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Title: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Arsenal Of The North on January 12, 2022, 03:01:16 pm
As per subject
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ChrisBx on January 12, 2022, 03:03:08 pm
He will certainly improve us, however I have some reservations about signing him on an 18 month contract given his career trajectory of late.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: firestarter on January 12, 2022, 03:04:06 pm
Twitter in meltdown already .. some of our fans are unbelievable
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: RoversAlias on January 12, 2022, 03:06:30 pm
A perfectly fine signing. Not going to change the world but he is capable, has lots of experience and has scored in League One for years. He has had several excellent seasons at this level, can also score goals in League Two (where we are likely heading) and even has a couple of goals to his name this season with Plymouth.

So it's a decent start to the window for us, just need to keep it going now and get some more through the door.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: vaya on January 12, 2022, 03:07:23 pm
He will certainly improve us

Presumably he's currently able to walk unaided.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Metalmicky on January 12, 2022, 03:08:00 pm
Can't say I'm doing cartwheels - but will give the lad a chance...
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Arsenal Of The North on January 12, 2022, 03:10:39 pm
Can't say I'm doing cartwheels - but will give the lad a chance...

What kind of signing are you expecting? Certainly aren’t going to get anyone in January who’s thriving, they come at a premium.

It’s a good signing that gives us a chance of goals at this level but with vast experience of league 2 which realistically we are staring down the barrel at!

Please everyone set expectations at a reasonable level.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Canadian Rover on January 12, 2022, 03:12:16 pm
Certainly an upgrade on Vilca/Cukur. Gives us more of a chance of goals and assists for sure...hopefully we'll see a few more come in too.

Welcome to DRFC Agard.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Jonathan on January 12, 2022, 03:12:33 pm
A perfectly fine signing. Not going to change the world but he is capable, has lots of experience and has scored in League One for years. He has had several excellent seasons at this level, can also score goals in League Two (where we are likely heading) and even has a couple of goals to his name this season with Plymouth.

So it's a decent start to the window for us, just need to keep it going now and get some more through the door.

A fair assessment.

I don’t think he’s a ‘game changer’ signing by any means, but he’ll improve us. And you’d hope he leaves a decent amount of budget for signings elsewhere.

Question will be, do we deploy him as a centre forward or in one of the wide positions?
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: roversdude on January 12, 2022, 03:16:01 pm
A decent signing good work GMc and GB
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 12, 2022, 03:17:12 pm
Looking at his goals he's very much a 6 yard box striker.  We don't have one of those so it seems a logical signing.

You judge it on improvements and is he better than Cukur? Absolutely he is.

We'd all love a proven top striker, it isn't happening. We do need experience though undoubtedly.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Butchers Red on January 12, 2022, 03:19:11 pm
Better than I expected - if he is fit and uninjured will make a massive difference
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 12, 2022, 03:23:40 pm
A perfectly fine signing. Not going to change the world but he is capable, has lots of experience and has scored in League One for years. He has had several excellent seasons at this level, can also score goals in League Two (where we are likely heading) and even has a couple of goals to his name this season with Plymouth.

So it's a decent start to the window for us, just need to keep it going now and get some more through the door.

A fair assessment.

I don’t think he’s a ‘game changer’ signing by any means, but he’ll improve us. And you’d hope he leaves a decent amount of budget for signings elsewhere.

Question will be, do we deploy him as a centre forward or in one of the wide positions?
Or if we sign a Left sided defender and play 352 he could be one of the two.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Metalmicky on January 12, 2022, 03:25:39 pm
Can't say I'm doing cartwheels - but will give the lad a chance...

What kind of signing are you expecting? Certainly aren’t going to get anyone in January who’s thriving, they come at a premium.

It’s a good signing that gives us a chance of goals at this level but with vast experience of league 2 which realistically we are staring down the barrel at!

Please everyone set expectations at a reasonable level.

Don't worry - my expectations are fully in-check.  However, he hasn't played since he picked up an ankle injury on 26 December... so I would imagine that, if his injury is OK, he might take a while to get up to speed.  Hopefully he will be a roaring success.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: MachoMadness on January 12, 2022, 03:27:22 pm
Journeyman, experienced, bit of football nous about him. Only question mark for me is his fitness. Potentially a shrewd signing if we can get him any sort of service.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Donny Exile in York on January 12, 2022, 03:30:15 pm
A perfectly fine signing. Not going to change the world but he is capable, has lots of experience and has scored in League One for years. He has had several excellent seasons at this level, can also score goals in League Two (where we are likely heading) and even has a couple of goals to his name this season with Plymouth.

