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Title: Not Marquis then
Post by: Branton Rover on December 31, 2021, 06:34:51 pm
GM stated in the Free Press that we can’t afford him. He said we could blow the budget on Marquis or get 4 players in for the same outlay. Makes you wonder what financial pond we’re fishing in.

My view would be could a loan deal for JM be thrashed out? Give us a chance to reignite his career if nothing else & also if he does well it’ll assist us avoiding the drop.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: IDM on December 31, 2021, 06:43:10 pm
Is Marquis the only striker potentially available?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Branton Rover on December 31, 2021, 06:53:59 pm
No! But he’s a proven performer at this level
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: IDM on December 31, 2021, 06:58:27 pm
He is indeed, but I reckon Pompey and the man himself would be looking for a permanent move.  If he doesn’t get one, I can imagine him going out on loan close to the end of the window - too late for us?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: arkseyrover on December 31, 2021, 07:03:33 pm
Wile I do recognise the hard work, commitment and money the owners put into the club it does hammer home the reality of where we really are, when although having 'substantial' transfer funds available to improve the team, we can't afford a short term loan deal for a failing striker who a rival third tier club want to get rid of as it would 'eat up' most of our budget.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 31, 2021, 07:08:58 pm
Wile I do recognise the hard work, commitment and money the owners put into the club it does hammer home the reality of where we really are, when although having 'substantial' transfer funds available to improve the team, we can't afford a short term loan deal for a failing striker who a rival third tier club want to get rid of as it would 'eat up' most of our budget.

Can you please give us the exact figures involved so we know exactly where you're coming from?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Padge_DRFC on December 31, 2021, 07:14:27 pm
I bet Bogle and Dodoos wages combined would go along to paying for him. Probably not all. However selling those 2 is like selling sand to Saudis impossible
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: arkseyrover on December 31, 2021, 07:23:14 pm
Wile I do recognise the hard work, commitment and money the owners put into the club it does hammer home the reality of where we really are, when although having 'substantial' transfer funds available to improve the team, we can't afford a short term loan deal for a failing striker who a rival third tier club want to get rid of as it would 'eat up' most of our budget.

Can you please give us the exact figures involved so we know exactly where you're coming from?

? I don't have any figures Glyn. Am just stating a fact of life
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 31, 2021, 07:25:53 pm
Never say never.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 31, 2021, 07:34:22 pm
He is indeed, but I reckon Pompey and the man himself would be looking for a permanent move.  If he doesn’t get one, I can imagine him going out on loan close to the end of the window - too late for us?

Exactly. Do we want to wait around till the last minute? Given the last window, I think there would be hell on with the uncertainty.

Do whatever business as early as we can.  If there’s owt left in the pot or there's something the owners think they can do over and above, at the end of the window then fair play 
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Canadian Rover on December 31, 2021, 08:08:11 pm
Bold statement time here from me: if we signed Marquis (even with the current squad - exception a few quality loans) we stay up & attendances go up easily 500/1000 per game.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Drover on December 31, 2021, 08:14:52 pm
Wile I do recognise the hard work, commitment and money the owners put into the club it does hammer home the reality of where we really are, when although having 'substantial' transfer funds available to improve the team, we can't afford a short term loan deal for a failing striker who a rival third tier club want to get rid of as it would 'eat up' most of our budget.

Can you please give us the exact figures involved so we know exactly where you're coming from?

Arkseyrover is quoting Gary Mcsheffrey,with we cannot afford JM and eating up most of budget,GM is the one you should ask Glyn_wigley,as regards transfer funds available etc the club,board do not give exact figures themselves neither.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: IDM on December 31, 2021, 08:43:09 pm
Wile I do recognise the hard work, commitment and money the owners put into the club it does hammer home the reality of where we really are, when although having 'substantial' transfer funds available to improve the team, we can't afford a short term loan deal for a failing striker who a rival third tier club want to get rid of as it would 'eat up' most of our budget.

Perhaps he isn’t available for/wanting a loan, regardless of how much he would or wouldn’t cost?

Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Superspy on December 31, 2021, 09:08:22 pm
Maybe a controversial opinion but I honestly don't think Marquis has the temperament to succeed in this squad. He'll work his nuts off, no question, but he regularly needed 3 or 4 clear cut chances to put one away. We don't create enough through the rest of the team and I don't imagine he'd be too thrilled at comparative workrates of his teammates and lack of chance creation unless something significant changes.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 31, 2021, 09:13:03 pm
Bold statement time here from me: if we signed Marquis (even with the current squad - exception a few quality loans) we stay up & attendances go up easily 500/1000 per game.

Agree with this, sign him on loan, we stay up.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: phil old leake on December 31, 2021, 09:17:48 pm
Stop looking back look forward.  If he comes back I hope it goes well. Just remember before he signed for us his goal scoring wasn’t prolific and since he’s left us it hasn’t been either

Works his boxxxcks off every game great attitude but get over him.  You’ll be wanting Billy back next
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 31, 2021, 09:20:17 pm
What striker do we currently have that only needs 3 or 4 chances to put one away? Unbelievable statement!

Just remind me how many goals we’ve scored this season.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: ravenrover on December 31, 2021, 09:31:49 pm
The difference with what we have at the moment and a player like Marquis is the movement he makes which makes the goalscoring opportunities, unlike the statues we have up front at the moment
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Sprotyrover on December 31, 2021, 09:34:58 pm
So we are not likely to see any 'MOUTHWATERING ' signings then?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Padge_DRFC on December 31, 2021, 09:35:19 pm
What striker do we currently have that only needs 3 or 4 chances to put one away? Unbelievable statement!

Just remind me how many goals we’ve scored this season.

What striker even gets in a position or actually moves to score a goal at the minute?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: dknward2 on December 31, 2021, 09:41:19 pm
Gm is hardly gonna say, yeah we are going for him and do whatever it takes and if I have to spend all the budget I will.

Better to say we can’t afford him we have to look at other targets and if we get him then he appears a genius and the board have found the money under the floorboards.

I just hope that we get the business done early and not getting messed out at the last minute like at the start of the season
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: DRFCSouth on December 31, 2021, 09:42:41 pm
Interesting that a Google search throws up Marquis' salary at £5100 per week. So 20k ish a month. 80k for 4 months roughly till towards the end of the season.
Whether these figures are anywhere near I dont know, just what's online. If we are to go on those figures and GM says that would eat up the budget, it's an indicator as to where we're at.
I would have thought he would be on more than that but there we go.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: IDM on December 31, 2021, 10:01:43 pm
Why would his salary be freely available to find via google.?

It will be a guess don’t you think?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: DRFCSouth on December 31, 2021, 10:04:30 pm
Why would his salary be freely available to find via google.?

It will be a guess don’t you think?
It could be very much a guess. It lists every team & player. Would it be so wide of the mark? I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Dagenham Rover on December 31, 2021, 10:05:56 pm
And of course JM and his other half want to come to back to Donny when she (apparently) wanted to be back near family  get real  I'd be gobsmacked if he came back
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 31, 2021, 10:15:14 pm
Well, Pompey want rid before his contract expires in the Summer. I would imagine perhaps they haven’t paid us in full yet for him, he knows the club, the area, the fans, and importantly he was very successful here AND he would be welcomed, valued and loved…

We have a lot in our favour here.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: 5minstogo on December 31, 2021, 10:23:12 pm
Interesting that a Google search throws up Marquis' salary at £5100 per week. So 20k ish a month. 80k for 4 months roughly till towards the end of the season.
Whether these figures are anywhere near I dont know, just what's online. If we are to go on those figures and GM says that would eat up the budget, it's an indicator as to where we're at.
I would have thought he would be on more than that but there we go.

Incidentally that website shows why Wellens was keen to move Bogle and Williams on. Although looking at the wage given to Barlow and Gardener you maybe need to question it. In most cases it isn't far off
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: DRFCSouth on December 31, 2021, 10:26:32 pm
Interesting that a Google search throws up Marquis' salary at £5100 per week. So 20k ish a month. 80k for 4 months roughly till towards the end of the season.
Whether these figures are anywhere near I dont know, just what's online. If we are to go on those figures and GM says that would eat up the budget, it's an indicator as to where we're at.
I would have thought he would be on more than that but there we go.

