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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on February 05, 2022, 12:06:31 pm

Title: False messaging
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 05, 2022, 12:06:31 pm
Apparently the Govt is going to make it illegal to knowingly send false messages online.

In principle I do support this. But the lack of self awareness...from a Johnson government...
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 05, 2022, 12:07:12 pm
Apparently the Govt is going to make it illegal to knowingly send false messages online.

In principle I do support this. But the lack of self awareness...from a Johnson government...

What do they mean by 'false messages' Billy?
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 05, 2022, 12:08:00 pm
Dunno. That's all I've seen.
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: Filo on February 05, 2022, 12:13:47 pm
Apparently the Govt is going to make it illegal to knowingly send false messages online.

In principle I do support this. But the lack of self awareness...from a Johnson government...

What do they mean by 'false messages' Billy?

I should think it would be like Nadine Dorries saying the PM tells the truth, or 97% of tory MP’s back the PM
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: belton rover on February 05, 2022, 12:31:09 pm
What’s the difference between a false message and a lie?
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: wilts rover on February 05, 2022, 01:52:59 pm
Apparently the Govt is going to make it illegal to knowingly send false messages online.

In principle I do support this. But the lack of self awareness...from a Johnson government...

In the same week that Johnson has been rebuked by the UK Statistical Authority for incorrectly saying crime has fallen:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-priti-patel-crime-b2007401.html

and the Office for Statistics Regulation for repeating his incorrect claim there are more people in work:

https://www.bigissue.com/news/employment/boris-johnson-repeated-false-employment-figures-again-after-being-told-not-to/
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 05, 2022, 01:55:40 pm
And once again, this is FAR more important than party politics. It's about honesty and decency in politics. It's about truth and trust.

This bas**rd is poisoning the well for everyone.
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: drfchound on February 05, 2022, 04:35:13 pm
What happens if someone posts something online that they believe to be true then turns out to be false later.
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: idler on February 05, 2022, 04:40:20 pm
I have always thought that if a statement or story is published and found to be a lie then the same column inches on the same pages should be used for the apology or retraction. Too often the apology is a few lines on an obscure page. Irrespective of how much coverage the original article got.
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: drfchound on February 05, 2022, 04:56:30 pm
I was thinking more about stuff posted on forums like this one for example.
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: idler on February 05, 2022, 05:03:21 pm
Same should apply hound.
Nothing wrong with apologising if you are wrong.
It's better than deflecting  a thread or disappearing..
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: Branton Red on February 05, 2022, 05:24:43 pm
This new law, and any discussion around it, is a complete irrelevance given the world is going to end at 9.49pm this evening.
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: idler on February 05, 2022, 05:25:49 pm
How can it we just won away.
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: glosterred on February 05, 2022, 06:04:05 pm
This new law, and any discussion around it, is a complete irrelevance given the world is going to end at 9.49pm this evening.

Better start the film I’m planning to watch this evening early then, wouldn’t want to miss the ending.


Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: normal rules on February 05, 2022, 06:11:11 pm
Apparently the Govt is going to make it illegal to knowingly send false messages online.

In principle I do support this. But the lack of self awareness...from a Johnson government...

What do they mean by 'false messages' Billy?

It’s designed around serious stuff like bomb hoaxes etc
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on February 05, 2022, 06:25:32 pm
Apparently the Govt is going to make it illegal to knowingly send false messages online.

In principle I do support this. But the lack of self awareness...from a Johnson government...

What do they mean by 'false messages' Billy?

It’s designed around serious stuff like bomb hoaxes etc

Starmer's already "got in on the Act " (think about that one !!)

Chief prosecutor ‘forced staff’ to pursue Twitter case
Lawyers at the crown prosecution service had wanted to drop a case against a man who had made a joke about ‘blowing up an airport’
KEIR STARMER, the director of public prosecutions (DPP), stopped his staff from dropping a case against an accountant who joked on Twitter that he wanted to blow up an airport, it was claimed today.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chief-prosecutor-forced-staff-to-pursue-twitter-case-f3t0kj3vtbb

this fact used to be on wikipedia but has conveniently now been "cancelled"

Paul Chambers, 28, wrote the message in a moment of frustration when Robin Hood airport, in south Yorkshire, was closed because of heavy snow.

Chambers was later found guilty of sending a menacing tweet but had the conviction quashed in the High Court in London on Friday.

The Observer reported today that crown prosecution service (CPS) lawyers told Chambers they saw no public interest in opposing his appeal, but Starmer allegedly overruled them at the last minute.

Chambers told the newspaper he was “bitterly upset” at Starmer's decision to prosecute.

He

Continue reading..........................
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: idler on February 05, 2022, 07:17:23 pm
My daughter worked at two airports and staff were always told they had to ask if there was anything dangerous or suspicious in their luggage. They were also told to tell them that only joking still meant a full luggage check of all the party if they answered incorrectly.
They still had one or two groups of lads on a stag do or weekend away causing delays by being stupid. Imagine if somebody was let on a plane after admitting they had something in the luggage and not being stopped?
Title: Re: False messaging
Post by: rich1471 on February 05, 2022, 07:33:17 pm
Apparently the Govt is going to make it illegal to knowingly send false messages online.

In principle I do support this. But the lack of self awareness...from a Johnson government...

What do they mean by 'false messages' Billy?

It’s designed around serious stuff like bomb hoaxes etc

Starmer's already "got in on the Act " (think about that one !!)

Chief prosecutor ‘forced staff’ to pursue Twitter case
Lawyers at the crown prosecution service had wanted to drop a case against a man who had made a joke about ‘blowing up an airport’
KEIR STARMER, the director of public prosecutions (DPP), stopped his staff from dropping a case against an accountant who joked on Twitter that he wanted to blow up an airport, it was claimed today.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chief-prosecutor-forced-staff-to-pursue-twitter-case-f3t0kj3vtbb

this fact used to be on wikipedia but has conveniently now been "cancelled"

Paul Chambers, 28, wrote the message in a moment of frustration when Robin Hood airport, in south Yorkshire, was closed because of heavy snow.

Chambers was later found guilty of sending a menacing tweet but had the conviction quashed in the High Court in London on Friday.

The Observer reported today that crown prosecution service (CPS) lawyers told Chambers they saw no public interest in opposing his appeal, but Starmer allegedly overruled them at the last minute.

Chambers told the newspaper he was “bitterly upset” at Starmer's decision to prosecute.

He

Continue reading..........................
I was listening to this been debated last week and they said if he has put smiley faces at the end they would have known it was a joke and prosecuted him