So it's a decent start to the window for us, just need to keep it going now and get some more through the door.

Agreed track record decent, a definite improvement on what we've got (Okenbirhie excluded as injured).
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 12, 2022, 03:39:24 pm
Looks like a decent signing on paper.

I still worry we have no one up top who can get the ball down and bring people in.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: DearneValleyRover on January 12, 2022, 03:40:48 pm
He’s also very good at motivating those around him and in the dressing room stopping heads from dropping apparently and we all know we are short of that.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Danmckay456 on January 12, 2022, 03:41:05 pm
 Better than what we have and always willing to give a new player a chance , we are due a decent one in fairness just need a supply and some bite in midfield to stand a chance of winning games
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Super Colin Cramb on January 12, 2022, 03:42:55 pm

Don't worry - my expectations are fully in-check.  However, he hasn't played since he picked up an ankle injury on 26 December... so I would imagine that, if his injury is OK, he might take a while to get up to speed.  Hopefully he will be a roaring success.

26th of December is only just over 2 weeks ago, so won’t take too long to get back up to speed surely. I wouldn’t imagine we sign someone who isn’t fit. 
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: dickos1 on January 12, 2022, 03:51:39 pm
Can't say I'm doing cartwheels - but will give the lad a chance...

What kind of signing are you expecting? Certainly aren’t going to get anyone in January who’s thriving, they come at a premium.

It’s a good signing that gives us a chance of goals at this level but with vast experience of league 2 which realistically we are staring down the barrel at!

Please everyone set expectations at a reasonable level.

Don't worry - my expectations are fully in-check.  However, he hasn't played since he picked up an ankle injury on 26 December... so I would imagine that, if his injury is OK, he might take a while to get up to speed.  Hopefully he will be a roaring success.

26th December was Plymouth’s last league game, so by that logic all the Plymouth side need time to get up to speed
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Campsall rover on January 12, 2022, 03:53:05 pm
Good signing.
Anyone expecting better in the Jan window needs to get real.

He has over 100 goals in the football league.
Penalty area goal poacher.
Good movement, works hard.
Massive improvement on what we have now.
Well he should be.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Metalmicky on January 12, 2022, 04:01:12 pm
Can't say I'm doing cartwheels - but will give the lad a chance...

What kind of signing are you expecting? Certainly aren’t going to get anyone in January who’s thriving, they come at a premium.

It’s a good signing that gives us a chance of goals at this level but with vast experience of league 2 which realistically we are staring down the barrel at!

Please everyone set expectations at a reasonable level.

Don't worry - my expectations are fully in-check.  However, he hasn't played since he picked up an ankle injury on 26 December... so I would imagine that, if his injury is OK, he might take a while to get up to speed.  Hopefully he will be a roaring success.

26th December was Plymouth’s last league game, so by that logic all the Plymouth side need time to get up to speed

Stop trying to be a smart arse.... they actually played on the 8 Jan - but my point was he hasn't played for nearly 3 weeks and we don't know how much of that time he was unable to train...
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: dickos1 on January 12, 2022, 04:05:24 pm
Can't say I'm doing cartwheels - but will give the lad a chance...

What kind of signing are you expecting? Certainly aren’t going to get anyone in January who’s thriving, they come at a premium.

It’s a good signing that gives us a chance of goals at this level but with vast experience of league 2 which realistically we are staring down the barrel at!

Please everyone set expectations at a reasonable level.

Don't worry - my expectations are fully in-check.  However, he hasn't played since he picked up an ankle injury on 26 December... so I would imagine that, if his injury is OK, he might take a while to get up to speed.  Hopefully he will be a roaring success.

26th December was Plymouth’s last league game, so by that logic all the Plymouth side need time to get up to speed

Stop trying to be a smart arse.... they actually played on the 8 Jan - but my point was he hasn't played for nearly 3 weeks and we don't know how much of that time he was unable to train...