Incidentally that website shows why Wellens was keen to move Bogle and Williams on. Although looking at the wage given to Barlow and Gardener you maybe need to question it. In most cases it isn't far off
Indeed, it's probably close.

Which gives us an idea where we're at.

Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 01, 2022, 01:29:29 am
Wile I do recognise the hard work, commitment and money the owners put into the club it does hammer home the reality of where we really are, when although having 'substantial' transfer funds available to improve the team, we can't afford a short term loan deal for a failing striker who a rival third tier club want to get rid of as it would 'eat up' most of our budget.

Can you please give us the exact figures involved so we know exactly where you're coming from?

? I don't have any figures Glyn. Am just stating a fact of life

Facts have absolutely nothing to do with what you wrote.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: wilts rover on January 01, 2022, 09:13:55 am
Interesting that a Google search throws up Marquis' salary at £5100 per week. So 20k ish a month. 80k for 4 months roughly till towards the end of the season.
Whether these figures are anywhere near I dont know, just what's online. If we are to go on those figures and GM says that would eat up the budget, it's an indicator as to where we're at.
I would have thought he would be on more than that but there we go.

He was a 20+ goals per season striker sold for over £1million when he left us. He isn't on 5k a week.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: 5minstogo on January 01, 2022, 09:19:14 am
Interesting that a Google search throws up Marquis' salary at £5100 per week. So 20k ish a month. 80k for 4 months roughly till towards the end of the season.
Whether these figures are anywhere near I dont know, just what's online. If we are to go on those figures and GM says that would eat up the budget, it's an indicator as to where we're at.
I would have thought he would be on more than that but there we go.

He was a 20+ goals per season striker sold for over £1million when he left us. He isn't on 5k a week.

5k basic plus appearance and goal bonuses? Neither of which he's getting if he doesn't play. Even at 5k he'll be out of our reach if we are wanting the several players we need.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: DRFCSouth on January 01, 2022, 09:20:27 am
Interesting that a Google search throws up Marquis' salary at £5100 per week. So 20k ish a month. 80k for 4 months roughly till towards the end of the season.
Whether these figures are anywhere near I dont know, just what's online. If we are to go on those figures and GM says that would eat up the budget, it's an indicator as to where we're at.
I would have thought he would be on more than that but there we go.

He was a 20+ goals per season striker sold for over £1million when he left us. He isn't on 5k a week.
I agree with your logic.

What is he on? Do you have any sources?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: andyst79 on January 01, 2022, 10:17:30 am
Didn't Wellens mention Tommy Rowe agreed to take a massive pay cut to come here with a basic salary of 2k a week? That should be a good indication of were we're at with our wage structure
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: RugbyRover on January 01, 2022, 10:20:17 am
Maybe a controversial opinion but I honestly don't think Marquis has the temperament to succeed in this squad. He'll work his nuts off, no question, but he regularly needed 3 or 4 clear cut chances to put one away. We don't create enough through the rest of the team and I don't imagine he'd be too thrilled at comparative workrates of his teammates and lack of chance creation unless something significant changes.

Agree with those points.

But getting JM back and having some movement in final 3rd will improve players like Bostock straight away. Not going to happen though.

Also wtf were pompey thinking about giving him a wage like that? Well done to him and his agent for getting that deal done.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Campsall rover on January 01, 2022, 10:24:46 am
Maybe a controversial opinion but I honestly don't think Marquis has the temperament to succeed in this squad. He'll work his nuts off, no question, but he regularly needed 3 or 4 clear cut chances to put one away. We don't create enough through the rest of the team and I don't imagine he'd be too thrilled at comparative workrates of his teammates and lack of chance creation unless something significant changes.

Agree with those points.

But getting JM back and having some movement in final 3rd will improve players like Bostock straight away. Not going to happen though.

Also wtf were pompey thinking about giving him a wage like that? Well done to him and his agent for getting that deal done.
Bostock. Where is he?  Knackered. Got the bottle of a …………  complete waste of ability.  Sooner he goes to Wednesday and joins Moore the better for me.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 01, 2022, 11:15:57 am
Maybe a controversial opinion but I honestly don't think Marquis has the temperament to succeed in this squad. He'll work his nuts off, no question, but he regularly needed 3 or 4 clear cut chances to put one away. We don't create enough through the rest of the team and I don't imagine he'd be too thrilled at comparative workrates of his teammates and lack of chance creation unless something significant changes.

