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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Filo on January 15, 2022, 09:08:01 am
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He’s got some f**king front has n’t he?
“ Boris Johnson has reportedly penned a list of officials to resign from their posts over "partygate" in a bid to save his job following the controversy.
The move has been named "Operation Save Big Dog" by Mr Johnson himself, according to The Independent.
It is understood this codename has caught on, with the plan also highlighting the PM's achievements while in office.
The newspaper reports that among those at risk of losing their jobs are Mr Johnson's chief of staff Dan Rosenfield and Martin Reynolds, who wrote an email encouraging Number 10 staff to meet for drinks.”
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'highlight his achievements' - I don't think they have quite thought that one through!
Also if you are drawing up a secret plan to manipulate public opinion - probably best not to leak it to the public.
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Time for ‘Big Dog’ to be put to sleep, I think.
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Time for ‘Big Dog’ to be put to sleep, I think.
Beat me to it.
As much i'm against euthanasia of canines. This particular dog has a particularly persistent and nasty bout of distemper and should be put out of his misery with immediate effect.
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Operation Save Dog Turd might have been a better name
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The comedy just keeps on coming.....
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It’s like being at the Edinburgh Fringe.
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Top-notch dog humour, it's had me howling.
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Bozo certainly is having a woof time of it.
A prime minister with pedigree is what we need now.
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Operation Save Dog Turd might have been a better name
Yep, it's insulting to dogs.
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Bozo certainly is having a woof time of it.
A prime minister with pedigree is what we need now.
Paws for thought here. Boris is a university graduate so he has a pedigree.
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Bozo certainly is having a woof time of it.
A prime minister with pedigree is what we need now.
Paws for thought here. Boris is a university graduate so he has a pedigree.
You've nailed it bb, the royal houses of Europe were pedigrees and looked what happened to them.
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https://twitter.com/JNPhillips4/status/1481919562832564225?s=20
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Boris is such a repugnant individual. He really is.
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Re’pug’nant, morelike.
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Looks like he's proposing to kill off the BBC off as a distraction now.
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He's a devious bugger that Starmer.
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Looks like he's proposing to kill off the BBC off as a distraction now.
If they thought they could get away with it they'd sell the whole thing off tomorrow.
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Looks like he's proposing to kill off the BBC off as a distraction now.
Bloody hell. He'd get my vote if they did. This is despite him illegally locking us away in our homes all in the name of Covid theatre.
The BBC (and Sky) are responsible for the deaths of many people throughout this pandemic with their relentless disproportionate and inaccurate fearmongering and they need accounting for.
IMO.
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The BBC to stand on its own two feet ? .
And about time too .
You can go 12 months and not tune in to the BBC in any capacity but go to prison if you don't fund them .
Sounds like a plan doesn't it .
You'll here no complaints from me even though I fully know it's a Johnson get out of the shyte card .
Pay Gary Linekar and Alan Shearer out of your own pockets not mine for talking b@llax .
At least if I want to hear Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher talk shyte it's my choice .
Welcome to the real world BBC , it's taken long enough .
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The BBC couldn't stand on its own two feet.
If it were to survive it would need to radically change, essentially becoming like ITV. I know many wouldn't have a problem with that.
In my opinion such a move would be disasterous for the UK entertainment and media industries.
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Indeed.
I'm not sure how many more woke episodes of Doctor Who my 12 year old can take.
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The BBC couldn't stand on its own two feet.
If it were to survive it would need to radically change, essentially becoming like ITV. I know many wouldn't have a problem with that.
In my opinion such a move would be disasterous for the UK entertainment and media industries.
Television has changed massively in the last 30 years RD with people prepared to pay to watch what they like .
The BBC have been shielded from this and it was unlawful not to pay em .
Times have changed , the industry has changed .
You'll use my hard earned no longer to pay ridiculous wages for very little entertainment .
The One Show indeed .
