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Title: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Retdon1 on December 31, 2021, 11:40:10 am
Training with the club with a view to signing in Jan...surly we need much better than this
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: sha66y on December 31, 2021, 11:43:20 am
Training with the club with a view to signing in Jan...surly we need much better than this

Who is “ WE” ?

Or is this just your unfounded opinion of a player that doesn’t meet your standard?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Cramby10 on December 31, 2021, 11:44:40 am
He has two arms, two legs and a head. Therefore bound to be better than what we already have that’s fit and available in the forward area at the moment.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Retdon1 on December 31, 2021, 11:50:02 am
Training with the club with a view to signing in Jan...surly we need much better than this

Who is “ WE” ?

Or is this just your unfounded opinion of a player that doesn’t meet your standard?

So you believe a player currently on the bench at a national league north side is what we need in Jan ? Take a look at his career the last few years before joining Boston.

Arnt “we” all part of Doncaster Rovers. Players, staff, supporters.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Jonathan on December 31, 2021, 11:51:03 am
He has two arms, two legs and a head. Therefore bound to be better than what we already have that’s fit and available in the forward area at the moment.

Whilst this is true, his record suggests this would be an utterly pathetic signing and a total waste of wages. I hope it’s just his agent getting his name out there. If we’re to have a chance of staying up then we need far better than this.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: ChrisBx on December 31, 2021, 11:51:53 am
Nowhere near good enough.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: donnyallday on December 31, 2021, 11:58:59 am
He's cack, infact  i like many chucked in £50  on JRs  rally call to help the club to bring a striker in only for SOD to hardly play him. He came on at Derby away and was rubbish, total waste of money.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: IDM on December 31, 2021, 11:59:40 am
Training with the club with a view to signing in Jan...surly we need much better than this

Source.?

Might just be training - how many players did that over the summer who we didn’t sign.?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: johnny rovers on December 31, 2021, 12:03:37 pm
Training with the club with a view to signing in Jan...surly we need much better than this

Source.?

Might just be training - how many players did that over the summer who we didn’t sign.?

Paul Goodwin on twitter.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Bezza on December 31, 2021, 12:05:49 pm
Probably just making the numbers up at training, don't think McSheffrey would sign him,
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Arsenal Of The North on December 31, 2021, 12:14:34 pm
He’s better than vilcar and Tiago, both of which are likely to be sent packing. Yes not ideal, but better.

I don’t know what some of you fans think we’re going to go out and buy… yes significant funds may have been made available, but we’re still not shopping at the top end of the market are we!

Please start setting your expectation at a reasonable level!
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 31, 2021, 12:17:43 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/covid-messed-up-everything-boston-uniteds-milan-lalkovic-back-from-injury-but-unsure-what-the-future-holds-3510459%3famp

The story is there.  Up to the manager to determine if he's good enough.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: DaveDRFC on December 31, 2021, 12:23:05 pm
I went to watch Boston on Tuesday, he came on as a sub and did nothing. Surprised we don't get linked with more Boston players given they train at the Keepmoat.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: johnny rovers on December 31, 2021, 12:28:53 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/covid-messed-up-everything-boston-uniteds-milan-lalkovic-back-from-injury-but-unsure-what-the-future-holds-3510459%3famp

The story is there.  Up to the manager to determine if he's good enough.

What concerns me is the manager doesn't have all the say in who we sign!
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: IDM on December 31, 2021, 12:29:52 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/covid-messed-up-everything-boston-uniteds-milan-lalkovic-back-from-injury-but-unsure-what-the-future-holds-3510459%3famp

The story is there.  Up to the manager to determine if he's good enough.

If that article is accurate then it suggests he was sent to play for Boston in preparation for coming to us - rather than that’s where he’d dropped down to playing.

Puts a different light on things maybe.?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 31, 2021, 12:33:09 pm
Already been chewed upon in Rumour Mill.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 31, 2021, 12:34:26 pm
Our recruitment lol
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: IDM on December 31, 2021, 12:40:07 pm
Our recruitment lol

How helpful do you think that post is, especially when we haven’t signed anyone in this window so far, and even more so as it’s not open yet.??