Agree with those points.

But getting JM back and having some movement in final 3rd will improve players like Bostock straight away. Not going to happen though.

Also wtf were pompey thinking about giving him a wage like that? Well done to him and his agent for getting that deal done.
Bostock. Where is he?  Knackered. Got the bottle of a …………  complete waste of ability.  Sooner he goes to Wednesday and joins Moore the better for me.

The guys had an operation, not sure he can do much about that. The injury clearly happened in a game aswell, hardly a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Filo on January 01, 2022, 11:24:17 am
Maybe a controversial opinion but I honestly don't think Marquis has the temperament to succeed in this squad. He'll work his nuts off, no question, but he regularly needed 3 or 4 clear cut chances to put one away. We don't create enough through the rest of the team and I don't imagine he'd be too thrilled at comparative workrates of his teammates and lack of chance creation unless something significant changes.

Agree with those points.

But getting JM back and having some movement in final 3rd will improve players like Bostock straight away. Not going to happen though.

Also wtf were pompey thinking about giving him a wage like that? Well done to him and his agent for getting that deal done.
Bostock. Where is he?  Knackered. Got the bottle of a …………  complete waste of ability.  Sooner he goes to Wednesday and joins Moore the better for me.

You fall into the trap most do, he is the best we have of retaining possession at the moment, the traffic cones in front of him don’t help him with their lack of movement, you can’t win games if you have n’t got the ball. Bostock would look miles better with intelligent players in front of him
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: philsky on January 01, 2022, 12:44:52 pm
Maybe a controversial opinion but I honestly don't think Marquis has the temperament to succeed in this squad. He'll work his nuts off, no question, but he regularly needed 3 or 4 clear cut chances to put one away. We don't create enough through the rest of the team and I don't imagine he'd be too thrilled at comparative workrates of his teammates and lack of chance creation unless something significant changes.

Agree with those points.

But getting JM back and having some movement in final 3rd will improve players like Bostock straight away. Not going to happen though.

Also wtf were pompey thinking about giving him a wage like that? Well done to him and his agent for getting that deal done.
Bostock. Where is he?  Knackered. Got the bottle of a …………  complete waste of ability.  Sooner he goes to Wednesday and joins Moore the better for me.

You fall into the trap most do, he is the best we have of retaining possession at the moment, the traffic cones in front of him don’t help him with their lack of movement, you can’t win games if you have n’t got the ball. Bostock would look miles better with intelligent players in front of him

spot on Filo - JB is a class act. Marquis would thrive. Close, Taylor and Bostock feeding him.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 01, 2022, 12:50:03 pm
Sadly Close, Taylor and Bostock are all out injured and no timeline for when or if they will return. I certainly doubt very much we will see all three playing together at the same time for Rovers.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Campsall rover on January 01, 2022, 01:31:58 pm
Maybe a controversial opinion but I honestly don't think Marquis has the temperament to succeed in this squad. He'll work his nuts off, no question, but he regularly needed 3 or 4 clear cut chances to put one away. We don't create enough through the rest of the team and I don't imagine he'd be too thrilled at comparative workrates of his teammates and lack of chance creation unless something significant changes.

Agree with those points.

But getting JM back and having some movement in final 3rd will improve players like Bostock straight away. Not going to happen though.

Also wtf were pompey thinking about giving him a wage like that? Well done to him and his agent for getting that deal done.
Bostock. Where is he?  Knackered. Got the bottle of a …………  complete waste of ability.  Sooner he goes to Wednesday and joins Moore the better for me.

The guys had an operation, not sure he can do much about that. The injury clearly happened in a game aswell, hardly a conspiracy.
Where was the word conspiracy used? 
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Jonathan on January 01, 2022, 01:41:07 pm
If not Marquis, Portsmouth have another striker they are willing to let go in Ellis Harrison. Goalscoring record not great but he’s certainly impressed against us before.

Can anyone remember the five strikers that the Free Press reported that our recruitment team had identified as alternatives to Grigg (before we tried to land O’Brien, who wasn’t on that list, then ended up with Dodoo, who wasn’t either).

