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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on January 08, 2022, 05:33:01 pm
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
said the same on another thread, other teams have done the same we just have no urgency about us what's so ever
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because our whole organisation is shambolic. Sounds worse than when I worked for the council in the 1990s
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Do we spend money on a 6 month loan deal for an experienced L1 striker or do we attempt to get ahead of the L2 competition and sign someone ready for next season (with the benefit of 6 months at a higher level for the player)?
Of course, we'll do neither and sign someone who ticks neither box and isn't up to the required standard.
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
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Just shows what a little bit of ambition by the Fleetwood board gets you ! Sign him and he scores ! Ain’t rocket science is it !
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
What did we do when we sold players for over £1m?
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
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I suppose we have little to no leverage, and that's why we're stuck waiting for platers. Who wants to potentially further damage their reputation by coming to us?
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
Again, what did we do with the money from the sale of Marquis and Whiteman other than make excuses about it being received in instalments?
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
So we gave Marquis and Whiteman away for free?
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
What did we do when we sold players for over £1m?
Unlike Fleetwood we weren't in a relegation battle when we sold them.
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
Again, what did we do with the money from the sale of Marquis and Whiteman other than make excuses about it being received in instalments?
How the hell do I know I'm not on the board just like you're not.
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
So we gave Marquis and Whiteman away for free?
I doubt it!!
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Don't worry it won't be long before they come for our season ticket money saying this saying that
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I suppose we have little to no leverage, and that's why we're stuck waiting for platers. Who wants to potentially further damage their reputation by coming to us?
Their reputation is the least of their worries. With our inability to manage a players fitness it could be their careers
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Do we spend money on a 6 month loan deal for an experienced L1 striker or do we attempt to get ahead of the L2 competition and sign someone ready for next season (with the benefit of 6 months at a higher level for the player)?
Of course, we'll do neither and sign someone who ticks neither box and isn't up to the required standard.
I’d go for the latter now.
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
What did we do when we sold players for over £1m?
Unlike Fleetwood we weren't in a relegation battle when we sold them.
So you can only spend money when you're in a relegation battle? Odd.
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
Again, what did we do with the money from the sale of Marquis and Whiteman other than make excuses about it being received in instalments?
“It went into improving the infrastructure of the club”
:silly:
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Newcastle are in the crap with a load of £ available and only managed to fetch Tripper in so far , the January transfer window is always a complicated one.I appreciate were desperate but lets see where we are at the end of next week
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Newcastle are in the crap with a load of £ available and only managed to fetch Tripper in so far , the January transfer window is always a complicated one.I appreciate were desperate but lets see where we are at the end of next week
Correct. It's almost as if you can't undo several years of poor transfer business in one January transfer window.
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
Exactly, we sell ours & don't replace them at all.
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
Same answer we sell ours & don't replace them!!
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
What did we do when we sold players for over £1m?
Unlike Fleetwood we weren't in a relegation battle when we sold them.
I don't know any other club that would sell their prize asset & not replace them, whether they're in a relegation battle or not. It's another part of the reason why we are where we are.
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
Again, what did we do with the money from the sale of Marquis and Whiteman other than make excuses about it being received in instalments?
“It went into improving the infrastructure of the club”
:silly:
Shame on you Fleetwood, you should have spent the money elsewhere.
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
You would like to think it should always continue to build the playing squad rather than infrastructure.
Given that 2 substantial players were lost.
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
The Whiteman money went towards keeping the club solvent during a pandemic.
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
This is a fair question as everything seems to be a shambles.
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
What did we do when we sold players for over £1m?
Unlike Fleetwood we weren't in a relegation battle when we sold them.
So you can only spend money when you're in a relegation battle? Odd.
Where did I say that?
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
Begs the question how can clubs like Fleetwood manage it, & we can't (Marquis, Whiteman). Answers on a postcard.
Because they've just received over a million for a player they've sold to Bournemouth!!
Again, what did we do with the money from the sale of Marquis and Whiteman other than make excuses about it being received in instalments?
“It went into improving the infrastructure of the club”
:silly:
That worked out well.
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
Exactly, we sell ours & don't replace them at all.
We don't have that kind of money right at this moment and thats the point.
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
The Whiteman money went towards keeping the club solvent during a pandemic.
What about the Marquis money?
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
The Whiteman money went towards keeping the club solvent during a pandemic.
What about the Marquis money?
training ground I believe
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
Exactly, we sell ours & don't replace them at all.