Stand on your own feet , bye bye if you can't .
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I don't think TV has changed that much.
It doesn't matter how many channels there are and how you access it.
Content is still king.
You don't like the One Show or Dr Who? Fine.
You might be surprised what you do miss, when all there is, is the likes of Family Fortunes and Ant n Dec on telly.
And the thing is the BBC maintains higher standards across British TV and beyond. Even the head of Netflix sees that.
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I don't really watch much TV these days. The kid and other half are always watching netflix, youtube or disney plus.
I think the only thing i watch on BBC is Have I Got News For You and that's it really.
I don't listen to BBC radio either as it's atrocious.
Maybe Radio Sheffield when i'm driving home after a match but that's it.
The BBC is a dead duck.
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In Australia all right wingers and the commercial media want the national broadcaster sold off. The ABC has quite a large footprint and has been a mainstay during the pandemic. Ch7 tried to run the overseas bit but couldn't do and make money.
The bbc is always trusted during national crises and if sold off the commercial entities would soon, like the railways shut off the unprofitable bits. The bbc runs the world service which spreads influence across the globe to many millions.
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Perhaps they could show that day at Orgreave and what really happened instead of showing it in reverse .
As the Italians say , revenge is a dish best served cold .
Never forgive and never forget RD .
On you go in to the real world BBC just as I and thousands of others had to .
What goes around comes around .
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I don't really watch much TV these days. The kid and other half are always watching netflix, youtube or disney plus.
I think the only thing i watch on BBC is Have I Got News For You and that's it really.
I don't listen to BBC radio either as it's atrocious.
Maybe Radio Sheffield when i'm driving home after a match but that's it.
The BBC is a dead duck.
You seem to be of the opinion that all TV is a dead duck and your family only watch American stuff...
Without the BBC, the British media, all media would rapidly gain a far more American voice.
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I don't really watch much TV these days. The kid and other half are always watching netflix, youtube or disney plus.
I think the only thing i watch on BBC is Have I Got News For You and that's it really.
I don't listen to BBC radio either as it's atrocious.
Maybe Radio Sheffield when i'm driving home after a match but that's it.
The BBC is a dead duck.
You seem to be of the opinion that all TV is a dead duck and your family only watch American stuff...
Without the BBC, the British media, all media would rapidly gain a far more American voice.
It's a fair point RD.
I don't watch netflix etc. Haven't got the interest really.
I mainly watch footy on subscription, paranormal programmes on the likes of REALLY / BLAZE and youtube stuff. I have very narrow interests :lol:
Been watching GB News increasingly in the evenings when no footy is on.
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would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?
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would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?
The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .
The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .
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would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?
The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .
The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .
yes they could tyke, but they would only continue it if making a profit, that's the important bit.
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would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?
The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .
The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .
Would the format remain though?
There is always commercial pressure to focus more on shorter, more easily digestible forms of the game.
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The BBC has been poor for choice for many years. It largely caters to the 50+ audience. The only thing I find worthwhile watching is Peaky Blinders, but it's not worth £13 a month.
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would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?
The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .
The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .
yes they could tyke, but they would only continue it if making a profit, that's the important bit.
Talksport have frequently had it and done it on radio and online.
Overall there's a better model to fund the BBC.
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would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?
The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .
The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .
yes they could tyke, but they would only continue it if making a profit, that's the important bit.
Talksport have frequently had it and done it on radio and online.
Overall there's a better model to fund the BBC.
Is it pud, will they be able to fund all the other services the bbc provide?
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What is the better model to fund the BBC?
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would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?
The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .
The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .
Would the format remain though?
There is always commercial pressure to focus more on shorter, more easily digestible forms of the game.
It worked well enough for me on Channel four and Sky .
In fact both have considerably improved the product .
TMS is a bit of a national institution I get that .
However it's the presenters not the platform which makes it special .
Tuffers and Agnew would just be the same on any platform in my opinion .