Not trying to be nothing,
But your point was that he may need time to get back into it, but surely that’s the case for the whole Plymouth team then
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: oggycompton on January 12, 2022, 04:06:24 pm
Good signing for Rovers. Hopefully first of many.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Metalmicky on January 12, 2022, 04:15:43 pm
Can't say I'm doing cartwheels - but will give the lad a chance...

What kind of signing are you expecting? Certainly aren’t going to get anyone in January who’s thriving, they come at a premium.

It’s a good signing that gives us a chance of goals at this level but with vast experience of league 2 which realistically we are staring down the barrel at!

Please everyone set expectations at a reasonable level.

Don't worry - my expectations are fully in-check.  However, he hasn't played since he picked up an ankle injury on 26 December... so I would imagine that, if his injury is OK, he might take a while to get up to speed.  Hopefully he will be a roaring success.

26th December was Plymouth’s last league game, so by that logic all the Plymouth side need time to get up to speed

Stop trying to be a smart arse.... they actually played on the 8 Jan - but my point was he hasn't played for nearly 3 weeks and we don't know how much of that time he was unable to train...

Not trying to be nothing,
But your point was that he may need time to get back into it, but surely that’s the case for the whole Plymouth team then

I've JUST pointed out why - and that the team played on 8 Jan...
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: mushRTID on January 12, 2022, 04:17:01 pm
The Plymouth fans comments on their club tweet about him leaving are positive. Some surprised and disappointed he’s gone.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 12, 2022, 04:19:59 pm
Got to be pleased with this. We deffo needed a striker and he's hopefully an improvement to the squad and better than the one released back to Watford.

A step in the right direction and I have a feeling he might be backed up by a young hungry loan striker/forward.

Midfield and maybe defence to add to hopefully too.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Upton Rover on January 12, 2022, 04:22:03 pm
Looks a good prospect
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Bezza on January 12, 2022, 04:39:33 pm
32 years old , experienced,scored plenty of goals, exactly what we need, good start GM,
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Cramby10 on January 12, 2022, 04:52:59 pm
This signing worries me if I’m honest. He last played regularly in the 18/19 season. He’s had injuries of late too. I sincerely hope I’m wrong and bangs a load in but this signing reminds me of a Bruce Dyer or Darren Byfield type of signing, meaning they were previously good players with great pedigree but in the twilight of their careers. And they didn’t work out.
Like I say, I hope I’m wrong and hope there are 2 more strikers to come in to compliment him. We can’t have Dodoo, Hiwula or Barlow as first choice starters if we want to achieve anything.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 12, 2022, 05:05:48 pm
This signing, plus Seaman coming back brings new energy to the team. It presents GM with better options and a chance to stir things up a little.

Hiwula perhaps needs to step back a little and regroup. I'm sure GM won't give up on him and will do everything to get the player out of him. We don't want to be wasting the pace he has in his locker but he needs something to get him out of the rut he's in.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 12, 2022, 05:17:29 pm
Given the position we find ourselves, this lad seems a good acquisition.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: normal rules on January 12, 2022, 05:22:04 pm
This is good. Some planning for next season at last. A free also.
I’ll judge him on performances.
He should have enough wool his back to help influence some of the younger players.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: The Beast on January 12, 2022, 05:26:30 pm
He will certainly improve us, however I have some reservations about signing him on an 18 month contract given his career trajectory of late.
Any Player of any type of standing will not accept a six month contract, you've got to offer a bit of a carrot to get players in, else you get Thomas and Bingham. It seems the club are damned if they do damned if they don't with some.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 12, 2022, 05:40:45 pm
Realistically we are down. There is no logic to sign anyone for 6 months.

If we can get a decent number on contracts until the end of next year, it saves the need for high turnaround at summer, and each player can be evaluated next season.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: drfchound on January 12, 2022, 05:53:56 pm
Given the position we find ourselves, this lad seems a good acquisition.

Agreed and he is our player, not on loan, so we won’t have to search again in the summer.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Pliskin on January 12, 2022, 06:06:01 pm
If he scores enough to keep us up this season then great!