We don't have that kind of money right at this moment and thats the point.
No the point is, you sell your star striker for good money, then have the foresight to replace him, we didn't do that, other clubs like Fleetwood do.
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
What did we do when we sold players for over £1m?
Unlike Fleetwood we weren't in a relegation battle when we sold them.
I don't know any other club that would sell their prize asset & not replace them, whether they're in a relegation battle or not. It's another part of the reason why we are where we are.
Had we managed to get a decent replacement for Whiteman we might not have had the massive collapse after Christmas.
Who knows where a play off place might have got us.
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Their owners have probably put more in or have taken on debt to fund it. Can't demand how others spend their money i'm afraid so the club was within their rights to use that money for survival rather than take another handout.
With hindsight we're having another handout now to try survive which is next to impossible. So maybe if we reinvested that money we'd be comfortable in L1 now not needing this inevitably wasted substantial cash injection.
Survival of club comes 1st always which is right
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The pandemic is not an excuse for the structural issues at the club or shocking recruitment, as every other club has been through the same pandemic as us.
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Bostock was Whitemans replacement. We also brought in Sims and Bogle. Some of the Whiteman cash must have been used to bring in these players. Again its just massive failures by Darren Moore in recruitment. All 3 werent... and havent stayed fit since they walked through the door and when they have, have not performed. Its time to move forward and get the next part right.
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Maybe to do with the player they sold for a million yesterday
What did we do when we sold players for over £1m?
Unlike Fleetwood we weren't in a relegation battle when we sold them.
I don't know any other club that would sell their prize asset & not replace them, whether they're in a relegation battle or not. It's another part of the reason why we are where we are.
Had we managed to get a decent replacement for Whiteman we might not have had the massive collapse after Christmas.
Who knows where a play off place might have got us.
Not buying this, sorry. We were stealing results for a while before his departure. Ok, we were getting results but the performances weren’t great. A lot is us we’re saying this for sometime but we’re ridiculed for pointing it out.
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
The Whiteman money went towards keeping the club solvent during a pandemic.
This pandemic has a lot to answer for. Must have been particularly bad around the Doncaster area as Rovers appear to be suffering as a result of it a lot more than other clubs.
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
The Whiteman money went towards keeping the club solvent during a pandemic.
This pandemic has a lot to answer for. Must have been particularly bad around the Doncaster area as Rovers appear to be suffering as a result of it a lot more than other clubs.
Meanwhile Accrington, on their crowds of 10 men and a dead dog are comfortable in upper mid table. This covid nonsense is the most convenient excuse I’ve ever head. It’s warring very thin
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Grow up. Football is a game of so many variables. Of course covid is a factor - one of many factors.
Why shouldn’t the club use the Whiteman money to stay solvent? Accrington (cited above) have spent less than us and are doing better because the game is just not that simple. That’s what we love about it.
Get a grip.
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I didn't get chance to raise this before the game, given Fleetwoods signing of Harrison. How have they circumvented their transfer embargo ?
https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/andy-pilley-on-fleetwood-town-transfer-embargo-i-acted-in-clubs-best-interests-and-would-make-same-decision-again-3493513
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
The Whiteman money went towards keeping the club solvent during a pandemic.
This pandemic has a lot to answer for. Must have been particularly bad around the Doncaster area as Rovers appear to be suffering as a result of it a lot more than other clubs.
Meanwhile Accrington, on their crowds of 10 men and a dead dog are comfortable in upper mid table. This covid nonsense is the most convenient excuse I’ve ever head. It’s warring very thin
All that means is the manager has done better with his budget surely??
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I didn't get chance to raise this before the game, given Fleetwoods signing of Harrison. How have they circumvented their transfer embargo ?
https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/andy-pilley-on-fleetwood-town-transfer-embargo-i-acted-in-clubs-best-interests-and-would-make-same-decision-again-3493513
Interesting, that would suggest that Harrison didn’t cost that much in wages, the transfer fee was undisclosed
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I didn't get chance to raise this before the game, given Fleetwoods signing of Harrison. How have they circumvented their transfer embargo ?
https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/andy-pilley-on-fleetwood-town-transfer-embargo-i-acted-in-clubs-best-interests-and-would-make-same-decision-again-3493513
Well it looks like Fleetwood are still under embargo per the EFL website. There is no information on EFL website or Fleetwood end to state their embargo has been lifted
The rules of the embargo are as follows
During a Transfer Window
Clubs can ‘staff up’, so they have 23 players of Professional Standing within their squad.