If the story is true, Lalkovic was a Wellens target anyway, so let’s wait and see, eh.?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: anton123 on December 31, 2021, 12:58:13 pm
Training with the club with a view to signing in Jan...surly we need much better than this

Who is “ WE” ?

Or is this just your unfounded opinion of a player that doesn’t meet your standard?
What sort of response is that ? Everything that’s wrong with this forum
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 31, 2021, 01:01:06 pm
The club need to stop relying on trialists so heavily. Of course he's going to bust a gut for 2 weeks. Like Barlow, Gardner...
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: colincramb on December 31, 2021, 01:11:43 pm
He’s useless. Not what we need, another lightweight attacker
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Filo on December 31, 2021, 01:22:40 pm
Training with the club with a view to signing in Jan...surly we need much better than this

Who is “ WE” ?

Or is this just your unfounded opinion of a player that doesn’t meet your standard?
What sort of response is that ? Everything that’s wrong with this forum

Tell us how much better t**tter is than this forum?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 31, 2021, 01:29:06 pm
If the recruitment team have substantial funds at their deposal then signing a player who is not linked with a league club now is not the way to go surely they have learnt from the summer desperation is not the way to go.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: MachoMadness on December 31, 2021, 01:29:20 pm
I'm not sure of the wisdom of signing a player who's been a sick note his whole career given our injury record this season.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: David Pearson on December 31, 2021, 01:32:23 pm
If this is the calibre of player we're looking at, then don't expect much in the way of quality through the door....Surely we should be looking for better ...
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 31, 2021, 01:55:37 pm
Just done a bit of back reading on his career to give him a fair crack in my own mind at least ... he has essentially had two good seasons, both at Walsall, the last in 2014/15 when they finished 3rd in league one and he was a major part of it. He plays as a winger, and has clear technical ability but little pace or physicality. Seems to be still in contact with SOD and Copps if past news articles and his twitter are anything to go by.

The worrying thing is the injuries. Last 4 / 5 /6 years his career seems to be on a downward spiral interrupted by injuries.

Quote
"It (injury) has happened to me many times over the past two years, that's maybe why I find myself in this situation. Thats football. I'll work hard to do what's best."

https://www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/covid-messed-up-everything-boston-uniteds-milan-lalkovic-back-from-injury-but-unsure-what-the-future-holds-3510459

This has been a recurring Achilles problem going back to 2015...

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/former-portsmouth-winger-milan-lalkovic-puts-injury-pain-behind-hima-561353
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on December 31, 2021, 02:12:48 pm
We are very light on players so i'm not horrified by it. A low wage or pay as you play given his injury record wouldn't be too bad to give us 20min from the bench to try change a game. 

Whether this is disappointing or not really needs us to wait and see how he ranks with any other signings we make. If it is just Milan or others of his ilk we're f**ked that's clear.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 31, 2021, 02:15:16 pm
Even with a decent budget available for this window, people need to get realistic. First, recruiting in January is always very difficult. Second, it is nigh on impossible to get the players you need to stay in League One, if the odds are you will be in League Two next season. At best you are looking at getting League One quality in on a short-term basis e.g. Downing on loan until end of season. Nobody is going to sign longer-term contracts when we are an evens bet to be in League Two next season, unless we throw stupid money around, which we have not got. People need to get real.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on December 31, 2021, 02:20:49 pm
Agree with the above but that begs the question are we better saving any additional funds till the summer to try get back up quickly? given better players will be available at more reasonable cost. 

I know we have to try and bizarrely we aren't that far away from safety but if this is the level of trying we're capable of it's not worth the money
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 31, 2021, 02:24:25 pm
It's probably sensible to use the budget as we did in 2013/14 when we brought in Sharp, Meite, Tamas and Neill on loan. Top quality players for Championship who made a huge difference. All obviously disappeared when we got relegated, but we would not have been able to sign them that season on longer-term deals. We have enough players out of contract in the summer that if we need to do a complete squad rebuild due to relegation, we have the freedom to do that.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on December 31, 2021, 02:29:47 pm
It's probably sensible to use the budget as we did in 2013/14 when we brought in Sharp, Meite, Tamas and Neill on loan. Top quality players for Championship who made a huge difference. All obviously disappeared when we got relegated, but we would not have been able to sign them that season on longer-term deals. We have enough players out of contract in the summer that if we need to do a complete squad rebuild due to relegation, we have the freedom to do that.