Tom Eaves was definitely one. I can’t remember the others?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Campsall rover on January 01, 2022, 01:41:14 pm
Maybe a controversial opinion but I honestly don't think Marquis has the temperament to succeed in this squad. He'll work his nuts off, no question, but he regularly needed 3 or 4 clear cut chances to put one away. We don't create enough through the rest of the team and I don't imagine he'd be too thrilled at comparative workrates of his teammates and lack of chance creation unless something significant changes.

Agree with those points.

But getting JM back and having some movement in final 3rd will improve players like Bostock straight away. Not going to happen though.

Also wtf were pompey thinking about giving him a wage like that? Well done to him and his agent for getting that deal done.
Bostock. Where is he?  Knackered. Got the bottle of a …………  complete waste of ability.  Sooner he goes to Wednesday and joins Moore the better for me.

You fall into the trap most do, he is the best we have of retaining possession at the moment, the traffic cones in front of him don’t help him with their lack of movement, you can’t win games if you have n’t got the ball. Bostock would look miles better with intelligent players in front of him
Filo I have never said he is not a good player. Ever.

He has not been used to his potential by Darren Moore or RW.

He has missed more games than he has played.  I think that is correct, someone will know.

Sorry total luxury in this squad. Nothing whatsoever to do with ability. I have never questioned his ability.
It is heart, and bottle I am questioning and that possibly goes for one or two others as well.
Just to add his current injury is unfortunate. I don’t have some sort of a vendetta with him. Just to be clear.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: TixTheBox on January 01, 2022, 02:56:10 pm
If not Marquis, Portsmouth have another striker they are willing to let go in Ellis Harrison. Goalscoring record not great but he’s certainly impressed against us before.

Can anyone remember the five strikers that the Free Press reported that our recruitment team had identified as alternatives to Grigg (before we tried to land O’Brien, who wasn’t on that list, then ended up with Dodoo, who wasn’t either).

Tom Eaves was definitely one. I can’t remember the others?

Tom Eaves
Danny Hylton
Kenneth Zohore
Kyle Joseph

I can’t remember the 5th.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: ian1980 on January 01, 2022, 03:18:41 pm
If not Marquis, Portsmouth have another striker they are willing to let go in Ellis Harrison. Goalscoring record not great but he’s certainly impressed against us before.

Can anyone remember the five strikers that the Free Press reported that our recruitment team had identified as alternatives to Grigg (before we tried to land O’Brien, who wasn’t on that list, then ended up with Dodoo, who wasn’t either).

Tom Eaves was definitely one. I can’t remember the others?

WILL GRIGG
DANNY HYLTON
KYLE JOSEPH
KENNETH ZOHORE
TOM EAVES

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/a-closer-look-at-the-strikers-doncaster-rovers-could-sign-on-deadline-day-3365355%3Famp
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: NickDRFC on January 01, 2022, 03:30:07 pm
If not Marquis, Portsmouth have another striker they are willing to let go in Ellis Harrison. Goalscoring record not great but he’s certainly impressed against us before.

Can anyone remember the five strikers that the Free Press reported that our recruitment team had identified as alternatives to Grigg (before we tried to land O’Brien, who wasn’t on that list, then ended up with Dodoo, who wasn’t either).

Tom Eaves was definitely one. I can’t remember the others?

WILL GRIGG
DANNY HYLTON
KYLE JOSEPH
KENNETH ZOHORE
TOM EAVES

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/a-closer-look-at-the-strikers-doncaster-rovers-could-sign-on-deadline-day-3365355%3Famp

Not sure how much to trust that, felt a bit like pulling names out of the hat. Mind you signing Dodoo also felt a bit like that!
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: jmt23 on January 01, 2022, 03:56:22 pm
I would have thought that if the last few days say anything, GMc is his own man, who will go after his own players.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: scawsby steve on January 01, 2022, 04:05:32 pm
I would have thought that if the last few days say anything, GMc is his own man, who will go after his own players.

I disagree. I think one of the things that went in his favour was the fact that he'll have been involved with the recruitment team, in identifying targets that are good to go on the 4th of January.