If not then he'll surely be a good asset for next season in League 2.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Rovers91 on January 12, 2022, 06:12:56 pm
Think this is a good signing, we need experience and he knows the league but what he will do is graft and put effort in.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Upton Rover on January 12, 2022, 06:13:46 pm
Never seemed to be the same player since he could not agree terms with Leeds in 2014 after the club agreed terms with Rotherham he then went to Bristol City and seemed to struggle
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: waldron40 on January 12, 2022, 06:28:04 pm
Any Player of any type of standing will not accept a six month contract, you've got to offer a bit of a carrot to get players in, else you get Thomas and Bingham. It seems the club are damned if they do damned if they don't with some.
Agard accepted a 5 month contract at Plymouth
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Jonathan on January 12, 2022, 06:45:41 pm
It’s a good addition as long as we complement that with more good additions, and fast. We need more than one new player to be able to compete on Saturday, and then we have a huge game at Cambridge on Tuesday. We need at least one or two more by then. And another one or two by the end of the window. That’s not being greedy, it’s realism.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: anton123 on January 12, 2022, 06:47:05 pm
Yes he should of signed instead of dodoo but he’s here now so best of luck to the lad
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 12, 2022, 06:52:03 pm
Solid signing. Not of the standard to keep us up but i don't think those players exist in any attainable sense. Also if he stays fit you can see him scoring plenty in L2.

Need to work on our supply into the forwards now it can't always be the forwards fault for not scoring.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: DRFCSouth on January 12, 2022, 06:58:11 pm
Good signing. Lots of experience and a decent goals per games ratio.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 12, 2022, 07:02:05 pm
Get everyone fit we should give league 2 a right go next season.

We need further signings to be better than the likes of Barlow Dodoo Horton and Bogle if we are to stay up.
This for me is a start.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Alan Southstand on January 12, 2022, 07:07:44 pm
Defensive midfield destroyer an absolute priority. And a quality left back not far behind him, in terms of priority.

Signing just Agard doesn’t exactly improve anything as we’re hardly getting into the final third, never mind creating chances. An improvement on Cukur, granted, but the wife would have been an improvement on him.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 12, 2022, 07:15:58 pm
Surprised to see the only time he played against us was last Sept for 2 mins plus added time.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 12, 2022, 07:27:45 pm
Defensive midfield destroyer an absolute priority. And a quality left back not far behind him, in terms of priority.

Signing just Agard doesn’t exactly improve anything as we’re hardly getting into the final third, never mind creating chances. An improvement on Cukur, granted, but the wife would have been an improvement on him.

He's better than Dodoo and Bogle as well.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: drfchound on January 12, 2022, 07:43:22 pm
Good signing. Lots of experience and a decent goals per games ratio.

His goals per game average is only a bit worse that that of Marquis.
3.62 against 3.15
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: DRFCSouth on January 12, 2022, 07:50:15 pm
Good signing. Lots of experience and a decent goals per games ratio.

His goals per game average is only a bit worse that that of Marquis.
3.62 against 3.15
It's definitely a good signing on paper.

Just need to provide for him. That's the next issue.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: scawsby steve on January 12, 2022, 07:52:03 pm
If he's lucky enough to avoid injuries, this is a decent signing.

He's certainly in a different league to Cukur, Dodoo, Hiwula , and Bogle.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 12, 2022, 07:54:23 pm
If he's lucky enough to avoid injuries, this is a decent signing.

He's certainly in a different league to Cukur, Dodoo, Hiwula , and Bogle.

Let's just hope he doesn't turn into Hiwula. Hiwula was a good signing too.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: SydneyRover on January 12, 2022, 08:21:36 pm
Great news, hopefully his signing will encourage others, without a striker where would the wins we need come from?
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Canadian Rover on January 12, 2022, 08:23:48 pm
If he's lucky enough to avoid injuries, this is a decent signing.

He's certainly in a different league to Cukur, Dodoo, Hiwula , and Bogle.

Let's just hope he doesn't turn into Hiwula. Hiwula was a good signing too.

I've been  a big critic of Hiwula (due to his lack of effort) that doesn't mean he can't turn it around. Vilca & Cukur can't have been much of an inspiration or competition team wise...maybe an uplift in quality around him can bring his levels up too.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 12, 2022, 08:28:33 pm
If he's lucky enough to avoid injuries, this is a decent signing.

