
Brilliant Katesby!
Just on it now.
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Hope everyone got through the deluge on M6 ok
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First 11 looks ok. It’s the bench that looks really lightweight
It’s been like that for weeks have you only just noticed. Injuries have been the biggest problem haven’t they.
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looking good, thanks Katesby
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Good morning!
Morecambe fan here in peace. For anyone interested, a match preview and analysis of Doncaster can be found at:
https://shrimpsonline.co.uk/2022/01/02/the-shrimps-21st-vs-doncaster-rovers-24th-preview-and-swot-analysis-2nd-january/ (https://shrimpsonline.co.uk/2022/01/02/the-shrimps-21st-vs-doncaster-rovers-24th-preview-and-swot-analysis-2nd-january/)
Safe travels for those heading to The Mazuma!
ShrimpsOnline
. Thanks for the preview.
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3-2 surely not
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I'm not at all surprised..
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The majority of our squad are an utter disgrace.
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Can’t believe what I’ve just sat and watched this 2nd half
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I expected us to lose today but not from a 3-0 lead.
This will emphasise that Gmac needs some proper L1 players.
We brought Dodoo, Cukur and Ravenhill on as subs and look what happened.
Not enough quality in our team.
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Hiring McSheffrey as permanent manager was always an admission from the board that they were content with a continuation of what was already there. They didn't want things shaking up. This is the result. Morecambe was a must win game and to lose in this fashion seals our relegation in my mind. Not being negative. I'm being realistic!
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Wish i had put more than a £10 on it. God we awful :headbang:
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Obviously reeling from the manner of the defeat but genuinely struggling to see how we come back from this. What little confidence we have will be shattered, 3 more on the treatment table and who will realistically want to join this shitshow? Horrible start to McSheffrey’s permanent reign.