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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: BigKeif on February 07, 2022, 06:48:34 pm
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So, I’ve been looking at the ppg table so far up to date and worked out a potential look at the table of all the teams around us are to continue with the exact ppg total.
This isn’t obviously a given that it’ll happen as we all know with teams fighting at the bottom, there’s potential for a run of good form and also disastrous too.
I’ve rounded up/down depended on .5 above or below but these are the potential end of season points totals of the teams around us that we could potentially catch realistically.
Cheltenham - 1.14 ppg currently - 52 points
Shrewsbury - 1.10 ppg currently - 51 points
Lincoln - 1.11 ppg currently - 51 points
Fleetwood - 1.07 ppg currently - 49 points
Wimbledon - 1.03 ppg currently - 48 points
Morecambe - 0.97 ppg currently - 45 points
Crewe - 0.76 ppg currently - 35 points
Gillingham - 0.73 ppg currently - 34 points
Doncaster - 0.73 ppg currently - 34 points
If we are to catch Wimbledon then we’d need at the very least, 1.69 ppg for the last 16 games. Obviously it’s a big ask but not impossible.
I’m still resigned to us being relegated but thought I’d look up and share this information for the hope that we can turn things around after Saturdays brilliant performance and something for us all to maybe keep an eye on what amount of points would be realistic at keeping us up.
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Good post and a interesting read,
As someone else mentioned in another post, I think gillingham and Crewe are down, both didn’t really recruit in Jan although Gillingham appointed Harris.
Us recruiting has given us hope, the last 10 games will be massive and we will need almost perfect form from them, and possibly scrap another 4 points from the next 2 games would be amazing!
I still think it’s a little to late but we have them immediate above us that are must wins to give us a fighting chance.
As long as we still have a mathematic chance, I’ll still believe we can pull off a miracle
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Wimbledons current form is disasterous. Their PPG tally will be dropping.
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They’ve won twice in the league since the middle of October and that was against Crewe and Accrington. Saying that, they’ve drawn quite a few recently and not lost that many. Their three league defeats in 2022 have been Charlton, Ipswich and MK Dons.
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Agreed AoTN, I certainly think our recruitment has given us a better chance than Gillingham and Crewe. We just have to keep performing like we did on Saturday in every game and that gives us every chance of doing the impossible.
We can only hope Wimbledon’s form continues and ppg keeps dropping RD and CBCB. Again, this gives us every possible chance of staying up. These next 2 fixtures are massive if we’re to gain momentum and pick up points.
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Said for ages that we have more chance of staying up than Gillingham and Crewe. Think it will be between us, Morecambe, Wimbledon and Fleetwood for the last 2 relegation spots. Also think that 47/48 points is what we should be looking at and think that will be enough this season.
Need to build a bit of momentum now after the great win on Saturday. Fancy is to get 4 points from tonight and Saturday and would be more than happy with 5 points from the next 4, that gives us a bit of momentum going into the favourable run in starting with Accrington at home on the 22nd.
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Some interesting points BK but even with new faces coming in, to crank a 0.73 PPG record into a 1.69 PPG for the remaining would take a staggering & monumental turn around in form. I wonder if anyone has ever done it? The Burton example is always cited but I think our case is even a taller order. We need BST to step in here and do one of his form bulletins – he's rarely wide of the mark however unpalatable the message is.
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In season 09/10 in lge one, Norwich had the grand sum of 7 points after 5 games and went on to win that league.
And in 04/05 Southend had just 2 pts after 5 games in lge two.they went on to finish 4th and promoted via playoffs.
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In season 09/10 in lge one, Norwich had the grand sum of 7 points after 5 games and went on to win that league.
And in 04/05 Southend had just 2 pts after 5 games in lge two.they went on to finish 4th and promoted via playoffs.
Didn’t Barnsley do something similar under Johnson too a few years back?
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There’s a lot out there on Prem teams that were bottom at Xmas and how well they got on.
2010.West Ham. Relegated
2011. Blackburn relegated. Remember the chicken in the pitch ?
2012 reading.relegated
2013 Sunderland.escaped with Connor wickham being their goal scoring saviour.
2014 Leicester . Won it the season before of course. Won 7 of their last nine games to escape the drop.
2015villa. They had just 7 points at Xmas and went on to lose 12 of their last 13 games to finish with just 17 points.
2016 Hull.relegated.
2017 Swansea relegated
2018 Fulham . Relegated
2019 Watford. Relegated
2020 sheff Utd. Who had just 2 pts at Xmas. TWO!! Relegated. They did finish on 23 pts though.
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As splendid as these examples are has anyone in League 1 in the first week of Feb with our points tally and our form managed to rise from the deathbed and escape.
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In season 09/10 in lge one, Norwich had the grand sum of 7 points after 5 games and went on to win that league.
And in 04/05 Southend had just 2 pts after 5 games in lge two.they went on to finish 4th and promoted via playoffs.
Didn’t Barnsley do something similar under Johnson too a few years back?
Blackpool last season,only had 4pts after 7 games and went on to get promoted through play-offs,losing only 3 of their last 24 league games.
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As splendid as these examples are has anyone in League 1 in the first week of Feb with our points tally and our form managed to rise from the deathbed and escape.
After 30 games last season:
23rd) Burton, 26 pts - survived by 10 points (7 wins, 5 draws from last 16 games) @ 1.63ppg
24th) Wigan, 25 pts - survived by 1 point (6 wins, 3 draws from last 16 games) @1.32ppg
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Last ten 'full / 46 game' seasons (so, omitting the Covid season), the 21st place team has averaged 48 points.
Rovers need to better that to survive, you would think.
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Some interesting points BK but even with new faces coming in, to crank a 0.73 PPG record into a 1.69 PPG for the remaining would take a staggering & monumental turn around in form. I wonder if anyone has ever done it? The Burton example is always cited but I think our case is even a taller order. We need BST to step in here and do one of his form bulletins – he's rarely wide of the mark however unpalatable the message is.
Totally agree with that thinking. It’s a massive mountain to climb and like I said in an earlier post, I’m still resigned to relegation, it was just a thought that crossed my mind that I wanted to share.
I’m keeping everything crossed we can do it but tonight is massive, we seriously need to get some momentum going and tonight has to be no less than a win to follow on from Saturday. Obviously, victory is not a given tonight as Ipswich are a really good team, just we need to get that win.
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We need to just play every game not the league table, and while it is possible to survive just go for it.