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Title: Highway code
Post by: glosterred on December 29, 2021, 12:20:24 pm
Changes to the Highway Code coming in in the New Year. Should be interesting.



Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: Axholme Lion on December 29, 2021, 12:41:17 pm
Lunacy. I suppose someone will try and prove their rights at the risk of death.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: rich1471 on December 29, 2021, 04:32:41 pm
Going to be some serious injuries even death as how many people will know this
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: Donnywolf on December 29, 2021, 06:05:30 pm
.... or if they do know , how many will care

Texting or talking on phone is commonplace now and is illegal

Parking in confines of a Zebra (the zig zag line bit) WAS the biggest no no in the Highway Code but do people do it .... Of course they do

Weather today rain mist / fog  still people with no lights on M18 .... despite it being an offence ... let alone bloody dangerous

However I bet some of them ride round with full beam on in a well lit area ... Why ffs

Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2021, 07:29:59 pm
.... or if they do know , how many will care

Texting or talking on phone is commonplace now and is illegal

Parking in confines of a Zebra (the zig zag line bit) WAS the biggest no no in the Highway Code but do people do it .... Of course they do

Weather today rain mist / fog  still people with no lights on M18 .... despite it being an offence ... let alone bloody dangerous

However I bet some of them ride round with full beam on in a well lit area ... Why ffs

…..and don’t forget those who have fog lights on because of a bit of light mist.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 29, 2021, 08:03:50 pm
Isn't it just common sense? Don't turn if a bike is there, don't run over a pedestrian?  No pedestrian will blindly walk out (anymore than they normally do).

If we had common sense we'd allow left turns on some traffic lights too like in America.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: rich1471 on December 29, 2021, 09:13:46 pm
.... or if they do know , how many will care

Texting or talking on phone is commonplace now and is illegal

Parking in confines of a Zebra (the zig zag line bit) WAS the biggest no no in the Highway Code but do people do it .... Of course they do

Weather today rain mist / fog  still people with no lights on M18 .... despite it being an offence ... let alone bloody dangerous

However I bet some of them ride round with full beam on in a well lit area ... Why ffs


what I find strange about the law on mobile phones while driving is , you cannot use it while held in your hand as this is illegal but if you put it in a docking station or cradle that's not illegal but both as dangerous the law is a farce on this issue.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: SydneyRover on December 29, 2021, 09:20:18 pm
And what about CB radio for truck drivers, if it is still used, I have never understood that being allowed.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2021, 09:34:29 pm
And what about CB radio for truck drivers, if it is still used, I have never understood that being allowed.

I think it might be legal to use CB radio while driving.
Is it different to taxi drivers taking or receiving calls from an office.
Maybe Filo is the best man to ask about that.
Or police an ambulance crew speaking to base on radios.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: roversdude on December 29, 2021, 11:59:32 pm
I’ve been reading a lot on safety differently lately and some of the experiments in Dutch cities where all road signage and markings are removed - it makes drivers think and act more responsibly. Unfortunately I don’t think it would work in this country
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: phil old leake on January 01, 2022, 10:38:17 am
Dude why do you think the Dutch are more sensible than the citizens of the UK

This is absolute madness. Footpaths are for pedestrians roads are for vehicles.  That’s why there are things like pelican crossings
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 01, 2022, 10:48:51 am
There's gonna be one or two (thousand) claims by freeloaders throwing themselves in front of cars because of this.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: phil old leake on January 01, 2022, 02:55:06 pm
Car insurance increases to cover it
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: ravenrover on January 01, 2022, 03:28:45 pm
I’ve been reading a lot on safety differently lately and some of the experiments in Dutch cities where all road signage and markings are removed - it makes drivers think and act more responsibly. Unfortunately I don’t think it would work in this country
I've only been to Amsterdam once it's the bicycles, couldn't say bikes, that are the problem for a pedestrian not cars
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: Filo on January 01, 2022, 03:32:09 pm
And what about CB radio for truck drivers, if it is still used, I have never understood that being allowed.

I think it might be legal to use CB radio while driving.
Is it different to taxi drivers taking or receiving calls from an office.
Maybe Filo is the best man to ask about that.
Or police an ambulance crew speaking to base on radios.