We'll see next week.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Colin C No.3 on January 01, 2022, 04:15:35 pm
Shame Santa’s bu**ered off back to the North Pole!
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: keith79 on January 01, 2022, 05:04:10 pm
If Portsmouth wanted him gone rovers could say we will take him and pay 30% of his wages. 
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: IDM on January 01, 2022, 05:05:42 pm
Assuming he wants to come here of course, which he may well not.

In that case it doesn’t matter one bit what the finances are..
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: David Pearson on January 01, 2022, 05:08:37 pm
No way will John Marquis becoming back to the rovers.....Not a chance...
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: glosterred on January 01, 2022, 05:10:55 pm
Not sure many would actually expect him to come back if truth be know.


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Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: sheffield exile1 on January 06, 2022, 05:12:53 pm
Portsmouth local press saying Mansfield in running to sign Marquis. If they beat us and it's true I despair!
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: keith79 on January 06, 2022, 05:22:35 pm
How could we afford will Gregg but not marquis?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: DonnyOsmond on January 06, 2022, 05:27:31 pm
McSheffrey said we could go for Marquis he'd just take up most of our budget. Would you prefer someone as good or better than Marquis and 2-3 other players or just John Marquis for nostalgia reasons?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: firestarter on January 06, 2022, 05:39:51 pm

How could we afford will Gregg but not marquis?

Cos we were going to pay for him with sausage rolls
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Super Colin Cramb on January 06, 2022, 05:43:12 pm
Marquis was lucky whilst playing for us. He played in front of Whiteman, Kane, Rowe to name a few. Not sure he would get the service or amount or a large amount goals in front of our current Midfield.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Super Colin Cramb on January 06, 2022, 05:44:40 pm
O yes snd how could I miss out Copps, the assist specialist.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 06, 2022, 06:01:33 pm

How could we afford will Gregg but not marquis?

Cos we were going to pay for him with sausage rolls
Maybe Gregg turned us down because he's an unsavoury person then.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: normal rules on January 06, 2022, 06:18:31 pm
Salarysport.com has Marquis on 5.1k a week in 2021. Only a guide I know. Their top earner is George Hirst. 11k a week
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: normal rules on January 06, 2022, 06:20:00 pm
Same website has dodoo on £1100 per week for 2021.
So you would get 4 dodoo’s for the wages that Marquis is on.and some change .
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: rtid88 on January 06, 2022, 06:24:46 pm
Same website has dodoo on £1100 per week for 2021.
So you would get 4 dodoo’s for the wages that Marquis is on.and some change .
1 Dodoo is 1 too many so no thanks!
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 06, 2022, 06:36:44 pm
Salarysport.com has Marquis on 5.1k a week in 2021. Only a guide I know. Their top earner is George Hirst. 11k a week

Hirst is not their player. He is on loan from Leicester City. Probably on a lot more than 11k.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: roversdude on January 06, 2022, 06:39:27 pm
Surely wages are confidential between club and player. I wouldn’t be pleased if my employer gave any inclination as to what I was paid
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: danumdon on January 06, 2022, 06:41:29 pm
Regardless of us being interested in Marquis or not don't Portsmouth still owe us staged transfer payments with a sell on clause ?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: RoversAlias on January 06, 2022, 07:07:30 pm
Salarysport.com has Marquis on 5.1k a week in 2021. Only a guide I know. Their top earner is George Hirst. 11k a week

Please stop posting information from this website, it is not accurate. Not remotely.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: keith79 on January 06, 2022, 07:23:31 pm
How could we afford will Grigg but not marquis?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 06, 2022, 07:32:31 pm
How could we afford will Grigg but not marquis?

Two different scenarios. Grigg was a loan deal, and he still is on loan at Rotherham.

GM responded to a question about the possibility of signing Marquis on a permanent deal, which as GM said, would eat up alot of his budget.

Ideally, clubs want to get rid on a permanent deal, but if there are no takers then the next best option is loaning them out, which inevitably means they will be in no rush to accept the first offer either way. Hence that's the main reason Griggs deal went to the wire.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: normal rules on January 06, 2022, 07:54:55 pm
Salarysport.com has Marquis on 5.1k a week in 2021. Only a guide I know. Their top earner is George Hirst. 11k a week

Please stop posting information from this website, it is not accurate. Not remotely.