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would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?
Well it seems to have died this winter SR - what an embarrassing performance
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The BBC remind me of the Nottinghamshire miners.
Cosied up to a Tory Govt to protect themselves.
Then discarded and left to rot when they are no longer of use.
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It wasn’t just Notts miners BST, they promised to look after people who returned to work in Yorkshire too, soon cut them adrift. We had a returner at Yorkshire Main who got moved to Hatfield straight after the strike. He was ok until they shut YM and transferred lads to Hatfield and they pointed out that he was a scab
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What is the better model to fund the BBC?
Probably some sort of split I'd say. So partially fund it out of general taxation for the educational and news services then a commercial arm that becomes more self funding for the drama, sport etc eg advertisements, semi subscription based for some things etc.
You could also apply a small levy on the subscription services to generate funds for the educational and news elements also.
The point is the media market has changed yet the BBC hasn't adapted alongside that. In some ways it's actually detrimental having the public funding as they cannot compete in the market on certain salaries or for purchasing externally made dramas etc.
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The BBC remind me of the Nottinghamshire miners.
Cosied up to a Tory Govt to protect themselves.
Then discarded and left to rot when they are no longer of use.
I don't see, hear or read enough to accurately state an opinion on bias but it's often stated about the ABC that if both sides are complaining they have it about right. It's unforgiveable for them to be inaccurate in news or docs.
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They probably are fairly bias free overall. There is the odd story here and there where they slip to one side but overall they're quite good.
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The BBC remind me of the Nottinghamshire miners.
Cosied up to a Tory Govt to protect themselves.
Then discarded and left to rot when they are no longer of use.
I don't see, hear or read enough to accurately state an opinion on bias but it's often stated about the ABC that if both sides are complaining they have it about right. It's unforgiveable for them to be inaccurate in news or docs.
There's been a conveyor belt for 10 years taking people from the Tory party media machine into top BBC management and back again.
Allegra Stratton is the most high profile recent example, but there are loads of others.
Robbie Gibb was May's communications Director. He's now on the BBC Board.
The BBC Chair is a major Tory party donor.
The BBC Director General is an ex-Tory constituency Chair.
Craig Oliver ran the BBC's coverage of the 2010 General Election and within 8 months was Cameron's spin doctor.
Guto Harri was the BBC's chief political correspondent, then left and took up a post as Johnson's soon doctor when he was London Mayor.
There's been nothing remotely like this on the Left.
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Must admit now you say that bst there has been a push to appoint 'favourites' and circumnavigate the supposedly independent selection process to the ABC board, although that did backfire spectacularly when the PMs hand picked chair got severely stuck into him last year.
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They probably are fairly bias free overall. There is the odd story here and there where they slip to one side but overall they're quite good.
Agreed DO.
No news channel can get it 100% right all of the time.
I have to laugh sometimes though that certain posters slag off the bbc on a regular basis but occasionally highlight an article from them when it suits the rhetoric.
A bit like believing that lying scumbag Dominic Cummings now that he has changed sides.
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is it why? are the two related?
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''The BBC is facing its biggest funding threat yet — and there are parallels to the ABC''
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-18/bbc-cuts-biggest-threat-yet/100762190
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Sleep well all, more gun and fames in the morning no doubt, here's a reminder of johnson being interviewed about his appointment of Nadine Dorries to the post of culture secretary Sept 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkk9DI-8el4
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This from the man who used to run polling for No10.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1482739732723515396
It's stunning that so many of these people have only just realised they put a lifelong pathological liar into power. But they've realised now. What a f**king mess.
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Maybe it's about time journalists from all camps should stop accepting 'A #10 spokesperson said or worse #10 said' as though #10 is an entity. Those in #10 should not be allowed to hide behind anonymity, get a bloody name!