If we can sign L1 equivalents then 100% we should go for it. No point signing 4-5 players of Milan Lalkovic's ilk is what i'm getting at
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 31, 2021, 02:52:06 pm
Shouldn’t this touch be in Rumour mill
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 31, 2021, 02:53:31 pm
Paul Goodwin from the Free Press has put this into the public domain earlier today.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on December 31, 2021, 03:07:42 pm
Even with a decent budget available for this window, people need to get realistic. First, recruiting in January is always very difficult. Second, it is nigh on impossible to get the players you need to stay in League One, if the odds are you will be in League Two next season. At best you are looking at getting League One quality in on a short-term basis e.g. Downing on loan until end of season. Nobody is going to sign longer-term contracts when we are an evens bet to be in League Two next season, unless we throw stupid money around, which we have not got. People need to get real.

A league one club signing a few proven league one players on loan or a short contract to the end of the season shouldn't be costing 'stupid money' though should it? You'd expect the significant funds made available in January to cover those costs. Funds I'm very grateful the board have made available, I should add.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 31, 2021, 03:14:38 pm
That was exactly the point I made. Signing players of proven League One quality on longer-term contracts is only going to happen if we throw stupid money around. What we have more ability to do is sign these players on loan.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Campsall rover on December 31, 2021, 03:33:38 pm
I went to watch Boston on Tuesday, he came on as a sub and did nothing. Surprised we don't get linked with more Boston players given they train at the Keepmoat.
That is the clue.
Some of the Boston players train at the EP stadium. Keepmoat where is that.  ;)   :)
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: EasyforDennis on December 31, 2021, 04:43:24 pm
Surely Paul Green will have an opinion as to his worth to us?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on December 31, 2021, 04:48:07 pm
Surely Paul Green will have an opinion as to his worth to us?

They will be team mates for us soon.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: phil old leake on December 31, 2021, 06:01:39 pm
Buzzberry raised this a few weeks ago. His info was probably good then
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: drfchound on December 31, 2021, 06:06:22 pm
Surely Paul Green will have an opinion as to his worth to us?

They will be team mates for us soon.


Hasn’t Greeny picked up an injury.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on December 31, 2021, 06:11:59 pm
Surely Paul Green will have an opinion as to his worth to us?

They will be team mates for us soon.


Yes he has it will keep him out for a few weeks.

Hasn’t Greeny picked up an injury.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: DRFCSouth on December 31, 2021, 06:14:41 pm
His goal scoring ability could really come in handy. He managed 7 one season at Walsall. Alongside Dodoo & Hiwula, that could really add up come season end.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: DonnyOsmond on January 01, 2022, 10:15:26 am
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/gary-mcsheffrey-on-whether-doncaster-rovers-will-offer-a-deal-to-former-loanee-milan-lalkovic-3512409

Not happening. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: RugbyRover on January 01, 2022, 10:31:23 am
"We need attackers that are match fit and ready, who are going to score goals at the level and have scored goals at the level on a regular basis."

I hope this doesn't turn out the same way as Moore's "pedigree striker" comment.  :unsure:
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on January 01, 2022, 10:37:48 am
Manager thankfully had second thoughts.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: DRFCSouth on January 01, 2022, 10:39:11 am
Manager thankfully had second thoughts.
Beggars belief he was ever being considered.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: johnny rovers on January 01, 2022, 10:44:25 am
Manager thankfully had second thoughts.
Beggars belief he was ever being considered.

It wasn't ever his first thought. It was under wellens that Milan may of signed. Let's all please cut the slack on McSheffery. He deserves better than this.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Filo on January 01, 2022, 10:45:12 am
Manager thankfully had second thoughts.