Whilst I accept it would be a guide, what makes you think it is not remotely accurate.?  The figures on there seem pretty specific and reasonable.?
For GM to say he could get four players for the wages of Marquis would be about right.
It has been rumoured that Bogle is on circa 3k a week. Salary sport has him at 2.8 for 2021. If this is not remotely accurate, how much do you think Omar Bogle gets paid?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: ravenrover on January 06, 2022, 09:11:08 pm
Oh come on NR no use qualifying nonsense by saying it's a guide
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: normal rules on January 06, 2022, 09:33:46 pm
Oh come on NR no use qualifying nonsense by saying it's a guide

Semantics. Bogle isn’t on 5k a week, nor is he on 1500.
I believe those figures are remotely accurate.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: wilts rover on January 06, 2022, 09:54:44 pm
Oh come on NR no use qualifying nonsense by saying it's a guide

Semantics. Bogle isn’t on 5k a week, nor is he on 1500.
I believe those figures are remotely accurate.

I believe I can compete in the Tour de France because I own a bike. What specific knowledge do you have to believe those totally inaccurate figures are remotely accurate?
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: normal rules on January 06, 2022, 10:24:17 pm
Oh come on NR no use qualifying nonsense by saying it's a guide

Semantics. Bogle isn’t on 5k a week, nor is he on 1500.
I believe those figures are remotely accurate.

I believe I can compete in the Tour de France because I own a bike. What specific knowledge do you have to believe those totally inaccurate figures are remotely accurate?

Average lge one football club, with an average budget paying average wages .
In a leaked EFL report in 2020, the average high earners in lge one were on
Around £4700 a week. 
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 06, 2022, 10:27:17 pm
Pretty sure from our accounts you can get an idea of our wage bill. I'm not going to do it because of effort but if you really want to have the debate with some real figures that is where to look.

Won't tell you what x player is on but you can get an average then discount the younger players and you can get a closer average of our senior players.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: RoversAlias on January 06, 2022, 10:45:12 pm
Salarysport.com has Marquis on 5.1k a week in 2021. Only a guide I know. Their top earner is George Hirst. 11k a week

Please stop posting information from this website, it is not accurate. Not remotely.

Whilst I accept it would be a guide, what makes you think it is not remotely accurate.?  The figures on there seem pretty specific and reasonable.?
For GM to say he could get four players for the wages of Marquis would be about right.
It has been rumoured that Bogle is on circa 3k a week. Salary sport has him at 2.8 for 2021. If this is not remotely accurate, how much do you think Omar Bogle gets paid?

It is just a random, made up website. If you look at their twitter page, it has hardly any followers and posts crap like "x player could buy 17500 big macs in a year". It is totally fantasy.

I have had cause to know what certain players are on at this level before and a lot of what you've said that website claims is way, way off.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Alickismyhero on January 06, 2022, 10:50:00 pm
I play golf with a pro player who was at Luton. I asked him what he thought an average salary was at Luton and at other league 1 clubs.

His response was that the salaries varied greatly, understandable. He would say an average salary was £1300 to £1500 per week for league 1 clubs

The bigger clubs like Sunderland will be a lot bigger.

Somebody on an earlier thread mentioned Danny Hylton as a possible player my friend said he's is a really nice bloke to have in the team but its a NO from him.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Draytonian III on January 07, 2022, 12:10:50 am
Salarysport.com has Marquis on 5.1k a week in 2021. Only a guide I know. Their top earner is George Hirst. 11k a week







He must have a brilliant agent because he doesn’t score a lot of goals
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: keyser_soze on January 07, 2022, 09:44:13 am
I heard on the grapevine that the board have released sufficient budget that we're nailed on for Lee Gtu

I hope he's a striker.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 07, 2022, 10:41:56 pm
If not Marquis, Portsmouth have another striker they are willing to let go in Ellis Harrison. Goalscoring record not great but he’s certainly impressed against us before.

Can anyone remember the five strikers that the Free Press reported that our recruitment team had identified as alternatives to Grigg (before we tried to land O’Brien, who wasn’t on that list, then ended up with Dodoo, who wasn’t either).

Tom Eaves was definitely one. I can’t remember the others?