He's certainly in a different league to Cukur, Dodoo, Hiwula , and Bogle.

Let's just hope he doesn't turn into Hiwula. Hiwula was a good signing too.

I've been  a big critic of Hiwula (due to his lack of effort) that doesn't mean he can't turn it around. Vilca & Cukur can't have been much of an inspiration or competition team wise...maybe an uplift in quality around him can bring his levels up too.

Agree with this. Hiwula has been really disappointing but if he sorts out his confidence he could come good. Not sure how we go about sorting his issues out it looks like it'll take a bit of time away from the side and a fresh start imo
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: RoversAlias on January 12, 2022, 08:43:56 pm
Never seemed to be the same player since he could not agree terms with Leeds in 2014 after the club agreed terms with Rotherham he then went to Bristol City and seemed to struggle

I don't think that's right at all. He scored plenty for Bristol City that year as they got promoted, he had another double figure scoring season in League One at MK and then scored 20 odd goals for them in League Two. We wouldn't balk at those goal returns now in either league.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: roversdude on January 12, 2022, 09:01:56 pm
It sounds like he will bring some leadership as well as (hopefully) goals. We just need to be able to create the chances now - great signing though
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: rabjohns on January 12, 2022, 09:03:03 pm
Just seen his interview and he genuinely looks happy to be here.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on January 12, 2022, 09:17:14 pm
Just seen his interview and he genuinely looks happy to be here.


We'll soon see to that.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Upton Rover on January 12, 2022, 09:47:52 pm
Never seemed to be the same player since he could not agree terms with Leeds in 2014 after the club agreed terms with Rotherham he then went to Bristol City and seemed to struggle

I don't think that's right at all. He scored plenty for Bristol City that year as they got promoted, he had another double figure scoring season in League One at MK and then scored 20 odd goals for them in League Two. We wouldn't balk at those goal returns now in either league.
I just remember his Championship season with Bristol City and he did struggle never quite made it at championship level 2 goals in that season, granted was a better L1 player when playing at MKD ,
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Dagenham Rover on January 12, 2022, 09:51:55 pm
Decent experienced signing around league 1 and 2   just what we need
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Michael Shaw on January 12, 2022, 10:30:13 pm
We have a deep hole to climb out of. After Cukur and Vilca he is just what we need to bring some experience and quality to the squad. Good luck to him and a good start to the new signings.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Barmby Rover on January 12, 2022, 10:34:32 pm
21 league goals in the last 5 seasons playing in Lg.1 Scored 20 in Lg.2 when MKD went down.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Jonathan on January 12, 2022, 10:40:16 pm
Nice tweet from Jordan Houghton - “great guy for a great club”
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Donny Exile in York on January 12, 2022, 11:43:49 pm
Nice tweet from Jordan Houghton - “great guy for a great club”

Shame we can't get Houghton back too.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: MagicMartinoWoods on January 13, 2022, 12:11:36 am
I'm hoping with more experienced players coming in to offer leadership, it could take pressure off of Rowe and Big Tom from being the only leaders in the team and, particularly in Tom's case, allow him to find a bit of form when he returns
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on January 13, 2022, 02:04:41 am
I can’t see anything but positive signing Agard. Good experience, good instincts around the area, hard working. Fresh blood and new ideas, it just gives the place a little boost. Be careful with him if we can, by all means start him ,but ease him in also.
A young striker on loan would give it a good balance. Somebody who comes here and sees it as an opportunity to improve themselves.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: colincramb on January 13, 2022, 07:57:58 am
Happy enough with this as a start for next next season. Don’t think he’s the messiah to save us this year, it’s too late for that now unfortunately. Brings some experience.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Bailey Vickerage on January 13, 2022, 08:02:51 am
Very good signing imo. We were never going to sign someone who has scored 10+ goals already this season and is playing regularly but we have signed someone with a lot of experience in this league and is a proven goalscorer throughout his career. He’s also supposed to be a great person to have in the dressing room and on the pitch with his work rate and experience.

He’s not gonna get us to safety on his own but he’s a good addition and we need to bring 1 or 2 more in to create the chances for him and give us the best possible chance to stay up.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: pafcprogs on January 13, 2022, 11:53:56 am
Quick note from your occasional Argyle contributor.

