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Title: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: karlos on January 12, 2022, 05:49:24 pm
Just wondering if agard was one of the two signings who had to secure there release or is there another two players coming in on permanent contracts. I ask this as shards contract was due to end so he wouldn’t have had to secure is release?
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: curley on January 12, 2022, 05:55:55 pm
Another player we are linked to is contracted to his club until the 22nd of Jan.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Upton Rover on January 12, 2022, 06:04:47 pm
Only GM and the board know
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: bpoolrover on January 12, 2022, 06:30:00 pm
Possibly not one of the 2 as I think they needed to sort there release from their contract out but agard is out of contract
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: coventryrover on January 12, 2022, 08:05:12 pm
He was on a short term contract
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: mushRTID on January 12, 2022, 08:27:02 pm
Just watched GM interview and I’m sure he said Agard only became available last week.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 12, 2022, 08:30:04 pm
Think he will have been one of our 1st choices. Seems like he's signed as soon as he left his last club. Not a panic signing like Dodoo. Reality check in what we can expect for some who were hoping for Marquis
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: since-1969 on January 12, 2022, 08:42:23 pm
Think he will have been one of our 1st choices. Seems like he's signed as soon as he left his last club. Not a panic signing like Dodoo. Reality check in what we can expect for some who were hoping for Marquis
Reality check ..  , when your club has signed the most pathetic caliber of player found any where  already , even Marquis would question the  decision to come back here !!
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: dickos1 on January 12, 2022, 09:19:40 pm
Think he will have been one of our 1st choices. Seems like he's signed as soon as he left his last club. Not a panic signing like Dodoo. Reality check in what we can expect for some who were hoping for Marquis
Reality check ..  , when your club has signed the most pathetic caliber of player found any where  already , even Marquis would question the  decision to come back here !!

Get a grip
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Jonathan on January 12, 2022, 10:27:56 pm
Listening to McSheffrey it’s very clear that this is one that suddenly became available and we pounced on that. Credit to the club for that. McSheffrey describes it as the first of some good ones so, encouragingly (and crucially) we can expect more arriving soon.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Michael Shaw on January 12, 2022, 10:35:15 pm
It may be true that the board haven't made the wisest of signings in the last 18 months but anything has to be an improvement. Let's give Agard a chance before judging him. Fans criticising a new player before they have even kicked a ball is pretty pathetic. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: coventryrover on January 13, 2022, 05:00:46 am
It may be true that the board haven't made the wisest of signings in the last 18 months but anything has to be an improvement. Let's give Agard a chance before judging him. Fans criticising a new player before they have even kicked a ball is pretty pathetic. Good luck to him.
  It may be that the managers haven't made the wisest of signings
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: roversdude on January 13, 2022, 07:50:42 am
I hope he’s prepared for the ‘pathetic calibre’ of so called supporter that we have.
Personally think this is a great signing well done everyone involved
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 13, 2022, 08:29:51 am
I'm sure they will have been aware of Agard, but it could be the situation where GMs first choice may be dithering, so they've moved quickly to sort this one out.

Obviously there's still work to do but it eases the pressure somewhat in getting the main priority through the door. Hopefully, the second priority follows very shortly.

Maybe a couple of quality loans to follow then in the final wash up of the window, there could be opportunities to shuffle the pack even more.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 13, 2022, 09:09:48 am
We needed an experienced striker who has a track record of scoring goals at this level.
That is exactly what we have got. What is there to complain about?

Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: GazLaz on January 13, 2022, 09:26:34 am
We need to be cautious with signings this month. It would be easy to give out deals to players, get relegated, then better players become available in the summer. We could really damage next seasons promotion hopes in the next two weeks or so.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Jonathan on January 13, 2022, 09:27:08 am
We needed an experienced striker who has a track record of scoring goals at this level.
That is exactly what we have got. What is there to complain about?



Other than the odd isolated comment I haven’t really seen any complaining. Most seem to recognise this is a decent start to what we need. Though I don’t doubt the Netto brigade are at it somewhere. I’ve tended to mute the main protagonists on social media otherwise they seemed to be appearing on my timeline despite not following them.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: CJK on January 13, 2022, 09:27:57 am
I might have missed this, but with Wellens going and GMc bringing Bogle back into the fold, do we take it that there isn't such an emphasis to move Bogle on now?