Harrison has signed for Fleetwood. Getting announced tomorrow apparently. Not sure if that means he is available for our game. You would hope not.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on January 08, 2022, 12:38:20 am
If not Marquis, Portsmouth have another striker they are willing to let go in Ellis Harrison. Goalscoring record not great but he’s certainly impressed against us before.

Can anyone remember the five strikers that the Free Press reported that our recruitment team had identified as alternatives to Grigg (before we tried to land O’Brien, who wasn’t on that list, then ended up with Dodoo, who wasn’t either).

Tom Eaves was definitely one. I can’t remember the others?

Harrison has signed for Fleetwood. Getting announced tomorrow apparently. Not sure if that means he is available for our game. You would hope not.

Would have to be completed either 12/2 pm on the day before.

Suppose we'll find out in a few hours!
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: jamesrover17 on January 08, 2022, 12:40:54 am
Sounds like Portsmouth are resigned to keeping him until the summer, looks unlikely anyone will take him on his current wages
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: RugbyRover on January 08, 2022, 07:24:16 am
I play golf with a pro player who was at Luton. I asked him what he thought an average salary was at Luton and at other league 1 clubs.

His response was that the salaries varied greatly, understandable. He would say an average salary was £1300 to £1500 per week for league 1 clubs

The bigger clubs like Sunderland will be a lot bigger.

Somebody on an earlier thread mentioned Danny Hylton as a possible player my friend said he's is a really nice bloke to have in the team but its a NO from him.

any particular reason why he wouldn't go with Hylton? Bearing in mind we're only looking for a half season deal.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Alickismyhero on January 08, 2022, 01:58:16 pm
I play golf with a pro player who was at Luton. I asked him what he thought an average salary was at Luton and at other league 1 clubs.

His response was that the salaries varied greatly, understandable. He would say an average salary was £1300 to £1500 per week for league 1 clubs

The bigger clubs like Sunderland will be a lot bigger.

Somebody on an earlier thread mentioned Danny Hylton as a possible player my friend said he's is a really nice bloke to have in the team but its a NO from him.

any particular reason why he wouldn't go with Hylton? Bearing in mind we're only looking for a half season deal.

His inference was that in his opinion he was past it. Just like his golf!
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 08, 2022, 02:02:27 pm
If not Marquis, Portsmouth have another striker they are willing to let go in Ellis Harrison. Goalscoring record not great but he’s certainly impressed against us before.

Can anyone remember the five strikers that the Free Press reported that our recruitment team had identified as alternatives to Grigg (before we tried to land O’Brien, who wasn’t on that list, then ended up with Dodoo, who wasn’t either).

Tom Eaves was definitely one. I can’t remember the others?

Harrison has signed for Fleetwood. Getting announced tomorrow apparently. Not sure if that means he is available for our game. You would hope not.

Would have to be completed either 12/2 pm on the day before.

Suppose we'll find out in a few hours!

He’s signed and starts! Not great.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on January 08, 2022, 02:05:23 pm
Is it Ironside plays for them on loan from united ? Maybe he is coming to us ??


ooops he doesnt even play for Fleetwood   -- how the hell have potless Fleetwood found so much cash behind the sofa ( white fivers are worth about £50 if they have used some to pay)
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: glosterred on January 08, 2022, 06:03:07 pm
If I was John Marquis I wouldn’t come anywhere near the Rovers at the moment, he’d be on a hiding to nothing if he does. We don’t create enough for the strikers we have without bring in a striker with Johns reputation at the Rovers to work on less than scraps



COYR


Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 08, 2022, 06:06:38 pm
If I was John Marquis I wouldn’t come anywhere near the Rovers at the moment, he’d be on a hiding to nothing if he does. We don’t create enough for the strikers we have without bring in a striker with Johns reputation at the Rovers to work on less than scraps



COYR




This is a big issue. Attracting anyone of any calibre is going to be very tough with what is on offer in terms of service.
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: colincramb on January 08, 2022, 06:15:03 pm
But shabby reckoned there would be ‘loads’ of good championship players not getting a game that would come to us. Loads
Title: Re: Not Marquis then
Post by: BobG on January 08, 2022, 06:36:21 pm
IT will simply depend on how much we offer to pay 'em. Pay enough and we could have Messi and Ronaldo. Tne budget is what will determine the calibre of who arrives.

BobG