So Agard was signed as cover as we lost Niall Ennis in the warm up at the start of the season opener at Rotherham. Mainly a bench player for us, with very few minutes.....scored in his two Trophy games against the youth teams and then netted the winner in a. somewhat surprise start v Charlton just before Xmas. Good clam finish ( although he also missed an absolute sitter)

So he was never seen as a long term option for us , although Shumacher gave him a chance ...but suspect we might be aiming to sign Garrick permanently from the Swans if they will sell. One positive was all the feedback was he was a model pro and very good for dressing room morale...indeed when he scored the congrats from teammates were effusive. So if you need leaders he will seemingly do a job for you in that regard.

He was only ever on a six month deal and in many ways it worked for both sides...we got cover..he got fit, got game time and got a few goals and we were never going to give him a two year deal as that's not the model for us any more for players of his age.....so I hope with one obvious exception that he does the business for you....especially if it pulls Fleetwood back into the mix.

Houghton has been splendid for us....but was he yellow card prone when he was with you as he seems to pick them up regularly for us....

Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: normal rules on January 13, 2022, 11:58:22 am
What’s the beef with Fleetwood?
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on January 13, 2022, 12:03:11 pm
I would say we need another five. That left back role needs filling with some experience, with Horton being able to act as back up, and he can learn from someone who has the experience, there is potential there.

The defensive midfielder role needs filling, the one mentioned in the rumour mill would fill that. A bit of power and know how if we got him.

I think personally an experienced central defender is needed, even when we have Tom Anderson back we are not keeping enough clean sheets.

A young player loan player or someone with a bit of energy and experience, for a provider of chances for the striker we’ve just signed.Again the rumour mill has that player in there who used to play for us.

A young loan striker out to prove something. See’s us as an opportunity to play and score goals. Or the recognised striker who used to play for us if we can do a deal on his wages.
If we fill those roles we can stay up.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: DearneValleyRover on January 13, 2022, 02:42:59 pm
Quick note from your occasional Argyle contributor.

So Agard was signed as cover as we lost Niall Ennis in the warm up at the start of the season opener at Rotherham. Mainly a bench player for us, with very few minutes.....scored in his two Trophy games against the youth teams and then netted the winner in a. somewhat surprise start v Charlton just before Xmas. Good clam finish ( although he also missed an absolute sitter)

So he was never seen as a long term option for us , although Shumacher gave him a chance ...but suspect we might be aiming to sign Garrick permanently from the Swans if they will sell. One positive was all the feedback was he was a model pro and very good for dressing room morale...indeed when he scored the congrats from teammates were effusive. So if you need leaders he will seemingly do a job for you in that regard.

He was only ever on a six month deal and in many ways it worked for both sides...we got cover..he got fit, got game time and got a few goals and we were never going to give him a two year deal as that's not the model for us any more for players of his age.....so I hope with one obvious exception that he does the business for you....especially if it pulls Fleetwood back into the mix.

Houghton has been splendid for us....but was he yellow card prone when he was with you as he seems to pick them up regularly for us....



Thanks for taking the time to give us some insight. In respect to Houghton, yes he always looked likely to pick a card or 2 up, mind he is what we are missing.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Jonathan on January 13, 2022, 08:24:08 pm
Quick note from your occasional Argyle contributor.

So Agard was signed as cover as we lost Niall Ennis in the warm up at the start of the season opener at Rotherham. Mainly a bench player for us, with very few minutes.....scored in his two Trophy games against the youth teams and then netted the winner in a. somewhat surprise start v Charlton just before Xmas. Good clam finish ( although he also missed an absolute sitter)

So he was never seen as a long term option for us , although Shumacher gave him a chance ...but suspect we might be aiming to sign Garrick permanently from the Swans if they will sell. One positive was all the feedback was he was a model pro and very good for dressing room morale...indeed when he scored the congrats from teammates were effusive. So if you need leaders he will seemingly do a job for you in that regard.

He was only ever on a six month deal and in many ways it worked for both sides...we got cover..he got fit, got game time and got a few goals and we were never going to give him a two year deal as that's not the model for us any more for players of his age.....so I hope with one obvious exception that he does the business for you....especially if it pulls Fleetwood back into the mix.