''Asked about Cummings’s latest claims, a No 10 spokesperson pointed to an earlier statement, saying: “It is untrue that the prime minister was warned about the [20 May] event in advance. As he said … he believed implicitly that this was a work event. He has apologised to the house and is committed to making a further statement once the investigation concludes.”''
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/17/boris-johnson-lied-about-lockdown-party-dominic-cummings-claims
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This from the man who used to run polling for No10.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1482739732723515396
It's stunning that so many of these people have only just realised they put a lifelong pathological liar into power. But they've realised now. What a f**king mess.
Is that the sound of a penny dropping?
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This from the man who used to run polling for No10.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1482739732723515396
It's stunning that so many of these people have only just realised they put a lifelong pathological liar into power. But they've realised now. What a f**king mess.
Is that the sound of a penny dropping?
It could well be Filo ................... introducing ta-da ‘'Operation Rinka’'
'‘Operation Rinka’: rebel Tories up pressure on Boris Johnson to resign
Nicknamed after dog shot in Thorpe affair, plan afoot to oust PM over Downing Street parties scandal''
While Downing Street insiders have reportedly devised a plan to sack officials and save Johnson, referred to as “Operation Save Big Dog”, some Tory MPs are stepping up pressure on colleagues to submit letters of no confidence in the prime minister.
One backbencher nicknamed the campaign to oust Johnson Operation Rinka after the great dane shot dead on Exmoor in 1975 – an incident that eventually led to the Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe standing trial for conspiracy to murder''
Those that have their X in the bottom right of the voting compass may be getting a little nervous.
PS: and another link to history ..........
''in what was known as the "Night of the Long Knives". Thorpe's comment—"Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his friends for his life"—was widely regarded in the press as the most apt verdict on the prime minister''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorpe_affair
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It's ironic that the man who is a lifelong pathological liar will, if the system works as it should, see his political career end because he lied in Parliament when Starmer put him on the spot.
One of the oldest truisms in politics is "it's not the original error that finishes careers: it's the botched cover-up."
Johnson could have possibly rode out this scandal if he'd just come out at the start with the line he took last week. That his judgement was that they were having drinks with work, but he now realises that was a huge error.
His problem is that he lied to Parliament when asked if these events had happened. Because that's what he does when put on the spot. He lies instinctively. As easily as he breathes.
Even Raab said today on the radio that lying to Parliament is a resigning issue.
I accept that the Tories will be electorally stronger with him gone. But I still want him gone, hung out to dry and humiliated. Because it is vital that we demonstrate that a lifetime of lying leads you off the edge of the cliff.
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Blair hasn't done bad out of lying BST, and his lies cost live's.
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Blair hasn't done bad out of lying BST, and his lies cost live's.
But, but……. What about…….
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Even if Boris goes, he'll probably get another job somewhere else on loads of money and bring out some memoirs or a book or something that thick tw*ts will buy. So it's a win / win for him. The thing about these narcissists is that they could spend the rest of their lives living with a tarnished political reputation, but just like their terms in office - they don't actually give a toss.
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Filo to the rescue and a job to suit his image, a brush to sweep it under the bed.
Us lefties don't talk about things like that do we Filo?
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Selby taking over from bb trying desperately to take the conversation away from his lying hero.
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Filo to the rescue and a job to suit his image, a brush to sweep it under the bed.
Us lefties don't talk about things like that do we Filo?
I acknowledge Blair’s war crimes and he should be prosecuted, what about the here and now Selby?
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The here and now Filo, get rid of the joke and get someone in with the back bone to sort the bloody lot out.
And in Doncaster we need a very good defensive mid fielder.
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The here and now Filo, get rid of the joke and get someone in with the back bone to sort the bloody lot out.
Sounds like we're all in agreement. Good stuff.
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If the BBC is as good as you all say it will have no difficulty getting subscribers
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The here and now Filo, get rid of the joke and get someone in with the back bone to sort the bloody lot out.
And in Doncaster we need a very good defensive mid fielder.