I can’t speak for other companies, but our system uses your phone as a PDA, we don’t take calls from an office, our jibs come through via 4g and we click one button to accept
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: roversdude on January 01, 2022, 03:49:03 pm
Dude why do you think the Dutch are more sensible than the citizens of the UK

This is absolute madness. Footpaths are for pedestrians roads are for vehicles.  That’s why there are things like pelican crossings

Phil I never said there wasn’t footpaths
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 01, 2022, 04:24:55 pm
I’ve been reading a lot on safety differently lately and some of the experiments in Dutch cities where all road signage and markings are removed - it makes drivers think and act more responsibly. Unfortunately I don’t think it would work in this country
I've only been to Amsterdam once it's the bicycles, couldn't say bikes, that are the problem for a pedestrian not cars

Tell me about it. I was rammed up the arse by a cyclist there a few years ago. The only thing that stopped my mate pissing himself was when the rider caught him in the knackers with the handlebar as she sped off.

Bloody foreigners.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: ravenrover on January 01, 2022, 05:28:03 pm
Did she think your arse was parking for a bike?
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 01, 2022, 05:39:56 pm
Did she think your arse was parking for a bike?

Not sure, but if it was the other way round I'd have ended up in the nick.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 01, 2022, 06:57:47 pm
Whole point of the new regulations is to emphasise who is more likely to get hurt in an incident, and make the less likely one think a bit more.

Like the Kitson in an Audi who once caught me with his wing mirror while I was riding perfectly correctly on my bike and he overtook where there wasn't space.

If a cyclist hits a pedestrian who is behaving sensibly, they are culpable and the new regs make that clear.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 01, 2022, 07:02:47 pm
It also makes the more likely ones think less about their own safety, by leaving the responsibility to someone else.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: phil old leake on January 02, 2022, 10:12:52 am
Dude you misunderstood me I think. What I was trying to say is walking footpaths.  Vehicles roads so on roads vehicles should have priority and pedestrians should give way for them. For me that’s common sense

It’s the same as when you see these idiots on electric scooters on the pavement it’s dangerous
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: roversdude on January 02, 2022, 10:27:11 am
Dude you misunderstood me I think. What I was trying to say is walking footpaths.  Vehicles roads so on roads vehicles should have priority and pedestrians should give way for them. For me that’s common sense

It’s the same as when you see these idiots on electric scooters on the pavement it’s dangerous
Ah sorry Phil
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: knockers on January 02, 2022, 11:10:03 am
New year and the same issues this morning. Inches from being taken out by an old woman in a BMW as she turned out of her drive right towards me and got called a knobhead by a dirty looking scumbag who was going in the opposite direction on an otherwise clear road.
I love cycling!
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: SydneyRover on January 02, 2022, 11:12:53 am
I guess that's why they have to bring in new rules to ensure those knobheads who think they own the roads respect others on it and crossing it.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: glosterred on January 26, 2022, 04:05:16 pm
This will cause some consternation


Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: drfchound on January 26, 2022, 05:26:30 pm
I think there will be a rise in rear end shunts when cars stop at left turns to allow pedestrians to cross before the car leaves the carriageway.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: rich1471 on January 26, 2022, 05:30:21 pm
This will cause some consternation



I ride my bike a lot ,but I would know way overtake a car on the inside if it's wanting to turn left even if the law says it's my right of way
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: drfchound on January 26, 2022, 05:35:37 pm
This will cause some consternation



I ride my bike a lot ,but I would know way overtake a car on the inside if it's wanting to turn left even if the law says it's my right of way

 :that: 100%
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 26, 2022, 05:43:24 pm
This will cause some consternation


I have absolutely no problem with 3. but 2, and 4 will cause a great deal of consternation.
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: SydneyRover on January 26, 2022, 08:43:08 pm
''Common myths about what UK Highway Code changes will mean
Cyclists won’t be ‘in the middle of the road’ and there is no new rule on riding two abreast''

''here is, we are told in the Daily Mail, “fury” over changes to the Highway Code. There is “confusion” among road users. Cyclists and pedestrians will, the more breathless news coverage intimates, have carte blanche to weave across the highways, with drivers held culpable for every mishap''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/24/common-myths-about-what-uk-highway-code-changes-will-mean
Title: Re: Highway code
Post by: glosterred on January 29, 2022, 01:12:52 pm
The 8 changes that come into effect today

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/the-highway-code-8-changes-you-need-to-know-from-29-january-2022#full-publication-update-history