Houghton has been splendid for us....but was he yellow card prone when he was with you as he seems to pick them up regularly for us....



Houghton is one of my favourite loan players that we’ve had. Was great for us over two years, really seemed to buy into the values of the club and I was gutted when we couldn’t agree a deal to sign him. We really miss a player like that nowadays. Positionally extremely smart, strong in the tackle, received the ball well and tended to retain possession with a decent passing range. I wouldn’t say he was a walking yellow card as such, but his lack of pace probably meant there were a few late challenges / tactical fouls.

Happy to hear he’s doing well.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ravenrover on January 13, 2022, 08:42:09 pm
It was his Mrs we couldn't agree a deal wiith, by all accounts she wanted to move back South
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: roversdude on January 13, 2022, 09:12:32 pm
Houghton great player, brilliant clubman
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Plumbster on January 13, 2022, 09:14:06 pm
Was it Grimsby away when he was in the crowd with us
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Janso on January 13, 2022, 10:12:33 pm
Was it Grimsby away when he was in the crowd with us

Wycombe.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 13, 2022, 10:50:50 pm
On the face of it, the signing of Agard appears to be a positive one and i'm really happy that the club and GM have managed to bring him in on an 18 month deal. If he stays fit then i can't see him being anything other than a success in League 2.

I say League 2 because, despite it being a new year and me trying to gradually become a more enlightened glass half full man, to think that we can survive this season given the points deficit and the  consistency in delivering toothless, sterile performances pretty much every week now, i can't believe in miracles.

Agard though is just the positive news that we need to start the new year. More please.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: BigH on January 14, 2022, 06:49:24 am
Quick note from your occasional Argyle contributor.

So Agard was signed as cover as we lost Niall Ennis in the warm up at the start of the season opener at Rotherham. Mainly a bench player for us, with very few minutes.....scored in his two Trophy games against the youth teams and then netted the winner in a. somewhat surprise start v Charlton just before Xmas. Good clam finish ( although he also missed an absolute sitter)

So he was never seen as a long term option for us , although Shumacher gave him a chance ...but suspect we might be aiming to sign Garrick permanently from the Swans if they will sell. One positive was all the feedback was he was a model pro and very good for dressing room morale...indeed when he scored the congrats from teammates were effusive. So if you need leaders he will seemingly do a job for you in that regard.

He was only ever on a six month deal and in many ways it worked for both sides...we got cover..he got fit, got game time and got a few goals and we were never going to give him a two year deal as that's not the model for us any more for players of his age.....so I hope with one obvious exception that he does the business for you....especially if it pulls Fleetwood back into the mix.

Houghton has been splendid for us....but was he yellow card prone when he was with you as he seems to pick them up regularly for us....



Houghton is one of my favourite loan players that we’ve had. Was great for us over two years, really seemed to buy into the values of the club and I was gutted when we couldn’t agree a deal to sign him. We really miss a player like that nowadays. Positionally extremely smart, strong in the tackle, received the ball well and tended to retain possession with a decent passing range. I wouldn’t say he was a walking yellow card as such, but his lack of pace probably meant there were a few late challenges / tactical fouls.

Happy to hear he’s doing well.
Bang on, JH was great for us. Absolutely the type of player we've been missing this season and, arguably, a measure of how our recruitment standards have fallen in recent times.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 05, 2022, 07:23:10 pm
Bit concerned he's not being used of late. Can't grumble today but i think he's a very decent player and i'm surprised he's not getting any game time.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Canadian Rover on February 05, 2022, 07:37:49 pm
He's gonna be needed. He'll be good competition for the young lads and a good influence around the club too.

He's way better quality wise than Dodoo (especially as a CF) but we do have a squad now and Joe is a part of that too.

All hands on deck.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 09, 2022, 10:05:53 am
Why did GM sign Agard on an 18 month contract? Baffling. Dangerous player with movement. Barely used now. Anyone know of any reasons given by GM?
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: GazLaz on February 09, 2022, 10:13:51 am
Why did GM sign Agard on an 18 month contract? Baffling. Dangerous player with movement. Barely used now. Anyone know of any reasons given by GM?