It looks like it was n’t his first thoughts, but rather the first thoughts of the previous manager
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: DRFCSouth on January 01, 2022, 10:46:27 am
Manager thankfully had second thoughts.
Beggars belief he was ever being considered.

It wasn't ever his first thought. It was under wellens that Milan may of signed. Let's all please cut the slack on McSheffery. He deserves better than this.
It wasn't a dig at GM.

Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: RugbyRover on January 01, 2022, 10:49:02 am
Manager thankfully had second thoughts.

It looks like it was n’t his first thoughts, but rather the first thoughts of the previous manager

More likely someone put forward by the recruitment panel. ML is good friends with Copps apparently. Obviously an attempt to stretch the limited funds available at that time.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: eastender on January 01, 2022, 01:08:09 pm
If Wellens thought an unfit , injury prone Lalkovic was the answer to our problems  then I despair .
Thank god the Board saw sense and sent him packing before he squandered any more money.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: roversdude on January 01, 2022, 02:44:58 pm
At least it’s not happening
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: redwine on January 01, 2022, 03:40:54 pm
If Wellens thought an unfit , injury prone Lalkovic was the answer to our problems  then I despair .
Thank god the Board saw sense and sent him packing before he squandered any more money.

If true it does put Wellens decision making into question.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: IDM on January 01, 2022, 03:54:36 pm
Wasn’t Wellens looking for Lalkovic to gain fitness with Boston?  Daft to suggest he wanted to sign an unfit player isn’t it?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Janso on January 01, 2022, 04:43:20 pm
Wasn’t Wellens looking for Lalkovic to gain fitness with Boston?  Daft to suggest he wanted to sign an unfit player isn’t it?

Yeah, we definitely wouldn't sign an attacking player that wasn't up to speed on his fitness.

(https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/api/image/cropandgreyscale/ffc6222a-21c1-4bda-b34b-cdd4f71a4278/?preset=player&greyscale=false)
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Metalmicky on January 02, 2022, 10:24:08 am
It's not happening....

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/gary-mcsheffrey-on-whether-doncaster-rovers-will-offer-a-deal-to-former-loanee-milan-lalkovic-3512409
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: DonnyOsmond on January 02, 2022, 10:31:06 am
It's not happening....

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/gary-mcsheffrey-on-whether-doncaster-rovers-will-offer-a-deal-to-former-loanee-milan-lalkovic-3512409

Sheffield United lose appeal?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: roversdude on January 02, 2022, 10:32:13 am
It really does show RW in a poor light if this was one of his targets for January
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 02, 2022, 10:40:22 am
First he wasn’t signed secondly was he put forward by the recruitment team thirdly with limited funds then maybe it’s the level of player we could get. Now more funds are available therefore GMC should be looking at players who are actually in league football at the moment. The players that GMC and the club signs will have come through  the recruitment team. That is the process when players signed.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: normal rules on January 02, 2022, 08:28:43 pm
Lalkovic Came on late for Boston today and was described by some Boston supporters as looking sharp. There are also comments on the bufc fb page suggesting he will be moving to a lge one club.
Given GM said in his interview that there may be plan b players etc , I would not be surprised to see him in a rovers shirt soon.
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: mushRTID on January 02, 2022, 08:29:36 pm
Can we swap him for Hiwula?
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: jamesrover17 on January 02, 2022, 08:30:47 pm
Can we swap him for Hiwula?

Beat me to it!
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Filo on January 02, 2022, 08:34:08 pm
Lalkovic Came on late for Boston today and was described by some Boston supporters as looking sharp. There are also comments on the bufc fb page suggesting he will be moving to a lge one club.
Given GM said in his interview that there may be plan b players etc , I would not be surprised to see him in a rovers shirt soon.

Lets be fair he has to be way better than Dodoo and Hiwula
Title: Re: Milan Lalkovic
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 02, 2022, 08:40:15 pm
My dog would be a better option than Dodoo. Some people say Dodoo has potential!!!!! He is just a poor player full stop.