Clubs are able to ‘staff up’ to ensure the integrity of the competitions remain and so that Clubs are able to fulfil their fixtures.
Clubs are only permitted to ‘staff up’ by signing players on loan or players not registered with another ClubClubs cannot pay fees to acquire loan players and cannot pay additional wages on top of the salary the player receives at their parent ClubClubs ‘staffing up’ may only register players until the end of the current Season, whilst loan transfers can only be for half a seasonBudget restrictions apply dependent upon the divisional status of the Club under embargo.
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Harrison had quality, he’s on fortunes and has real attitude issues. Not certain to end well.
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I didn't get chance to raise this before the game, given Fleetwoods signing of Harrison. How have they circumvented their transfer embargo ?
https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/andy-pilley-on-fleetwood-town-transfer-embargo-i-acted-in-clubs-best-interests-and-would-make-same-decision-again-3493513
Well it looks like Fleetwood are still under embargo per the EFL website. There is no information on EFL website or Fleetwood end to state their embargo has been lifted
The rules of the embargo are as follows
During a Transfer Window
Clubs can ‘staff up’, so they have 23 players of Professional Standing within their squad.
Clubs are able to ‘staff up’ to ensure the integrity of the competitions remain and so that Clubs are able to fulfil their fixtures.
Clubs are only permitted to ‘staff up’ by signing players on loan or players not registered with another ClubClubs cannot pay fees to acquire loan players and cannot pay additional wages on top of the salary the player receives at their parent ClubClubs ‘staffing up’ may only register players until the end of the current Season, whilst loan transfers can only be for half a seasonBudget restrictions apply dependent upon the divisional status of the Club under embargo.
In our position questions must be asked to the EFL as to wether they have broken the embargo and thus played an inelegible play who scored the winning goal
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Reading the above they've 100% broken the embargo so we need to be appealing it. Unless the embargo ended when they sold their man for a decent fee...
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I'm going to speak to someone tomorrow. It maybe they have paid back their loan and the embargo lifted but there's no information available to confirm this or their website updated.
When I saw the rumours linking Harrison I treated it as clickbait as I knew of the embargo, so was surprised to see he'd signed.
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I'm going to speak to someone tomorrow. It maybe they have paid back their loan and the embargo lifted but there's no information available to confirm this or their website updated.
When I saw the rumours linking Harrison I treated it as clickbait as I knew of the embargo, so was surprised to see he'd signed.
They are allowed to replace players that have left the club. They would just ask the EFL for permission.
A transfer embargo does not mean you can’t do any business at all, just very restricted in what you can do.
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we need a Harrison (or 2 ) !
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He was out of contract this summer, which is why he didn’t cost much if anything in terms of transfer fees. His wages will have been substantial though. Portsmouth pay well.
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I watched 18 Dappers preview of Saturdays game and he had a Fleetwood fan on, they spoke about the embargo and he said that they are only allowed to have a certain number of players in the squad so we’re allowed to bring Harrison in because James Hill went to Bournemouth.
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How did the money brought in from the Marquis and Whiteman deals improve the infrastructure of our club. What has improved since then?.
The Whiteman money went towards keeping the club solvent during a pandemic.
Do keeping their own brass in pocket . Forward thinking or just tight arsed as usual .
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Going on what's been said about the effect covid had on income and how we had to cut back which is fair enough an this extra money is available cause we no cleared a debt our budget should go up again in the summer I we stay up o be one of I not the biggest in l2.
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Going on what's been said about the effect covid had on income and how we had to cut back which is fair enough an this extra money is available cause we no cleared a debt our budget should go up again in the summer I we stay up o be one of I not the biggest in l2.
looks like going down and having a further clear out is the more likely out come now . Yet with decent budget this will hopefully attract the right type of players this time ..or not .
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Every club has had to deal with the pandemic, no doubt there is a bit less money around, and things are moving slower. No excuse to not get deals over the line if you want to compete. There has been plenty of time.
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Is the owner of Fleetwood still renting one of offices at club for a massive price for one his businesses as an income dodge
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Fleetwood needed a striker they get their man and he scores the winner, Doncaster Rovers need a striker desperately, what do Doncaster Rovers do? Sit on their f**king hands, thats what they do!
They’ve sold him on already. Only there 6 months and sold to Port Vale for a fee.