And slightly OT, what about Ed Williams, what an earth has happened to him?
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Metalmicky on January 13, 2022, 09:31:56 am

And slightly OT, what about Ed Williams, what an earth has happened to him?

If we drop a league is there a chance that Williams may move up the playing order....
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 13, 2022, 09:50:57 am
I might have missed this, but with Wellens going and GMc bringing Bogle back into the fold, do we take it that there isn't such an emphasis to move Bogle on now?

And slightly OT, what about Ed Williams, what an earth has happened to him?

We don't know of GMs assessment of Bogle, whether he sees him as the future. I kinda hope we can do better and maybe he could be a last minute departure and be replaced by someone with better potential.

Williams is the new invisible man.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 13, 2022, 11:15:35 am
We need to be cautious with signings this month. It would be easy to give out deals to players, get relegated, then better players become available in the summer. We could really damage next seasons promotion hopes in the next two weeks or so.

Indeed. There's a real gamble whatever you do. Look at Bogle this time last year, it didn't work out that one really.  Go short and it's "cheap option" but go a longer deal and it fails and they get questioned ok why they signed them...
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Metalmicky on January 13, 2022, 11:31:09 am
Perhaps contracts where there is an option to extend deals if things work out should be the way ahead... keeps the player hungry and allows the club to hold on to players who are performing...
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Danmckay456 on January 13, 2022, 11:42:51 am
Let’s face it a lot of our players are playing for their future at drfc whether it be in league on or two
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: jamesrover17 on January 13, 2022, 11:53:42 am
We should have a strong team going into league 2 next season, I cant see a queue of clubs to cherry pick any of our players
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Danmckay456 on January 13, 2022, 12:03:10 pm
I meant in terms of out of contract players
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: RoversAlias on January 13, 2022, 12:21:33 pm
Perhaps contracts where there is an option to extend deals if things work out should be the way ahead... keeps the player hungry and allows the club to hold on to players who are performing...

This notion of "keeping players hungry" with short term deals, that gets mooted a lot on here, doesn't really work. Simply because if you offer a player a 6-month deal with an option, odds are he/his agent can find a longer deal with another club and the player will almost always opt for that bit of stability.

Permanent signings coming in this month should be on 18 month deals with an eye to them being good signings for us next season as much as improving us now. Agard fits this bill and I hope other acquisitions are of a similar ilk.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: roversdude on January 13, 2022, 12:55:34 pm
The fat lady may be getting warmed up but she certainly ain’t singing yet
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Metalmicky on January 13, 2022, 01:14:11 pm
Perhaps contracts where there is an option to extend deals if things work out should be the way ahead... keeps the player hungry and allows the club to hold on to players who are performing...

This notion of "keeping players hungry" with short term deals, that gets mooted a lot on here, doesn't really work. Simply because if you offer a player a 6-month deal with an option, odds are he/his agent can find a longer deal with another club and the player will almost always opt for that bit of stability.

Permanent signings coming in this month should be on 18 month deals with an eye to them being good signings for us next season as much as improving us now. Agard fits this bill and I hope other acquisitions are of a similar ilk.

I'm not sure why you quoted me - I never mentioned 6 month deals......... YOU did.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: RoversAlias on January 13, 2022, 01:54:13 pm
I quoted you because I was responding to your post...and making a point about short-term deals. It's really not a big issue, just adding to the discussion.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on January 13, 2022, 02:02:41 pm
Players are just like us, they want as much security in a contract at work as they can get. I would like to see incentives in every contract but I’m sure they are already in the contract’s.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Metalmicky on January 13, 2022, 02:08:57 pm
I quoted you because I was responding to your post...and making a point about short-term deals. It's really not a big issue, just adding to the discussion.

Oh OK - the fact you also "quoted" part of my post, suggested to me that you were referring directly to my post........ and making a point  :ermm:
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: RoversAlias on January 13, 2022, 02:55:17 pm
...I just said I was responding to your post.

This place is getting so difficult to bother with, honestly.
Title: Re: Was agard first choice or are we getting somebody else?
Post by: Metalmicky on January 13, 2022, 03:00:11 pm
...I just said I was responding to your post.

This place is getting so difficult to bother with, honestly.

I know exactly what you mean...