:that:
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1) Sunak is preparing to hole Johnson below the water link. (You might expect certain folk in here to start calling him "Sinker Sunak". I won't hold my breath.
2) Our Tory fanboys in here seem to think he'll be a star. Looks more like the second coming of Theresa May here.
https://mobile.twitter.com/joepike/status/1483409013136150533
Woodenly repeating what he's been told to say, then being rescued by a matronly aide when the questioning got too tough.
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1) Sunak is preparing to hole Johnson below the water link. (You might expect certain folk in here to start calling him "Sinker Sunak". I won't hold my breath.
YOU JUST DID.
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It was really an admission when he said 'I should have found some other way to reward them'
You don't reward an employee with a work meeting. It also suggested he knew about it beforehand and it was probably his idea.
Anyway, it's looking like it will all be done once Gray reports now. I wonder who is up next? It's something of a poisoned chalice.
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Boris has to go now.
He has pushed it too far.
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Every member of Cabinet that has publicly backed the PM, should also resign with him when the time comes, they know he’s lying and they are backing him to the hilt, that makes them complicit in the web of lies
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Every member of Cabinet that has publicly backed the PM, should also resign with him when the time comes, they know he’s lying and they are backing him to the hilt, that makes them complicit in the web of lies
I'm not sure how Sunak for one can claim to be ignorant of what was going on when he's living and working in the same building.
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They will be lining up behind "their" Candidate for Pinocchio's replacement already
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have the perfect get out of jail card .... well as I said at the time we needed to wait for Sue Grays report and now I have .... blah blah blah
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1) Sunak is preparing to hole Johnson below the water link. (You might expect certain folk in here to start calling him "Sinker Sunak". I won't hold my breath.
I'm going for Hi risk anus not sinker Sunak
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Sounds like the threshold has been met to trigger a leadership contest. There's talk of a statement from Graham Brady tomorrow morning.
To go from an 80-seat election win to this in 2 years is remarkable and means Johnson will go down as a historic failure as PM.
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Hopefully we can get this piece of filth out once and for all and forget about the waste of skin.
Hoping for some news this week sometime.
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The Conservative paleo club is out there now looking for a backbone apparently.
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It's really difficult to see how any of the #10 leadership group that either supported or stood by and watched all this shit unfold, how their positions would be tenable. It they want to move on with a new broom and all that, surely they don't want the distraction of from those in senior positions being asked ............
'You knew all this was illegal, disrespectful and a danger, why didn't you speak up?'
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''Nobody told me ................ there'd be days like these''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuuhsqA95iA
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I think we said on here a few years back he'd probably last 3-4 years. He's managed less than that so far, but he may well still survive. A confidence vote didnt kill may.
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I think we said on here a few years back he'd probably last 3-4 years. He's managed less than that so far, but he may well still survive. A confidence vote didnt kill may.
I reckon about 10 working days (not parties) will be enough to see him gone, I'm not sure what would get him the boot if this latest farrago of unconscionable behaviour isn't. It's not like he's capable of change is it.
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I think we said on here a few years back he'd probably last 3-4 years. He's managed less than that so far, but he may well still survive. A confidence vote didnt kill may.
If they trigger a confidence vote and he wins it comfortably, the Tory poll figures will drop through the floor. And there's a lot of MPs who know that would be curtains for them.
Then you have to factor in the fact that Johnson simply isn't liked by many Tory MPs. He was a means to an end. That usefulness is now history.
If they trigger a confidence vote, he'll be gone within days. And good f**king riddance.
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Pmq s is brutal today. One of his own backbenchers has urged him to go, in front of a packed house, utilising an old verse to do so.
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Interesting PMQs! One Tory crosses the floor and David Davis sticks the boot in and publicly tells Boris to go.
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Starmer only got one good question in about when staff expressed concerns about the party.
Johnson didn't answer of course.
It looks like.this whole.thing is on hold until Gray reports back.