He’s only not featured in the last couple of games. Hardly proves it’s a terrible signing.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 09, 2022, 10:20:27 am
Why did GM sign Agard on an 18 month contract? Baffling. Dangerous player with movement. Barely used now. Anyone know of any reasons given by GM?

He’s only not featured in the last couple of games. Hardly proves it’s a terrible signing.

He's not a terrible signing. He's a good signing. Which is why i'm asking why is he not being used? Especially when we need a goal against Ipswich and Barlow gets brought on? Don't get it. He should be starting ahead of Mipu IMO.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: The Beast on February 09, 2022, 10:48:18 am
Why did GM sign Agard on an 18 month contract? Baffling. Dangerous player with movement. Barely used now. Anyone know of any reasons given by GM?

He’s only not featured in the last couple of games. Hardly proves it’s a terrible signing.

He's not a terrible signing. He's a good signing. Which is why i'm asking why is he not being used? Especially when we need a goal against Ipswich and Barlow gets brought on? Don't get it. He should be starting ahead of Mipu IMO.

Was puzzled/bemused by the Barlow substitution, Seaman was offering nothing was getting bullied, right move to bring him off but then we bring Barlow who offers zero in physicality and pace, the Ipswich left back was just ushering him off the ball like he was a ten year old kid, while we’ve got Agard and Dodoo sat on the bench! Strange one for me.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 09, 2022, 07:39:38 pm
Yep. No explanation given from the manager either.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: keith79 on February 09, 2022, 08:07:56 pm
Probably not fit.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 09, 2022, 08:14:24 pm
It's expected that Mibo will start every game he'll have conditions meaning that pretty much has to be the case in his loan. Would have expected to see Agard from the bench at least
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 09, 2022, 08:17:31 pm
It's expected that Mibo will start every game he'll have conditions meaning that pretty much has to be the case in his loan. Would have expected to see Agard from the bench at least

This is concerning though because after his initial debut which looked promising, he's been ineffective. Perhaps another Cukur, albeit slightly better. Not seen a lot since to suggest he's going to change games for us tbh.

Agard looks sharp and has pace. Even chucking him on for half an hour at 1 nil down is better than not putting him on at all IMO.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 09, 2022, 08:45:18 pm
We've not made many chances for him though. He's 5 times the player Cukur is probably just needs a goal to get him going. 100% on Agard surely he's worth some time on the pitch
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 09, 2022, 08:47:04 pm
He doesn't make any runs though. He's like a much harder working Hiwula.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: 5minstogo on February 09, 2022, 08:59:14 pm
Mipo hasn't got a must play clause. None of the loans do.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Branton Red on February 09, 2022, 09:00:54 pm
Got to say I thought Agard was poor and offered very little in the games I saw him play. Think the manager was correct to drop him to the bench
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 09, 2022, 09:06:13 pm
Mipo hasn't got a must play clause. None of the loans do.

None have must play clauses (or at least the summer loanees didn't) but normally we have to pay a higher weekly loan fee when they don't start.

Not saying it's why he's starting but there is always a loanee preference even when performances don't warrant it. Mipo isn't in that bracket he hasn't been here long enough to be judge either way
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 09, 2022, 09:12:17 pm
Mipo hasn't got a must play clause. None of the loans do.

None have must play clauses (or at least the summer loanees didn't) but normally we have to pay a higher weekly loan fee when they don't start.

Not saying it's why he's starting but there is always a loanee preference even when performances don't warrant it. Mipo isn't in that bracket he hasn't been here long enough to be judge either way

Fair enough about not judging players too soon but the facts are that Agard, Odubeke, Griffiths have just 1 goal between them in all appearances. I didn't expect them to be world beaters but i expected a little bit more in this department.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 09, 2022, 10:25:53 pm
Why did GM sign Agard on an 18 month contract? Baffling. Dangerous player with movement. Barely used now. Anyone know of any reasons given by GM?

Because GM sees use of him over 18 months, not just 1 month?
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 09, 2022, 10:37:26 pm
Its a reasonable point. I'd like to see him utilized more though as sub for now.
Title: Re: Agard signs 18 month contract
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on February 10, 2022, 06:10:27 am
Get him in the side regularly and then he can be judged. He’s come in short of fitness and hardly had a game. I would give him a chance somewhere along the line. Odubeko might do better coming off the bench for a game or two.